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I still don't think it's that bad. :V

I was suggesting Executive Bling earlier, but that's really close. XD

Edit: Over an MSN conversation I came up with "Splendiferous" and Gerk liked it. :P
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Okay, Gerk and I have agreed. If we want to get anywhere with discussing and planning, we need structure.

I propose we need to figure out what arcs and potential filler there will be in chronological order, and then we figure out which characters are going to be in what. Then we work up from there, discussing and developing characters and storyline as we go.

Here's the beginning parts. This part is pretty much completed in planning, apparently, but it's a good place to start as any.

The Wriggler (Stand-Alone)
Characters:
Lawyerman
Comet
The Wriggler
Butzman
Commissioner Gumshoe
Miss Fortune
The Mayor

The Dahlia Incident (Stand-Alone)
Characters:
Lawyerman
Comet
THE PAYNE
Miss Murder

The SPLENDIFEROUS Arc
Characters:
Lawyerman
Comet
Stargazer
SPLENDIFEROUS
Pink
Reflecto
The Commander
Shelly de Killer
Cravatman
Citro

Something like this. We'll need to discuss if we want to change any of this. In particular, the Splendiferous arc. Think someone else would fit in there? What would be their part in the story?

Also, I think Mezzo tried to do something like this before, but I can't find it. ;.;

Edit: Gerk's going to post a summary of what he has for the story so far later, I believe.
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It seems like good organization to me. I really don't see any problems with it. As for the SPLENDIFEROUS (I love that name SO HARD) Arc and fleshing THAT out, in canon it introduces some key characters and concepts. I say that in this arc, we start to go deeper into what Lawyerman is fighting for, why Stargazer joins up with him and other things essential to the plot.

Also, yes, I DID do something like this:

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For easy sorting pleasure, I've decided to divide the plotline into seperate arcs. It includes arcs we've already settled on, as well as some I made up myself :'D.

Spoiler: Arcs
The LAWYERMAN! Arc- The current arc. It deals with the present day Lawyerman (sometime around the first game) as we follow his missions. It ends at the same time as the third game or so. It covers almost all PW characters and some AJ charactrers.

The Aeon Arc- The Future arc, covering Aeon's adventures present day and future Lawyermanverse. Covers a majority of the AJ characters and at some point merges with the LAWYERMAN! Arc.

The Miss Murder Arc (Alternate name: The Comet Files Arc)- A flashback arc, taking us to the past to learn more about Miss Murder and Comet. It covers the equivilent of 3-1 and 3-4. Merges with Fey Clan Arc.

The Fey Clan Arc- Focus is put on a string of crimes surrounding the Fey clan and the Feys themselves. The main and branch families are explored in more detail as more crimes take place.

The DL-6 Arc- Covers the effects of DL-6 in the Lawyermanverse, as well as giving a backstory to Cravatman. Merges with LAWYERMAN! Arc.

The Gramarye Arc- An important arc covering the mysteries surrounding Lawboy and Magician, as well as the Gramarye troupe. Merges with Aeon Arc.

There is also an extra arc I came up with, as maybe a side issue or something:

The Cravatman Arc- A minor spinoff arc containing the solo adventures of Cravatman. The game equivilent of this arc if the Perfect Prosecutor game. An optional arc that makes no effect on the current storyline.


These are just suggestions and certantly nothing permanent, but I thought it might make organizing the events of the project a little easier. :edgy:


Though, as you can see, mine are much broader and foucus on splitting the story into...seasons or books, if you will. I much prefer the newer method: it gets straight to the heart of each different "chapter".
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Ok, summaries so far.

#1: Wriggler kills Cindy, Larry gets blamed, LM and Comet kick Wrigglers Arse, and we find out about the Mayor. It's an introduction to Nick really.
#2: Flashback to state VS. Hawthorn. A switcheroo means that Iris is the one in Jail, and Nick gets her off. But then a witness gets killed by the real Dahlia, and then it's Comet VS Miss Murder. Kristoph Gavin suspects that Nick tampered with the evidence, but Payne goes down for it. Comet takes Nick under her superhero wing.

#3-#x:
I only really planned a few things so far. Big battle between Comet and SPLENDIFEROUS then he kills her. Maya is originally suspected of the murder, Cravatman tries to take him down and sides with Pink. Then it's Nick who gets suspected... and that's as far as I got. I know FF had a grand plan for Redd that she wanted to unleash, and for it to work we're putting in Reflecto in quite a bit early.

That's all I got. <3
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#4-#x:
Citro spends his day on the toilet reflecting on the past.
Wocky dies, there was much rejoicing.

That's all I got. <3


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Okay. So. I just thought I had to throw Reflecto in there for an awesome idea I had. XD

Redd gets Pink to steal Reflecto's monocle, which is said to have unspeakable abilities. SPLENDIFEROUS can concentrate light into the monocle to make a super-powerful deadly heat ray. |D

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*sigh* This is why I get depressed... hardly anyone cares anymore. :( I remember the time when asking people for ideas would provoke a flood of them, but not now...
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Okay then, Here's something.

A time travel arc. (not coming back from the future like Aeon)
Cliché yes, Fun to come up with, Yes.
I'm not talking back to the future here, but a time line that's predetermined.
The one going back has to set things in motion, however corrupt or evil they may be to keep his reality from turning out differently.
So he's neither a villain nor Hero, just someone who has to set things right.

Hiding in the shadows, manipulating events, etc.
Only in the end we found out who he is, and his true identity will stun friend and foe alike.

There, contributed. ~
Let the time travel (paradox) string of ideas commence!
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It's an interesting idea, and one we should definitely discuss :) Thing is though, we need ideas for the early stuff too, otherwise we'll never get to ideas like these. XD
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The Wrestlemania Is staying in this comic.

The Wrestlemania is keeping his character, "Michael T. Crafken", in the story.

The Wrestlemania would like to discuss Plot Ideas with Gerkuman.

The Wrestlemania is tired of speaking in the Third Person.

... Anyways, Ciao! :edgy:
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The Gerkuman would've liked Wrestlemania to have posted the ideas. XD But anyways, I can talk to him on MSN. :)
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It's an interesting idea, and one we should definitely discuss :) Thing is though, we need ideas for the early stuff too, otherwise we'll never get to ideas like these. XD

This.

Anyway, I was thinking earlier.... If Reflecto is involved in the SPLENDIFEROUS arc, this could be a good opportunity to introduce COURT and The Soul Captains into the story.
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I've got an idea. If we're going to add Reflecto in there (I have some badass concept art for him, by the way) I have a theory as to why SPLENDIFEROUS has Pink steal said monocle, besides it having uber awesome unspeakable powah.

If Mr. Purple Hair parallels his PWverse self, then he holds some kind of power over parts of the government. The Soul Captains are pretty much part of LMverse's legal system, being founded by COURT and whatnot. So, where I'm going with this is that SPENDIFEROUS has been extorting Reflecto for some reason and needs his special monocle for part of some super villiany plot. Comet finds out about this after tracking SPLENIFEROUS for her own reasons. COURT also finds out about the manipulation of the Soul Captains and tries to stop the plot on their own end.

The other characters get dragged in and that's all I got. :P
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MezzoForte wrote:
I've got an idea. If we're going to add Reflecto in there (I have some badass concept art for him, by the way) I have a theory as to why SPLENDIFEROUS has Pink steal said monocle, besides it having uber awesome unspeakable powah.

If Mr. Purple Hair parallels his PWverse self, then he holds some kind of power over parts of the government. The Soul Captains are pretty much part of LMverse's legal system, being founded by COURT and whatnot. So, where I'm going with this is that SPENDIFEROUS has been extorting Reflecto for some reason and needs his special monocle for part of some super villiany plot. Comet finds out about this after tracking SPLENIFEROUS for her own reasons. COURT also finds out about the manipulation of the Soul Captains and tries to stop the plot on their own end.

The other characters get dragged in and that's all I got. :P

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The problem with that is that we have to start the arc with a stand-alone story. I was hoping to start it with a two parter, sandwich two standalones in the middle, then do another two-parter.
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The problem with that is that we have to start the arc with a stand-alone story. I was hoping to start it with a two parter, sandwich two standalones in the middle, then do another two-parter.

We have to? But since it's an arc, don't all of the issues within it have to be interrelated?
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.....Time Travel? Like go back to 1950s and see like Golden age versions of theselves, maybe? It worked with DC and alternate universe. Yeah sorry for the crappy ideas, I'm just trying to get my ass thinking after spending so long without contributing a damn thing to this project.
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It's not because I have to, it's more that people will start to whine 'Where are all the cliffhangers?' XD
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Well, can't we still have cliffhangers if the organize the arc in an episodic format? XD That's how it's usually done, I think.
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I've even found a way to involve Citro actually being Citro for part of this arc :D That evidence that Mia found and wanted Maya to hold on to? It's evidence of Redd's blackmail of Grossberg. So yes, when Grossberg finds out about the evidence, he's going to want to hold onto it. Enter Citro!

(And yeah, this is why Mia and Grossberg fell out. They hinted at that in the games, so I thought I'd make that more obvious in the series.)
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So let's figure out what Citro does in the SPLENDIFEROUS arc. He finds out about the blackmail after Mia's death. So this is what I think should happen:

Grossberg finds out about the blackmail letters from Redd White for him in Mia's possession almost simulataneously with Mia's death. He's fearful and slightly angry at the situation with the blackmail. He didn't want Mia to find out about all the wrong things he has done, especially concerning a certain *cough* Misty Fey >.> And since the letters were in police possession now, he was too worried about them getting out to the public. Redd White sends him a message to suggest to him to steal it back or else his reputation will be in shambles. Grossberg considers this, but eventually decides to go with his better judgement. He dons his Citro costume once more and helps Lawyerman in the final battle with SPLENDIFEROUS and becomes instrumental to its success. The battle ends with Comet, being channeled through Stargazer, freezing SPLENDIFEROUS in a permanent block of ice.

She turns to Citro and he is afraid to face her at first, but he apologizes for all that he has done and feels terrible that in all of his worrying he never allowed himself time to grieve for Mia. He doesn't expect Mia to forgive her, but she does. She forgives him for everything and gives him a kiss to the forehead before turning back into Maya.

(Sorry I kind of made Citro look kinda pathetic there, again, Ceres. D: But he'll be really badass in the battle!)
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Hey guys. Look, a post from me!

Here are some icons for these guys:
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I know you already have one for Aeon, but that one shows his button on his hat, when it should be moved to his chest. So I fixed it. I also don't know how to upload them to the wiki, so if someone wants to do that, it would be cool.
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Welcome back, GP! :D

Yeah, I made both of the current ones. XD That's certainly an improvement on Aeon. I was intending to take off the button but I didn't think I could fix it to look right. How is the new Jazz one really any different?
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Look closely, his armours there. :3 I'll add em in a second.
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Yeah, what Gerk said. It's not a major difference, but it's there :gymshoe:
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As per Gerk's request, I have drawn Comet angry.

....But not only is it that; it's in FULL COLOR!

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DAYYYY-UMMM

THAT IS AWESOME. LEIK, BURNING.

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DAYYYY-UMMM

THAT IS AWESOME. LEIK, BURNING.

brb, rejoicing

But she's supposed to be FREEZING! :D *shot*

Thank you so much, Mezzo. ^_^
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Lol, she's like: Don't mess with me or I'll give you frostbites.
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MezzoForte wrote:
DAYYYY-UMMM

THAT IS AWESOME. LEIK, FROSTBITE.

brb, rejoicing

But she's supposed to be FREEZING! :D *shot*

Thank you so much, Mezzo. ^_^

OF COURSE :'D

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I would so totally help...

But it looks like all the awesome stuff started up in my six month hiatus.... ;-;
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I would so totally help...

But it looks like all the awesome stuff started up in my six month hiatus.... ;-;

That doesn't mean you can't help! ^_^ Since we're starting to develop a solid storyline, we need more help than ever.
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DID SOMEONE SAY THEY WANTED TO HELP!?

Seriously though, we need all the help we can get around here. As you can see, the number of active members on the project is rather small. So of COURSE you can help! As Fatal says, we're just developing our plot. (compare to SMako's plot structure and you'll see just how little our plot has actually developed :'D) SO COME ON IN!
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I feel so selfish, I want to make my favorite character so full of win, but they're a tweener D:
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Hey, all a tweener means is that they're not fully evil nor fully good. they're in between! :3 So share your ideas about your fave character. ^_^
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Oh goodness, I labeled tweener as ... well, one of those kind of useless sick kicks (Like Robin)

Anyway

Spoiler: To save space.
I'm not fully sure how to go about this, the story is still being written and all, although I for one hate being in the dark. In a recent gag RP my friend Glen1984 had all sort of misadventures with Phoenix, Maya, and the BLue Screeners, some of which involved FLUDD from Mario Sunshine and a variety of crazy stuff.

Also, after much fandom and guessing, I always saw Lisa as 99.9% probable that she was an android, although this is an alt. universe, so I can't say much in my defence.

On the subject of Magnets, it wouldn't be so much as mangets, as I would think that it would be something along the lines of what I like to call "Hodge Podge" weaponry, that is, being able to fashion (insert item/weapon/device here) out of pretty much anything metal and electric.

But that's just me e_e;;;

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On the subject of Magnets, it wouldn't be so much as mangets, as I would think that it would be something along the lines of what I like to call "Hodge Podge" weaponry, that is, being able to fashion (insert item/weapon/device here) out of pretty much anything metal and electric.

Actually that is EXACTLY PROgram's (Glen's) power. XD

Edit: Though we could talk about Lisa's power a bit more. Maybe she could temporarily make virtual reality into (almost) true reality? Just throwing out ideas.
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:keiko: Welcome to the Matrix Mr. Wright

:ack: Oh goodness...

Perhaps she's one of those characters that likes to mess with everyone, whether it be the good guys or villains. You know, that kind of rogue cannon that goes off when you least suspect it.

*doesn't help that Lisa turned into Metal Madness in our RP*

Spoiler: OH NOEZ METAL MADNESS
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