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My guess is that Kyouya will be the main prosecutor throughout the Odoroki series, unless Capcom finds some way to put him in the defendant's chair or replaces him with another prosecutor.


I kinda hope for a new prosecutor. I mean, so much shit went down with Kyouya in this game--he lost his best friend and lost his brother, uh, twice...kinda--that it's hard to imagine what else they could do with him, or what might break him out of his shell. A meteor lands on his girlfriend? He loses his voice and can't sing any more? Limb cut off in an industrial accident? "Prosecutor Garyuu chooses death"? I can't imagine that he won't have a huge part to play, I'm just not sure what it could be if he's the main prosecutor again this time around.
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I'm thinking he'll be around, but not as the prosecutor. He may even help poor little :odoroki: along the way to whatever he does.
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Well if he is the new Edgeworth we'll be seeing more of him.
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Spoiler: GS4 caseend spoilers
Perhaps the loss of Daian will result in Garyuu's band splitting up. Disheartened by the loss of his band and his brother, Garyuu will perhaps try a solo career...maybe with a different genre of music and a different appearence to match. As a show of gratitude to Nick, he would become a client of the Naruhodo Talent Agency, which would keep Odoroki well-connected to him. Then, of course, there would be a murder (or maybe a theft) that would be the center of one of the later cases, be it three, four or five. Perhaps a previously unknown member of Kyouya's old band would kill a bystander while trying to destroy the G-guy himself or something...

Of course, my opinion isn't that much better than many of yours. :garyuu:

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Well if the creator or head writer of the Phoenix Wright GS series had a choice would you still play this game if he did this for example...

GS4 Major Case 1 and 4 Spoilers

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The first case opens up with a body lying motionless on the floor on closer inspection it is none other then Phoenix Wright! However the passage of time is cruel and Nick is reduced to :hobohodo: status a mere shell of the man that he once was. The victim Kagerou Urafushi now becomes the defendant and is accused of murder the witness Masaka is willing to testify to the defendant's guilt.

This is :odoroki: first murder case taking on by the suggestion of :garyuu: who says that he knew that victim Phoenix Wright and wanted to find the truth on what happened on his behalf. This goes by if garyuu wanted to kill phoenix because he didn't want him meeting with an old client and exposing the truth about what happen seven years ago in that case.

As the trial goes on Kagerou Urafushi ends up getting framed by garyuu the trial ends on a bitter note and odoroki can't help but feel like there was some important fact that he overlooked keep in mind that there was never an ace in the bottle and a forge one garyuu doesn't get exposed as a murderer.

In case 4 :minuki: finds the mason system a project that phoenix wright was working on for seven years it was a court record of all the evidence both new and old that he found for that case back then. Minuki gives the system to odoroki who after reading through the file has a hard time believing that garyuu is not the person that he thinks he is.

A message is left by Phoenix at the end of the file.


:hobohodo: "If you are reading this, then things didn't turn out how I wanted them to, as hard as it is to believe, everything that happened started from that one case that I took seven years ago. I will admit that back then I should have examined the evidence that I received harder, but that's in the past, what's more important is what you will do now."

"As someone once said to me the truth can sometimes result in tragedy but it's an even greater crime if we advert our eyes from it."

"I'm leaving the rest up to you."



Now if GS4 had went something like that then I would be pretty mad if they did kill Phoenix off but if case 4 ended up in a moral crisis with :odoroki: should he confront :garyuu: : the man who taught him what it meant to be a lawyer and find out what it really means to be a defense attorney no matter where the ugly truth shall lead him. (Sorry for the GS2 case 4 reused idea.)

In the end when odoroki wins he reflects that he is now out of a job with garyuu behind bars and wonders what will happen to him now that his career as a lawyer is in doubt and and that is when minuki shows up.

:minuki: says that the Mason system wasn't the only thing that Phoenix Wright had left behind and shows odoroki a deed that leaves the Wright and CO law offices to him even though it was formally garyuu who took it over.

Phoenix said that he had a feeling that odoroki would be needing a place of his own and has left his old law firm in his hands. Deep down he believed that odoroki would do the right thing and said for minuki to take care of him.


:odoroki: "I can't believe this!!"

:minuki: "Obviously you still have a lot to learn that's no way to end a sentence!"

:minuki: *smirks* "Ready?"



:minuki: 1....

:minuki: 2....

:minuki: 3....



:odoroki: :objection:



Yeah I know my version of GS4 case one and four was too messed up but in the end maybe it's a better way for a new defense attorney to carry on Phoenix Wright's legacy and at the same time go deeper into :odoroki: past maybe he has a vague connection with the Fey family and his mother is Misty Fey or at least related to her. They never did explain what happen to her after the SL-9 case I believe just they said that she just vanished.

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go deeper into :odoroki: past maybe he has a vague connection with the Fey family and his mother is Misty Fey or at least related to her. They never did explain what happen to her after the SL-9 case I believe just they said that she just vanished.


major GS3 spoiler
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didn't they explain what happened to her in GS3 ??
as far as I know she was the victim in GS3-5
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Oh well, that shot my theory to pieces :sadshoe: honestly I have no ideal on how to proceed with the new characters and still manage to keep it interesting maybe if the writer had more freedom to write the script to how he wants it even if it means killing off a main character like phoenix or edgeworth ( hey I heard a rumor a while back that somewhere in GS4 it was mention that a genius was killed and it kind of reminded me of :edgeworth: it's probably baseless though.)

For some reason I picture :minuki: as the one that's most likely to follow in Phoenix Wright's shoes and become a defense attorney.
Maybe that's just me though.
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well your idea wasn't actually bad
but I think it would fit better on a new defense attorney
I always imagine a female one and her mother would be related to
Misty Fey like a long lost younger sister
but that's me wanting to bring maya back :sadshoe:
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go deeper into :odoroki: past maybe he has a vague connection with the Fey family and his mother is Misty Fey or at least related to her. They never did explain what happen to her after the SL-9 case I believe just they said that she just vanished.


major GS3 spoiler
Spoiler:
didn't they explain what happened to her in GS3 ??
as far as I know she was the victim in GS3-5

Not to mention that, you know,
Spoiler: GS4
Lamiroir/Yuumi is Odoroki's mother.
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Not to mention that, you know,
Spoiler: GS4
Lamiroir/Yuumi is Odoroki's mother.

How about having
Spoiler: GS4
Lamiror/Yummi aka Odorkoi and Minukis mum
being related to the Fey family,
Then we could see more spirit channeling,
Spirit channeling was kl!
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Odorkoi? As in, a smelly japanese carp?
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How about having
Spoiler: GS4
Lamiror/Yummi aka Odorkoi and Minukis mum
being related to the Fey family,
Then we could see more spirit channeling,
Spirit channeling was kl!


Nah, we have the Minuku system and the Arumajiki. The Arumajiki family will doubtless be the new Fey family of the series.
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DarzieP wrote:
ultrasaint4121 wrote:
How about having
Spoiler: GS4
Lamiror/Yummi aka Odorkoi and Minukis mum
being related to the Fey family,
Then we could see more spirit channeling,
Spirit channeling was kl!


Nah, we have the Minuku system and the Arumajiki. The Arumajiki family will doubtless be the new Fey family of the series.

damn...
i liked talking to the dead peoples,
also,
with spirit channeling you can kill off main characters, however,
you can still talk to them.

I wonder if Minuki can resurrect people...
hmm.
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I think for the most part all Minuki can do that's not stage magic is her SPECIALPOWERLOL.
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still can't he be related to the fey from his father's side ? I know
that the fey are all females but there's no other way ( the idea just came out of my mind )
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No, coz that would be all degrees of assblow. Only the females of the Fey clan get powers, not the males. There's no way Odoroki would have like OMGCHANNELLINGPOWERS etc with that. I want it be Odo's story instead of making it the lovechild of Phoenix's and Odo's.

Spoiler: Odoroki's Father.
I'm strongly of the opinion that Varan is Odoroki's father. I'd say said man was a performer so Varan is the likely choice. Not to mention that whole passionate heart burning red thing. Could that cheesy tagline be a cryptic clue to Odoroki's father? After all Varan is the heart in the Arumajiki troupe.


Course this is all speculation.
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he doesn't need to have the channeling abilities just related to
them to bring the fey back to the story
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But why would you want them back? It's more or less sorted in TaT. Not that I'd mind seeing Maya or Pearl again, but still nothing added to the plot. Just appeasing the fans, that's it.
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well to bring bring :maya: and :pearl: don't they need to focus the story
back to :hobohodo: while they were supposed to be focused on :odoroki:'s story
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I mean cameo's duh. A reference.
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why not ??
I still cant believe :maya: wasn't in GS4
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in the case where you play as :phoenix:
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erm,
murder at Kurain village Part 2!
Maya is killed and pearl is accused
or the other way around!
amazing,
and Odoroki can still take the case...
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But if Pearl or Maya is killed there'll be a bigger fiasco than Snape and Dumbledore. YTMND LOL.
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But if Pearl or Maya is killed there'll be a bigger fiasco than Snape and Dumbledore. YTMND LOL.

i suppose,
but
it is a way of including them in the game,
by killing them....
oooh
and morgan fey comes out of solitary
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that would still have a story focused on :hobohodo: too
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I actually hope we don't have anything too Fey-related in the next few games. Seeing Maya and/or Pearl would be one thing (especially Pearl all grown up. That'd be cute). But relating Odoroki to the Feys when there's already so much mystery surrounding his family line would be a cheap cop-out, in my opinion.

Besides, Spirit Channeling was never really well used in the first three games, anyway. Its only real purpose was to keep Mia around, which they could have done by just keeping her alive. But other than their "find Maya" strategy in 2-4, and the summoning mess in 3-5, the Fey channeling powers were completely underutilized. (btw, not talking about Psyche Locks - just the channeling powers themselves).

But the Arumajiki bracelets have a power that can potentially be used all the time. Maybe you'll start being able to Minuku people out in the field. Maybe it'll develop even more powers. It's an oppertunity for new, interesting mechanics, and I hope they capitalize on that instead of Fey power.

As for Odoroki's daddy, after playing through the Mason System again, this is everything I remember:

Spoiler: "Odo's Papa"
I believe it was Zakku who explained that Yuumi's first husband was a traveling performer, who appeared once with the Arumajiki Troupe. But afterwards, Yuumi left the Troupe to go off with him. Zakku was already a member at the time, since he's the one that took the picture of her before she left (the one Hamigaki later has). But a year later Yuumi's husband was killed on stage, and when Yuumi returned to the Arumajiki she was one bracelet short. Zakku didn't know at the time, but she'd given birth to Odoroki, and presumably left him and one of her bracelets somewhere.

Maybe Yuumi knew, as Phoenix found later, that the Arumajiki and the power of their bracelets were dangerous, and that's why she left her only son? Did a member of the Troupe kill her husband to get her back? If Varan is Odoroki's father, did he fake his death on stage, only to re-enter the Arumajiki troupe in disguise, and then lose Yuumi again to Zakku and DEATH? Did either of them shoot Yuumi or was it someone else entirely!?

Or was it someone else? Did the Arumajiki assassinate Yuumi's first husband, except, he didn't die, instead coming back to shoot Yuumi in revenge and set up the entire Troupe for failure!?!?


I gotta stop speculating. :meekins:
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Spoiler:
yuumi didnt leave :minuki: ( as far as I understand it )
then I don't think that's why she left her son
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Ruby4ever wrote:
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yuumi didnt leave :minuki: ( as far as I understand it )
then I don't think that's why she left her son


She kinda died? :yuusaku:
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...For GS5, I want the tables to turn and that Odoroki becomes one of the cases' villain.

Or Edgeworth coming out of nowhere with Interpol agents accusing Odoroki and Kyouya of allegedly ruining
Spoiler: lol speculation, related to GS4-3
a covert operation Daian was in charge of
or something...


I want something downright crazy to happen in GS5.
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I believe Croik is right with her speculation. Also I kinda hope we get 5 cases in GS5, to stick with the pattern (odd games have 5 evens have 4).

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I assume Morgan Fey will show up, recently released from prison, with Koyume working as her maid. Perhaps she will extract revenge again.
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Croik wrote:
Spoiler: "Odo's Papa"
I believe it was Zakku who explained that Yuumi's first husband was a traveling performer, who appeared once with the Arumajiki Troupe. But afterwards, Yuumi left the Troupe to go off with him. Zakku was already a member at the time, since he's the one that took the picture of her before she left (the one Hamigaki later has). But a year later Yuumi's husband was killed on stage, and when Yuumi returned to the Arumajiki she was one bracelet short. Zakku didn't know at the time, but she'd given birth to Odoroki, and presumably left him and one of her bracelets somewhere.

Maybe Yuumi knew, as Phoenix found later, that the Arumajiki and the power of their bracelets were dangerous, and that's why she left her only son? Did a member of the Troupe kill her husband to get her back? If Varan is Odoroki's father, did he fake his death on stage, only to re-enter the Arumajiki troupe in disguise, and then lose Yuumi again to Zakku and DEATH? Did either of them shoot Yuumi or was it someone else entirely!?

Or was it someone else? Did the Arumajiki assassinate Yuumi's first husband, except, he didn't die, instead coming back to shoot Yuumi in revenge and set up the entire Troupe for failure!?!?


I gotta stop speculating. :meekins:

Spoiler:
Something seems off there, though. So what happened to Odoroki in those years(his childhood and adolescence) between father's death (and consequently Yuumi's abandonment of Odoroki) and his becoming a lawyer? How did he even land in Garyuu's office anyway? Something like http://www.kasouken.com/comic/gacomic0184.jpg, perhaps?

...Probably not, but it's still an unanswered question.

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>.< I know that

Either way I do think Odoroki's father will be revealed in either GS5 or GS6 if capcom wishes to continue using Odoroki as the main character.
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There doesn't necessarily have to be any mystery surrounding how Odoroki ended up in Garyuu's firm. Maybe it's as simple as he took an interest in law, did very well in school, and applied for a job working for the best defense lawyer in the city. He's obviously a hard worker with great potential. I don't see why Garyuu *wouldn't* want to hire him.

Orrrr maybe Kirihito has more to do with his familiy than we thought :O. I'm still a little miffed that we didn't get to see those Psyche Locks of his break. Maybe we haven't seen the last of him...!?
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Of course! Kirihito killed his father, NO WAIT HE IS HIS FATHER! NUUUUUUUUUUUUU! *cough*

Anyway, I doubt that's the last of Kirihito.
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Besides, Spirit Channeling was never really well used in the first three games, anyway. Its only real purpose was to keep Mia around, which they could have done by just keeping her alive. But other than their "find Maya" strategy in 2-4, and the summoning mess in 3-5, the Fey channeling powers were completely underutilized. (btw, not talking about Psyche Locks - just the channeling powers themselves).:

Erm, yeah, except for being an integral part of all 3 games' story in a way not related to Mia, it's totally underutilized.
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Spoiler: Some Gs4-4 spoilers
Maybe Tensai didn't like Odoroki's father,and killed him.Maybe he didn't like his relationship with Yuumi because he was not a magician,like Zakku.And then Odoroki went to an orphanage :ack: .

But don't dream of Morgan coming back.Probably she is dead.
I hope GS5-4 or GS5-5 has something with Garyuu Wave.I want other members of the band to show in the game.I want more air instrument animations! :kyouya:
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I don't think Tensai would've killed anyone. I mean, he's a stern teacher but he's not a murderer.
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