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Morgan on the other hand, was merely an accomplice to two crimes. She stands no chance!
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Think about it. When Mia's spirit told Dahlia how she kept failing and all that, what on earth was that coming out of Dahlia when she left Maya's body? Not just her spirit.
I personally believe that Dahlia was maybe closely related to the Devil. Not as in sibling or cousin but...well, you know.
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Akiak wrote:
Morgan on the other hand, was merely an accomplice to two crimes. She stands no chance!
Uh, Morgan wasn't an accomplice. She masterminded 2-2 and 3-5. Mimi and Dahlia were the accomplices.
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I mean Morgan didn't have the guts to kill someone herself I mean she needed a fucking partner.
Please explain why getting someone else to kill someone for you is somehow not as bad as killing that person yourself.
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Oh, definitely Dahlia. She gave poor Fawles a poisoned bottle and framed him for her killing of Valerie-her own stepsister. She hid evidence with Phoenix and framed him for Swallow's murder. She tried to frame Iris-AND MAYA-for Misty's murder.
Exactly.
And Morgan only wanted to kill one person, so Morgan would be 'honoured.'
Where as Dahlia killed...Terry, Doug, nearly Phoenix, nearly Maya, and would've killed Mia. Dahlia killed to save herself, or to get revenge.
Motive for Terry: So Dahlia would not be found out.
Doug: So no one would find out Dahlia stole poison.
Nick: To get incriminating evidence back.
Maya: To get revenge on a dead person.
Mia: To satisfy Dahlia, because Mia put Dahlia in jail.
AND Dahlia actually planned to kill from the grave. And she was the reason Misty died.
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On the other hand, concerning Dahlia I have the opposite feeling, it's like she's being evil for the sake of it. Yes, I know that, for instance, if her father hadn't left Morgan, perhaps she wouldn't have any reason for faking a hostage, but it seems to me that then she'd doing any other evil thing anyway.
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) I think it would be Morgan. Considering the fact that she gave birth to Dahlia, it would still be too vague. I hypothesize that Dahlia was neglected. My explanation is from her past. His father was a selfish jeweler, her mother was a greedy position stealer, and her step-mom and step-sister weren't sure of their feelings for her. If she stayed at the place where the Fey clan are, or if she stayed with Iris in the temple, then she wouldn't have been such an evil [uhmm... what's the word?] person because she may be able to socialize herself and not bottle up things with only one person to rely on, her sister, Iris.Even though both Dahlia and Iris hated their parents very much, you can see the difference. Iris did not hold any vengeance but Dahlia did. Their father must be really uncaring as to make Dahlia THAT influenced. And of course we know Morgan, right?
Another influence would be Valerie Hawthorne's mother [whoever she is...].
Anyway, if you re-assess Valerie's character overview, you can see that she isn't much of a kind person since she cared less of Dahlia jumping from Dusky Bridge to Eagle River. [although i still don't know if Valerie knows another accomplice, Iris again...there is still less evidence if she knows Iris or not.]Morgan, on Dahlia's POV, was very greedy. Well, yes really. And if it weren't for her high pride, she would have focused on trying to prepare for her "supposed-to-be" clan position. But instead, she was just put into the branch family.
So, I therefore pick Morgan
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At least Morgan wanted Pearly to be the master, not get rich. So, i'll go with Dahlia.
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A hypothesis would be that she needed the money. She wanted to be free and get revenge on her father for a certain reason. Unfortunately, much people were too noisy [Valerie much
]. She needed to quiet them down for her to not be stopped. And that's where she states that Iris was a backstabber. We can discuss the Iris thingy on a more elaborate and different topic. 
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They're both as bad as each other, just working on different levels.
Plus, Morgan creeps me out loads D:
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Morgan:
1) Tries to frame niece for murder over some stupid honor thing
2) Tries to kill niece over aforementioned stupid honor thing
Dahlia:
1) Kills man as he is about to reveal her secrets (this wouldn't be so bad, except she planned it FIVE YEARS IN FREAKING ADVANCE)
2) Poisons Diego Armando because she thinks he knows too much
3) Tries to kill Feenie, but kills Doug Swallow instead, then tries to pin it on Feenie
4) See Morgan #2
...actually, after making this I'm torn. Dahlia actually had a halfway decent motive for all her murders, except #4. On the other hand, she did more evil...
...wow, I'm stuck.
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At least Morgan was kind of doing it for Pearls...
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ProsecutorPressley wrote:
Dahlia, she's just really evil... She planned her first kidnapping/murder when she was 14...
At least Morgan was kind of doing it for Pearls...
At least Morgan was kind of doing it for Pearls...
she was not doing it for Pearls
she was doing it becuase of pride and crushing the main branch she hated so much
Morgan wasn'T thinking about Pearls one second
even worse is the fact she used her OWN 8 yeared daughter to do it for her
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ProsecutorPressley wrote:
Dahlia, she's just really evil... She planned her first kidnapping/murder when she was 14...
At least Morgan was kind of doing it for Pearls...
At least Morgan was kind of doing it for Pearls...
Actually she wasn't. She wanted her to do that so that she can become powerful and after that she would prbably kill poor Pearly
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Spoiler: The spoilers for JFA and T&T - basically the entirety of their past, begin here.
Thus, I wouldn't say one is more evil than the other. They manifest their being evil in different ways and plans and were thrust into various situations, and so cannot be directly compared.
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Morgan's motive was to get rid of Maya so Pearls could be the new master.
Dahlia is willing to kill anyone and not feel a shred a guilt about it as well as not feeling guilty about the lives she ruined. She is also more manipulative than more Morgan.
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Dahlia is without a doubt more evil.
Morgan's motive was to get rid of Maya so Pearls could be the new master.
Dahlia is willing to kill anyone and not feel a shred a guilt about it as well as not feeling guilty about the lives she ruined. She is also more manipulative than more Morgan.
Morgan's motive was to get rid of Maya so Pearls could be the new master.
Dahlia is willing to kill anyone and not feel a shred a guilt about it as well as not feeling guilty about the lives she ruined. She is also more manipulative than more Morgan.
dude
Morgan did not care a second about Pearls, she simply wanted to have the master's blood in her family, and she wanted the honor, but she didn't gave a shit about Pearls, also she wanted to make Pearls a murdere, dude, that is pretty whack imo
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No matter what you do, this makes you more evil than anything
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End Quote wrote:
Dahlia killed Diego.
No matter what you do, this makes you more evil than anything
No matter what you do, this makes you more evil than anything
Did you finished the whole game yet?
Diego killed himself (I know Dahlia poisened Diego, I played the game a couple of times)
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Coffee Prosecutor wrote:
End Quote wrote:
Dahlia killed Diego.
No matter what you do, this makes you more evil than anything
No matter what you do, this makes you more evil than anything
Did you finished the whole game yet?
Diego killed himself (I know Dahlia poisened Diego, I played the game a couple of times)
She tried to kill him by poison, he got in a coma for 5 years and his life was pretty much ruined so that counts as killing to me.
But Diego killing himself, is that actual plot? (I finished it for the 1st time this month)
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End Quote wrote:
Coffee Prosecutor wrote:
End Quote wrote:
Dahlia killed Diego.
No matter what you do, this makes you more evil than anything
No matter what you do, this makes you more evil than anything
Did you finished the whole game yet?
Diego killed himself (I know Dahlia poisened Diego, I played the game a couple of times)
She tried to kill him by poison, he got in a coma for 5 years and his life was pretty much ruined so that counts as killing to me.
But Diego killing himself, is that actual plot? (I finished it for the 1st time this month)
he said it, but not that direct.
Godot said how much he changed because of that and with the mask Diego died, or something in that direction
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So yes,Dahlia is by far more evil. She killed 4 people,Absolutely destroid Diego's life,Deeply hurt Mia Fey and almost made her quit law),almost ruined Maya and Pearly's life, Hurt her own sister Iris emotionally,and almost killed Phoenix Wright. Yep she is more evil than Morgan.
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Forget about that, he was a prick anyway
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Valerie dragged Dahlia out of hiding by telling her 'Hey Imma rat you out now'
Mia herself admits that Valerie left Dahlia no other choice but to act
There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that Dahlia ever had any plans to go after Valerie or Terry or anyone else had Valerie not decided to confess on Dahlia's behalf
I really can't understand why so many people either miss this very important point or ignore it completely when the game makes it so clear
Not that I'm saying that justifies Dahlia murdering someone but she didn't just show up on a whim to stab Val in the back
Self-preservation is a very strong motive I think
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Franzise Deauxnim wrote:
Dahlia did not just 'come back after five years to kill Valerie'
Valerie dragged Dahlia out of hiding by telling her 'Hey Imma rat you out now'
Mia herself admits that Valerie left Dahlia no other choice but to act
There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that Dahlia ever had any plans to go after Valerie or Terry or anyone else had Valerie not decided to confess on Dahlia's behalf
I really can't understand why so many people either miss this very important point or ignore it completely when the game makes it so clear
Not that I'm saying that justifies Dahlia murdering someone but she didn't just show up on a whim to stab Val in the back
Self-preservation is a very strong motive I think
Valerie dragged Dahlia out of hiding by telling her 'Hey Imma rat you out now'
Mia herself admits that Valerie left Dahlia no other choice but to act
There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that Dahlia ever had any plans to go after Valerie or Terry or anyone else had Valerie not decided to confess on Dahlia's behalf
I really can't understand why so many people either miss this very important point or ignore it completely when the game makes it so clear
Not that I'm saying that justifies Dahlia murdering someone but she didn't just show up on a whim to stab Val in the back
Self-preservation is a very strong motive I think
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