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The justice system always seems corrupt anyway in the AA universe - I know in UK/US we say 'innocent until proven guilty' - is it truly the other way round in Japan and other Eastern countries?
From what I learned in Japanese politics&law lecture (I happen to study Japanese Studies), not quite.
Japan has an incredibly high rate of "Guilty" verdicts. Above 80%, if I remember right. If you go to Court as a Defendant, there's a high possibility you are screwed and even the most famed of Defense Attorneys are lucky to score one "Not Guilty" in a span of 25 years. So one might think that, yes, the courts are biased towards the Prosecution, which might be true to an extend.
However, there's another reason for that that's never brought up in Ace Attorney: The VAST majority of cases isn't settled in court, but comes to an end before a trial can ever even start. Out-Of-Court Settlements are the rule in Japan, not the exception. In fact, it's not even unheard of thieves sending flowers, chocolate and apology letters alongside the stolen goods back to the victims if they are in danger of being caught, just so they won't be tried in court. Only the most solid of cases ever get a trial and that's why those usually end in a Guilty Verdict. The japanese apparently HATE going to court - and with a 80%+ rate of Guilty verdicts, who can blame them? If I remember right, there's also an accute shortage of Lawyers, Prosecutors and Judges in the Courts, because nobody wants that kind of job and because the bar exam is hellishly hard. AA makes it look like there were Lawyers around each corner, but this is actually only true for Tokyo, where the vast majority of all Lawyers in Japan lives. The rest of the country is understocked, to put it mildly.
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However, there's another reason for that that's never brought up in Ace Attorney: The VAST majority of cases isn't settled in court, but comes to an end before a trial can ever even start. Out-Of-Court Settlements are the rule in Japan, not the exception. In fact, it's not even unheard of thieves sending flowers, chocolate and apology letters alongside the stolen goods back to the victims if they are in danger of being caught, just so they won't be tried in court. Only the most solid of cases ever get a trial and that's why those usually end in a Guilty Verdict. The japanese apparently HATE going to court - and with a 80%+ rate of Guilty verdicts, who can blame them? If I remember right, there's also an accute shortage of Lawyers, Prosecutors and Judges in the Courts, because nobody wants that kind of job and because the bar exam is hellishly hard. AA makes it look like there were Lawyers around each corner, but this is actually only true for Tokyo, where the vast majority of all Lawyers in Japan lives. The rest of the country is understocked, to put it mildly.
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3rd hand knowledge, but Japan's legal system favors the prosecution in like… 97% of all cases. I don't think I'm making that number up.
Just checked my script from a year ago (Wow, it's been a year already?) and you're more than right. My script says it's 98%. Wow, apparently my memory tried to make it look less extreme than it actually is.
Also, just for fun, have some chart about the barexam that I found in the script, conveniently in english:
Something interesting in here is the training period. 18 months. 1 1/2 year. This means Phoenix must have had his badge for long before his first trial, or he'd have been assigned a new mentor after Mia died.
...Wait, this throws a wrench into the "Prosecutor Apollo" idea. Unless Apollo takes the employment test, 2 years job experience aren't enough for applying as a Prosecutor...
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...Wait, this throws a wrench into the "Prosecutor Apollo" idea. Unless Apollo takes the employment test, 2 years job experience aren't enough for applying as a Prosecutor...
Yeah but this is a video game
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Neni wrote:
...Wait, this throws a wrench into the "Prosecutor Apollo" idea. Unless Apollo takes the employment test, 2 years job experience aren't enough for applying as a Prosecutor...
Yeah but this is a video game
They could just say that along with forcing trials to last up to three days maximum, they also made the time required to become an attorney or prosecutor much shorter.
I'd say the same wouldn't apply to judges though. Just look at all of them and their beards!
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...Wait, this throws a wrench into the "Prosecutor Apollo" idea. Unless Apollo takes the employment test, 2 years job experience aren't enough for applying as a Prosecutor...
Yeah but this is a video game
Correct, seeing as how we see prosecutors ranging from ages 13 and up. Although Justice and Klavier aren't exactly friends, he could have pulled a few strings to have him over at the District Prosecutors.
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Wait, people here are still trying to apply real world logic to a video game? Has nobody learned anything here?
If they didn't learn after saving a defendent with the help of a dead lawyer, they'll never learn
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Wait, people here are still trying to apply real world logic to a video game? Has nobody learned anything here?
If they didn't learn after saving a defendent with the help of a dead lawyer, they'll never learn
Or getting to know a prosecutor that drinks a hundred and more cups of coffee a day.
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Wait, people here are still trying to apply real world logic to a video game? Has nobody learned anything here?
If they didn't learn after saving a defendent with the help of a dead lawyer, they'll never learn
Or getting to know a prosecutor that drinks a hundred and more cups of coffee a day.
Or exorcising a ghost in a courtroom.
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Or exorcising a ghost in a courtroom.
Or... Never mind, let's stay on topic and discuss about impossible things in real life that might occur in this game.
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This seems to be the stance that the series takes. I just looked up what Japan uses for their legal system, and it's apparently a bit of both Adversary (Innocent until proven Guilty) and Inquisitorial.
(My facts may be a little incorrect, I'm just going by memory here)
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The idea of Apollo become a Prosecutor fascinates me, since it'd explain the statement of Eshiro that Phoenix returned to court to keep "an important promise he made to someone". He promised Thalassa to look after her Kids. If Apollo went astray Phoenix would probably decide he needs to repeat what he did with Edgeworth and Object some sense back into the kid as well, for Thalassa's and Trucy's sake and for Apollo's own. Trucy'd probably be rather depressed that Apollo left the agency.
Apollo Prosecutor would be logical character/story development. I mean think how it must really be. The horror of your 'mentor' (we never hear how long he's been with Gavin but it's still got to be a shock at the truth of this 'respected' defense attorney) being exposed, then your 'hero' Phoenix Wright just sets you up and tricks you into presenting forged evidence!
All Apollo did was punch Phoenix, then just blindly start obeying orders and get used... Phoenix didn't even bother to inform him on what he was being used for till the last minute either. NOT consensual! Oh yeah, and the poor guy had a rough life being abandoned who knows where and languishing in the Capcom storage closet for 20 years (as that one TGS court thing said) only to have his dreams of Phoenix Wright and lawyers crushed...
So now Apollo is actually disenfranchised. Then Apollo would be acting like a CHARACTER instead of some avatar written into an impossible position.
There'd be actual reprecussions for this type of stuff for Phoenix! Now Phoenix can feel guilty over this kind of non-mentorship that was indeed part of his 'character development'. (Instead I expect a huge ret-con-ignore.)
So he has to save Apollo and Trucy from being subsumed by the darkness! (the 'promise' to keep them safe or whatever it was at the end of GS4. Since Apollo's an adult, it's got to be something very bad he has to be kept safe from!) Apollo, disenfranchised, has gone to be a prosecutor, of the squeaky clean variety of course. Except that the justice system has become so corrupt he's in danger, probably being tricked into joining them. Of course the evil forces of injustice are also connected to Apollo and Trucy's familie/s (they might deal with Apollo's father/father's family rather than the awful Bad Gramaryes.)
For maximum angst, it's Apollo who was goaded into setting the bomb. (They'd never actually do that.) Whoever ordered the bomb is a higher up obviously.... Perhaps Kristoph will be ret-conned into being 'one of them' rather than merely insane, that's why he disbarred Phoenix rather than only being mad about losing at poker. It might be why Apollo was with Kristoph in the first place. (It will be ret-conned that Phoenix already knew everything and that was why he 'rescued' Apollo in the first place.)
Apollo prosecutor won't happen though, why, because it's 'controversial' and I believe these writers would 'play it safe'. Unless Takumi does still okay their ideas once in a while. Trucy will NEVER be killed, I'm 100% sure. If she's missing, it's not in trial 1, Phoenix would be crazy upset dysfunctional. Apollo might be 'missing' though...
Trial 1 (Tutorial) is probably chronologically after one of the later trials. I vote Winston set the bomb, following someone else's orders. Then maybe he changed his identity to his 'brother' Tonwins to avoid being found out. (he's too low on brains to get a proper identity change)
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The idea of Apollo become a Prosecutor fascinates me, since it'd explain the statement of Eshiro that Phoenix returned to court to keep "an important promise he made to someone". He promised Thalassa to look after her Kids. If Apollo went astray Phoenix would probably decide he needs to repeat what he did with Edgeworth and Object some sense back into the kid as well, for Thalassa's and Trucy's sake and for Apollo's own. Trucy'd probably be rather depressed that Apollo left the agency.
Apollo Prosecutor would be logical character/story development. I mean think how it must really be. The horror of your 'mentor' (we never hear how long he's been with Gavin but it's still got to be a shock at the truth of this 'respected' defense attorney) being exposed, then your 'hero' Phoenix Wright just sets you up and tricks you into presenting forged evidence!
All Apollo did was punch Phoenix, then just blindly start obeying orders and get used... Phoenix didn't even bother to inform him on what he was being used for till the last minute either. NOT consensual! Oh yeah, and the poor guy had a rough life being abandoned who knows where and languishing in the Capcom storage closet for 20 years (as that one TGS court thing said) only to have his dreams of Phoenix Wright and lawyers crushed...
So now Apollo is actually disenfranchised. Then Apollo would be acting like a CHARACTER instead of some avatar written into an impossible position.
It's true, on first glance, Apollo still listening to Nick after all that happens seems unrealistic, but I think there actually was a reason for that:
Apollo, while a distrustful nature, has a horribly strong Big Brother instinct, even if he doesn't realize it himself. And if you pay close attention, you'll realize that this instinct immediately kicks in after he becomes acquainted with Trucy: After that it's not even Phoenix directly who's manipulating Apollo anymore; he's doing it through Trucy. And Apollo can't help but go along, because he can't help but wanting to aid that girl. I mean, think about it, Apollo has barely know Trucy for a day, but he's already telling her to stay away from all danger and crying when he thinks she might have been kidnapped during his first shared case with her. It's not Phoenix who keeps Apollo in the Agency. It's Trucy.
Phoenix must have known that Apollo would react that way to meeting her, even if the young man didn't know she was his sister. I mean, why would he call Apollo to the office when he was at the hospital at the time? He wanted him to meet Trucy before he meets him again. Of course, that leaves open the question how Phoenix could know Apollo would immediately feel so overly responsible for the girl right after meeting her, but I guess he just gambled and assumed that them being related would make some hidden instincts *click* on the kid's head, even if he didn't realize he was her brother.
Is this manipulative of Phoenix? HECK, YES. He's using his own daughter to manipulate a helpless young lawyer who he just cost his workplace! Not cool! But that's why I really support the Prosecutor Apollo Justice idea. Phoenix should have to deal with the consequences of what he's done to the Gramayre siblings, even if it was with the best intents in mind.
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There'd be actual reprecussions for this type of stuff for Phoenix! Now Phoenix can feel guilty over this kind of non-mentorship that was indeed part of his 'character development'. (Instead I expect a huge ret-con-ignore.)
Yeah. This, just this. Nick has to realize that the way he used Apollo and even Trucy was not OK. It makes him almost as bad as Zack, who used Trucy in his escape, in a way.
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Trucy will NEVER be killed, I'm 100% sure. If she's missing, it's not in trial 1, Phoenix would be crazy upset dysfunctional.
Yeah, it's true, that's why I think my variant of the theory couldn't entirely work. As someone before already pointed out, killing Trucy would horribly traumatize both, Phoenix AND Apollo. Though, I think Phoenix is strong enough of a personality to eventually get over it. Apollo isn't. He's not settled enough in his life and ways to deal with such a loss...
Still, killing Trucy might be too much. Phoenix couldn't even fullfill his promise anymore if that happened, because one daughter would already be dead. The only other thing that comes to mind is Trucy being abducted into another country and going missing that way, never to be seen again... This way, she could still ne saved.
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Apollo being a prosecutor.....that could happen. Easily.
I think Capcom are going to give Apollo a tragic role in this game. If they are going to expand on his character (unlikely but whatever) there's a lot in store for him. Finding out about Lamimoir and Trucy, Phoenix using him... We might even get a glimpse of what Apollo used to be like in the orphanage (that's called backstory Capcom, it seems you forgot it in AA4). I always imagined him as a very quiet kid who was constantly bullied. I wrote this fanfiction once where Apollo was a pretty popular kid until he witnessed a crime/murder and was forced to testify in court, and because of lack of/forged evidence the killer was found innocent. Thus after the trial nobody trusted Apollo since he was accused of lying, which led him to lose his friends and get bullied and live a miserable life.
So yeah, Apollo is going to explode in this game. I have a feeling.
I also want them to explore a bit more of Ema's character and backstory, if she is in the game. I suspect Gumshoe will be the main detective so they can include a "HEY LOOK IT'S BEEN 8 YEARS AND HE'S WEARING THE SAME JACKET HAHAHAHA" moment. We still don't know why she's so grumpy. I don't think Klavier is entirely to blame. And I don't think she failed the forensics exam through lack of knowledge. I expect something emotional happened to her before the exam. I hate the idea that every character's backstory has to involve murder though. Maybe her parents divorced or something. Judging by her attitude in 1-5 it's clear she was dead set on becoming a forensic scientist.
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If you want to go the "seriously bad stuff happens" route then I propose that stuff happens that causes said accusation to land her in jail unfairly. It's just the right level of darkness to cause a personal crisis without being hopeless.
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A.) Trucy gets accused of murder.
B.) She gets kidnapped.
I go with B, choose yours.
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All I can say about this is that Trucy is overdue to be accused of murder. All sidekicks need to be accused or murder at least once. You aren't an important character until you've been accused of murdering someone.
If you want to go the "seriously bad stuff happens" route then I propose that stuff happens that causes said accusation to land her in jail unfairly. It's just the right level of darkness to cause a personal crisis without being hopeless.
If you want to go the "seriously bad stuff happens" route then I propose that stuff happens that causes said accusation to land her in jail unfairly. It's just the right level of darkness to cause a personal crisis without being hopeless.
Thanks. That's perfect. Trucy is accused of murder and Apollo fails to save her because the Jury says she did it. Perfect.
And yes, I agree, I want Apollo's childhood explored. (In my headcanon, he had a fairly normal life, but never many friends and was distrustful, but still has a strong sense of justice. The kind people label as a troublemaker, when he's only trying to mediate.)
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All I can say about this is that Trucy is overdue to be accused of murder. All sidekicks need to be accused or murder at least once. You aren't an important character until you've been accused of murdering someone.
If you want to go the "seriously bad stuff happens" route then I propose that stuff happens that causes said accusation to land her in jail unfairly. It's just the right level of darkness to cause a personal crisis without being hopeless.
If you want to go the "seriously bad stuff happens" route then I propose that stuff happens that causes said accusation to land her in jail unfairly. It's just the right level of darkness to cause a personal crisis without being hopeless.
Thanks. That's perfect. Trucy is accused of murder and Apollo fails to save her because the Jury says she did it. Perfect.
And yes, I agree, I want Apollo's childhood explored. (In my headcanon, he had a fairly normal life, but never many friends and was distrustful, but still has a strong sense of justice. The kind people label as a troublemaker, when he's only trying to mediate.)
He looks like the type of guy to try and meditate with a friend before he orchestrates a robbery but ends up cuffed by the police. :3
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I remain opposed to severe Trucy-problems. However sure she could appear as the accused I guess.
Though Henke I'd like to point out that so far as I know Kay was never accused of murder so really only 1/2 of the sidekicks have ever been accused of murder/ Less if you consider Pearl a double sidekick (seeing as she's there almost as much if not more than Maya in her games).
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As for Trucy, damsel in distress is old hat even for GS. Let Polly be the one kidnapped and/or wrongfully convicted and thrown into jail instead!
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Pierre: AAI-5 (though that was merely an arrest rather than a trial).
As for Trucy, damsel in distress is old hat even for GS. Let Polly be the one kidnapped and/or wrongfully convicted and thrown into jail instead!
As for Trucy, damsel in distress is old hat even for GS. Let Polly be the one kidnapped and/or wrongfully convicted and thrown into jail instead!
This sounds interesting enough for Nick to get back to the courts or make a faster return, seeing as how he showed interest back in the end of AJ.
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Pierre: AAI-5 (though that was merely an arrest rather than a trial).
As for Trucy, damsel in distress is old hat even for GS. Let Polly be the one kidnapped and/or wrongfully convicted and thrown into jail instead!
As for Trucy, damsel in distress is old hat even for GS. Let Polly be the one kidnapped and/or wrongfully convicted and thrown into jail instead!
This sounds interesting enough for Nick to get back to the courts or make a faster return, seeing as how he showed interest back in the end of AJ.
Especially because he's returned to court to "fulfill a promise". Maybe the promise is "I'll get you out of here, Apollo!"
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Pierre: AAI-5 (though that was merely an arrest rather than a trial).
As for Trucy, damsel in distress is old hat even for GS. Let Polly be the one kidnapped and/or wrongfully convicted and thrown into jail instead!
As for Trucy, damsel in distress is old hat even for GS. Let Polly be the one kidnapped and/or wrongfully convicted and thrown into jail instead!
This sounds interesting enough for Nick to get back to the courts or make a faster return, seeing as how he showed interest back in the end of AJ.
Especially because he's returned to court to "fulfill a promise". Maybe the promise is "I'll get you out of here, Apollo!"
Yeah, it's been a year/twelve months/365 days since AJ, so something could have happened.
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Yeah, it's been a year/twelve months/365 days since AJ, so something could have happened.
That's why I'm not yet worried about Apollo's characters being ignored. They could have easily made it a couple of years after AJ but they chose just one year.
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Trucy: ...Soon. 
Kristoph's insertion in that statement sends a chill down my spine that only he could deliver... *shrugs*
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Kristoph's insertion in that statement sends a chill down my spine that only he could deliver... *shrugs*
I doubt we'll ever get any more info on Kristoph, (mainly because his story was wrapped up, it was just those black locks hiding why he did it but that's probably supposed to remain a mystery) but it would be awesome if we somehow found out more about what set his actions in motion.
Although AAI has shown us that the team does like to reference a bunch of stuff from the others, so the chance of getting more Kristoph in it is probably larger than if Takumi was in charge (I'm talking from the point of view of Takumi directing THIS game. If he was in charge now he might have wanted to continue Apollo's story directly. Although I also heard that he originally didn't want to do a GS4 and then when he did thought of it as the last game or his last AA game or something. There was some sense of finality about it.)
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I just hope, that he doesn´t get a screeching "Objection!" like his brother...
A super-confident Payne actually sounds kinda boring to me, let´s hope, Capcom makes something outta it.
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After seeing, that Payne´s brother will look almost exactly the same, I am not really sure, wether I can take him serious or not.
I just hope, that he doesn´t get a screeching "Objection!" like his brother...
A super-confident Payne actually sounds kinda boring to me, let´s hope, Capcom makes something outta it.
I just hope, that he doesn´t get a screeching "Objection!" like his brother...
A super-confident Payne actually sounds kinda boring to me, let´s hope, Capcom makes something outta it.
Payne was super confident until he encountered Mia. Then, she took his hair...and guts.
(So yeah, it can be done right.)
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I'd love to find out more about Kristoph's cool BLACK locks, shame that probably won't happen :(
If Kristoph is explored further, then only through flashbacks with people who knew him. Krissy himself is in jail and will stay there, just like Morgan.
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but it would be awesome if we somehow found out more about what set his actions in motion.
Jealousy. He was an egocentric individual. He thought his iterations of things were absolute. His mind inclined to there being "injustice" when a "cheap" attorney managed to take a high-profile case such as State Vs. Gramarye instead of him, the Coolest Defense on the West.
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Although AAI has shown us that the team does like to reference a bunch of stuff from the others, so the chance of getting more Kristoph in it is probably larger than if Takumi was in charge
This DOES take place a year after AJ, I doubt they'll forget about the man that messed with Phoenix's career and some of the Gramaryes.
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After seeing, that Payne´s brother will look almost exactly the same, I am not really sure, wether I can take him serious or not.
According to interview, he's supposed to be a Payne von Karma (Payne mixed with dirty tactics, aka, dark days for the law).
About the Black Psyche-Locks: I think we're supposed to forever theorize that they're locks so dark that no one can close them (or since Psyche-Locks are tied to human emotions, maybe it's tied to the darkest emotions in one's heart? Like jealousy).
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What if someone tried to kidnap Trucy to threaten against the "Wright Anything Agency" but Phoenix protected her and got injured. Trucy was then told by Phoenix to flee. Forcing the kidnappers to kidnap Phoenix instead.
And THEN WE CAN HAVE POLLY WITH EDGEWORTH SAVE THE DAY AHHAHA MY FANFIC TOTALY HAS NO CONNECTION TO PHOENIX AND EDGEWORTH BEING SPECIAL SOMEONE AHAHAH
(no really, I don't support the couple...but such a amazing friendship..but I do wish they would get teased a bit..kind of like Grossberg and Red White)
....okay I will shut up now.
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Payne Von Karma is appropriate, considering the who-dun-it of that case...
Wooster, now you making me scared the explosion actually *did* kill Trucy. Just saying.
He ain't Von Karma before he killed a beloved Family Member.
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Neni wrote:
If Kristoph is explored further, then only through flashbacks with people who knew him. Krissy himself is in jail and will stay there, just like Morgan.
They have a prison wedding conducted by Gant. Also the demon face in Kristoph's hand is Dahlia. Then they all form a Villain Voltron piloted by Payne Brother at the end of GS5.
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Neni wrote:
If Kristoph is explored further, then only through flashbacks with people who knew him. Krissy himself is in jail and will stay there, just like Morgan.
They have a prison wedding conducted by Gant. Also the demon face in Kristoph's hand is Dahlia. Then they all form a Villain Voltron piloted by Payne Brother at the end of GS5.
If Kristoph and Morgan married, wouldn't that make Klavier Pearl's Stepuncle...?
"Uncle Klavier, could you sing that song again, but insert Mystic Maya's and Mr. Nick's names, oh please?"...Why did my mind go there...?
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