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Okay then, comments...
So they're back to revealing the criminal in the first case intro? Darn. (also he looks creepyyyyyyy D: )
Anyway, time to isolate myself from any and all things GS5. Playing games like this without knowing anything is just SOOOO much nicer. (Well, I may check out the TGS coverage... but definitely nothing after that)
So they're back to revealing the criminal in the first case intro? Darn. (also he looks creepyyyyyyy D: )
Anyway, time to isolate myself from any and all things GS5. Playing games like this without knowing anything is just SOOOO much nicer. (Well, I may check out the TGS coverage... but definitely nothing after that)
We dont know much other than he's wearing a Helmet, who knows, there might be more than 2 people and the Killer would probably not wear a Helmet and look different.
AAI, despite showing the First Killer, had some pretty awesome and unexpected plot twists
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My inner fanboy wants Kay as the prosecutor, but we need that obligatory new character rival, either way it's a win win for me. God. Today is a good day, can't wait for more info and that TGS mock Trial, you know it's coming.
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Expected Apollo as main, though... but with the wording "1 year after AA4" and "returns to be a lawyer" I don't think they'd completely forget about those events... Please give the guy a cameo and solve the loose plot-twists!
Nick's new design is cool, and I like the new girl too. Also Payne's brother reminds me of movie!Redd White, haha.
Also good to hear it's for 3DS, though I expected that. (also people are complaining about that? really, 3DS has been out for a year and a half and the regular DS is already "dead" new game-wise so you shouldn't expect new games for that one anymore...)
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I like the look of the new sidekick (if she IS a sidekick), though. Fingers crossed for more info on AJ characters...
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It mentions Phoenix returning to fulfill a promise. Could this have something to do with the system?
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uncleungie wrote:
No Shu Takumi!?!?! The series is now dead to me.
Huddini wrote:
And Shu Takumi isn't involved at all...but the AAI producer guy is...so I have even lower expectations now.
Yellow Magician wrote:
It's not so nice seeing Phoenix Wright back in action with Shu Takumi out of the picture,
I don't understand the few bits of Eshiro hate going on. AAI was amazing and just as good quality as Takumi's work. The only thing I can think of to substantiate such a thing is the AAI series is different to normal and therefore not as good (which is a weak reason).
I'm just as excited for this as I would have been if Takumi was involved.
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Elixeril wrote:
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It's not so nice seeing Phoenix Wright back in action with Shu Takumi out of the picture,
I don't understand the few bits of Eshiro hate going on. AAI was amazing and just as good quality as Takumi's work. The only thing I can think of to substantiate such a thing is the AAI series is different to normal and therefore not as good (which is a weak reason).
I'm just as excited for this as I would have been if Takumi was involved.
I agree. Its obvious Takumi is set on other things, and I think having him in charge would negatively affect the series. And having the creator of a series always be im charge isnt always a good thing (Phantom Menace, anyone?) Eshiro is the showrunner now, and I look at that as a positive thing right now.
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Maybe Nick was given back his badge or he had to take the Bar again (more likely?)
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And the prosecutor for case 1 is just... weird...
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but it's too bad it's on the 3DS.
Why is that bad?
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I mean, where is everyone? Trucy is still Nick's daughter and would be 16 at the time this is set, so she's unlikely to have flown the nest. So Nick has one high-school girl following him around solving cases with him and one who he keeps locked at home except for when its time for a magic show? There is a small chance they could be one and the same but I doubt it as that girl looks too different. But there'd better be a good explanation coz Trucy has proven to work just as well as a lawyer's assistant. Apollo? Well presumably he's still a lawyer and would be in touch with Phoenix. I mean, Nick really owes it to him to keep friendly with him. Even if the grand plot behind AJ:AA was Nick's scheme, he couldn't have done it without Polly! Kristoph and Ema should still be active and I'll be expecting an appearance from them. Why Payne's younger brother and not Payne himself? If there's one thing we've learned in the twelve (in-game) years we've known him, it's that he never knows when to give up and always comes back smugger than ever. Why does that change now? I find it hard to believe he'd hear about Nick returning to law and be able to resist facing him again. Maya? A lot of people are assuming she's too busy as the master now, but the epilogue to T&T hinted that although it's hard work for her balancing it with being Nick's assistant, she still manages. Pearl hasn't gone anywhere either, although that girl could be her...
I know, I know, it's the very first look at the game and for all I know all these people may appear. It may be that they're withholding announcements about these characters so they have a healthy supply of hype-ammo. But without Takumi playing a big part in the game, it's hard to be certain that everyone present is really gonna treat the franchise with the respect it deserves. If they're simply looking to make the game with the line-up of characters they want (and they think will make the fans most happy) then who's to say they're not above simply putting everyone else on a big bus to theyrenotaroundmuchthesedays-ville and after a one-sentence explanation, never mentioning them again.
I may be completely wrong. In fact I HOPE I am. But only time will tell.
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Lusankya wrote:
Indochine Ramera wrote:
but it's too bad it's on the 3DS.
Why is that bad?
Yeah, now maybe I'll have some use for the damn thing.
Also, the Takumi vs. Eshiro thing reminds me an awful lot about the Monkey Island fanbase, where the last "real" game was either LeChuck's Revenge or Curse depending on who you ask.
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Pierre wrote:
And lo that night Pierre wept tears of joy and hugged his friends dearly.
Seriously I'm just happy we're getting AA5. Sure I'm sad about Apollo but given the talk going about lately I was worried the franchise would disappear onto iOS and I'd never see it.
Great Great night.
Seriously I'm just happy we're getting AA5. Sure I'm sad about Apollo but given the talk going about lately I was worried the franchise would disappear onto iOS and I'd never see it.
Great Great night.
Let's weep tears of joy and hug each other, bro!
Couldn't have phrased it any better. I have to admit, the moment I read the news, I was like a little boy about to unwrap his christmas presents (Nintendo Sixty-Foooooooooooooooooooouuuuuuuuurrrrrrr!!!!). Except this time, it was 'Gyakuten Saiban Fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiive!!!'. Then, my brain got stuck on 'F*ck yeah!!!' mode, and still isn't reverting back to that state every few minutes.
I'm really glad we're getting another game, and on 3DS to boot. The scans got me really excited, the game looks great (I mean, that little teeny teensy snippet of the game looks great).
About Apollo, I can't say I'm disappointed (still too excited about the news), but I would've been happy either way : with or without him. I just hope they won't totally ditch him, and that he'll still appear one way or another... bit like Phoenix never really disappeared in GS4 (understatement of the day).
But I'm like Wooster on that one, I wasn't that surprised. I mean, since 2007 we've barely seen Apollo at all on promotional stuff and goodies.... while Phoenix got 2 musicals, a cameo in AAI, 1 movie, 1 HD port of his games on smartphones, 1 crappy port of his games on WiiWare, and even a crossover with Prof. Layton. I think half the reason we got two spin-offs with Edgeworth was : to make games with a character '''everybody''' liked, so as to make people 'forget' about poor Apollo.
Ok, let's enjoy the announcement, let's wait for more screens and a first trailer at TGS and... begin worrying whether the game will get localised. But let's keep that for much later, let's rejoice for the moment !
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I'm quite a bit iffy on the 3D characters thing, I wasn't too impressed by the models from PLvsAA, I just hope they're just as vibrant as their sprite counterparts. I also can't help but to think about going back to the old way of investigating in contrast of AAI's. It feels like it's taking a step back, that's assuming IF they plan on going back to the GS style, but heck there's a lot of stuff we don't know about this game yet.
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Elixeril wrote:
uncleungie wrote:
No Shu Takumi!?!?! The series is now dead to me.
Huddini wrote:
And Shu Takumi isn't involved at all...but the AAI producer guy is...so I have even lower expectations now.
Yellow Magician wrote:
It's not so nice seeing Phoenix Wright back in action with Shu Takumi out of the picture,
I don't understand the few bits of Eshiro hate going on. AAI was amazing and just as good quality as Takumi's work. The only thing I can think of to substantiate such a thing is the AAI series is different to normal and therefore not as good (which is a weak reason).
I'm just as excited for this as I would have been if Takumi was involved.
I love AAI, but I understand the complaints...
I think they would have a much warmer reaction to Eshiro if they had played GK2, tho xP
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But he's also had his down sides, I hear there's a MAJOR
moment in terms of character rationalization that made Croik want to throw her DS at the wall. But it's not like Takumi wasn't guilty of the same thing in GS3 and that nonsense which was GS2-3. In other words, the game is in as good hands as it has ever been. And Takumi off the GS train means he'll have time soon for Ghost Trick 2 or maybe some other new IP.
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I am moderately worried about losing characters, but old favorites and newcomers from the previous game. I think the writers know of our worries. I think they will deal with our worries decently.
What I am missing here is the main prosecutor. It's obviously not Payne-bro. They have lots of interesting choices to pick from, but you just can't make a new game without having a new main prosecutor.
And my personal notes: looks like they stole the 3d engine from the crossover game. Also: yet another custom file format. Capcom is always writing a marginally different custom archive file format in each game. I counted seven variants last night. That I know of that is.
Finally, there is one thing that is missing from the screenshots. The investigation phase. What do they have in store for us?
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Ace Attorney Investigations was probably my least favorite game and it was indeed because of the storywriting but I was still willing to give Gyakuten Kenji 2 a swing anyway regardless of how I felt about its predecessor because it was a new game. I didn't have any notion to judge that game by the people who were making it.
If Shu Takumi isn't going to helm this project then so be it.
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And my personal notes: looks like they stole the 3d engine from the crossover game.
Yeah, that's what I was just thinking, in fact the existing screenshots it looks like they reused a lot of PL vs PW as a base for the game. So maybe it will come out sooner than we expected....
Ummm, does anyone know what Takumi's role is. It's 'less' but is it confirmed 'not at all' or something?
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For Ace Attorney 5, the magazine says that Phoenix Wright is the main character.
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Phoenix Wright is the main character.
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Phoenix Wright is the main character.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
No this isn't happening! There's no reason for me to go on! What...? WHAT AM I FIGHTING FOOOOOOOOR!!!!
*ahem* In all seriousness, this has been the biggest disappointment of the year for me. I can't believe Capcom are playing the "Apollo Justice isn't as liked as Phoenix so let's erase him from existence" card. The only reason Phoenix is the main character is so that the fanboys will stop bitching about Phoenix not being the main character. The fact that Apollo isn't the main character means that he won't be in the game. Capcom are obviously trying to force us to forget about him. Phoenix's story ended in Trials and Tribulations and marked the beginning of Apollo's trilogy, but since Phoenix has the starring role in AA5, it means that we will never ever see Apollo again. Unless it's his dead corpse.
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This is amazing, btw. Made my day. Heck, this made my month, and beyond!
I bet Edgey was all "You must look your best for your big return *hands him a cravat*" Phoenix: "uh......" their compromise was a new vest, Of course.
I do feel bad for Apollo.... And Klavier, and everyone else who lost the spotlight (who never really had it anyway, since Phoenix stole AA4 as well). I do miss his hobo look though, he was kind of sexy as a jaded bum. Slightly older Trucy might be fun. I feel like questions from AA4 weren't fully answered, though...
Oh, and I DO HOPE that AAI series eventually ties in with the new AA5 game. It would fit so neatly together.
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As for Phoenix being the star, consider the movie in Japan and the crossover game. Both intoduce the series to new fans, and both have Phoenix's mug on them. If Capcom wants to cash in then they needed Phoenix to star. If they truly wanted the game to be about Apollo, then he should've stared in Professor Layton vs Ace Attorney. He didn't so he's not a contender. Much to my personal regret.
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For Ace Attorney 5, the magazine says that Phoenix Wright is the main character.
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Phoenix Wright is the main character.
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Phoenix Wright is the main character.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
No this isn't happening! There's no reason for me to go on! What...? WHAT AM I FIGHTING FOOOOOOOOR!!!!
*ahem* In all seriousness, this has been the biggest disappointment of the year for me. I can't believe Capcom are playing the "Apollo Justice isn't as liked as Phoenix so let's erase him from existence" card. The only reason Phoenix is the main character is so that the fanboys will stop bitching about Phoenix not being the main character. The fact that Apollo isn't the main character means that he won't be in the game. Capcom are obviously trying to force us to forget about him. Phoenix's story ended in Trials and Tribulations and marked the beginning of Apollo's trilogy, but since Phoenix has the starring role in AA5, it means that we will never ever see Apollo again. Unless it's his dead corpse.
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And my personal notes: looks like they stole the 3d engine from the crossover game.
Yeah, that's what I was just thinking, in fact the existing screenshots it looks like they reused a lot of PL vs PW as a base for the game. So maybe it will come out sooner than we expected....
It could just be beta models at this point. The game still has a long way off to launch, especially to give PLvsAA some time in the spotlight. 3D models take longer to create than 2D sprites, so between now and release they have plenty of time to spruce things up.
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
No this isn't happening! There's no reason for me to go on! What...? WHAT AM I FIGHTING FOOOOOOOOR!!!!
*ahem* In all seriousness, this has been the biggest disappointment of the year for me. I can't believe Capcom are playing the "Apollo Justice isn't as liked as Phoenix so let's erase him from existence" card. The only reason Phoenix is the main character is so that the fanboys will stop bitching about Phoenix not being the main character. The fact that Apollo isn't the main character means that he won't be in the game. Capcom are obviously trying to force us to forget about him. Phoenix's story ended in Trials and Tribulations and marked the beginning of Apollo's trilogy, but since Phoenix has the starring role in AA5, it means that we will never ever see Apollo again. Unless it's his dead corpse.
I don't QUITE buy this analysis because I don't think Apollo is necessarily gone but I would not be surprised if his role is minor and his entire supporting cast is brushed under the rug (which would be AWFUL since Trucy is Phoenix's adopted daughter but they could do it if they wanted to redact Ace Attorney 4 that badly).
Very disappointing move but one that doesn't seem far-fetched, at least at the moment. We'll see where this goes.
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I apologise for acting fanboyish (ironic since I criticised the Phoenix fanboys), I was just really upset. I had so much fun speculating what would happen to Apollo, his backstory, and Trucy's. And if they ever
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No. If Capcom wanted us to forget about Apollo then the game wouldn't have taken place 1 year after AJ. If they did, then they'd retro-con away AJ, which was a legitimate fear since the AAI games deliberately take place between GS3 and Flashback GS4-4, and the cases and games are so jam packed that they could fit a third GK game in and still not touch the disbarment.
I just don't see the point why they had to use the entirety of AJ to explain the disbarment, and now the whole disbarment story is pointless since, well, he's a lawyer again. It seemed like they truly meant to end Feenie's story once and for all in AJ since they used an entire game to explain it.
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As for Phoenix being the star, consider the movie in Japan and the crossover game. Both intoduce the series to new fans, and both have Phoenix's mug on them. If Capcom wants to cash in then they needed Phoenix to star. If they truly wanted the game to be about Apollo, then he should've stared in Professor Layton vs Ace Attorney. He didn't so he's not a contender. Much to my personal regret.
Well think about it, when you hear Ace Attorney, what do you think of? Phoenix. It would have been foolish of Capcom if they based a film on the AJ game since, well, Apollo isn't given the spotlight. The game revolves around Phoenix. Besides, it would have been weird if they started from the fourth game since part of the joy of AJ was seeing the old characters grow up. Newcomers won't get that feeling since they don't know any of the characters. The same can be said for PL vs AA.
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There's her earring, and if you look carefully on her glove is a moon motif. And her hair's kind shaped like a moon shape, much like Gavins hair is shaped like a G.
Wouldn't be surprised if her name was Tsukiko or something
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Shame if they reveal the murderer in the tutorial case but it doesnt really matter - while 1-1 was a p*ss easy case it was the first ever, 2-1 had a clever conceit, 3-1 was linked to the rest of the game and 4-1 was very clever.
The prosecutor for the first case looks JUST like Payne xD
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Maybe they could give the first case to Nick ("Let's see if I remember how to do this..") and he teams with Apollo on the last one?
Shame if they reveal the murderer in the tutorial case but it doesnt really matter - while 1-1 was a p*ss easy case it was the first ever, 2-1 had a clever conceit, 3-1 was linked to the rest of the game and 4-1 was very clever.
Shame if they reveal the murderer in the tutorial case but it doesnt really matter - while 1-1 was a p*ss easy case it was the first ever, 2-1 had a clever conceit, 3-1 was linked to the rest of the game and 4-1 was very clever.
That could make sense. Maybe you could even play as both of them when one investigates a part of the case and the other investigates a second part(a bit like GS3-5, maybe?).
Re: Gyakuten Saiban 5 (Phoenix, 3DS) and PLvsAA in Famitsu
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Looks like Apollo got the boot. But I don't even care right now 'cause look at that Nick! Older and in 3D! *fangirls*
Where's Maya?!?!?! Why isn't she the partner =(
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