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Well, since today is the Famitsu Article's 'actual' release date, there's a bit of a flurry of updates today, and incoming. Most obviously is that the Japanese Website has been updated. (Tip of the hat to GSFun) Personally, I find the screenshots of the Professor Layton gameplay most exciting. There's nothing quite like seeing caricatures of Maya and Luke giving mutual shrugs mid puzzle. And… is that a blond mini-Layton I see? Clearly I'm imagining things.
Anyways, the site has a character section. Currently the four protagonists and the defendant Mahone are listed with 3 extra blank slots. We're already aware of the Storyteller and the Knight Prosecutor, so who's that last character? Does Layton get a mustachioed rival?
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I haven't gotten a chance to really try and translate it, but it does say Phoenix and Maya will "challenge" puzzles as well. Presumably that means we'll getting to use them to solve puzzles too, and it doesn't just mean the little puzzle cameos.
Also, court now has a hint button in the lower-right during cross-examination.
And on Phoenix's gameplay page, it says he became Mahone's defense during a business trip to London, but was then swept into another world. Curiouser and curioser.
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Boy, I am sooo excited for this game, it looks great. Maya as a small figurine during a puzzle is so cute.
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HosoBoso wrote:
ツイッターでリプ貰いました。携帯版カプコンゲームショウ特設サイトでは、逆転裁判5ステージだけネット中継ありと書いてありません。あるのかないのか、カプコンに問い合わせメールしてみました。返事が来ましたらお知らせします。なおレイトン教授VS逆転裁判はネット中継ありと書いてあります。
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Also, court now has a hint button in the lower-right during cross-examination.
And on Phoenix's gameplay page, it says he became Mahone's defense during a business trip to London, but was then swept into another world. Curiouser and curioser.
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Bolt Storm wrote:
Also, court now has a hint button in the lower-right during cross-examination.
Oh? I guess I gotta try and avoid using that forever now. Kinda hope GS5 doesn't adopt a hint button.
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Layton: Say, this testimony reminds me of a puzzle!
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The hint button isn't needed though. We've got to do it the honorable Ace attorney way, by saving at important moments and then turning off the game. I guess that's just not gentlemanly enough for professor.
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Wooster wrote:
Phoenix: Grah! This testimony is solid! *Hits Hint Button* Hey Layton? Got any ideas?
Layton: Say, this testimony reminds me of a puzzle!
Phoenix:
Layton: Say, this testimony reminds me of a puzzle!
Phoenix:
+1
...that would actually be an interesting way to implement the hint system. As long as the puzzle itself doesn't give a hint (otherwise people might simply reset). Probably unrealistic though, because that would annoy players too.
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Bolt Storm wrote:
And on Phoenix's gameplay page, it says he became Mahone's defense during a business trip to London, but was then swept into another world. Curiouser and curioser.
Oh, I always assumed Mahone belonged to the "other world". So she's a British Lady.
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Phoenix: Hey wait a minute, this puzzle contradicts standard farming regulations! There's no reason each cow should be in a separate pen!
Layton: *tips hat down* Oh dear....
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Where it shows the picture of Phoenix objection pointing, it's a different courtroom than the Witch Trial one? So does this mean we will get an introduction/tutorial case at the beginning?
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Capcom and Level-5 present
A miraculous performance
Co-starring two great adventure game series!
Professor of archaeology Hershel Layton and attorney Phoenix Wright.
In the other world of Labyrinth City, the two of them will tackle
the unbelievable riddle of the book whose contents become reality
and the shocking witch trial aimed at executing the witch who summons fire...
[[Alternate controlling the 2 protagonists, and bring the story together!]]
Professor Layton
"Adventure" Part
[Mahone: But... if it finds me here too... you two will be...!]
The mysterious girl being pursued by a witch, Mahone
Layton aims to protect her
Phoenix Wright
"Trial" Part
[Phoenix: The answer to all this is right there!]
Taking on the defense of Mahone for a particular reason
Phoenix Wright, in the middle of a business trip to London
Through meeting Mahone, the two stories of Layton and Phoenix collide in Labyrinth city!
[Layton: Everyone, do you remember the way?]
[Phoenix: Looks like it... Mister Layton.]
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irishmarcoos wrote:
Did anyone else notice that on this page... http://www.layton-vs-gyakuten.jp/about/index.html
Where it shows the picture of Phoenix objection pointing, it's a different courtroom than the Witch Trial one? So does this mean we will get an introduction/tutorial case at the beginning?
Where it shows the picture of Phoenix objection pointing, it's a different courtroom than the Witch Trial one? So does this mean we will get an introduction/tutorial case at the beginning?
Hey, great find!
But it could also be a flashback to introduce Nick to Layton fans, since using the DS screenshots in-game would be unfitting.
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Sixth Pegasus wrote:
irishmarcoos wrote:
Did anyone else notice that on this page... http://www.layton-vs-gyakuten.jp/about/index.html
Where it shows the picture of Phoenix objection pointing, it's a different courtroom than the Witch Trial one? So does this mean we will get an introduction/tutorial case at the beginning?
Where it shows the picture of Phoenix objection pointing, it's a different courtroom than the Witch Trial one? So does this mean we will get an introduction/tutorial case at the beginning?
Hey, great find!
But it could also be a flashback to introduce Nick to Layton fans, since using the DS screenshots in-game would be unfitting.
This could be it. Although it would be cool if you could play a case in the "real world" before going off to "another world". Maybe Wright defends her in London and then through some weird thing her situation changes and suddenly its this fantasy setting.
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ADA McCoy wrote:
Sixth Pegasus wrote:
irishmarcoos wrote:
Did anyone else notice that on this page... http://www.layton-vs-gyakuten.jp/about/index.html
Where it shows the picture of Phoenix objection pointing, it's a different courtroom than the Witch Trial one? So does this mean we will get an introduction/tutorial case at the beginning?
Where it shows the picture of Phoenix objection pointing, it's a different courtroom than the Witch Trial one? So does this mean we will get an introduction/tutorial case at the beginning?
Hey, great find!
But it could also be a flashback to introduce Nick to Layton fans, since using the DS screenshots in-game would be unfitting.
This could be it. Although it would be cool if you could play a case in the "real world" before going off to "another world". Maybe Wright defends her in London and then through some weird thing her situation changes and suddenly its this fantasy setting.
That would be a good way to get the story rolling while still giving us a tutorial case. It makes me wonder though, we all know Phoenix can speak English fluently, but can Naruhodo? I imagine it would be pretty hard to defend someone in court unless you had complete mastery of the language. Hmm, I may be thinking about this too hard.
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Beautiful_Blue wrote:
That would be a good way to get the story rolling while still giving us a tutorial case. It makes me wonder though, we all know Phoenix can speak English fluently, but can Naruhodo? I imagine it would be pretty hard to defend someone in court unless you had complete mastery of the language. Hmm, I may be thinking about this too hard.
They'll probably just say he's fluent. Knowing multiple languages would be a great asset for a famous lawyer. He could have even picked up some English from Franziska (Who in the Japan version is American, I believe.) I could even see it where maybe his client only speaks Japanese, and hence is totally screwed with the legal system until Phoenix arrives to save the day.
I have no idea how they would localize that, though.
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Bolt Storm wrote:
Here's the relevant parts of the "About" page translated:
Capcom and Level-5 present
A miraculous performance
Co-starring two great adventure game series!
Professor of archaeology Hershel Layton and attorney Phoenix Wright.
In the other world of Labyrinth City, the two of them will tackle
the unbelievable riddle of the book whose contents become reality
and the shocking witch trial aimed at executing the witch who summons fire...
[[Alternate controlling the 2 protagonists, and bring the story together!]]
Professor Layton
"Adventure" Part
[Mahone: But... if it finds me here too... you two will be...!]
The mysterious girl being pursued by a witch, Mahone
Layton aims to protect her
Phoenix Wright
"Trial" Part
[Phoenix: The answer to all this is right there!]
Taking on the defense of Mahone for a particular reason
Phoenix Wright, in the middle of a business trip to London
Through meeting Mahone, the two stories of Layton and Phoenix collide in Labyrinth city!
[Layton: Everyone, do you remember the way?]
[Phoenix: Looks like it... Mister Layton.]
Capcom and Level-5 present
A miraculous performance
Co-starring two great adventure game series!
Professor of archaeology Hershel Layton and attorney Phoenix Wright.
In the other world of Labyrinth City, the two of them will tackle
the unbelievable riddle of the book whose contents become reality
and the shocking witch trial aimed at executing the witch who summons fire...
[[Alternate controlling the 2 protagonists, and bring the story together!]]
Professor Layton
"Adventure" Part
[Mahone: But... if it finds me here too... you two will be...!]
The mysterious girl being pursued by a witch, Mahone
Layton aims to protect her
Phoenix Wright
"Trial" Part
[Phoenix: The answer to all this is right there!]
Taking on the defense of Mahone for a particular reason
Phoenix Wright, in the middle of a business trip to London
Through meeting Mahone, the two stories of Layton and Phoenix collide in Labyrinth city!
[Layton: Everyone, do you remember the way?]
[Phoenix: Looks like it... Mister Layton.]
Thank you very much. Would you like to translate the system pages as well?
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Lusankya wrote:
Thank you very much. Would you like to translate the system pages as well?
(Excuse me if I make a mistake somewhere. I'm still practicing.)
Well, Prof. Layton and Luke just happened to be in London, during Nick's business trip there, and they meet with Mahone. It doesn't say when, where, or how they meet her; only that they do. The rest goes on about how to play; just like in the Layton games: explore around, investigate places, talk to people, and gather information. And given that it's a Layton game, EVERYONE including animals comes up with a puzzle from time to time.
The puzzle with Luke and Maya is one about placing mice in the right boxes. The second one is finding the correct shadow, and the third asks you which person is lying. It's those kinds of puzzles. Too bad there's nothing on the "special" ones we heard about before.
Apparently the trial system in Labyrinth City is called the "Mob Trial," where multiple people can appear on the stand at once. It can get pretty hectic when the witnesses can confer among themselves at will. I guess that explains why Nick might need help from Layton.
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Thing is, they never explicitly say Phoenix's London is Layton's London.
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Wooster wrote:
Woah… so the universes are united, before they enter Labyrinth City? Or rather, the AA universe and the PL universe are one in the same? Wow. Oh wow.
This can only mean that there is a totally out there but completely logical explanation for all the mystical elements in Ace Attorney. Layton will explain that channeling is actually the result of fumes from flowers that grow in Kurain village and hang on the mediums' clothes or something.
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Wooster wrote:
Woah… so the universes are united, before they enter Labyrinth City? Or rather, the AA universe and the PL universe are one in the same? Wow. Oh wow.
I wouldn't put to much faith in this excursion being canon bear in mind. Just because they share a London in this game doesn't mean they always do.
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Bolt Storm wrote:
I'm not sure I'd say that just yet - it just says that Mahone went looking for Layton's help and Phoenix's defense, and that Phoenix was on a business trip in London and wound up defending Mahone for a 'particular reason' before getting zapped into Labyrinth City. If you look on the about page, it looks like Mahone's in Layton's office at Gressenheller, and one of the screens on her character page make it look like she's in a car or something looking at a map.
Thing is, they never explicitly say Phoenix's London is Layton's London.
Thing is, they never explicitly say Phoenix's London is Layton's London.
That is true. At the same time, it would seem odd that they weren't in the same city. Why bother sending Nick to London if he and Layton were going to be sent to a new world altogether? And London is quite large itself, so there's no need to keep them in completely separate universes.
Of course, I didn't mean to imply that they would be meeting each other outside of Labyrinth City. On the other hand, we don't know the origins of Laby or how it connects to any London, so I could easily second-guess myself.
Just food for thought here. Your explanation is just as valid.
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Bolt Storm wrote:
I'm not sure I'd say that just yet - it just says that Mahone went looking for Layton's help and Phoenix's defense, and that Phoenix was on a business trip in London and wound up defending Mahone for a 'particular reason' before getting zapped into Labyrinth City. If you look on the about page, it looks like Mahone's in Layton's office at Gressenheller, and one of the screens on her character page make it look like she's in a car or something looking at a map.
It's kind of weird though. Mahone is in Layton's world to ask him for help, her art style clearly indicates she comes from Phoenix' world and her clothes are in line with a medieval world. :D
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Layton may have a habit of ending up in fictitious towns, but if time travel can be real then I don't see why spirit channeling can't be.
I was really just joking :P. Especially since I'm pretty sure this game isn't really going to be considered canon for either side anyway.
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This looks like a minigame of some sorts. PokéMiCe? Gotta catch 'em all (with cheese)?
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