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Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:15 am

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Some how this excites me less than gravy and I hate gravy.

Something about it seems wholly boring and lacking something from what I've seen. I also do not like what I've seen of the lead male bloke. All flashy flash I guess...

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Tue Dec 22, 2009 2:16 am

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And it also reminded me of when the Europeans first came to North America, as well.

Throughout the entire movie I thought, "Native Americans vs. Pioneers".

The plot was passable but the "SHOLY HIT" 3-D effects - despite how sparse they were - were mind-boggling. The final battle was sick, more epic than anything Cameron has done so far but the protagonist and his love interest? Pretty awkward albeit handled appropriately. Other criticisms include some unconvincing mourning and aggression emotions from the Na'vi. Basically, for everything this movie does well it makes a mess somewhere else but both the good and bad are few and far between, like Titanic, making this a very good Christmas blockbuster that will definitely appeal to the popular crowd, more or less.

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Tue Dec 22, 2009 5:24 am

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The plot was really cliché... Disney's Tarzan and Pocahontas both came to mind, as well episode 35 of Stargate SG-1.

There were also several CG effects throughout the film that seemed illogical or could have been rendered better.

Otherwise it was rather captivating and I mostly agree with Bear. I wouldn't really care to own a copy of the movie, though.

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Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:09 pm

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If you don't like to be hyped, don't read this.

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Re: Who is psyched for Avatar?

Tue Dec 22, 2009 10:07 pm

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The only reason I would go to see this movie would be to see what the hype is about. Literally everyone in my school is saying that is looks so awesome but I'm just not that interested in it. Maybe I'll rent it when it comes out on DVD

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Wed Dec 23, 2009 3:05 am

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SD-Rim_6 wrote:

The only reason I would go to see this movie would be to see what the hype is about. Literally everyone in my school is saying that is looks so awesome but I'm just not that interested in it. Maybe I'll rent it when it comes out on DVD

But half of the film is experiencing it in a theater with glasses that project astonishingly convincing 3-D images.

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Wed Dec 23, 2009 3:26 am

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SD-Rim_6 wrote:

The only reason I would go to see this movie would be to see what the hype is about. Literally everyone in my school is saying that is looks so awesome but I'm just not that interested in it. Maybe I'll rent it when it comes out on DVD

Don't forget the "Shrek Forever After" trailer...!

I hope it's better than the 3rd.

Anyway, Ping', if I get lucky, I might do just that. I love having an IMAX theatre close.

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Thu Dec 24, 2009 7:51 pm

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My mom and dad both saw it yesterday and they thought the plot was amazing, and that the SD elements actually added a lot. I generally trust their judgement. I want to go see it even more now.

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Sun Dec 27, 2009 4:12 am

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Saw Avatar in 3D IMAX last night.

The plot was cliche, however the visuals were freakin' EYE PORN <33

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Sun Dec 27, 2009 5:01 am

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Let's clear something up; there is a difference between cliche and conventional. Avatar's plot is the latter, not the former. Conventional is "the hero comes to an epiphany before an epic battle ensues"; cliche is "the villain's monologuing allows the hero to pwn his ass". Avatar follows a strict series events leading up to a climax before settling into a denouement that satisfyingly concludes the story. Cliche is used more to reference the events that occur within the overall frame.

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Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:01 am

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It was like Pocohontas + Ferngully with a splash of Dinotopia. And space.

BUT IT WAS AMAZING

I never thought I could be so blown away by visuals that a slightly substandard plot could be forgiven but WOW. And anyway despite the fact that I felt like I knew this story inside and out, I still got into it and enjoyed it. And it all felt so real and the 3D was so subtle but so effective.

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Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:26 am

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Everyone keeps criticizing the "cliche", simple plot, but Star Wars is at least as simple and "cliche". That doesn't stop it from being among the greatest films ever made. Like Star Wars's, Avatar's story is universal and understandable by everyone. Like Star Wars (or, to name other examples, Indiana Jones or King Kong), Avatar is impeccably paced, with one memorable scene after the other. Most importantly, it is the quintessential escapist adventure, a dreamlike journey that instantly makes you forget about all your troubles in the real world. Plus, contrary to other films of the same kind, Avatar pretty much describes things that actually happened in real history. It does so metaphorically, sure, but quite accurately.

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Sat Jan 02, 2010 4:04 pm

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The reason I mention the plot is that I could predict every single turn of the plot before it happened. There weren't any surprises or twists, it felt like this was a story I knew front to back and could basically say the lines along with the characters.

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But the point I was making is that I didn't mind. It was still done so well that the insanely predictable plot almost FELT unpredictable because what I was seeing and the way I was seeing it was so incredible and different from anything that existed before.

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Sat Jan 02, 2010 7:23 pm

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And a plot doesn't have to be unpredictable to be good. Honestly, some plots fail because of how unpredictable they are. You should be able to predict at least some of what will happen in any plot if you know enough about how plots work. If a plot is completely unpredictable it's because they didn't set anything up enough, which just makes it annoying.

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Sat Jan 02, 2010 7:40 pm

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I saw it a few days ago just because I heard nothing but praise. It was better than I expected and I thought the special effects were nothing short of awe-inspiring. I found thought that it was to long and I was kind of bored near the end of the final battle. I wouldn't say it was the greatest movie I ever saw but I thought it was pretty good overall.

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Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:12 am

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I saw it over the break, and I believe it was worth seeing. The visual effects were nothing short of fabulous. I also recall being reminded of the Command and Conquer games upon seeing the humans' technology--particularly their aircraft. I'll admit, though, that there were some scenes that I thought were more drawn-out than necessary.

The plot was great, although it's been done before. As the story developed, I saw several connections to

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Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:41 am

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Finally saw it to day. The visuals were awe-inspiring. It's true that the story wasn't particularly original, but I think that a simple story was necessary to be able to focus on the beautiful world creation. Overall, I think it was a great movie and I look forward to the inevitable sequals.

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Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:45 am

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Meh.
My brother forced me to take him to see it, and to be honest, I wasn't interested. :lana:

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Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:00 am

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Well, I just went to watch it with a friend, and it was better than i thought it would be. Usually I hate really popular movies, but this one was okay. The first thing i said after the movie was

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Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:34 pm

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I saw it yesterday, in 3D. The damn glasses were dirty, but I enjoyed it nevertheless. Just had to tilt my head a bit down.

Anyway, visually, it was exceptional. They could have easily put a camera in another planet, the Na'vis can't be CGI. Seriously, when I first saw a trailer for Avatar, I thought the Na'vis were painted and disguised up actors, but then I realized how tall they were.

At first I thought the plot would be a complete cliché and obvious... And the outcome was. But the whole story of Eyma and Pandora's biodiversity... Really well thought out. If it weren't for that, it would have been a copy-pasted plot.

All in all, I really liked it. Visually, as I said, I was stunned; and the plot was enjoyable.

BTW, the "final battle" was probably one of the most epic scenes I've ever seen in a movie, with the implied deus ex machina, of course. Very well done.

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Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:04 pm

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My reaction to this movie.

BOOM!! KERBLOOM!! SKREEE!! KABOOOM!!! BOMB!!!!

Needles to say I like big booms.....

Plot was okay in all views and the special effects were good enough for me to see it a second time...Expect the second time had a horrid trailer....

PIRANHAS IN 3D!!!!!!!

Or something to that effect...The Prof. from back to the future is in it! I think....

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Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:17 am

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Oh my god that is the BEST MOVIE EVER! (except for the matrix)
I saw it in 3D.

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Mon Feb 08, 2010 7:19 am

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Visuals were cool, story was shit, pretty much as expected. 3D bothered me because it's the kind of movie you want to sit back at and watch entertained while all the nonsense flows over you, but the 3D forces you to watch intensely.

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Mon Feb 08, 2010 7:30 am

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I went to watch it a couple weeks ago with my dad and we watched it in 3-D. I have to admit, the plot was pretty predictable, but I didn't take it as a bad thing. It seemed obvious to me that the director was trying to make this into a classic by taking some simple tropes and putting them together (if anything, it made my history class that week about pushing the native americans off their land much more interesting to imagine).

However, the graphics. WOW. I was blown away. There's so much eye candy that it seems as though someone sent this movie in from the future. The first half-hour, I was thinking, "PSH, this is all a dream. A really geeky one." I'm a big sucker for good graphics, so I'm pretty biased towards loving this movie and because of it, I can't convince my friend to go watch it. It took enough goading to get her to watch Dark Knight, so I'll see how this goes. <_<

Overall, predictable but enjoyable story, drool-worthy graphics, and--- what the hell, why is it that the characters I start liking are the ones that die? Maybe I should be getting used to this... ._.

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Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:09 pm

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Ack, I don't really like Avatar. The visuals were stunning, of course, but that doesn't make a movie. It might as well have been a documentary on what a Parallel Earth could've been like, and if it was I would've liked it so much more. Most of the characters annoyed me, especially Jake

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Another thing that really got on my nerves was how everything on Pandora was exactly the same as everything on Earth, only blue and with more legs. THAT'S NOT HOW SCIENCE WORKS. I appreciate that the visuals need a base, but you are not going to find an alien planet with blue people that look like us riding on blue animals that look like our animals through a green rainforest that looks like our (admittedly deteriorating) green rainforests. As well as dragons that look like they were ripped straight out of Walking With Beasts. It has crossed my mind that the Na'vi are as humanoid as they are to prevent it from being too gross when Jake inevitably sleeps with one of them, but still. Yeuch.

So, as I've said, outstanding visuals. Now if it had a decent, original plot it might've been better as a movie.

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Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:56 pm

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Another thing that really got on my nerves was how everything on Pandora was exactly the same as everything on Earth, only blue and with more legs. THAT'S NOT HOW SCIENCE WORKS. I appreciate that the visuals need a base, but you are not going to find an alien planet with blue people that look like us riding on blue animals that look like our animals through a green rainforest that looks like our (admittedly deteriorating) green rainforests. As well as dragons that look like they were ripped straight out of Walking With Beasts. It has crossed my mind that the Na'vi are as humanoid as they are to prevent it from being too gross when Jake inevitably sleeps with one of them, but still. Yeuch.

It's a sci-fi, Avatar isn't the first time an Earth-like world has been "discovered" as a location for basing a work of fiction on.

And to be even more pedantic:

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THAT'S NOT HOW SCIENCE WORKS.

You are correct, except science has jack shit to do with the movie's location. =/

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Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:23 pm

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Are you really complaining about an unrealistic concept in a science fiction movie? Really?

This is even more misplaced than it would generally because the biology in the movie is actually extremely consistent and accurate. An enormous amount of thought and care went into crafting the workings of Pandora's ecosystem. My roommate has a book that's written as if it was made by one of the scientists on the planet. I've only skimmed it, but it looks really interesting. As a biology student myself I'm looking forward to getting a chance to read it.

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Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:34 pm

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I know I saw this movie before Christmas, but I was too lazy to find this thread. XD

Anyway, Avatar was OK. I went to see it with my friends, and I liked it up until everyone all started fighting. That part went on way too long, especially when I was dying for the movie to end so I could buy a CD next door, and go to the toilet. =/

Yeah, the story was overdone, but I didn't mind, and as for the special effects, well, I wasn't blown away, let's just put it like that.

Anyway, it was alright. I mean, I thought one of the ads at the start of the film was better than the thing itself, so yeah. (But then that ad was great. XD) I definitely couldn't be bothered buying this when it comes out on DVD, since I already got ripped off going to the cinema.

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Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:37 pm

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P!ATD wrote:

Anyway, it was alright. I mean, I thought one of the ads at the start of the film was better than the thing itself, so yeah. (But then that ad was great. XD)

If it's the ad I think it is, then that was great :P and made me thirsty, which sucked because I had no money left for drinks, and had just had some popcorn XD

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Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:44 pm

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The Club Orange ad with the dolls? XD

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Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:46 pm

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Nah, not the one I'm thinking of then. The one I was thinking of wa s amorgan's spiced one, with the glass smashign and floating about out of the screen with drops of the rum floating about and sparkling too. It was awesome.

Film wasn't too bad. Was fairly average, with the focus on CGI, as is quite common among the dsummer blockbusters, except this was released in winter.

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Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:28 am

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Regy Rusty wrote:

Are you really complaining about an unrealistic concept in a science fiction movie? Really?

This is even more misplaced than it would generally because the biology in the movie is actually extremely consistent and accurate.

yeah uh

no

I wouldn't mind it so much if they didn't expect us to believe that it was all SUPERSCIENTIFIC THINGS THAT COULD REALLY HAPPEN

which it could clearly not

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Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:45 pm

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Like Tinker said, it what made it annoying was when how the movie was all LOOK AT HOW SCIENTIFIC WE ARE. If it'd just said "It's magic, deal with it" I would probably have accepted it =P

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Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:40 pm

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But the science behind it makes it wonderful! I like reading about the intricacies of Pandora's ecosystem and the fact that they actually put thought into it instead of just putting a bunch of pretty lights on a screen.

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Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:17 am

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Regy Rusty wrote:

But the science behind it makes it wonderful! I like reading about the intricacies of Pandora's ecosystem and the fact that they actually put thought into it instead of just putting a bunch of pretty lights on a screen.

Adding on to this, it's a lot more captivating than saying "A WIZARD DID IT" and just moving on.

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Wed Feb 10, 2010 1:14 pm

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Regy Rusty wrote:

It was like Pocohontas + Ferngully with a splash of Dinotopia. And space.

BUT IT WAS AMAZING

I never thought I could be so blown away by visuals that a slightly substandard plot could be forgiven but WOW. And anyway despite the fact that I felt like I knew this story inside and out, I still got into it and enjoyed it. And it all felt so real and the 3D was so subtle but so effective.

Excellent.

Fun fact: A friend of mine calls it "Pocohontas, the Smurf Edition", and my mom's friend calls it "Ferngully, the expensive edition". Made doubly hilarious by the fact that I've seen both of these movies, and I can't argue with either point.

To be honest though, the plot was rather poor.

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Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:50 pm

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Mr. Bear Jew wrote:

Regy Rusty wrote:

But the science behind it makes it wonderful! I like reading about the intricacies of Pandora's ecosystem and the fact that they actually put thought into it instead of just putting a bunch of pretty lights on a screen.

Adding on to this, it's a lot more captivating than saying "A WIZARD DID IT" and just moving on.

But that's exactly my point! Exactly how iffy the science is varies depending on your viewpoint, but if Pandora's ecosystem was so intricate and detailed you'd think they'd come up with something more inventive than what's basically a parallel earth. If a wizard had done it I wouldn't really have questioned any of it. As it is now, it just really bugged me throughout the movie.

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Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:13 pm

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Well, I can't argue with a person who is bothered by a completely fictitious ecosystem and how it functions so

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Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:42 pm

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Regy Rusty wrote:

the biology in the movie is actually extremely consistent and accurate.

Really? You think so? Blue-fleshed aliens in a lush green forest doesn't seem logical to me. Their colour isn't used for attracting mates (seeing as both the males and females of the species have the same hue), nor is it used for camoflauge considering their environment. I'd think they'd be easily targetted by predators.

Also, if I remember correctly, I saw red blood coming out of one of them (possibly Neytiri or Tsu'tey). Since blue is a primary colour, a mixture of red and another colour wouldn't give the appearance of blue flesh. Wouldn't red blood cause their flesh to appear more purple (assuming their skin is, in fact, blue)?

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Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:45 am

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Well the name of the Na'ai (I think) Almost ruined it because I misheard it as 'Navi' and I immedietley thought of
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