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If it is true, I have only this to say:

It's not enough they eat into the consumers' wallets, now they are trying to steal their competition's ideas?

Well, at least they're not gonna re-release the 360 as a better system, then jack up the price and take away the alternative products one could buy at a much cheaper price, like a certain OTHER company...
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Yeah, fuck Nintendo and their weekly handheld redesigns.
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See, the problem I have with Sony is with them alone, not their product. Their product, is great, no argument... but... well... if you haven't heard the sound byte yet of "599 US dollars" then do so now.

Personally, I love my Nintendo Wii, and all my other Nintendo Products that I own. I have an XBOX 360, but it mostly collects dust now (I have that "XBOX Crystal" version? You know, the one with Crimson Skies and... *shudders* .... Fable?). My sister plays the PS2 still... and that's really all there is.

Nintendo is great at 2 things: "wow"ing their consumers, and innovation... and others, but those are the leading 2.

Of course, that's simply one opinion in the vast sea of opinions.
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Nintendo has done quite a lot for the video-games industrie, yes, but right now they are not too appealing to core (a.k.a. the old casuals) and hardcore (a.k.a. the old core) gamers. There politic to target casual gamers (read: non-gamers) while sacrificing technicals advancements (online (Wii Online = a horrible, horrible joke), graphics, HD support (for the sake of all that is good, some Wii games don't even support widescreen!), no HDD (come on, 512 Mbit! Thats a joke!!!), etc.). That, and the fact that a lot of the good games are either ports or games that could have easily been done better on the XBOX 360 or PlayStation 3 (Super Mario Galaxy wouldn't have been any worst whit a traditional controller). In all honesty, I am disappointed whit the Wii. It may be a smash hit for Nintendo, but its not a great console for actual gamers...
I personally find that Nintendo did a much bether job whit the DS when it came to having a balanced library of games...
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Wrestlemania wrote:
If you haven't heard the sound byte yet of "599 US dollars" then do so now.

And my response to that is the following: Phoenix Wrong - No Sh!t Sherlock The first section has that sound byte in it.
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All I know is that I'm not going to spend my money on another 360 that has motion sensor. I got enough as it is...I'll stick to my old 360.
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See, the problem I have with Sony is with them alone, not their product. Their product, is great, no argument... but... well... if you haven't heard the sound byte yet of "599 US dollars" then do so now.


Well, the 40GB could be worth money if you didn't mind losing out on backwards compatability. Shopping around's pretty useful. I got a 60GB with 2 games and an extra controller for 500€ in Virgin Megastores. It's still expensive, but better than the shite deals Game were offering.
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500 quid is about 870 USD. >_>
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...holy shit.
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You make me wanna buy a borked PS3 and swap out the drive with my 1TB disk. o_O
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Darzie P wrote:
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See, the problem I have with Sony is with them alone, not their product. Their product, is great, no argument... but... well... if you haven't heard the sound byte yet of "599 US dollars" then do so now.


Well, the 40GB could be worth money if you didn't mind losing out on backwards compatability. Shopping around's pretty useful. I got a 60GB with 2 games and an extra controller for 500€ in Virgin Megastores. It's still expensive, but better than the shite deals Game were offering.

500€ = US$735.75

80GB PS3 bundled with MotorStorm = US$500
Another new game = US$60
Sixaxis = US$50

Grand total = US$610 (~415€)
Difference = US$125.75 (~85€)

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Dear lord....... Someone has to take out Sony before they can do it again!
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THANK YOU! Someone agrees with me!
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one of the problems with "hard core" gamers is that they don't want this huge massive change in gaming.

when i first heard about the wii. i was like "wtf, i don't want to play games like THAT!" i was the same way with fps. i always played on pc, and i always hated this "jump" to console shooters

the point is, nintendo had a great idea for the newcomers to gaming, but they really didn't consider the hardcore gamers. now that 360 practically holds the market on hardcore gaming, why would they screw this up and do what nintendo did, the very thing that their core fans are laughing at nintendo fans about?
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Because Microsoft, like Disney, never knows when to stop.
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Before we continue, let's establish what "hardcore" actually is so we don't start throwing it left and right with every argument.

IOW, define "hardcore".
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according to my definition, there are specific qualifications i ussually use

1. you play games regularly
2. videogames play a large/important/larger than nothing role in your life
3. you are/try to be informed about games (optional)


but that's just me, but other will ussually say somthing like
"you don't play kiddie games", "you play fps", "mature games" etc...
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Sony is also ANOTHER one that imitates its rivals...
@WTM No More Heroes, Unreal Tournament.... are hardcore.
(read: AWESOME)

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according to my definition, there are specific qualifications i ussually use

1. you play games regularly
2. videogames play a large/important/larger than nothing role in your life
3. you are/try to be informed about games (optional)


but that's just me, but other will ussually say somthing like
"you don't play kiddie games", "you play fps", "mature games" etc...



Oh lord, this post reeks of pretentiousness.

"hey guys im moar mature than u becuz i play kiddeh games instead of mindless shootans, u guys only play shootans becuz dey maek u feel mature n stuff, while I play me some kiddeh games because i dnt need a gun in mah hand to feel mature :)))))))))))))))"

It's been what Nintendo fans have been decreeing for the past few generations... the funny thing is, when a M rated game does appear on their system, they're the first point it out and recommend it wherever possible.

Hardcore Gamer = Someone who forms their opinion on games, doesn't listen to bullshit reviews, someone who will scratch the surface of a system's library to find gems that would go unnoticed by most. Someone who doesn't only play games that are shoved down their throats by marketers.
They should also be impartial to what console a system is on, and care only about the game itself.
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GearsoftheApparatus wrote:
andrx wrote:
according to my definition, there are specific qualifications i ussually use

1. you play games regularly
2. videogames play a large/important/larger than nothing role in your life
3. you are/try to be informed about games (optional)


but that's just me, but other will ussually say somthing like
"you don't play kiddie games", "you play fps", "mature games" etc...



Oh lord, this post reeks of pretentiousness.

"hey guys im moar mature than u becuz i play kiddeh games instead of mindless shootans, u guys only play shootans becuz dey maek u feel mature n stuff, while I play me some kiddeh games because i dnt need a gun in mah hand to feel mature :)))))))))))))))"

It's been what Nintendo fans have been decreeing for the past few generations... the funny thing is, when a M rated game does appear on their system, they're the first point it out and recommend it wherever possible.

Hardcore Gamer = Someone who forms their opinion on games, doesn't listen to bullshit reviews, someone who will scratch the surface of a system's library to find gems that would go unnoticed by most. Someone who doesn't only play games that are shoved down their throats by marketers.
They should also be impartial to what console a system is on, and care only about the game itself.

That was what Hardcore used to be, before Nintendo made the non-gamers the casuals, which then made the old casuals the "core-gamers" and made the old "core-gamers" the "hardcore-gamers". So, basicly, your definition is what hard-core used to be. Now its more like "Super Hardcore", or something...

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So the definition of "hardcore gamer" now changes depending on what Nintendo says it is? No, the non-gamers are still the non-gamers because playing Brain Age and the occasional round of Wii Bowling does not make you a "gamer".
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xD Thank you! I think that hard-core gamers are the ones that actually play the game for the game, not for "ooh! My friend told me this girl's got a hot voice" or "Well, my friend played it, so I sorta have to so I can learn to beat him in it"

Before my boyfriend, I was the only one who played Dynasty Warriors, Kessen, Samurai Warriors, and anything else KoeiWarriors related (which Koei is now RUINING! Dx) And none of them ever picked it up for fear of copying me....which sorta fits above.

I could elaborate on my thoughts of hard-core gamers, but I just woke up. ^-^
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as long as you play alot of games, and videogames are important to you, it shouldn't matter which games you play

so do we agree that hardcore gamers are people who take gaming seriously?
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Wii sucks imo. I mean it has some awesome games but 360 is sooo much better as a console.
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The wii doesn't have any Dynasty Warriors games!
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Kratos_de_Killer wrote:
Wii sucks imo. I mean it has some awesome games but 360 is sooo much better as a console.


so because 360 is better, wii sucks? you said it has awesome games, so why do you also say it sucks.

on a side not, rediculous posts like these are what starts flame wars
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andrx wrote:
Kratos_de_Killer wrote:
Wii sucks imo. I mean it has some awesome games but 360 is sooo much better as a console.


so because 360 is better, wii sucks? you said it has awesome games, so why do you also say it sucks.

on a side not, rediculous posts like these are what starts flame wars


Let's not start that junk now, shall we?

To Kratos: Give it some time. After a few years (I realize it's been a full year already but still) I'm sure we'll have a good decent amount of core games to look forward to.
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There's nothing to suggest that the Wii will end up as anything other than a Gamecube + gimmicky shovelware.
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How annoying.
Microsoft have seen the sales success for the Wii and decided to take their idea.

I'll laugh when their idea fails horribly.
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As of December of 2007, If you add the Microsoft Sales success with the Nintendo Sales Success, Sony's success isn't even a SIXTH of their combined total!!!

But yeah... Nintendo is beating Microsoft...
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Microsoft and Sony are Angin faceless corporations that copy innovative ideas of Ninty.
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You know, until this topic, I would've disagreed...
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Nintendo invented many things that changed gaming like the Analogue Sticks and Rumble Packs not to mention revolutionised the massive market of handheld gaming. All these things have been copied by the faceless corparations.
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True enough... Granted, remember the rumble pack initially? That large attachment to the end of the controller, making it weigh, like, 2 pounds more just to feel the controller shake when you crashed your Arwing in Star Fx 64?........ good times......

Also, games like "Mass Effect" copy the format of the original Star Fox, with the whole "choose the path you want to take!"....... but not as literal.
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O.O I remember the rumble packs! Aw, I miss those days!
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Concerned Citizen wrote:
What the hell are you all talking about?


the n64 had a clip on rumble pack, but it weighed a ton and made the controller feel strangely unbalanced. we're just remeniscing abotu how companies take successful ideas from other companies, the base of this thread
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