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From what I understand it's a reboot for the 360/PS3. I can already tell this is going to be as loved and regarded as canon as DMC2.
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..I'm so disappointed right now.
Just why, why are they calling it "DMC - Devil May Cry" anyway? They could have created a new series with such game and stopped "raping" the old DMC series.
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2. They're calling it DmC because it's a lot easier to sell games in an established franchise than to create a new IP.
3. Considering this is (from what I understand) a reboot of the franchise, this game should not affect the previously established Devil May Cry storyline whatsoever.
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Nobody's forcing you guys to play it if you think it looks so terrible.
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Gyakuten Phoenix wrote:
3. Considering this is (from what I understand) a reboot of the franchise, this game should not affect the previously established Devil May Cry storyline whatsoever.
and exactly that is my problem. Instead of trying to beat some logic into that whole mess, called DMC story, they rather create a new game with the same old title.
This is exactly like when you're watching a movie and suddenly that movie stops and another one starts. The "new" one may be even great but the thing is, that I'm still interested in what happened in that previous movie.
They never finished telling the old DMC story but instead, started a new one.
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Yeah, because Capcom has never ever rebooted or done a spin-off of one of their popular series before.
Nobody's forcing you guys to play it if you think it looks so terrible.
Nobody's forcing you guys to play it if you think it looks so terrible.
I don't care if Capcom already did such thing one or thousand of times before...
I never said it looks horrible, the graphics actually look pretty decent. However, to me it feels like I've just been kicked in the ass by Ninja Theory and Capcom.
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Gyakuten Phoenix wrote:
3. Considering this is (from what I understand) a reboot of the franchise, this game should not affect the previously established Devil May Cry storyline whatsoever.
That's why there's a contradiction in this case. Capcom has over a year kept saying that DMC5 wasn't yet worked on and therefore wished fans to submit their ideas for the next game (fan-tailoring as they say it). And I dare to say NOBODY wanted the series rebooted. So Capcom ate its words and offered a deal to Ninja Theory? What?
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..I'm so disappointed right now. This just seems like another stupid game about someone who has been tortured by some useless scientists and therefore turned out to have super-human strength or whatever. Like we don't have enough of these kind of games already... I really hope that is just some spinoff-series....
Although the trailer resembles DMC only in the format of fighting, I've (already) heard some rumors about the plot going like that this "new" Dante only thinks he's "the" Dante and the old cast make appearance (even declared as a reboot). Dunno :0
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Well, I can't reveal a whole lot... But he's obviously younger. A lot younger. It's all part of the story. His look is part of the story.
But like I said above, tell us what it is that is bugging you most about his look. Write it out. Be specific.
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But like I said above, tell us what it is that is bugging you most about his look. Write it out. Be specific.
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I know there's a few other employees who've said it as well...
if you look at the trailer he has abit of his silver hair...hes just back at the the time before he became the Dante we've come to know...his design still is pretty bad though in my own opinion :P
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Cold52 wrote:
I know there's a few other employees who've said it as well...
if you look at the trailer he has abit of his silver hair...hes just back at the the time before he became the Dante we've come to know...his design still is pretty bad though in my own opinion :P
if you look at the trailer he has abit of his silver hair...hes just back at the the time before he became the Dante we've come to know...his design still is pretty bad though in my own opinion :P
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Gyakuten Phoenix wrote:
But listen gaiz. Just because they release this reboot doesn't mean they'll never complete the original story. Look at Mega Man 9 & 10. There've been like six other MM series' between the release of MM8 and MM9.
1* There are too many differences between these two series for your statement to be water-proof. Mainly because of the story, in MM the story wasn't as important as the game itself. But in DMC it's at least as important, maybe in the first games not but nowadays sure.
2* There was only what 20 years between MM8 and 9...
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Cold52 wrote:
I know there's a few other employees who've said it as well...
if you look at the trailer he has abit of his silver hair...hes just back at the the time before he became the Dante we've come to know...his design still is pretty bad though in my own opinion :P
if you look at the trailer he has abit of his silver hair...hes just back at the the time before he became the Dante we've come to know...his design still is pretty bad though in my own opinion :P
I don't get why he's supposed to have black hair at all. Sparda's hair was white/silver-ish, Eva's hair was blond, so why's his hair black?........or is a demon's natural hair color black? Then why was his hair to be seen white in one of his childhood pictures in the anime? or did he just dye his hair black? but his hair wasn't black in the novels either.....
...at this point, I really don't want to see how Vergil's supposed to look like, if there's gonna be a Vergil in that new game at all.
In all honesty, I don't think this game will have any connections with the old DMC story. Even if the new game fails to sell well, there's no guarantee that we'll have the old DMC back. I actually think, that when something like that will occur, Capcom will decide to stop the whole series rather than making a new game based on the old story.
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1* There are too many differences between these two series for your statement to be water-proof. Mainly because of the story, in MM the story wasn't as important as the game itself. But in DMC it's at least as important, maybe in the first games not but nowadays sure.
Exactly.
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Nemesis wrote:
I don't get why he's supposed to have black hair at all. Sparda's hair was white/silver-ish, Eva's hair was blond, so why's his hair black?........or is a demon's natural hair color black? Then why was his hair to be seen white in one of his childhood pictures in the anime? or did he just dye his hair black? but his hair wasn't black in the novels either.....
...at this point, I really don't want to see how Vergil's supposed to look like, if there's gonna be a Vergil in that new game at all.
In all honesty, I don't think this game will have any connections with the old DMC story. Even if the new game fails to sell well, there's no guarantee that we'll have the old DMC back. I actually think, that when something like that will occur, Capcom will decide to stop the whole series rather than making a new game based on the old story.
...at this point, I really don't want to see how Vergil's supposed to look like, if there's gonna be a Vergil in that new game at all.
In all honesty, I don't think this game will have any connections with the old DMC story. Even if the new game fails to sell well, there's no guarantee that we'll have the old DMC back. I actually think, that when something like that will occur, Capcom will decide to stop the whole series rather than making a new game based on the old story.
well for the hair question the anime has no value canon wise to the dmc game...other than that though I'm unsure myself...but seeing the small bit of silver hair on dante's head during the trailer makes me think it might have changed rather than was dyed...but hey at this point it is way to early on to know exactly what the heck is going on with his hair let alone anything really...I just know dantes current concept isn't something I particularly like.
but yes if this doesnt sell well it might put the nails to the coffin for devil may cry.
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Steel Samurai wrote:
Gyakuten Phoenix wrote:
But listen gaiz. Just because they release this reboot doesn't mean they'll never complete the original story. Look at Mega Man 9 & 10. There've been like six other MM series' between the release of MM8 and MM9.
1* There are too many differences between these two series for your statement to be water-proof. Mainly because of the story, in MM the story wasn't as important as the game itself. But in DMC it's at least as important, maybe in the first games not but nowadays sure.
That doesn't matter. So what if the stories are different? They're both franchises from Capcom. They're both franchises that have taken on a new direction (several new directions, in Mega Man's case). They're both franchises that aren't dead. Therefore, they're both franchises that have the potential to continue where they left off.
There is not a single reason that Capcom cannot continue where they left off (i.e. DMC4) after this new DmC game comes out.
P.S. It was only 14 years between 8 and 9.
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Gyakuten Phoenix wrote:
That doesn't matter. So what if the stories are different? They're both franchises from Capcom. They're both franchises that have taken on a new direction (several new directions, in Mega Man's case). They're both franchises that aren't dead. Therefore, they're both franchises that have the potential to continue where they left off.
There is not a single reason that Capcom cannot continue where they left off (i.e. DMC4) after this new DmC game comes out.
There is not a single reason that Capcom cannot continue where they left off (i.e. DMC4) after this new DmC game comes out.
That statement still leaks. DMC is a young franchise compared to MM and in MM's case the franchise's popularity had gone down at the time they released MM8. Even if I don't prefer it it was a good idea to reboot the franchise as MMX (mainly because the old MM-formula "Wily makes robots and Megaman stops him" had gone old already at the time of MMVI), which then spawned its own games etc.
But in DMC there is/was some many things unfinished, mainly plotholes 'n stuff, and don't forget about the fan-tailoring -thing. And besides they already have one prequel, just how dark past must Dante have?
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P.S. It was only 14 years between 8 and 9.
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Why? I don't get why they'd do this? Could easily do another game without needing to reboot
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Gyakuten Phoenix wrote:
There is not a single reason that Capcom cannot continue where they left off (i.e. DMC4) after this new DmC game comes out.
But the problem is, they're saying they decided to reboot in the first place because DMC4 did not sell as well as they wanted to. If DmC sells well, they'll continue doing that. If DmC does poorly, they have no incentive to do DMC5, because if it wasn't popular enough to do before, how can it possibly become MORE popular after a failed game?
Looking at it realistically, we're not going to see another DMC game with traditional Dante. And that is very sad :(
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You guys, you'll never guess what Capcom is doing! So they had this great series, right? About a character who all the fans loved for his witty, dry sense of humour. He had several well-loved games with a significant fan-base. And guess what!? Now he's being replaced! Replaced by this younger, skinnier, all-round seemingly inferior version of what is essentially the same character! He has some pretty dumb physical characteristics, too. A whole lot of the fans are thinking that this is a bad direction to take! Ah, but, I can't remember what the series is called... Oh! That's right! Devil May Cry!
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I cant wait to buy one for my 360 AND PS3! It just looks soo good!!!
You all should stop whining that Capcom finally put that old dead horse to rest, no one even played those games.
This one is gonna be so amazing!
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Yeah, well maybe if I wasn't so much better than everyone else, I wouldn't have to talk about it so much.
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Gyakuten Phoenix wrote:
You guys, you'll never guess what Capcom is doing! So they had this great series, right? About a character who all the fans loved for his witty, dry sense of humour. He had several well-loved games with a significant fan-base. And guess what!? Now he's being replaced! Replaced by this younger, skinnier, all-round seemingly inferior version of what is essentially the same character! He has some pretty dumb physical characteristics, too. A whole lot of the fans are thinking that this is a bad direction to take! Ah, but, I can't remember what the series is called... Oh! That's right! Devil May Cry!
The Ace Attorney series isn't comparable to the DMC series in that kind of situation. Phoenix's trilogy was finished, his story was over. You got your ending but Devil May Cry fans didn't. All we got is a book without the final chapter and a kick in the ass by the author.
Apollo Justice wasn't a reboot either; it was a new start for another story of another defense attorney. Oh and there was plenty of Phoenix in a game which was supposed to be about the new protagonist but that's offtopic..... That said, AJ actually seems more comparable to DMC 4 than to the new DmC.
I'm not even angry anymore. The new Dante doesn't look super awesome but oh well, the game still could be somewhat good. I am just sad, sad about the fact something ends without an ending.
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Man, this is so awesome. I never care for the old dMc series, it was always pretty bad IMO. But this new one, Man does it ever look awesome!
I cant wait to buy one for my 360 AND PS3! It just looks soo good!!!
You all should stop whining that Capcom finally put that old dead horse to rest, no one even played those games.
This one is gonna be so amazing!
I cant wait to buy one for my 360 AND PS3! It just looks soo good!!!
You all should stop whining that Capcom finally put that old dead horse to rest, no one even played those games.
This one is gonna be so amazing!
Are you kidding me?
I play the games, for one.
Two, if DMC is a dead horse, why make a new game in that series? Maybe because *gasp* there are fans and interested people?!
Never seen anyone try to make a new horse off a dead one.
Third, I doubt it'll be that different from the original series if you really get down to it. So far we've seen a new person (I refuse to call that anorexic Dante!), not a whole new game that revolutionizes everything. If they really wanted a fresh, new start, they would've picked another name and given up on the demon-hunter-thing.
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Two, if DMC is a dead horse, why make a new game in that series? Maybe because *gasp* there are fans and interested people?!
No. There isn't.
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Never seen anyone try to make a new horse off a dead one.
Its called Child birth. Look it up.
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(I refuse to call that anorexic Dante!)
1) Your wrong.
2) I like that hes not fat anymore.
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Yeah, well maybe if I wasn't so much better than everyone else, I wouldn't have to talk about it so much.
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It's like a cheesy B-rated action flick that cleanses your palette between gritty war dramas. And there would be plenty of market for it, if they would fix the REAL problems of DMC, like shitty level design, repeated bosses, and inconsistent plotting.
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The fact that they decided to reboot isn't the part that bothers me so much as them removing all sensation of fun from the design. That was what set DMC apart from other actions games, and still does: what Dante has that many other gaming protagonists doesn't is his bombastic personality. It's not just about mowing down enemies, it's about having a damn good time doing it. Sure you can feel like a badass with the other dark and brooding heros of other games, but there's a certain kind of glee that comes with a DMC game, because everything is over the top and you don't have to take it too seriously.
It's like a cheesy B-rated action flick that cleanses your palette between gritty war dramas. And there would be plenty of market for it, if they would fix the REAL problems of DMC, like shitty level design, repeated bosses, and inconsistent plotting.
It's like a cheesy B-rated action flick that cleanses your palette between gritty war dramas. And there would be plenty of market for it, if they would fix the REAL problems of DMC, like shitty level design, repeated bosses, and inconsistent plotting.
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From Tameem wrote:
“The essence of Devil May Cry is all about ‘cool. It’s about Dante being cool and making you feel cool when you’re playing it, and so the combat and the style system and everything is integral to that. But, you know, what was cool 12 years ago — I think that was when the first game came out – isn’t cool anymore. If Dante, dressed as he was, walked into any bar outside of Tokyo, he’d get laughed out. What Devil May Cry did when it launched was it brought everything that was great about action cinema like the fashion, music — it was like a cultural melting pot — and I feel like now, for Devil May Cry to have that same impact, it needs to draw on new things. New music, new ways of cinematography, new fashion.”
Ok seriously dude, you don't know what you're talking about.
I'm pretty sure that even 9 years ago, Dante would have been laughed out of any bar on the planet. He wears a giant red tench coat, damnit. Who cares? DMC was never about being "current" it's about crazy anime aesthetics and killing the crap out of demons. Oh, and good job insulting the entre fanbase with bold statements about Dante not being "cool." And declaring yourself the definition of cool at the same time, I get it.
Not to mention after playing the Enslaved demo, I'm not convinced that Ninja Theory knows anything about being "new." Uncharted much? Considering that Heavenly Sword was just boobie-GOW I shouldn't have expected more. Creating an inferior version of DMC should be right up their alley I guess.
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Theoretically, I should be happy about that since I'm big fan of him. Thing is: I am not happy.
I'm slightly worried about the fact that well, Ninja Theory fucks up Vergil. That they either turn him into someone who's exactly the opposite of the original version (just thinking about a happy and totally brotherly Vergil kinda scares me) or some super evil villain who happens to be like the zillion of other villains from other games.
On another note:
...is there actually any info about the reboot being based on the Divine Comedy by Dante Alighieri as well? I mean, all we heard until now is "Dante's origins bla bla bla, new design bla bla bla, not cool bla bla bla" but what about the Divine Comedy?
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Edit: I just noticed, Ninja Theory is a British team right? Say goodbye to boob-demons.
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Edit: I just noticed, Ninja Theory is a British team right? Say goodbye to boob-demons.
On the other hand....
Ninja theory made Heavenly Sword and look at their protaganist.
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In other words, WHAT THE HELL IS THIS ANOREXIC EMO DOING? NO ONE TOUCHES DANTE BUT ME. *snarl*
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