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Re: Dl6 vs SL9

Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:47 am

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Croik and SunChaoJun pretty much summed up my feelings/thoughts about DL-6 v. SL-9. However, the real reason I prefer DL-6 over SL-9 is because of the characters. In DL-6, the whole case revolved around characters with whom the player was already familiar with and could relate to. In SL-9, they shoved a whole bunch of new characters onto you whom you had never met before, never got to know in any real depth, and, therefore, never cared about, except for Gant who just plain messed up however you look at him. (Kinda reminds me of Kirihito)

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Re: Dl6 vs SL9

Wed Jun 20, 2007 6:20 pm

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DL6, because SL9's music sucks and DL6's is awesome

Re: Dl6 vs SL9

Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:04 pm

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Raven Darkheart wrote:

mr brooks was a calm and calculated nutjob tho. was joe danke like that? i diidnt get that vibe from the info i got

With Joe Darke everything came out if panic and fear, he killed one person by acident and the witness out of fear of being blamed for murder. Then the others were just people in the worng place at the wrong time.

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Re: Dl6 vs SL9

Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:08 am

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Re: Dl6 vs SL9

Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:05 pm

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Macbeth wrote:

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I was thinking about that too...mabey it would have been killing a DA that got him the death penalty but I'm not sure with how the PW court system works. I know it's a bench trial like you would call in the US but not sure on the scales of punishment.

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Re: Dl6 vs SL9

Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:16 pm

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DL 6. SL 9 would be my second least favorite case (the dishonor of that being 2-4, yes it was dramatic, but don't forget Oldbag+Lotta Hart=Me wishing I could mass-murder videogame characters) except for two things. [strike]The Ultimate Mascot[\strike] The Blue Badger, and Phoenix Wright getting Terminator Vision (Luminol Testing. Case 1-4's trial of DL-6 revealed alot about Edgey, and was properly dramatic FOR A LAST CASE. Then we got 1-5. Then, after the happy ending promised to us in 1-4, we get 1-5, and Edgy goes emo on us because of Gant's forged evidence in SL-9. SL-9 made no sense, and Gant was bein' a dumbass. The case was great, as was the court part of it, but 1-5 (and therefore, SL-9 in my mind) was ruined by the investigation, which gave me a bad headache and dread every time the judge adjourned for a day.

Re: Dl6 vs SL9

Sat Jun 30, 2007 12:05 am

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Macbeth wrote:

However, the real reason I prefer DL-6 over SL-9 is because of the characters. In DL-6, the whole case revolved around characters with whom the player was already familiar with and could relate to. In SL-9, they shoved a whole bunch of new characters onto you whom you had never met before, never got to know in any real depth, and, therefore, never cared about, except for Gant who just plain messed up however you look at him. (Kinda reminds me of Kirihito)

Yeah, I agree. SL-9 or better say; case 1-5 had so many characters and some of them felt just added on and not done by heart like the other characters in the PW universe. I don't understand why people think the characters of SL-9 were so fascinating, IMHO. (Except for Gant.) But that's just my thoughts~

I prefer DL-6, due to my general dislike of Case 1-5. Wish I could rant, but I won't. :edgeworth:

Re: Dl6 vs SL9

Sat Jun 30, 2007 12:32 am

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Spoiler: DL-6

Spoiler: SL-9

I don't know about you, but SL-9 is kindda a bit more 'lolz' here. Although that is proably not a good thing. :P

SunChaoJun - I kind of disagree here. It is unfair to take up a case that get's added in as an afterthought, and which presence is thereby ignored through the rest of the series. If you do this, you can't take the rest of the game into account, now. It is also unfair to add how it is detailed on in TWO cases, a luxury that the SL-9 case doesn't get. You can't compare the two cases just because it so happens that it ties into the main charracters, and subsequently has more of an impact. If you do that, you should also add in

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Re: Dl6 vs SL9

Sat Jun 30, 2007 2:57 am

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Dl6 ftw

Re: Dl6 vs SL9

Sat Jun 30, 2007 4:04 am

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I love the music from both the cases...but SL9 has many more characters involved in it. DL6 has just Edgey, Manfred and Yanni (and polly lol) but none of them have their own music (unlike Gant and Marshall) and the DL6 itself really only takes about twenty minutes to unravel while SL9 takes an entire three witness courtday. I think the points go to SL9.

Re: Dl6 vs SL9

Sun Jul 08, 2007 6:57 pm

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Actually, you do prove gant murdered goodman. Goodman lost his Id, (or, more accuratley, it was stolen) The lost item report proves that. Then there's the fact that gant was in the evidence room at the time of the murder, proven through the id card records. it was also proven that is was, in fact, gants Id card via his safe combination. then there is gant's bloody hand print (he is the only character involved in the case that ALWAYS wears gloves). gant was also the only one that knew to look in the muffler for the knife (thus lana was talking to him on the cell phone. (this was when angel starr heard the word "muffler")). Also, gant was the only one who could have forced lana to take the fall.

Re: Dl6 vs SL9

Sun Jul 08, 2007 10:52 pm

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Personally I enjoyed the new game mechanics introduced in SL-9, the small plot twists and it felt a lot longer to play through than DI-6. And it was probably one of the most significant episodes that showed Edgeworth and Wright actually working together in the courtroom.

There were also some hints of foreshadowing in SL-9 that made me roll over and laugh.

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Re: Dl6 vs SL9

Wed Aug 15, 2007 8:52 pm

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Re: Dl6 vs SL9

Wed Aug 15, 2007 8:53 pm

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definitely DL-6. *plays through DL-6 and SL-9 all over again* yea, definitely.

DL-9 had a bunch of new people, but what does that matter? They were only with you for one case, thrown in just as to entertain you for about half an hour. They don't have any meaning, and this case hardly affects the story.

Now look at DL-6. It was really deep, and shows why Phoenix became a defence attorney and Edgeworth a prosecuter. Without DL-6 THERE IS NO PHOENIX WRIGHT! It has so many hints into GS3 & GS4 (their mother and Dahlia for example) It also introduced Lotta (whos with you for a few more cases yet) and gave Edgeworth a whole different meaning. oh, and don't forget :polly:

!!! It was dead funny too :gymshoe:

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Re: Dl6 vs SL9

Wed Aug 15, 2007 11:22 pm

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The DL-6 incident what one my favorites because
1. It was a prosecutor that was the bad guy and I don't mean Edgey I mean Von Karma.
2. The case made more sense than SL-9.
3. :karma:

is better at planning than :damon:

That's all. :phoenix:

Re: Dl6 vs SL9

Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:55 am

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I really liked SL-9 too, even though DL-6 had

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SL-9 had far more complex characters and Gant was one of the most polite villains I've ever seen.

DL-6 was pretty good though

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Ema annoyed me at first in Case 5. I know she's eager and enthusiastic, but her talking to Phoenix like he's a born dumbass felt odd. It was as if Phoenix was 15/16 and Ema was 24.

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Re: Dl6 vs SL9

Tue Aug 28, 2007 4:30 pm

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DL6 definitely wins in my book: deeper story, character development, the whole REASON why phoenix became a attorney, von Karma getting what he deserved, and for me, a lot more satisifing ending.

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Re: Dl6 vs SL9

Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:01 pm

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Phonics Wright wrote:

DL6, because SL9's music sucks and DL6's is awesome

Whaaaat!

I prefer DL6 too, but I thought the church organ music of Gant's theme was epic. It's probably my all-time favourite theme in the series (though perhaps Godot's takes the cake by a small margin).

Anyway, I do prefer DL-6 because it's just so much more canonical. It's the most important case ever from a story perspective. Not only is Edgeworth on trial, he also takes down von Karma, turns Edgeworth from a rival to an ally, explains the backstory of both Phoenix and Edgeworth and... there's other stuff. I think. :think:

SL-9 was absolutely spectacular from a gameplay perspective, and the Skye sisters and Gant were great, but that was all it was. It didn't have any lasting impression on me emotionally, and the whole story is just totally unimportant. Plus, the case was so elaborate that it was almost like a parody. Like it was a fan-made case, of course made by some super dedicated awesome fans, but that's the vibe I got nonetheless.

I mean, even the court mechanic is changed a bit, what with the "evidence law book"... It's just not canon. DL6 for the win!! :raygun:

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Re: Dl6 vs SL9

Wed Aug 29, 2007 12:02 am

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Lol I think I like both...
Cause DL-6 is funny because of von Karma's so-called terrible "uuuuaaarrrgh" scream, and SL-9 is just plain interesting for some reason :P :godot:

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Re: Dl6 vs SL9

Wed Aug 29, 2007 1:05 pm

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For me, DL6 is personally waaaaaaay better than SL9. Why? What Yin Yang said up there.

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so...definitely DL6.

Re: Dl6 vs SL9

Wed Aug 29, 2007 1:46 pm

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DL6 for me. Loved, loved, loved the gameplay in SL9 and got ridiculously excited about the fingerprinting and the luminol stuff. Meekins bugged the hell out of me but I didn't mind the other new characters.

But ...

As already amply covered in this thread, DL6 is the epic that the whole PW storyline hinges on. And it really was an epic. I could barely put the game down and I know my play was punctuated by out loud " NO! NO NO NO!" and "Stop confessing, damn you!" exclamations (to the amusement of my OH). I got really involved in it on an emotional level whereas I found SL-9 less gripping in that regard.

The only other case I have been quite that gripped by was 2-4, although I know a lot of folks aren't keen. I'd be hard pressed to say why but it did have the white-knuckle effect on me.

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Re: Dl6 vs SL9

Wed Aug 29, 2007 10:14 pm

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SL9 ftw.

Re: Dl6 vs SL9

Thu Aug 30, 2007 12:11 am

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For me its 1-4 by a landslide (or two) over 1-5... Honestly, 1-5 is, in my opinion, the third worst case in the series (after 1-1 and 2-1 (but I did preferred 3-1 to 1-5...), simply beccose they are way to short). Really, SL-9 is just one big mess.

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And really, not only did the case drag on and on, but figuring out what to do next was often confusing.

Sure, the characters are pretty good. :gant:

is pure brilliance :texasman:

was pretty cool, :starr:

was great and I somehow liked :meekins:

quite a bit (altought in moderation only). I didn't really cared about :ema:

much, thought, as she is mostly a :maya:

clone for me, and :lana:

is, in my opinion, one of the reason why this case is screwed up.

Well, to SL-9's merit, it did give Capcom the opportunity to develop :badger:

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Re: Dl6 vs SL9

Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:32 am

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Hmmm.. I agree.

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I understand without DL-6, there is no Phoenix Wright, soon I'll be up to that one and I can play it again.

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Re: Dl6 vs SL9

Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:36 am

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I always think of 1:4 as the case that is most likely to be adapted if the property was sold as a movie. Just because it's so pivotal and casts such a long shadow both forwards and backwards.

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Re: Dl6 vs SL9

Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:25 pm

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I'm yet another fan of DL-6. All my reasons have been stated before, but I can rehash some: it gives good backstory for Edgeworth [still a big favorite of mine], the main characters are highly tied together because of it, and...

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Re: Dl6 vs SL9

Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:07 pm

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I love the fact that DL6 is Edgey-related, but I love SL9 more. That was a more interesting case, IMO.

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Re: Dl6 vs SL9

Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:23 pm

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Mit-chan wrote:

I'm yet another fan of DL-6. All my reasons have been stated before, but I can rehash some: it gives good backstory for Edgeworth [still a big favorite of mine], the main characters are highly tied together because of it, and...

Spoiler: Greatest animation ever!

I also thought the

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Re: Dl6 vs SL9

Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:40 pm

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For me i would pick SL9 Mainly because it is a much longer case and it has people like :damon:

:Angel Starr: :Notes: and also :eh?:

feel sorry for him when he gets fired :( but also the story is better and u can do forensics :D plus love the detective from the wild west theme :D also the testimonys require you to think more compared to the ones in DL6 but dl6 was great never the less

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Re: Dl6 vs SL9

Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:31 am

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I enjoyed both of them, since they were both pretty played out, emotional, and caused people to change in personality(Lana, Edgeworth). So it's basically a tie. :gant:

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Re: Dl6 vs SL9

Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:54 am

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Personally loved both cases, each one on its way: SL9 had really good characters, from Meekins or Marshall at the funny side to Gant...

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But DL6, which was a more simple case at first time, had a much bigger impact on all the three games. Besides, it's the first case on which Edgeworth starts to seem human and not a case-winning machine. And you get to face Von Karma, which is also a point for me.

Re: Dl6 vs SL9

Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:14 am

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One thing to consider is that SL-9 was kind of a pointless case. It had no impact on what happened in later games. DL-6 is a case that tied a lot together in the world of Phoenix Wright. The case was so emotional and had a great effect on what happens in PW today. SL-9 didn't do anything. Nothing in SL-9 ties together the world of Phoenix Wright.

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Re: Dl6 vs SL9

Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:28 pm

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DL6!
*spoilers?*
SL9 was just an add-on case, added on with case 5. With SL9 there could have been so many options, so nothing really could have surprised me. In DL6 throughout the whole thing you (think you) know it could have only been Yogi or Edgeworth - so the fact the lift door actually opened and von Karma was there was just really shocking. Sure, it wasn't as complex, but SL9 means nothing to me.

But one thing that I thought of just now that confuses me...why was von Karma hanging around the court for that long? I assume the lift must have broken for a few hours.

Re: Dl6 vs SL9

Fri Sep 07, 2007 8:37 am

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But one thing that I thought of just now that confuses me...why was von Karma hanging around the court for that long? I assume the lift must have broken for a few hours.

The lights went off (that's why the lift stopped), so he couldn't see the way out and got lost into the archives. Or so he said.

Re: Dl6 vs SL9

Fri Sep 07, 2007 8:51 am

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I wouldn't deny that Gant in particular is one of the most creepy and scary characters to come out of Phoenix Wright (I can't even bring myself to read fanfic with him in because he creeps me out so much) but for me that doesn't negate the sheer dramatic impact of 1:4.

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Re: Dl6 vs SL9

Fri Sep 07, 2007 10:44 am

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axl99 wrote:

Personally I enjoyed the new game mechanics introduced in SL-9, the small plot twists and it felt a lot longer to play through than DI-6. And it was probably one of the most significant episodes that showed Edgeworth and Wright actually working together in the courtroom.

There were also some hints of foreshadowing in SL-9 that made me roll over and laugh.

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