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So let's discuss... GS5, I guess?
Will they torture us again with Maya barely existing? :larry: Will they actually give us the kind of friendshippy cameo we desire even briefly so we can die happy? Will they really return her to a major, secret role they're covering?


I really want Maya to be in this game. Really really really, but the fact that it's the Investigations team driving the bus has me a little worried. Especially this quote when they were asked about Maya's whereabouts:

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"Well, he she might be back at her home village for more training..."


That sounds to me like "We don't know where she is and we don't really care - but let us tell you about the new girl..."

I hope future details prove me wrong though. I honestly thought with the inclusion of Maya in both the Professor Layton crossover and Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom that it had kind of been cemented that where Phoenix goes, Maya's there too. Having the creators of GS5 be so dismissive about her whereabouts is disappointing.
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At the very least they could have her in the gallery. Even if Branch Hair is going to be Phoenix's new assistant it would make sense for Maya to watch. There's no way she'd be missing Nick's return!

Seriously, though. No Maya is extremely disheartening.
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I seriously think she will have a cameo or some sort in the new game.

I mean, she was his assistant, sorta. She's a precious character.

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I honestly thought with the inclusion of Maya in both the Professor Layton crossover and Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom that it had kind of been cemented that where Phoenix goes, Maya's there too. Having the creators of GS5 be so dismissive about her whereabouts is disappointing.


Nah, they just make that assumption about GS1-3Lawyer!Phoenix. Hobo!Phoenix and GS5!Phoenix are like a different character who spontaneously resets... And they look to their beloved precedent, 1-5. (No more cameos of those stupid people, please!)

To be honest we don't know exactly how the article was translated/questions really put. The denial might have been around why isn't Maya 'The Assistant'. But since they didn't give some more cryptic answer but laugh with a cop out 'she's just not there okay we couldn't be bothered deciding why' it seems less likely they're covering up some proper [other] role for her.
Also Yellow Person (who's probably a defense attorney) is unlikely to be The Magic Power Teen Assistant, she's the Tutorial co-council. It's probably yellow person's younger sister....

I expect the whole plot will be about rescuing Trucy and Apollo from Apollo's evil father, who happens to also be the leader of the Dark Forces of Justice Corruption. Or something along those lines :snackood: Ghosts don't exist in that arc, and that's all Maya is ever for, as 1-4 told us right?

But it's still being written. Once they've finished the main plot ('priority') they might have time to throw us a bone in cameos.

(Assistants are always 'in training'. They couldn't decide to break formula oh no. I guess Maya could hypothetically channel any ghost and wreak whatever havoc...)

I'm not sure how they'll explain getting rid of the magatama (which I give 85% bet is gone for 'fun new game mechanics'.) Anyone would keep a useful object like that even if it was from their worst enemy :gant: Of course if it's put back in that's a great place to 'introduce' Maya, right?

I'd consider its removal a downgrade in gameplay alone, I love those sequences irrespective of Maya's association.
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I don't understand why it's so hard to have some sort of continuity, surely when you come down to it writing new chapters in a game SERIES, continuity would have to be pretty important. I didn't understand why Maya wasn't mentioned at all in GS4. She didn't need to be in it, I get that. But why avoid mentioning her by name? That just seems weird to me. Same as how Phoenix was never mentioned by name in the AAI games. "That guy..." "An old friend..." We all know who they're talking about, why bother being so ambiguous? It wouldn't have detracted from the new characters or story at all.

They even went to the trouble of alluding to the fact that Phoenix and Maya were still in touch in GS4. How hard would it have been to mention her or Kurain? I just have a feeling that she's going to get overlooked in GS5 in the same way, which of course makes no sense.

I agree that translation could have been skewed and there's still so much to be revealed and I truly, honestly hope that I'm wrong about Maya being included in some way. Could someone jog my memory - did Phoenix use the magatama in GS4? Was he using it to win at poker or was that just a theory? All the indicators that the Feys are still in his life seemed to be there, even if I was looking for them with a magnifying glass. There were a pile of Steel Samurai DVD's when he was in the hospital too, right? (It's been so long since I've played GS4)

The way I look at it, there's no way we could play through three whole games with those two bumbling around one another and denying any serious feelings while they constantly contradict that with their actions, not to mention the use of Pearl to remind the player all the time of the potential between the two (once is a joke, but I think it went beyond that) without something actually solidifying after the disbarment. I think that's what has drawn me to the pairing and what gives me the impression that the bond between them is so enduring. She wouldn't abandon him and he wouldn't forget her. And if they try and make us believe that, it's terribly poor and/or lazy writing.
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I don't understand why it's so hard to have some sort of continuity, surely when you come down to it writing new chapters in a game SERIES, continuity would have to be pretty important.


There's an advertising video for GS4 showing a hallways of framed GS releases. 1-5 is shown AFTER GS3, like it's a separate game in chronological order. I'm not sure why they number them anymore because they aren't new chapters. You must have read this about Takumi discussing GS4. See entry 4.

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I didn't understand why Maya wasn't mentioned at all in GS4. She didn't need to be in it, I get that. But why avoid mentioning her by name? That just seems weird to me. Same as how Phoenix was never mentioned by name in the AAI games. "That guy..." "An old friend..." We all know who they're talking about, why bother being so ambiguous? It wouldn't have detracted from the new characters or story at all.


It's a 'policy'. One which should have been dropped. I mean Larry: "the blue suit guy".
It's way more confusing to new players to allude to them in those idiotic manners too!
I expect they'll bring back Apollo as a main, but if they DID just sweep it under the rug and vaguely metion 'that other red suit guy who's vanished forever no reason given' all those people claiming the absence of Maya Edgeworth etc didn't matter 'It's A New Game/Series!' might suddenly get it. :hobohodo:

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They even went to the trouble of alluding to the fact that Phoenix and Maya were still in touch in GS4.


That wasn't much trouble.... to be fair the whole game looked like it fell apart halfway through 4-3, like they ran out of time even to attend to the 'necessary' things. But haven't we been patient? Regina, Ema, Oldbag, Meekins, Maggey's fans have been rewarded with endless largely unnecessary cameos the last 50 games?

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I think that's what has drawn me to the pairing and what gives me the impression that the bond between them is so enduring. She wouldn't abandon him and he wouldn't forget her. And if they try and make us believe that, it's terribly poor and/or lazy writing.


I think they're so dumb they say "oh that characterisation is already written in another game so if we don't ever show her for 8 years players don't assume they inexplicably fell out but she's 'just not here today next week all year for some innocuous reason'". But people don't. They get upset, or they assume they fell out, because it's so contradictory to the previous games. It's telling the interview asked where she was (no one else by name).

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did Phoenix use the magatama in GS4? Was he using it to win at poker or was that just a theory?


Poker-magatama - fanon
MASON-Magatama - Canon
It's all rubbish though. 'I got it from A CERTAIN CASE'
And then there's the black psyche locks on Kristoph.
I assume it was brought back mostly to have some kind of actual gameplay mechanic for Phoenix in the MASON part. (Surely it wasn't shown to the jury!)
MASON is inexplicable in every way.
I think the Flashback Trial was inside the MASON? I forget.
It's so poorly written, I refuse to swallow MASON was any actual depiction of reality, even if the other events of GS4 aren't ignored. The game itself didn't seem to know what it was or when/if it was breaking the 4th wall. It was likely a Magic Blend of Supernatural Powers And Science (since Ema's spycam took the video feed and Phoenix's newfound dead mentor powers are manipulating computer code eg. the spirit realm akin to Mia in this 'new Fey-less arc')
"Think of it as a ..game." *hobo eyeevasion smirk while he's in front of binary*<direct quote

They probably think they can (semi)reboot every game now simply because they were 'allowed' to in GS4 and 1-5, except they don't go all the way and just call it a reboot/AU. If they did it wouldn't trouble anyone....

But when something has '5' written on it, you shouldn't have to write the game so it's targeted ONLY at 'new players'.

Disregarding any mention of shipping, their bond of 'friendship' IS unambiguous canon, so ignoring it when inconvinient is poor characterisation (to put it mildly). You can cast the trope as 'platonic life partners' or something, but you can't ignore it. The purported interview comment reminds me of this fanfic I read where the author wrote before it 'I couldn't be bothered dealing with Trucy in this fic so she's um AT MAGIC CAMP THE WHOLE TIME OKAY!'
Except this is supposed to be professional production...
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I'd love it if they had BOTH the magatama and Apollo's bracelet.
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It's a 'policy'. One which should have been dropped. I mean Larry: "the blue suit guy".
It's way more confusing to new players to allude to them in those idiotic manners too!


EXACTLY! A brand new player is just as likely to say "What blue suit guy?" as they are to say "Who's Phoenix Wright?" Seriously, whether they named them or not, the reaction from someone who has never played an Ace Attorney game is going to be identical. It's a stupid policy.

Re GS4, I really thought the game was a mess, and it's the only one I haven't re-played. It felt rushed, jumbled and disjointed and I know there are diehard Apollo fans out there, but he just didn't have the presence of Phoenix. Phoenix as a disbarred hobo floating about in the background completely overshadowed him which I think is a lot of the reason why huge Apollo fans don't like him. I rushed through the non Phoenix scenes, waiting for his parts and putting everything he said and did under a microscope for some trace of Maya or Kurain (but I am a hopeless romantic).

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I think they're so dumb they say "oh that characterisation is already written in another game so if we don't ever show her for 8 years players don't assume they inexplicably fell out but she's 'just not here today next week all year for some innocuous reason'". But people don't. They get upset, or they assume they fell out, because it's so contradictory to the previous games. It's telling the interview asked where she was (no one else by name).


Yeah, I get you. Basically we're supposed to remember how much they cared for each other and we don't need to see her to get that that's still the case. It would have been nice for them to indulge us a little though. I think you might be on to something though about them being asked why she wasn't the assistant as opposed to just where she is. There's every chance she'll be in there somewhere, hopefully.

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But when something has '5' written on it, you shouldn't have to write the game so it's targeted ONLY at 'new players'.


Agreed. 100%. If you're not going to be faithful to the source material in that you don't leave out important characters and relationships then I don't think you should be able to call it a sequel. How much of the audience are they expecting to be new players? Wouldn't it be wiser to reward the people who have loved the series from the beginning?

The loss of the magatama mechanic would be a terrible loss to the series as well.

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The purported interview comment reminds me of this fanfic I read where the author wrote before it 'I couldn't be bothered dealing with Trucy in this fic so she's um AT MAGIC CAMP THE WHOLE TIME OKAY!'


Oh dear, that's terrible. :payne:

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I'd love it if they had BOTH the magatama and Apollo's bracelet.


I think they could incorporate both nicely in different cases, but I can't see that happening.
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I do think Phoenix should at least show Apollo the Magatama though. What about if Apollo had to use that, and Phoenix uses the bracelet? So that would be a way of explaining both things to 'new' players?
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I do think Phoenix should at least show Apollo the Magatama though. What about if Apollo had to use that, and Phoenix uses the bracelet? So that would be a way of explaining both things to 'new' players?


The bracelet is pretty useless, I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't return.
Although I personally found it enjoyable, it had little to do with critical thinking, unlike cross-examining and breaking psyche-locks.
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I do think Phoenix should at least show Apollo the Magatama though. What about if Apollo had to use that, and Phoenix uses the bracelet? So that would be a way of explaining both things to 'new' players?


Maya can show up with the Magatama, all cameo and explaining problems solved. She was off recharging it in Kurain for however many cases happen first. Wasn't that simple, writers? This 'charging' accounts for whatever new features it might have.

This is probably contingent on whether the 'Alien Spacetime Rock' (which is what the yellow person's device won't be called) is for court only.

No bracelets if we don't play as Apollo. The point is only he can use it with his 'talent' anyway. To everyone else it's just a bracelet.
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Well, with the AAI team, you can't know.
Because well. AAI was crap, in my opinion. I mean besides Edgey's past ( You can't dislike Franny, now do ya?) and a bit of Kay, I didn't like it in one bit. (Okay maybe Lang a little. Maybe.)
I really didn't like the plot development, the character development, the too-much Anime style people(which seemingly are going to return in GS5, oh boy. Just one look on the new assistant has given me enough.) The references. Pretty much nada. (EXPECT FOR THAT PHOENIX\MAYA MOMENT, OKAY?)

...Okay, you get my point. I like Edgey and Kay and Franny and Phoenix\Maya.

ON ANOTHER HAND, we can clearly say that the AAI team ships P\M. I mean C'MON, this moment in AAI was pretty much the biggest hint we had for them two being a couple in all of the series, really XD So it might be good to us.

I find it super hard to believe Maya won't appear in GS5. I mean, it made sense she didn't appear in GS4, only mentioned- you know, the story WAS told from Apollo's PoV. When the game is told from Nick's POV, it will make much more sense for her to appear, at least by name, in the game. Apollo has no idea of a Maya whatsoever, but Nick... well, he certainly does. HE IS HER SPECIAL SOMEONE.

...Err, that was really crappy self-explanation. But. I think I've given my point.
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ON ANOTHER HAND, we can clearly say that the AAI team ships P\M. I mean C'MON, this moment in AAI was pretty much the biggest hint we had for them two being a couple in all of the series, really XD So it might be good to us.



LOL! I guess that could be true. The inclusion of them in the background of both games is a glimmer of hope anyway.

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I mean, it made sense she didn't appear in GS4, only mentioned- you know, the story WAS told from Apollo's PoV. When the game is told from Nick's POV, it will make much more sense for her to appear, at least by name, in the game.


Believe me, I'm clutching to that belief too. But the way they've shrugged off Maya's whereabouts in interviews already has me worried. Honestly, if they include Ema over Maya again, I think I'll scream.
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Well, with the AAI team, you can't know.
Because well. AAI was crap, in my opinion. I mean besides Edgey's past ( You can't dislike Franny, now do ya?) and a bit of Kay, I didn't like it in one bit. (Okay maybe Lang a little. Maybe.)
I really didn't like the plot development, the character development, the too-much Anime style people(which seemingly are going to return in GS5, oh boy. Just one look on the new assistant has given me enough.) The references. Pretty much nada. (EXPECT FOR THAT PHOENIX\MAYA MOMENT, OKAY?)

...Okay, you get my point. I like Edgey and Kay and Franny and Phoenix\Maya.


In terms of GK1, I thought it had potential as it was good at some things and poor at others. This was one reason I wanted to play GK2, I thought they might have improved the areas that were poor in GK1 as they seemed to be trying hard, you know?

-the actual case/s were boring. I just don't care about that smuggling ring or whatever it was. This is partly not their fault but because you're not a defense attorney there's always motivation in the main series, even in GS4, because you're always saving the life of some poor innocent person who's going to be punished for something they didn't even do as a scapegoat for the real murderer and this is a terrible injustice. Prosecution is just exacting vengeance... it won't bring the victim back.

-but what I liked about GK were seeing the (old) characters and exploring the 'world', like the freaky blue badger theme park and the yet more Steel Samurai insanity. SHOE IS STILL ALIVE AND LIVES ON A BARREL IN THE WILD WILD WEST! The 'upgrade' in graphics and game mechanics were wonderful. The new characters were mostly boring. I feel sorry for Kay the way they didn't give her believable emotional reactions/consequence in certain key revelations. Character abuse! It's their fault not hers. The flashback case with young Franziska and all was great just to see them all interacting (Edgeworth, Franzy, Gumshoe.) I've seen people complain about the Larry and Oldbag parts at the end, but they were one of the best parts of the game :will:

However, the P-M 'scene' was of course the highlight of the game. Which is a bit sad, me finding one tiny background picture and the cryptic conversation Edgeworth had near it way more exciting than much of the rest of the game.... People might say 'this is why Phoenix can't be in the (AAI, 'AJ2') game! Because even his background sprite takes the spotlight!' Um, no, it's not that that takes the 'spotlight' away, it's everyone thinking 'Why is Phoenix disbarred! Where were Maya and Edgeworth during GS4's supposed events and the '7 years' re: Phoenix!' etc. People are desperate to know, that's why they can't concentrate on other stuff.

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ON ANOTHER HAND, we can clearly say that the AAI team ships P\M. I mean C'MON, this moment in AAI was pretty much the biggest hint we had for them two being a couple in all of the series, really XD So it might be good to us.


Hmm no, I think that was more our interpretation. But, um, whoever invented Pearl's characterisation ships P/M. They do. Really. A lot. :pearl:
Let's hope they're still around now....

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I find it super hard to believe Maya won't appear in GS5. I mean, it made sense she didn't appear in GS4, only mentioned


No it didn't :P
I think you mean 'They could get away with it.'

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- you know, the story WAS told from Apollo's PoV. When the game is told from Nick's POV, it will make much more sense for her to appear, at least by name, in the game. Apollo has no idea of a Maya whatsoever, but Nick... well, he certainly does. HE IS HER SPECIAL SOMEONE.


"The person closest to me!"

The problem is, they get this idea they don't have to write that thing called 'continuity' any more. Due to them getting away with it in precedents. It's yet to be seen whether the AAI team decides to adhere to this idiotic attitude or not. We can't tell based on GK/2 with the weird way it was kept separate from Phoenix, Maya and the GS4 characters/incidents.
Maya 'has' to be there in any conceivable characterisation of Phoenix, UNLESS they decided to observe that the RESET button hit on April 29 2019 is still in play. GK/2 very deliberately smushed in before that, paranoid about avoiding that decision.

The two main areas people got disenfranchised with Phoenix GS4 were the inexplicable disabarring-hobodom and the 'active characterisation/relations reset'. Now that they've let Phoenix come back as a lawyer and placated us, they won't necessarily bother to fix up the other.
I can't imagine WHY, it's insane! You either officially deem it an AU/reboot, or you drop that inexplicable 'policy'. And it's remained in limbo since 2008 or so :sadshoe: And we still don't know.

It's pretty interesting Takumi is 'too busy' with PL vs PW. I hope THAT throws us a bone :kissy: Takumi really doesn't want to go near GS4 again, does he? At least, it looks like that. The game reads like his mid-life crisis so no wonder. Ghost Trick, on the other hand, is a nice happy game reversing peoples' deaths :)

I'm sure PL vs PW will throw us a bone. Friend-shippy ones anyway. I have high hopes! And I was thinking, with Level-5 translating not the usual, they might make it more shippy than otherwise as sometimes they do warp 'ambiguous' relationships like that to make them more 'interesting'. Well okay, it's unlikely.

Forget reality. If YOU were writing GS5, how would you put Maya in the game? Keeping with what we've seen/assumed of the game thus far (they're going to continue the GS4 plotstory in some level, I think, and the first case really seems to be the yellow person assisting with a new magic object). And that they wouldn't let you do something too explicitly 'romantic'...
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Forget reality. If YOU were writing GS5, how would you put Maya in the game? Keeping with what we've seen/assumed of the game thus far (they're going to continue the GS4 plotstory in some level, I think, and the first case really seems to be the yellow person assisting with a new magic object). And that they wouldn't let you do something too explicitly 'romantic'...


Just have the final case involve Kurain in some regard. Even if it couldn't be permanent, Maya would be the "assistant" again for the last case while Branch Hair is having whatever crisis befalls her for the climax and her big reveal. We'd get both our drama and our Maya back. Plus, saving her for the end makes it all the more rewarding to finally get there, even if she should have been in the whole time.
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Forget reality. If YOU were writing GS5, how would you put Maya in the game? Keeping with what we've seen/assumed of the game thus far (they're going to continue the GS4 plotstory in some level, I think, and the first case really seems to be the yellow person assisting with a new magic object). And that they wouldn't let you do something too explicitly 'romantic'...


Definitely a case in Kurain. (Let's just hope Maya isn't charged of murder again :payne: )
I think that a case in Kurain can show us Maya and teach us more about the village itself. It should be interesting too. I kinda agree with nevertalk- seeing Maya as the assistant once again would be awesome as well, but perhaps putting her on the witness stand would be okay too. I really want the case itself to occur there.
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Forget reality. If YOU were writing GS5, how would you put Maya in the game? Keeping with what we've seen/assumed of the game thus far (they're going to continue the GS4 plotstory in some level, I think, and the first case really seems to be the yellow person assisting with a new magic object). And that they wouldn't let you do something too explicitly 'romantic'...


Definitely a case in Kurain. (Let's just hope Maya isn't charged of murder again :payne: )
I think that a case in Kurain can show us Maya and teach us more about the village itself. It should be interesting too. I kinda agree with nevertalk- seeing Maya as the assistant once again would be awesome as well, but perhaps putting her on the witness stand would be okay too. I really want the case itself to occur there.
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Wow, someone wrote a whole illustrated Maya essay, read it.
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Wow, someone wrote a whole illustrated Maya essay, read it.
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Yes... Someone...
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That was me. :maya:
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Wow, someone wrote a whole illustrated Maya essay, read it.
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Yes... Someone...
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That was me. :maya:



I should have known.
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In all these years I have read all 138 pages in this topic. But I was/I am so shy and I'm not nglish... but I love Narumayo so much... can I join?



Of course you can join, let's celebrate our new member
* showers confetti*
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icer wrote:
Wow, someone wrote a whole illustrated Maya essay, read it.
http://askaceattorney.tumblr.com/post/3 ... his-one-if


Yes... Someone...
Spoiler:
That was me. :maya:


You know that awesome feeling when you hang in the same 10-meter-square with someone super-duper popular that you adore but will never talk to because you're too shy?
That's how I feel right now.
You , sir, are amazing.

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I've started writing a new Phoenix\Maya agnst fic. You guys give me sooo much motivation but school is a time-eater T_T.
I hope I'll get to finish it in the next two weeks, and publish it if I'll like it enough.
-whichIreallyhopeIwillbecauseit'sfreckingperfectinmyhead-
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but will never talk to


I see what you did there. But thanks, I'm not that amazing.

As well as others, I also did an essay on Phoenix, the other half the the only pairing worth pairing.
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"Well, he she might be back at her home village for more training..."


Let me reveal the ultra secret plot of GS5!
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M: NIIICK! I'm finally back! I've been training nonstop for EIGHT years just so I'd be powerful enough to help you out when you FINALLY became a lawyer again! (Do I get a sprite that's not 17 now?)
P: Oh, great Maya! Hey can you break black psyche locks now?
M: Of course! I'll upgrade the magatama now. Witness the power of my powers!

<<<BOOM>>>

Courthouse explodes

P: Uh oh. I think you need more training
M: B-but Nick...
Pearl: No Mr Nick! Don't you know what this means? Your whole 'reality' last year was just a computer simulation you were stuck in that Mystic Maya's powers overrode!
P: WHAT? Pearls, I think you've watched too many of Maya's TV shows
Pearl: BUT!
P: I know it's real, because this woman with a magical necklace said so! *brainwashed* (And she has a lawyer badge! *shiny*)
Maya: If you say so Nick. I still trust you *sob*. I'll go back to my cave and train for another year. (Maybe 2 in case there's GS6.) You'd better write reports about all the TV shows I miss again :(
P: Okay. Bye, Maya.
Pearl slaps Phoenix unconcious.
THE END

Already disproven though, the source of the explosion is pretty clear... :edgy: more should be revealed tomorrow! :ema-shock:
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As well as others, I also did an essayon Phoenix

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Phoenix threw himself under the bus all for the worst person in the series. He believed in his client until the bitter end, just the way Mia taught him. Unfortunately, she never taught him that some people just aren’t worth believing in.

What a tear jerker. Damn, if only I had time to read all 519 pages of that thing! Maybe I'll play GS4 again just to get this.
BlackWiddow wrote:
I've started writing a new Phoenix\Maya agnst fic. You guys give me sooo much motivation but school is a time-eater T_T.
I hope I'll get to finish it in the next two weeks, and publish it if I'll like it enough.
-whichIreallyhopeIwillbecauseit'sfreckingperfectinmyhead-

We await with baited breath :beef:
Speaking of Maya, do see this!
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After spending too much time on tumblr I figured we need a ship name. Like. Mayick. Or. Phonaya. I don't know.
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Argh trailer overload!
It's the PL vs PW trailer!
What the heck is going on? Maya grabs Nick's arm :)
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:pearl: "We take what we can get :P"
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icer wrote:
Argh trailer overload!
It's the PL vs PW trailer!
What the heck is going on? Maya grabs Nick's arm :)
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:pearl: "We take what we can get :P"


AHHHH CUTENESS OVERLOAD.

nevertalk wrote:
Because burger dress.


nevertalk, you are my hero. Really. You are. That was just amazing. Off to read your Phoenix essay.

BlackWiddow wrote:
After spending too much time on tumblr I figured we need a ship name. Like. Mayick. Or. Phonaya. I don't know.


LMAO!! I don't think I could do it to be honest. I'll always be partial to good ol' MayaxPhoenix :kissy: (I'm terribly amused that we are the only ones on CR with a shippy smilie).

icer wrote:
Maybe I'll play GS4 again just to get this.


As far as I'm concerned, Turnabout Cake is CANON.
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icer wrote:
Grey wrote:
In all these years I have read all 138 pages in this topic. But I was/I am so shy and I'm not nglish... but I love Narumayo so much... can I join?



Of course you can join, let's celebrate our new member
* showers confetti*

U-uh. Thank you... Ok, I'm shy, I think I'll don't talk at all XD

But here:
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I made it weeks agooo... But it's horrible XD
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I made it weeks agooo... But it's horrible XD

Aww, it's good. Is that GS5!Phoenix? Maya totally needs a Master tattoo. It's way better than the comic I didn't post.
And we have a confetti pic now too, sort of.
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Anyone seen the movie?

They made Maya way more serious and emo, but that was to be expected them switching the cases round like that. Straight after Mia's murder AND no closure in '1-2' the way of the games!

Spoiler:
the way she lunges for Redd White and Phoenix has to physically restrain her :)


So I am pleased they treated her character with respect instead of demoting her to a joke the way that seemed to happen in the Takarazuka (where she was just a pain that hung around with Larry and Phoenix abandoned looking for a beach or something, 'good riddance'. ) Because Maya is way more important than mere comic relief.
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Oh dear. I'm Feeling at home here. I almost cried when I saw that Nick will get a New Assistant, and nobody else seemed to care.

For a moment i thought about not buying this game, but then again i'm too curious if they'll mention her :(
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Grey wrote:
icer wrote:
Grey wrote:
In all these years I have read all 138 pages in this topic. But I was/I am so shy and I'm not nglish... but I love Narumayo so much... can I join?



Of course you can join, let's celebrate our new member
* showers confetti*

U-uh. Thank you... Ok, I'm shy, I think I'll don't talk at all XD

But here:
Spoiler:
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I made it weeks agooo... But it's horrible XD


The picture is not horrible - its very good and really cute! <3
Nick and Maya - Friends and Lovers....
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I wouldn't worry so much of Kidzuki Kokone. It's just a new attorney, and she's only 18. Ship them together would be nonsense. 16 years of difference are too much: and after all, Nick is a mature man now. He is not going to flirt with the teenagers girls anymore. Of course, I don't hate her but I must say that I REALLY miss Maya, and now she will not be anymore by Nick's side... well, this make me feel bad...
I hope at last Nick will remember her. And uh, I wonder if he still has her Magatama ...


Spoiler:
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It's my favorite!!
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The picture is not horrible - its very good and really cute! <3


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Aww, it's good. Is that GS5!Phoenix? Maya totally needs a Master tattoo.


Thank you!!! <3 :D
Yes he is GS5!Nick :)
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Uh... I have always been a fan of this precious couple... can I join?

I'm actually working on some fanarts to share!

icer wrote:
Anyone seen the movie?

They made Maya way more serious and emo, but that was to be expected them switching the cases round like that. Straight after Mia's murder AND no closure in '1-2' the way of the games!


Oh yes, I saw the movie, and the first thing I noticed was how different Maya was. But it's true, at least they treat her with respect...
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Grey wrote:
I wouldn't worry so much of Kidzuki Kokone. It's just a new attorney, and she's only 18. Ship them together would be nonsense. 16 years of difference are too much: and after all, Nick is a mature man now. He is not going to flirt with the teenagers girls anymore. Of course, I don't hate her but I must say that I REALLY miss Maya, and now she will not be anymore by Nick's side... well, this make me feel bad...
I hope at last Nick will remember her. And uh, I wonder if he still has her Magatama ...


Spoiler:
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Spoiler:
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It's my favorite!!


I love the second picture (with Nick looking at the watch/locket thing) <3
The close bond/ship they have is so sweet.
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Wow, The old Phoenix Maya Fanclub thread is still going after all these years? That is interesting.

Phoenix and Maya fan, you're still here too? Wow.

Don't mind me, I'm just an old soul checking out my old internet stomping grounds. Played Phoenix Wright in a pretend court case way back on page 12 on, back in 2008. I'm surprised this thread still exists.

Heh, I was such a fanboy. ^_^
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Zeon Twilight wrote:
Wow, The old Phoenix Maya Fanclub thread is still going after all these years? That is interesting.

Phoenix and Maya fan, you're still here too? Wow.

Don't mind me, I'm just an old soul checking out my old internet stomping grounds. Played Phoenix Wright in a pretend court case way back on page 12 on, back in 2008. I'm surprised this thread still exists.

Heh, I was such a fanboy. ^_^


Welcome back. You thought we'd stop shipping it?

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Uh... I have always been a fan of this precious couple... can I join?


Of course! (not sure why people ask permission, I bet I didn't :P)
*showers MORE confetti*

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Oh yes, I saw the movie, and the first thing I noticed was how different Maya was. But it's true, at least they treat her with respect...

Well it was obviously an alternate reality of some kind.... I still ship it though. Besides, maybe Tragic Maya got some new fans :-P

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Heh, no, shippers never die, I'm just surprised that this very thread is where all the PxM fans still gather on this site.

Of course, I'm one to talk, I used to be here all the time.

I just finally got done with the Miles Edgeworth game, so I'm back in town for at least until waiting for the next game drives me nuts.
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