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Very good from scratch location. The only thing is, you have to make the outline blend a little more with everything. Maybe a really dark shade? Other than that, excellent.

hmmm... do you mean give the outline a darker shade or the things around it? :will:
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another update:
Spoiler: Updated Cindys room
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Spoiler: Cindys room dawn
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UPDATE! I have a few new kavlier poses:
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Frist :

GOD DAMNIT! Sorry i was in the process of doing a Klaiver Aid.

Anyway!
the thinking one looks slightly off. Or maybe thats just me.
And on the Aid pose theres no Chain on Klaivers "G" Just looks slightly weird that it's just floating there.
Apart fom that There pretty good!
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GOD DAMNIT! Sorry i was in the process of doing a Klaiver Aid.

Anyway!
the thinking one looks slightly off. Or maybe thats just me.
And on the Aid pose theres no Chain on Klaivers "G" Just looks slightly weird that it's just floating there.
Apart fom that There pretty good!

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1) I agree looking at it, maybe it's the outline...
2) I'll have to add a chain sometime :will:
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DefenceLawyer wrote:
UPDATE! I have a few new kavlier poses:
Spoiler: AID sprite
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what do you think?


Constructive Criticism time...

I love all the Klavier poses except the aid. There are a few errors with it, mainly...

1. Face is blurry
2. White outline around hair and when the animation finishes before looping, there are pieces of white particles.
3. Shirt is a bit rough- needs a bit of improvement but that's it.

In conclusion, well done.

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Ptapcc wrote:
DefenceLawyer wrote:
UPDATE! I have a few new kavlier poses:
Spoiler: AID sprite
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what do you think?


Constructive Criticism time...

I love all the Klavier poses except the aid. There are a few errors with it, mainly...

1. Face is blurry
2. White outline around hair and when the animation finishes before looping, there are pieces of white particles.
3. Shirt is a bit rough- needs a bit of improvement but that's it.

In conclusion, well done.

Ptapcc

i agree, i'll work on it :will:
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The aide sprite's good, but you've done it so the nose is slightly hooked and that changes Klavier's face a lot, maybe you could work on that? But I adore the other poses, especially where his arms are crossed (you used Kristoph's arms, right?)
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PandaPrinzessin wrote:
The aide sprite's good, but you've done it so the nose is slightly hooked and that changes Klavier's face a lot, maybe you could work on that? But I adore the other poses, especially where his arms are crossed (you used Kristoph's arms, right?)

yep, I'm too lazy to make my own :will:
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I need so advice how to improve my new OCs, what can yyou say?
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DefenceLawyer wrote:
I need so advice how to improve my new OCs, what can yyou say?
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Constructive Criticism and Advice

1. The face needs improvement. It's not blurry but the eyes, mouth, nose and other features aren't sharp. His chin also needs work as it isn't raised like a defense and prosecuting attorney's would be.

2. Hair needs improvement. It's flat and boring.

3. Blazer is rough and needs work.

4. V-Neck needs improvement by adding more tones to it.

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Ptapcc wrote:
DefenceLawyer wrote:
I need so advice how to improve my new OCs, what can yyou say?
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Constructive Criticism and Advice

1. The face needs improvement. It's not blurry but the eyes, mouth, nose and other features aren't sharp. His chin also needs work as it isn't raised like a defense and prosecuting attorney's would be.

2. Hair needs improvement. It's flat and boring.

3. Blazer is rough and needs work.

4. V-Neck needs improvement by adding more tones to it.

Ptapcc

*Runs off to work on it*
thanks, at least some people are kind and helpful unlike silentbobx:will:
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Theres a few more small pixels flicking of the lineing,
and like Ptapcc said the face is well, weird. But i like the hair!
The second one the arm behind the back the right arm looks weird. I don't know what it is but the porportion seems slightly off.
And the V neck seems to be facing front when the bod is at an angle.

I'm still jelous it's quite good. Was it a pure Custom one or did you use a base? Because if it was a "no baser" then it looks quite accurate.
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Theres a few more small pixels flicking of the lineing,
and like Ptapcc said the face is well, weird. But i like the hair!
The second one the arm behind the back the right arm looks weird. I don't know what it is but the porportion seems slightly off.
And the V neck seems to be facing front when the bod is at an angle.

I'm still jelous it's quite good. Was it a pure Custom one or did you use a base? Because if it was a "no baser" then it looks quite accurate.

although it sounds really rude, it was a "no baser"
and the arm one was just out of boredem, I'll fix it soon. :will:
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ps I have just dug out this: one of my first atempts at him.
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DefenceLawyer wrote:
ps I have just dug out this: one of my first atempts at him.
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That looks weird but funny.

No baser means you don't use base. Like you don't use a sprite base like. Handrawn. like my Goku DA i drew the body. It's a proper custom one.

Also one bit adivece EDIT not double post,
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KrazyKaro wrote:
DefenceLawyer wrote:
ps I have just dug out this: one of my first atempts at him.
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That looks weird but funny.

No baser means you don't use base. Like you don't use a sprite base like. Handrawn. like my Goku DA i drew the body. It's a proper custom one.

Also one bit adivece EDIT not double post,

darn it, I did it again :phoenix:
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DefenceLawyer wrote:
ps I have just dug out this: one of my first atempts at him.
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HAHAHAHAHA!This is funny in a positive way!
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Coffee Prosecutor wrote:
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ps I have just dug out this: one of my first atempts at him.
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HAHAHAHAHA!This is funny in a positive way!

thanks :will:
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and last for the night:
a GS5 Klavier (If it's in the future):
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I have to say, at first glance I was like "Oh God what the hell is that." but it actually looks quite good.
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DefenceLawyer wrote:
and last for the night:
a GS5 Klavier (If it's in the future):
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If my eyes do not mistake me, then I see a Shadi Smith edit. I think this could be improved by removing the second bang and hat or just remove the hat and 'thin' the body to match Klavier.

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DefenceLawyer wrote:
and last for the night:
a GS5 Klavier (If it's in the future):
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I like this,but it´s not Klavier´s body,as Ptapcc said it´s from Shadi Smith so it sin´t his body and
Where´s Klavier´s "G"chain?
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Ptapcc wrote:
DefenceLawyer wrote:
and last for the night:
a GS5 Klavier (If it's in the future):
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If my eyes do not mistake me, then I see a Shadi Smith edit. I think this could be improved by removing the second bang and hat or just remove the hat and 'thin' the body to match Klavier.

Ptapcc


Keep the second bang. I like it. but yeah remove the hat. Maybe darken the coat it looks like a crystal / metal coat. And as CP He needs his chain. As A Fangirl i demand a chain. As A sprite Artist is still needs a chain.

Apart from that, very clean, very sweet,
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KrazyKaro wrote:
Ptapcc wrote:
DefenceLawyer wrote:
and last for the night:
a GS5 Klavier (If it's in the future):
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If my eyes do not mistake me, then I see a Shadi Smith edit. I think this could be improved by removing the second bang and hat or just remove the hat and 'thin' the body to match Klavier.

Ptapcc


Keep the second bang. I like it. but yeah remove the hat. Maybe darken the coat it looks like a crystal / metal coat. And as CP He needs his chain. As A Fangirl i demand a chain. As A sprite Artist is still needs a chain.

Apart from that, very clean, very sweet,

It was meant to be when he retired, also:
1)I'll kick out the hat
2)I meant to make it more like that, as if to say he got older a bit
3)shall i keep the second bang :will:
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KrazyKaro wrote:
Ptapcc wrote:
DefenceLawyer wrote:
and last for the night:
a GS5 Klavier (If it's in the future):
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If my eyes do not mistake me, then I see a Shadi Smith edit. I think this could be improved by removing the second bang and hat or just remove the hat and 'thin' the body to match Klavier.

Ptapcc


Keep the second bang. I like it. but yeah remove the hat. Maybe darken the coat it looks like a crystal / metal coat. And as CP He needs his chain. As A Fangirl i demand a chain. As A sprite Artist is still needs a chain.

Apart from that, very clean, very sweet,


I'm loving GS5 Klavier. For the jacket, maybe a dark blue sort of colour would suit his new look. ^^ Oh, and the chain. We need the chain. lol. :trucy:

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ok, here is the revamped OC, do you think it's an improvement?
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Spoiler: original
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ok, here is the revamped OC, do you think it's an improvement?
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Constructive Criticism time (*Now featuring a catchy jingle*)

1. His jacket is too big for him and with his height, he just seems swamped in it.
2. Face isn't big enough for his body. It also has small eyes, mouth, nose and other features. Enlarge them and make it clearer for better quality and to just make it look good.
3. Hair seems flat.
4. Colours for jacket are rather dark and don't seem to suit him, though this could be my personal opinion.

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Ptapcc wrote:
DefenceLawyer wrote:
ok, here is the revamped OC, do you think it's an improvement?
Spoiler: new
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Spoiler: original
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Constructive Criticism time (*Now featuring a catchy jingle*)

1. His jacket is too big for him and with his height, he just seems swamped in it.
2. Face isn't big enough for his body. It also has small eyes, mouth, nose and other features. Enlarge them and make it clearer for better quality and to just make it look good.
3. Hair seems flat.
4. Colours for jacket are rather dark and don't seem to suit him, though this could be my personal opinion.

Ptapcc

hmm... I'll see what I can do, but what can I do about the hair? I can't seem to fix it :will:
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DefenceLawyer wrote:
Ptapcc wrote:
DefenceLawyer wrote:
ok, here is the revamped OC, do you think it's an improvement?
Spoiler: new
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Spoiler: original
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Constructive Criticism time (*Now featuring a catchy jingle*)

1. His jacket is too big for him and with his height, he just seems swamped in it.
2. Face isn't big enough for his body. It also has small eyes, mouth, nose and other features. Enlarge them and make it clearer for better quality and to just make it look good.
3. Hair seems flat.
4. Colours for jacket are rather dark and don't seem to suit him, though this could be my personal opinion.

Ptapcc

hmm... I'll see what I can do, but what can I do about the hair? I can't seem to fix it :will:


Constructive Criticism time Revamped *Jingle*

To me, the hair bang and the whole head of hair is really dull, flat and boring. It needs some spark so give him a sort of rockish, punk hair style with his front bang sporting several spikes. That should make him exciting but still following the Defence Attorney Handbook/Guide to Hair Styles :karma:.

I was having a closer look at the sprites again using GIMP and another issue I commented on has become clearer to me. The eyes and head. The head is too fake and very egg like, so it doesn't look good. The eyes, as I've said, are small, not clear and don't really look good.

Now I don't suggest you frankensprite as I've seen you say Doug Ennin's sprites are custom made. Have a look at Lind L Taylors Kristoph Gavin Defense sprites to see the eyes and try to mimic that sort of style for the perfect look.

I look forward to seeing the next result.

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I think for the head, the head and neck needs more Distinction. It kinda looks as if he has no Neck and just bg head.
I stll like the hair though.
The jacket needs a bi more work like Ptapcc said , you might not want to go with black or maybe tun the satutraion up on them, It's hard but you can't see my of th outline and it took me a while to fine them.

The eyes worry me because i think there fine and it's just the head shape that makes them look weird. Or maybe they need spacing a little more. They seem rather close. It annoys me that i can't see what's makes them look weird. The glasses help alot though.
Overall a good revamp better than the first.
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KrazyKaro wrote:
I think for the head, the head and neck needs more Distinction. It kinda looks as if he has no Neck and just bg head.
I stll like the hair though.
The jacket needs a bi more work like Ptapcc said , you might not want to go with black or maybe tun the satutraion up on them, It's hard but you can't see my of th outline and it took me a while to fine them.

The eyes worry me because i think there fine and it's just the head shape that makes them look weird. Or maybe they need spacing a little more. They seem rather close. It annoys me that i can't see what's makes them look weird. The glasses help alot though.
Overall a good revamp better than the first.

thanks, new edits are on the way,
also the new one compared to the first ever one (before the first revamp):
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and with the eyes might editing the eyebrows help? :will:
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Seeing these revamps together makes me adjust my opinion a bit to suit KrazyKaro's. The eyes need a tiny bit of tweaking with glasses (enlargement) but the facial structure and head needs a lot of work. The body is also another one as it's very rough. The best advice I can give at the moment is to have a look at Phoenix and Defense Edgeworth's poses, only so that you can improve the little errors.

Oh well, I think I'm finished commenting for the night. Good night everyone.

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Ptapcc wrote:
Seeing these revamps together makes me adjust my opinion a bit to suit KrazyKaro's. The eyes need a tiny bit of tweaking with glasses (enlargement) but the facial structure and head needs a lot of work. The body is also another one as it's very rough. The best advice I can give at the moment is to have a look at Phoenix and Defense Edgeworth's poses, only so that you can improve the little errors.

Oh well, I think I'm finished commenting for the night. Good night everyone.

Ptapcc

good night ptapcc, it's funny because here in England I have only just woke up an hour ago :will:
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ok then, I have been trying to make some percieve sprites:
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It still needs a LOT! of editing :will:
EDIT: sorry for the terrible white bits
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Cool!
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Cool!
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thanks pal, I'm getting rid of the whiteness by the minute :will:
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[quote="LawfulMagician]What I do is first take a pose from the offical art and grayscale it (I shrunk the Trucy sprite by 50% only because it was so big and it'd take up a lot space. The game doesn't shrink the sprite at all.). Then I look at the mouth animation and change the mouth to fit the pose. I also change the chin if I have to by only 1 pixel, because the chin doesn't usually move that much.
As for the twitches, it kinda depends on the twitch. To make Trucy fiddle with her glove I had to make 4 different frames. Depending on what twitch they have it can be as little as 2 frames or as much as 7 or so.[/quote]

Ta-da! LawfulMagician's guide to making perceive sprites. Hope it helps. On another note, good job so far.

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I have animated some paynes:
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what do you all think? :will:
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All seem to be fine but the hand one i think needs to be slowed down. Slightly too fast. To be honest somthings bugging me with the angry one. Maybe it ijust where it goes back to the mouth, it looks slightly weird. I think i needs an angry mouth. It seems to go from happy straight to angry.

I hate animation ones they confuse the hell out of me. But there good and the othe two seem to be fine. I REALLY like the Double thumbs up one. :D
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