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Why does he need to date someone at all? He can have friends and still be single :P

There's also Makoto :D


Any Makoto romance in anyway and I will break into the Capcom building and kill every freakin' individual inside.

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I say they should have 4 cases for this game and five cases for the next to keep it with the format-4,4,5.
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There is a serious problem with number 3...

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Odoroki and Minuki are blood-related, so her being his girlfriend would be a serious no-no.


oshit. So how about Maya being his girlfriend? The age difference wouldn't be that far apart... Or maybe be can be a pedophile and date pearl.



Umm...I think Pearl would be about 18 in GS4...

Anyone good at math?

She was eight in jfa...add a year for TaT...
Then add 8 (or 9?) to get to GS4.

If I'm right (which I'm most likely not) that should be REALLY clost to 18.
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Meh, Odoroki has zero ties to Maya or Pearl. Neither were brought up by Nick, let alone Odoroki.

...And Pearl would be ~16 <_<

8+1(TaT)+7(till GS4)=16
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Meh, Odoroki has zero ties to Maya or Pearl. Neither were brought up by Nick, let alone Odoroki.

...And Pearl would be ~16 <_<

8+1(TaT)+7(till GS4)=16



See? All this proves is that he'd be a pedophile. :B Who brought up this "Pearls would be 18" stuff anyway?
<< >> I certainly didn't.

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I still like my idea the porsecutor is not only the murderer in the last case, but also helped the villains from the previous cases frame Ororoki's clients.

Something like this...

Killer: Damn! He's dead! What am I going to do?

The prosecutor appears, wearing a hooded cloak or something to hide his/her identity.

Prosecutor: Meheheh.... Don't worry. Just follow these instructions and you'll get away scot free.

Also, I'd like a case to start out at a beach, pool, or anywhere that would give Minuki and/or some other female character an excuse to wear a bathing suit.
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TheTigress wrote:
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Meh, Odoroki has zero ties to Maya or Pearl. Neither were brought up by Nick, let alone Odoroki.

...And Pearl would be ~16 <_<

8+1(TaT)+7(till GS4)=16



See? All this proves is that he'd be a pedophile. :B Who brought up this "Pearls would be 18" stuff anyway?
<< >> I certainly didn't.

*slinks away*

How does that make him a pedophile? :/ She's 16, not 12.
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She's a minor--period.

It's hard to have heated romance and a game series if the protagonist is led away in handcuffs the following morning for statutory rape.
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TheTigress wrote:
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There is a serious problem with number 3...

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Odoroki and Minuki are blood-related, so her being his girlfriend would be a serious no-no.


oshit. So how about Maya being his girlfriend? The age difference wouldn't be that far apart... Or maybe be can be a pedophile and date pearl.



Umm...I think Pearl would be about 18 in GS4...

Anyone good at math?

She was eight in jfa...add a year for TaT...
Then add 8 (or 9?) to get to GS4.

If I'm right (which I'm most likely not) that should be REALLY clost to 18.


GS4 takes place 7 years later right? So if Pearls is 8 in JFA, then she would be 15 in GS4.
That sounds "dodgy"...
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How about the whole story is based focused on the crimes of an infamous Russian confidence man whose evil doings and how they affected the lives of those around him are the main focus of the story; much like Dahlia, only more dramatic and badass. Also, he'd have ties to Bruto Cadaverini and many more criminal warlords in the criminal underground and he would have ties to Kristoph, naturally. Eventually, Russian con man and Kristoph make a climactic appearance at the end of GS6 as Apollo, Kyouya, the jury, and everyone else come together bring them down.

It would also tie in to the Arumajikis, thus tying up all loose ends and creating a happy, feel-good ending to the trilogy. Everything wraps up nicely and everyone lives happily ever after.

THEN GS7 COMES AROUND! AND, HOLY SHIT, MORE CASES! HOW AWESOME CAN THIS GET?
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Aetheryn wrote:
She's a minor--period.

It's hard to have heated romance and a game series if the protagonist is led away in handcuffs the following morning for statutory rape.


if she's 16, that means she's legal. At least here.

Actually, she would be 17. 8, JFA, plus 1, TaT, plus 7, GS4, plus 1, GS5. 8+1+7+1 = 9+8 =17.

It's old enough for her to be able to play a part. It would be really interesting to have the Judge, out of nowhere, ask Phoenix to get a spirit medium to channel the victim. XD
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She's a minor--period.

It's hard to have heated romance and a game series if the protagonist is led away in handcuffs the following morning for statutory rape.


She's a minor IN SOME STATES IN THE USA. Not in most of the rest of the world. Please do remember that before throwing words like rape and paedophilia around on a forum full of people from all over the world - it's somewhat inflammatory. :damon: Also - just because a 16 year old is dating doesn't mean she's having hot sex. Blimey.
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KingMobUK wrote:
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She's a minor--period.

It's hard to have heated romance and a game series if the protagonist is led away in handcuffs the following morning for statutory rape.


She's a minor IN SOME STATES IN THE USA. Not in most of the rest of the world. Please do remember that before throwing words like rape and paedophilia around on a forum full of people from all over the world - it's somewhat inflammatory.

Considering the localized versions of the PW games purportedly take place in California, it's statutory rape!
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They also take place in the future.
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I don't really mind if Phoenix and co stop appearing but they should just make at least Phoenix marry maya in a case where his engagement ring is mistaken for evidence and he can't say anything about it or maya will find out about it...hmm...and then he doesn't appear in GS6 because he is living overseas with maya/iris/whoever you pair him with. Something like that.

...And I have a STRONG feeling that GS5 first case will be Phoenix's.....I mean GS1 = Phoenix First case,so they could have an easy tutorial case,in GS2 phoenix had amnesia....GS3 it was mia's first case. GS4 Apollo's first case. GS5....I really think that they are going to use Phoenix "I haven't been in court for so long,damn I forgot what to do" for some reason.
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How about....
Edgeworth + Oldbag
Phoenix(omg hobo)+ Maya
Apollo + Pearl
Minuki + some sexy hot guy. Maybe Kyouya?..But he's got.. OH! MAKI!! OMG LUL

Kyouya+ Ema (hawt hawt hawt)
Payne + The judge (gay)
Morgan + Kirihito ( both villains, Morgan= Player so that makes good sense)

so?
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Aetheryn wrote:
She's a minor--period.

It's hard to have heated romance and a game series if the protagonist is led away in handcuffs the following morning for statutory rape.

Statutory rape =/= pedophilia, however.

And since the age of consent in Japan is like 12, there's nothing stopping them.
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In Japan it's 13, though some prefectures have laws about protecting minors which effectively put it higher (I think).
The idea of Nick and Maya marrying, especially with the evidence idea, sounds cute yet.. how can I put this? odd at the same time.
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It doesn't matter what the age is in Japan because the location of the game setting changes in localizations.

Besides, this thread is about our ideas for GS5, not age of consent.
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So, Klavier Gavin should return in this game?
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:odo-objection: OBJECTION! *presents wrong evidence*
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I will die laughing if that line of dialogue is in AJ. (OH SNAP! THE APOLLO JUSTICE ACRONYM HAS BEGUN)
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That's my name too, so if they did that, I would be more in tune with the game.
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Oooh! Maybe a twist in the story! Such as..Apollo was a villain the whole time! And then he is accused, and tried to get himself off the hook, but he actually, really did it, on purpose, and he uses reverse psychology and says things like "No, I really did do it. I killed Mr.McMan with a pistol" and such, so people go "No you didn't! You would never do something like that!" and some prosecutor who everyone hates because he actually thinks Apollo did it, and is mean to Apollo because he keeps calling him "Murderer" and such. And the victim was actually the prosecutor's brother and the prosecutor near the end actually thinks it was suicide and goes easy on Apollo but it turns in the end and they all figure Apollo was the killer. And Apollo planned this all from the beginning and that why he became a defense attorney. And believe in trust and all that shiitake mushrooms. So he could get people to think of his innocence. And adorableness. And how he would never kill someone. So Apollo was actually a murderer-mastermind, and nobody knew.

But Apollo is too cute for that. He's a nice guy, right? So...that wouldn't work...A whole post on something that wouldn't work, but it's just an idea. I like Apollo too much for him to be thrown out of the game. Or die.
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It doesn't matter what the age is in Japan because the location of the game setting changes in localizations.

Besides, this thread is about our ideas for GS5, not age of consent.


All right - sorry. But I was only responding to the idea that if Pearls isn't 18 - and someone over that age dates her, they're a paedophile. No. Even if we say US AoC = 21 in some places, paedophilia = an adult being sexually attracted to someone younger than 13. By GS5, Pearls is way above that. Call it hebephilia, if anything.
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But Apollo is too cute for that. He's a nice guy, right? So...that wouldn't work...A whole post on something that wouldn't work, but it's just an idea. I like Apollo too much for him to be thrown out of the game. Or die.


Spoiler: JFA Case 4
It would be funny to see Apollo go all Engarde on you, though. You could use the cup as evidence! :edgy:
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Okay, I'm just gonna throw this crazy idea out there.

Case One: One of Phoenix's friends is accused of murder. He gets you to defend them, but since he has such a personal stake, he tudors you the whole way (much to the chagrin of Apollo) even though it's Payne prosecuting, because he's just the only one available. You (the player) know what you're doing, but after the case, Wright says he could have done it better than you, so he's going to go back to law school. He does, and rarely appears again.

Case Two: (This is where it gets weird.) A golem (look up the Discworld one, as this one is similar to that kind) is accussed of killing the priest who created him. It seems hopeless, as immense (golem-like) strength is required, and he's the only one without holy words that prevent something like this. However, the evidence begins to point to another golem that was thought long destroyed. Just when it seems in the clear, the prosecutor (see Croik's idea) shows evidence of a motive. The golem has "clayrot" where the clay used to make him was inferior and can't support life. On the final day of the trial, the golem testifys, but midway though, it starts crumbling. It utters it's final words "I...Did Not...Cause Harm To [Insert Priest name here] before turning to dust. The trial ends sans a verdict.

Case Three: Apollo gets a call at 4:00 AM, from the prosecutor of case two. It turns out, another priest offered to save the golem through blessing and better clay, but since this involves going into the golem's cell, he needed permission from the prosecutor. Now she's accused of murder since she didn't give permission. She claims to have never recieved the letter asking permission. Edgeworth prosecutes (nothing special here, Wright isn't involved, it's just Edgy doin his job). Apollo calls Wright asking for help, and Wright tells Apollo to look for motives from people who give letters from prisoners to the prosecutor. It turns out, the prosecutor's secretary is against artificial life, and intercepted the letter, later found in her desk. On the final day, Edgy claims that the prosecutor (I'm just gonna call her Fran2 from now on) placed the letter in her sectetary's desk in order to frame her. He then calls Fran2's secretary. Apollo presses, asking if anyone can take or plant important evidence in the desk, and the secreraty responds "No! I have a combination lock on all my drawers and I'm the only one who has the comin...ation..." and then freaks out.

Okay, that's all I got.
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Mmm, I'm going to expand on an idea that a poster had. Sorry that I can't remember your name mister stranger guy, I just like this idea as a plot twist.

Case 1: A basic tutorial case, with Payne, amnesia, Hobohodo, not guilty verdicts, and herpes fun.
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Case 2: Apollo takes a seemingly simple case involving the ever stupid :larry:. He's accused of murdering his girlfriend, and :hobohodo: pressures you into taking the case.

After a day of investigation, you find a whole load of evidence that points to your client being innocent. Apollo walks into the courtroom, high and mighty, acting cocky about the simple case.

Standing across from Apollo is a tall, 16 year old prodigy (ugh.), wearing a nice beret, with medium-long brown hair, and magatama. Wait, magatama? The young lady says she's from Kurain Village, and she studied to become a prosecutor (like :mia: did to become a lawyer, adds Phoenix.)

Spoiler: Not really a spoiler.
Makes sense, Mia also wore a magatama in the time you see her in 1-1. Not sure about young Mia. Oh, and, look up 'emulation' in the dictionary, might give a clue.


She goes by a 5 letter name (I have absolutely no clue where to go with this.), like a certain coffee bean smoking jerkhole.

You eventually win the case, and the girl leaves with an older looking woman. Maybe around 27-ish.
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Case 3: :kyouya: is charged with the murder of his manager (Adrian? No.) I honestly don't care about the details, so I'll just add the important stuff in.

You get into a heated objection battle with the 16 year old prodigy, and all of a sudden she uses the Kurain technique to transform into
Spoiler: GS3
*gasp* :godot:, so she can get some help. (Assuming he got the death penalty)


So, you pull this case out by a hair, too, and Phoenix begins to wonder about how this little girl knew about Godot and his death?
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Case 4: Epic time.

:franny: is charged with the murder of Adrian Andrews her sibling from Germany.

Spoiler: Sorta.
In case 1-4, Manfred von Karma mentions that he has a granddaughter. This means either A. Franny got knocked up or B. Franny has a sister/brother. I go with B.


She comes looking for Phoenix Wright. Needless to say, she finds him.

At first, Phoenix doesn't believe that this is Franny. One flash of De Killer's card changes his mind. He breaks the news that he's no longer a lawyer, and beelines with Franny to Apollo's office.

He takes the case, without knowing that the murder happened in good ol' Germ-germ.

Spoiler: To save some space
Franny has been living in America for a long time now. She recently went on vacation to Germany to visit her family. She's accused of strangling her bro/sis with her whip (ha.)

To mess this up even more, Franny goes to America to find a lawyer because all the attorneys in Germany are scared of her. This means that Apollo must go overseas to investigate the murder (which means no help from Phoenix.)


Skip investigation, and we head to trial day (which is in America, since technically Franny is an American citizen.). You vs. Ms. Kurain.

She doesn't want to mess this trial up like last time, so she immediately transforms into a certain prosecutor, after some advice from the same lady from case 2. She transforms into none other than :headbang:

Personal hate aside (Franny hates her dad, and stuff.) the trial goes on. von Karma hasn't lost his touch, and the trial drags on for a good 2-3 days. (My wallet feels sad just thinking about it, says Apollo, thinking about the ticket prices.)

Eventually, you defeat von Karma. In his anger, he severs his tie with the girl, and in the attempt, breaks the little girl's magatama. Damn.

Suddenly, a locket flies through the air and hits Apollo in the forehead. He hits the ground, but eventually wakes up. He opens up the locket to see a picture of Maya, Pearl, and Phoenix together, 7 long years ago. He compares the physical similarities between the girl and Pearl and figures out...

The prosecutor's name is Mike Meekins Pearl Fey.


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Wouldn't it be 8 years since it's a year after GS4?
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Wouldn't it be 8 years since it's a year after GS4?


Ah, true.

Then :pearl: would be 17, and :maya: would be 28.
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But Apollo is too cute for that. He's a nice guy, right? So...that wouldn't work...A whole post on something that wouldn't work, but it's just an idea. I like Apollo too much for him to be thrown out of the game. Or die.


Spoiler: JFA Case 4
It would be funny to see Apollo go all Engarde on you, though. You could use the cup as evidence! :edgy:


LOL I can picture Apollo shaving his head off and drinking beer. Sort of. But still, and Odo as the killer would be funny. But sad.
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I wonder if Meekins will ever turn his messed-up life around and become the head of some crime syndicate; sipping champagne, ordering countless hits out on rival factions, and putting a monopoly on the red-light district.
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Pearls becomung a prosecutor sounds a really neat idea actually, it's the opposite of what you'd "almost" expect.
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Pearl will clearly be channeling Payne in Case 5-1.

Including hair flip.


And Fey dress.
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Prosecutor Pearl Fey.

That's a nice twist, right there. I don't really like the idea of Pearl becoming some sort of evil cheating prosecutor, but it would be a nice twist... I guess.

She could study under Franny or something like that.
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Agreed, the idea of adorable Pearls becoming twisted/bad is just.. odd to me. But she could be more like Edgey rather than Fran I guess.
Would be a good twist though.
The dark ending for Apollo sounds too much like 2-4 so might not be done, but I like the "Apollo falls for a murderer" idea.
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I'm thinking that the new game should be focused on Apollo.
I mean, Phoenix always escapes death so many times, why not have him be a victim.
Mia Fey was the victim in GS1, so why not Phoenix?
Phoenix is a Harry Potter like character aka: a main that never dies, even after he is no longer the main hero.
Or, they could make Phoenix the Judge, he's growing too old to be a defense attorney, he's probably going to be in his early 40's in the next game.
Instead of having him in as a hobo, they could make him the new Judge.
I'm sorry, but the current Judge is getting too old for his job, being the Judge for three whole games.
If anyone should return, it should be the cast from GS4 (with the exception of Kristoph Gavin, whose in jail/executed).
If people want the old cast back, Capcom could make a flash back case of the events after GS3 but before GS4 explaining more of what happened to the Fey's.
If Miles did return, what would he be doing? Prosecuting?
I think that the cast of GS4 should return it only makes sense, the old cast lives on in fanfics, take something new, take it all the way.
Flashback cases would be fine, at least one, if people want Edgeworth back.

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The game really needs to focus on Apollo. Any deep storyline cases should revolve around him, his past or family.

Since Phoenix has matured into a Mia-type level, he should refuse to go back to being a Lawyer, and should occasionally mentor Apollo. Maya and Pearl don't really need to come back, they have no relation to Apollo and Trucy, and to introduce the Kurain spirit channeling thing into a game with a brand new Minuku system would be confusing to fans who started with GS4.

As for Edgeworth, if they bring him in, I think he should die in this game. He may be awesome, but I don't think there's much they can do with him now, and bringing him in would only please the fanboy/girls and anger the people who want a story about his reappearance. If Edgeworth does die, the case should be held overseas and Franziska should be accused of murdering him.

I like Croik's idea of the new prosecutor being an old lady. Since almost all prosecutors in the world of Ace Attorney have a grudge against the defense attorney, maybe the new prosecutor should be angry at Apollo's relationship with Trucy, because a magician accidently killed her child several years ago, and the magician is Apollo's father! :O But that's just my idea.

And finally, as for Winston's hairstyle, I think he should have a mullet.
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The game really needs to focus on Apollo. Any deep storyline cases should revolve around him, his past or family.

Since Phoenix has matured into a Mia-type level, he should refuse to go back to being a Lawyer, and should occasionally mentor Apollo. Maya and Pearl don't really need to come back, they have no relation to Apollo and Trucy, and to introduce the Kurain spirit channeling thing into a game with a brand new Minuku system would be confusing to fans who started with GS4.

As for Edgeworth, if they bring him in, I think he should die in this game. He may be awesome, but I don't think there's much they can do with him now, and bringing him in would only please the fanboy/girls and anger the people who want a story about his reappearance. If Edgeworth does die, the case should be held overseas and Franziska should be accused of murdering him.

I like Croik's idea of the new prosecutor being an old lady. Since almost all prosecutors in the world of Ace Attorney have a grudge against the defense attorney, maybe the new prosecutor should be angry at Apollo's relationship with Trucy, because a magician accidently killed her child several years ago, and the magician is Apollo's father! :O But that's just my idea.

And finally, as for Winston's hairstyle, I think he should have a mullet.

While I believe that the story should focus on apollo, it just wouldn't make sense for Phoenix to NOT become a lawyer again. He loves his job!But he could just not be the one that the story concentrates on.

But I honestly still want Phoenix to appear again. Not as the main character,but maybe let's say,let him take the case 3. The third case of each game is always a filler anyway.

Haha but honestly,the way I see it in GS 4 Phoenix was still the main character. You play as apollo,alright but every main character knew phoenix, and the main story had Phoenix involved.
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I'm thinking that the new game should be focused on Apollo.
I mean, Phoenix always escapes death so many times, why not have him be a victim.
Mia Fey was the victim in GS1, so why not Phoenix?
Phoenix is a Harry Potter like character aka: a main that never dies, even after he is no longer the main hero.
Or, they could make Phoenix the Judge, he's growing too old to be a defense attorney, he's probably going to be in his early 40's in the next game.
Instead of having him in as a hobo, they could make him the new Judge.
I'm sorry, but the current Judge is getting too old for his job, being the Judge for three whole games.
If anyone should return, it should be the cast from GS4 (with the exception of Kristoph Gavin, whose in jail/executed).
If people want the old cast back, Capcom could make a flash back case of the events after GS3 but before GS4 explaining more of what happened to the Fey's.
If Miles did return, what would he be doing? Prosecuting?
I think that the cast of GS4 should return it only makes sense, the old cast lives on in fanfics, take something new, take it all the way.
Flashback cases would be fine, at least one, if people want Edgeworth back.
So if Apollo is like Harry Potter, then that would mean that...uh...either Phoenix, Kristoph, or the judge is gay then... Dumbledore and all... :meekins:
Too lazy... hur hur.
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