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Half-life 2 is extremely overrated. People will tell u tehrs an amasing story that happens as u go along. There is no story it's shoot a bunch o guys, get stuck at a place for months. Kill more guys, give u on frustratingly difficult part of level. I must admit it does look very pretty and they went through a lo of effort to make it look great but it's completely undrmined by the dull gameplay and confusing layout. There are parts where u acnt go farther because u did summin wrong half an hour ago because it wasnt clear u had to do it. How they made another 2 half life 2 games amases me.

Also World of Warcraft. Dullest. Game. Ever. ALL teh clothes are EXACTKY the same but a slightly different colour. The battle system is, swing axe over and over again, click button every few minutes to do summin useless. The life system seems to have been made up by goths. Overall, you should not play this game, unless u want to waste hours of ure tiem accomplishing nothing.
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Pokémon in general. How some people even get entertained by this is beyond me. I like the catch & collect concept but there's just so much grinding even for a JRPG and there are pretty much no differences between the games whatsoever.

All MMOs, I'm going with the usual "waste of time lol" argument.

Kingdom Hearts. As if the control/camera system wasn't bad enough, there's also the retarded fanbase, the confusing story that doesn't make any sense at all and the Mary Sue characters. Not to mention the character designs, which brings us to...

Tetsuya Nomura. Belts, zippers, spiky hair and chains everywhere. I admit that he has designed a few good characters though. The characters in Brave Fencer Musashi and TWEWY are two good examples. Other than that and a few other characters like Cid Highwind and Auron, he's soooo overrated.
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I agree: Kingdom Hearts. I only played the first one, and everything but Hollow Bastion was kind of rubbish. I suppose I also enjoyed the Coliseum. But the original characters were abysmal - they had terrible, overwrought characterization and lame character designs (again agreed with the poster above :P). The fact that they were kids who had parents. Sora's parents in the beginning are one of the scariest moments I've ever witnessed in a video game: they exist, have a generic parent-like line, and then...vanish? I just remember (6 years ago, so unclear memory...) being very spooked by how short-lived they were as characters. I think the treatment of the parents is exemplary of the half-baked nature of that game and the weakness of its original characters. Also, the end dungeon...I don't even know what to say about it. What was it supposed to be? Creepy? Meaningful? Depressing? I just thought it was dumb and tried too hard to be serious in a game that shouldn't have taken itself seriously. Combine this deranged, shoddy plot with a dull battle system hampered by moronic AI, and you've got an awful game.

I probably would have forgotten about this game and just would have said "meh, it was kind of bad" except for the sequels and the screaming fans at conventions :/ Very few fandoms make me more annoyed than this one. All of them, even the often-bashed Naruto, have more merit than Kingdom Hearts.

Because it's been brought up: as much as I love Professor Layton, it's just a book of puzzles. It's not really a video game. The game parts - movement and examining - are very weak. Great, I tapped the screen all over to find a hint coin, then pressed an arrow to move. I'm only part way through Diabolical Box, but at least it's shaping up to have a more interesting plot than Curious Village. Still, the plot is not particularly gripping, and it's not why I'm playing the game at all. I do think the exploration presentation is encouraging for people who wouldn't bother if this were just a DS collection of puzzles, but I can't put my finger on why.
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Torchlight. It's been this big craze on Steam for a while, and someone gifted it to me for the Steam sale. I tried it out and can't quite see the appeal. Combat is super-fast-paced, so even though you get complex abilities involving selecting a target or strategic use of X ability at Y time, the fastest and most efficient way to clear a room is just click on everything that moves until it's dead. I've been playing for a little over an hour and found very little variety, even in the level design.

And as much of a niche game as it is, Hotel Dusk. I played all the way through the game and admittedly was intrigued by some of the innovative puzzles. But despite all the complex plot and intricate web of connections between the characters, what did it amount to when you found (the macguffin letter) and figured everything out?
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Because it's been brought up: as much as I love Professor Layton, it's just a book of puzzles. It's not really a video game. The game parts - movement and examining - are very weak. Great, I tapped the screen all over to find a hint coin, then pressed an arrow to move. I'm only part way through Diabolical Box, but at least it's shaping up to have a more interesting plot than Curious Village. Still, the plot is not particularly gripping, and it's not why I'm playing the game at all. I do think the exploration presentation is encouraging for people who wouldn't bother if this were just a DS collection of puzzles, but I can't put my finger on why.

I'm just going to say that I view the puzzle aspect and the story aspect completely separate when playing PL. I see it as a nice little story and a book of riddles for me to alternate between at a nice pace. So while it would be nice, but very short, if you just did the regular gameplay, and wouldn't have much appeal as just a puzzlebook on the DS, together they come together into something that is fine.


@Katana and HD: Well, that happens over the climax, but you did figure out people's problems and help them come to terms with their past and positions and stuff. That counts for something, doesn't it? So although you don't resolve the conflict in the most obvious way (finding Bradley) it's not like the night ends like it began. Besides, HD isn't that big--where was Bradley (or any of the other missing people) supposed to be hiding? Under Hyde's bed? It would have been too forced if they just showed up out of nowhere, or turned out to be there all along but didn't say anything, or whatever.
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I think Final Fantasy in general is overrated. It's just an RPG, and there's hardly anything special about it. Then again, I'm not really much of a fan of turn-based games, besides Pokemon.


...In my opinion, the Disgaea series are much better... and underrated. :sadshoe:



Also, I think Mario is the most overrated game series I've ever heard of. Seriously, what's so fun about jumping on heads? And heads only? Sonic can do that and much more...
The only Mario game I've enjoyed was Super Mario Galaxy. :yuusaku:
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@Katana and HD: Well, that happens over the climax, but you did figure out people's problems and help them come to terms with their past and positions and stuff. That counts for something, doesn't it? So although you don't resolve the conflict in the most obvious way (finding Bradley) it's not like the night ends like it began. Besides, HD isn't that big--where was Bradley (or any of the other missing people) supposed to be hiding? Under Hyde's bed? It would have been too forced if they just showed up out of nowhere, or turned out to be there all along but didn't say anything, or whatever.

I agree that with the existing setup there couldn't really be a good final climax that still made sense. But that doesn't really excuse them from it; a writer always needs to be thinking about what is working towards his climactic, thrilling ending. It doesn't have to involve a car chase and could have been in the basement of the hotel.
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I've one word for you: Sequel. What happened in HD1 might be crucial to Hotel Dusk 2's plot. Or maybe not. Whatever.

New Super Mario Bros. Wii is overrated, it's hyped up to a lot more than it really is. Sure, they added a few new levels and you can play as Toads, but it's the same ol' mario. The only reason why it's so popular is because there was really nothing better out for the Wii during the holiday season. To be honest, I'm getting a bit sick of this type of Mario. Guess I'll just wait for Mario Galaxy 2...
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Kingdom Hearts. As if the control/camera system wasn't bad enough, there's also the retarded fanbase, the confusing story that doesn't make any sense at all and the Mary Sue characters.


THIIIIIIS. The fanbase hyped it up so bad, I don't get why it's "omg the best game ever". What's worse is that I gave into it at one point. When I actually played it though, I thought it was somewhat interesting....untill I got sick of it halfway through.
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^ Glad I'm not the only one then. n_n PS2 has many great games, so why do people like KH so much?

Oh, I also dislike N64, that console had like 10 games worth playing and yet I hear people praise it as one of the best consoles evar all the time. PS1 had lots of games that could kick Ocarina of Time's arse any day. Final Fantasy VII-IX + Tactics, Xenogears, Brave Fencer Musashi, Metal Gear Solid, Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, Tekken, Silent Hill, Oddworld, The Granstream Saga, Vagrant Story and Gran Turismo to name a few.
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^ Glad I'm not the only one then. n_n PS2 has many great games, so why do people like KH so much?

Oh, I also dislike N64, that console had like 10 games worth playing and yet I hear people praise it as one of the best consoles evar all the time. PS1 had lots of games that could kick Ocarina of Time's arse any day. Final Fantasy VII-IX + Tactics, Xenogears, Brave Fencer Musashi, Metal Gear Solid, Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, Tekken, Silent Hill, Oddworld, The Granstream Saga, Vagrant Story and Gran Turismo to name a few.


Because just like anything it comes down to a matter of individual taste? Not everyone has to hate it OR love it just the way the world is.
Personally I like the characters and combat system. Also a big fan of my inner child when it comes to the Disney parts.

And Ocarina of Time I'd say is more revered for what it introduced into 3D platformers.
Besides I find that Zelda games tend to be for certain fans.

Also to be fair some of the games you suggested that were better than it are THE BEST the PS1 has to offer.
There's plenty worse than Ocarina.
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^ OoT is in no way a platformer... Maybe it was a typo of yours. And that was just an example anyway.

Pretty much the only notable third-party company that helped Nintendo during the N64 era was Rareware, and I find most of their games to be pretty crap.
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^ OoT is in no way a platformer... Maybe it was a typo of yours. And that was just an example anyway.

Pretty much the only notable third-party company that helped Nintendo during the N64 era was Rareware, and I find most of their games to be pretty crap.


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Duclis wrote:
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Kingdom Hearts. As if the control/camera system wasn't bad enough, there's also the retarded fanbase, the confusing story that doesn't make any sense at all and the Mary Sue characters.


THIIIIIIS. The fanbase hyped it up so bad, I don't get why it's "omg the best game ever". What's worse is that I gave into it at one point. When I actually played it though, I thought it was somewhat interesting....untill I got sick of it halfway through.


Kingdom Hearts is a good game, but definitely not the best... :yuusaku:
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@ Pierre: Ah, heh. Don't worry. C:

I used to like Kingdom Hearts, but looking back it was quite horrible.
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Pairings.

Why? Because they disrupt the social fabric of communities that were once united on the excellent storylines of PW. When pairings are introduced, the strong set divides into smaller factions, each vying for superiority. This is unacceptable.
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^ I have no problems with shippers but the flamewars between them are just retarded. People who send requests to their favourite game/anime/book/whatever company and request that their OTP should be canon are also very facepalm-worthy.
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This makes me glad I'm one of those shippers who don't give a fuck

I never liked TWEWY, back on topic. I never had a reason why, I heard of it from here and when I played it I just didn't see the "awesomeness" a lot of other uses saw in it.

I also want to say Twilight Princess, but that's also only because that was another thing I gave into the hype of. It doesn't have much to do with the game ITSELF.
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TWEWY's pretty good in my book. n_n

I actually liked Twilight Princess more than Ocarina of Time. The Wind Waker is still my favourite though, followed by A Link to the Past.
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Stole the words right from my mouth.

And Kingdom Hearts; I had a mild obsession with it, but it diminished as quickly as it came. The game, seeing it now, is just plain okay. Nothing more or less.

TWEWY was amazing. The gameplay was just difficult enough to challenge me, so it was a pretty good game. Maybe I just like people like Neku.

Soul Caliber III. I heard that if I should get a fighting game, it should be that. I wasn't too enthused when I played it, and more along the lines of disappointed. Now I wonder what I should have gotten instead.
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Fallout 3. I really couldnt get into it, and the game itself is so full of bugs and glitches it makes me want to put my foot through the TV screen.

I'm wasn't too thrilled with Silent Hill Homecoming either, despite being completely obsessed with liking the earlier ones.
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