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I'm afraid that sounds like it's just as likely to be 'characters that fit in the crime cases' rather than 'old chars happen to cameo.'
I have a feeling he's establishing that it's going to be different to AAI/2 where everyone and their dog of minor chars had a largely meaningless cameo, rather than hinting at the return of any old chars in particular.
And the 'promise' is almost certainly about Trucy not Maya I'm afraid. So continuity to GS4 means nothing to Maya since she was already down the Memory Hole.


I am hoping they'll find a way to make characters from the original trilogy relevant to the cases rather than just make them pointless cameos (I'm looking at you Ema Skye AAI Case 3). But if there's one thing I want to be done away with, it's that they should STOP BRINGING BACK MIKE MEEKINS! I mean I don't hate him but I'm annoyed that he keeps returning in place of characters that people actually like. If they find a way to make him more relevant to the game than someone like Edgeworth, Maya, or Apollo, I'm going to scream.

As for the promise, you're probably right considering this is a sequel to GS4 and also that Trucy's picture is in Phoenix's locket, pretty much confirming she'll be back. But I'm not sure why he'd have to become a lawyer again just to protect his daughter unless she was accused of some murder. Although the 'promise' could also refer to Apollo. If it does, it could give the Prosecutor Justice theory some support. Phoenix could be trying to get Apollo to "snap out of it" as Neni said in her explanation.

And as for PL vs AA, I just have one major complaint. Capcom doesn't want to localize it for us! We're not even sure Level 5 will either. First, AAI2, and now this? Does Capcom just hate non-Japanese Ace Attorney fans or something? :larry:


Hey I like Officer Meekins, I think he's adorable and funny. :wendy:
And at least in AAI I'll be able to see Ema again when she was still cheerful.
This is just a fan interpretation, (but if this is true I will cry.) the reason Edgeworth and Franziska didn't show up in AJ is because they were living in Europe at the time.
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But if there's one thing I want to be done away with, it's that they should STOP BRINGING BACK MIKE MEEKINS! I mean I don't hate him but I'm annoyed that he keeps returning in place of characters that people actually like. If they find a way to make him more relevant to the game than someone like Edgeworth, Maya, or Apollo, I'm going to scream.


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Gnobo wrote:
But if there's one thing I want to be done away with, it's that they should STOP BRINGING BACK MIKE MEEKINS! I mean I don't hate him but I'm annoyed that he keeps returning in place of characters that people actually like. If they find a way to make him more relevant to the game than someone like Edgeworth, Maya, or Apollo, I'm going to scream.


Agreed.
The only way I will accept that unhuman waste of game space is if he's the victim. AND STAYS DEAD. Some staffer must just love him or something. Even second he wasted in GS4 I just wanted to throw the game at the wall. And that megaphone screeching! And....


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As for the promise, you're probably right considering this is a sequel to GS4 and also that Trucy's picture is in Phoenix's locket, pretty much confirming she'll be back.


Or that could be 'her cameo taken care of' if they run it like AAI :hobohodo:

I'm afraid Prosecutor Justice sounds a bit too creative for the AAI writers. If AAI is any guide, especially with this their first GS game they'd be playing it safe rather than instigating new and 'controversial' character development. (However, they could decide their 3rd game gives them license to drop that approach). I hope the crimes/boss is better integrated than the one in AAI. I just didn't care about the crimes in that one. (The whole hypothesis is one of those things that 'should' happen, if the writers were actually being interesting. Apollo is bombing the courts, has fallen to the Dark Side in joining some anti-jury terrorist organisation, his wonderful Daddy Gant is now out of jail and returns to see his son, creating more trauma and angst....the world degenerates into even greater dystopic corruption... Phoenix regrets 'forging' the Jurist System....)
Instead something simple and boring with little thematic connection to GS4 will probably happen, as they will want to make it 'accessible to new players'
(Personally, If I'd written GS5, I would have made it more democratic by having more choice paths in the game akin to 2-4 and its Bad Ends, to try and placate the divided mess this fandom has been cast into by that polarising GS4 game.)

My tentative hypothesis is the Big Bad (or the decoy one) is endangering Trucy, and maybe the bomb was somehow affecting her. But they could just thrust Phoenix into a crime to which he has little immediate recognisable connection, like Edgey and AAI, and leave Phoenix's motives the mystery aka GS4 DESPITE HIM BEING THE MAIN CHARACTER. I hope not. Anyway we have almost nothing to go on.


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And as for PL vs AA, I just have one major complaint. Capcom doesn't want to localize it for us! We're not even sure Level 5 will either. First, AAI2, and now this? Does Capcom just hate non-Japanese Ace Attorney fans or something? :larry:


Yeah, I'm getting mad. People just sit around assuming it will happen or something. Meanwhile the alternate universe the Level-5 sits in will probably decide nobody wants it localised. 'We already have 99999999999999999999 Layton games already aren't they happy?' 'Oh we didn't think there was any fan demand!'
Anyway the L5I site seems to list a Layton game released in Oct or Nov of both 2011 and 2012, so this better be The Layton Game for 2013, I hope there isn't another first in the pipeline...
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Instead something simple and boring with little thematic connection to GS4 will probably happen, as they will want to make it 'accessible to new players'


Which would make the title "Ace Attorney 5" rather meaningless. If the story does not continue the story of the previous games and would rather focus more on bringing in new players (and apparently forgetting about the old fans) why not make this a reboot?
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Instead something simple and boring with little thematic connection to GS4 will probably happen, as they will want to make it 'accessible to new players'


Which would make the title "Ace Attorney 5" rather meaningless. If the story does not continue the story of the previous games and would rather focus more on bringing in new players (and apparently forgetting about the old fans) why not make this a reboot?


Precedent
GS3 -> GS4 :sadshoe:

Direct sequels (GS2, GS3, GK2) were always made 1-2 years later.
GS4 arguably was a reboot.
Who knows what this is
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You guys are making me fear for the day that GS5 comes out. :larry:

And that fanart of Phoenix and Maya in bed is awesome btw. :edgy:
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You guys are making me fear for the day that GS5 comes out. :larry:


Yeah, it's hard to think positively about GS5. But I try to think of the possibility that we could all be wrong, and it'll be everything we wanted. I even added the GS5 curl to Phoenix's hair in my symbol because I'm hoping for a revival of Phoenix and Maya's relationship in the game. So regardless of all this speculation, I'll definitely buy it when it comes out. :phoenix:
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Emiko Gale wrote:
You guys are making me fear for the day that GS5 comes out. :larry:

And that fanart of Phoenix and Maya in bed is awesome btw. :edgy:


Set your sights low, and you won't be disappointed!
Or at least mitigate damage.....

I waaaaant PW vs PL :nixiesob:
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icer wrote:
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You guys are making me fear for the day that GS5 comes out. :larry:

And that fanart of Phoenix and Maya in bed is awesome btw. :edgy:


Set your sights low, and you won't be disappointed!
Or at least mitigate damage.....

I waaaaant PW vs PL :nixiesob:


My expectations for GS5 are already low, since I don't know what to expect except Phoenix restored to his former glory and a new sidekick.

I want PW vs. PL as well, mostly for more Phoenix and Maya action and courtroom action. I never played Professor Layton though.
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Emiko Gale wrote:
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You guys are making me fear for the day that GS5 comes out. :larry:

And that fanart of Phoenix and Maya in bed is awesome btw. :edgy:


Set your sights low, and you won't be disappointed!
Or at least mitigate damage.....

I waaaaant PW vs PL :nixiesob:


My expectations for GS5 are already low, since I don't know what to expect except Phoenix restored to his former glory and a new sidekick.

I want PW vs. PL as well, mostly for more Phoenix and Maya action and courtroom action. I never played Professor Layton though.


I want to get PLxAA for the Ace Attorney part of the game, because with Professor Layton, even though I got Last Specter, I couldn't stay invested with the series. I also want to see Phoenix and Maya who haven't been main characters together for SIX YEARS. But the one thing that bugs me is that any sort of development to their relationship is completely self-contained because the game is only a noncanon crossover.

However, the best part of the game, in my opinion, is that Shu Takumi is the one writing the story, giving us assurance he'll treat his characters right. So we could see more of how he treats PxM...if we'll even get the game outside Japan. I'm hoping E3 will give us an official announcement! :maggy:

*edit: Just re-read the AA wiki, Takumi actually wasn't in charge of the script for the game. Wierd...
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Gnobo wrote:
But the one thing that bugs me is that any sort of development to their relationship is completely self-contained because the game is only a noncanon crossover.


Why is it 'non-canon'?
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icer wrote:
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But the one thing that bugs me is that any sort of development to their relationship is completely self-contained because the game is only a noncanon crossover.


Why is it 'non-canon'?


Are you asking me or are you suggesting it IS canon? This is certainly news to me! :ema-shock:

I only thought it wasn't because it was a crossover and I couldn't see where it could fit in the AA timeline. If it is canon, when does it take place?
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I remember...and I don't even have investigations yet. (I want this game so bad it's not funny.) Kind of looked like Phoenix was proposing to Maya. >.<


Oh yeah, 100% 'legitimate' :edgy:
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If there's at least a little glimmer of hope for the old characters, we at least know Yamazaki wants to put in old characters who are "not only popular, but who also fit into the story without feeling forced or awkward." Kind of a vague statement, but it at least gives us some hope for a continuation of the old story while also creating a new one.

I'm afraid that sounds like it's just as likely to be 'characters that fit in the crime cases' rather than 'old chars happen to cameo.'
I have a feeling he's establishing that it's going to be different to AAI/2 where everyone and their dog of minor chars had a largely meaningless cameo, rather than hinting at the return of any old chars in particular.
And the 'promise' is almost certainly about Trucy not Maya I'm afraid. So continuity to GS4 means nothing to Maya since she was already down the Memory Hole.

I'm hanging out for PW vs PL :sadshoe:

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That fanart of Nick and Maya in bed is AWESOME, its so sweet! ^^
I cant believe Capcom doesnt want to localise PLvAA, this had BETTER come to the UK, it was one of my reasons for getting a 3DS!
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Oh, hello guys. Look, I decided to try something new, to all of you. Since the translations I made are for my fellows in spain, I don't have too much to offer to you.
But as it turn out, my people also have fanfics that you could not posibly read because their in spanish so I made this to all of you.
A translation of the very first fic I ever read. In the world. So this really is something special.
Not to mention that I read it on a very singular day. It was somwthing exiting as I remember.
O well, here it is.

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/8947379/1/I ... r-too-late

I... never try to do translation in english, and is harder that it look.
And I'm sure as hell that is not a perfect translation.
So if a commited a mistake let me know please, and if you like it let me know, so I can continue.
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Héctor Power wrote:
Oh, hello guys. Look, I decided to try something new, to all of you. Since the translations I made are for my fellows in spain, I don't have too much to offer to you.
But as it turn out, my people also have fanfics that you could not posibly read because their in spanish so I made this to all of you.
A translation of the very first fic I ever read. In the world. So this really is something special.
Not to mention that I read it on a very singular day. It was somwthing exiting as I remember.
O well, here it is.

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/8947379/1/I ... r-too-late

I... never try to do translation in english, and is harder that it look.
And I'm sure as hell that is not a perfect translation.
So if a commited a mistake let me know please, and if you like it let me know, so I can continue.


Lovely fanfic, I nearly teared up. And Franziska was adorable in this fanfic. There were a few grammar errors though.
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Héctor Power wrote:
Oh, hello guys. Look, I decided to try something new, to all of you. Since the translations I made are for my fellows in spain, I don't have too much to offer to you.
But as it turn out, my people also have fanfics that you could not posibly read because their in spanish so I made this to all of you.
A translation of the very first fic I ever read. In the world. So this really is something special.
Not to mention that I read it on a very singular day. It was somwthing exiting as I remember.
O well, here it is.

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/8947379/1/I ... r-too-late

I... never try to do translation in english, and is harder that it look.
And I'm sure as hell that is not a perfect translation.
So if a commited a mistake let me know please, and if you like it let me know, so I can continue.


It was pretty good. Wow, Franziska got angry enough to whip blood out of Nick! But...*sniff* will Nick ever admit his true love to Maya?! :larry:
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Gnobo wrote:

Are you asking me or are you suggesting it IS canon? This is certainly news to me! :ema-shock:

I only thought it wasn't because it was a crossover and I couldn't see where it could fit in the AA timeline. If it is canon, when does it take place?


Why wouldn't it be 'canon'? If it isn't, then neither are GS4 and certainly not GS5 (which isn't even by Takumi). You can't just arbitrarily decide some plotstory-based games WRITTEN BY TAKUMI are canon and some aren't. (The context of appearances in things like UMvC3 and SNK vs Capcom Cardfighters is understood...)

Maya says 'Zvarri' so I guess it's after 3-2 at least.

Anything they both appear in contributes to the concept of their 'relationship' anyway, regardless of the 'mess' a linear distinct timeline might be. Takumi considers them the same characters, even if the exact connection to the other games is undefined. In his head he's just manifesting the 'relationship' between them in whatever setting.

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http://www.fanfiction.net/s/8947379/1/It-s-never-too-late

Oh, thanks for doing this :larry:
There's more chapter/s, right?
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icer wrote:
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http://www.fanfiction.net/s/8947379/1/It-s-never-too-late

Oh, thanks for doing this :larry:
There's more chapter/s, right?

Yes, But the next chapter is going to take a bit more; is larger. And I need a rest 'cuz I never though how draining it was to translate into english.
But don't worry is going to be ready in this week.
Oh well, I glad you liked.
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That fanart of Nick and Maya in bed is AWESOME, its so sweet! ^^
I cant believe Capcom doesnt want to localise PLvAA, this had BETTER come to the UK, it was one of my reasons for getting a 3DS!


Yeah, isn't it nice :edgy:

I think PL vsPW wasn't so much Capcom's 'decision', Level-5 probably claimed ownership in the West or something rather than allowing Capcom USA the rights on a Layton game. Remember how when the game was announced in 2010 or so Capcom US TOLD us all post on their Capcom-Unity site we wanted it? But I can only assume Level-5 US decided it takes precedent over the game due to owning Layton, so if there was a pitch by Capcom US to the rights in the West (with our 'fan feedback' as support? there must have been a reason to actively get it) it was denied. THEORETICALLY Capcom has/will granted Level-5 the 'right' to localise and market the game in the West. But we don't know what actually went on between Capcom US and Level-5 International. And they're unlikely to tell us. I sent a polite enquiry to L5I about PL vs PW through their site feedback form a few months ago and got a reply of NOTHING AT ALL not even a spam form letter so you can see they're great at PR. Or maybe they don't consider me a customer since I don't live in USA.
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Guess we'll have to wait and see what happens. I dont understand the logic, Layton is popular over here, and with this game PW may also gain more/new fans.
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http://www.fanfiction.net/s/8947379/2/I ... r-too-late
New and last chapter of this little fic. Yes, around the 5000 is considered little to me.
You know, this fic is really special to me, almost as this pairing. But right now I not going to bore you all by telling my story. Just enjoy.
And one day I may tell you the my story.
PS: As alwas, please tell me if I did a good job, preferably by telling me the grammar errors.
PS2: I don't have to many things to translate into english, sorry.
PS3: Visit the page 11 of this club to check all my PxM fanarts based on fanfics and the comic version of the first chapter of the fic writen by Justis76 'hungry'(In spanish... i'm sorry)
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PS3: Visit the page 11 of this club to check all my PxM fanarts based on fanfics and the comic version of the first chapter of the fic writen by Justis76 'hungry'(In spanish... i'm sorry)
Auto PS: those fanarts need to be re-done.

I think I will die of happiness.
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Héctor Power wrote:
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/8947379/2/It-s-never-too-late
New and last chapter of this little fic. Yes, around the 5000 is considered little to me.
You know, this fic is really special to me, almost as this pairing. But right now I not going to bore you all by telling my story. Just enjoy.
And one day I may tell you the my story.
PS: As alwas, please tell me if I did a good job, preferably by telling me the grammar errors.
PS2: I don't have to many things to translate into english, sorry.
PS3: Visit the page 11 of this club to check all my PxM fanarts based on fanfics and the comic version of the first chapter of the fic writen by Justis76 'hungry'(In spanish... i'm sorry)
Auto PS: those fanarts need to be re-done.


Aw man, that ending. It was wonderful! :acro: Although I do wonder what will happen to Kurain now?
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I made a sad thing, guys.

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I made a sad thing, guys.

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Is this from Turnabout Sisters or after Nick's disbarment? I noticed he's not wearing his badge here. Either way, this is really good!
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:larry: that picture breaks my heart.
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Is this from Turnabout Sisters or after Nick's disbarment? I noticed he's not wearing his badge here. Either way, this is really good!


After the disbarment. The end of an era.
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Is this from Turnabout Sisters or after Nick's disbarment? I noticed he's not wearing his badge here. Either way, this is really good!


After the disbarment. The end of an era.


It may have been the end of Nick's lawyer era, but it never ended the era of his relationship with the one he holds dearest to him. If anything, it could be considered a strengthening of it. Nick was always there to save Maya whenever she was accused of murder, kidnapped, or on the brink of death. Now it's him who needs a shoulder to lean on, and who better than Maya to rush to his aid when the news breaks.

I love how this picture not only shows the sadness at the loss of Nick's badge, but also that ever-strong loyalty Maya has to Nick when he's in need the most. Maybe that's why you made the shot look reminiscent of Turnabout Sisters. Just as Maya desperately needed help after Mia's death, Nick needed someone to comfort him after his dedicated career was unexpectedly taken away from him.
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So I was reading this article
http://www.kotaku.com.au/2012/12/the-se ... epressing/

Eh sorry, I can't stand the Takarazuka, I can't think of that person as Phoenix but a blond haired spikeless female alt-universe clone. However....

"This crushing loss makes the Phoenix Wright of Truth Resurrected Again a fundamentally broken (though quite interesting) version of the character. While not an unlikable person, he has nonetheless become pessimistic and jaded with the profession of law and is looking to retire. Though three years have passed, Phoenix has still not come to terms with his loss. Despite his loss of drive, Phoenix is still as good as he ever was — as a lawyer and a person. This Phoenix is focused, smart, and able to spot contradictions without a moment’s thought. Yet when Maya is kidnapped, his aversion to losing yet another of his loved ones practically makes him into the villain, with only Edgeworth standing between him and letting a murderer go free.

This darker take on a broken and haunted Phoenix is an interesting exploration of the character, but long time fans may hate this depressing take on a usually upbeat character."


Eh, I WOULDN'T :gant:

But

"Bad — Needless Attempt at a Love Story
The weakest part of the whole performance is the semi-love story between Phoenix and his teacher’s daughter. While giving Phoenix a potential love interest is in no way a bad thing (I mean, look at the last musical), the problem with their relationship is that it never has a possibility of going anywhere. This Phoenix is still so attached to Leorna that he still has nightmares about her in addition to constant flashbacks. His only potential attraction to the teacher’s daughter is that she reminds him of Leorna when she was young. And while this young woman idolizes and fawns over Phoenix, he is clearly uninterested in falling for the knock-off of his one true love. Thus, despite the significant time we spend on the two of them, there is never even the possibility of a romantic payoff — making the whole subplot feel like a waste of time.:"


YES, A STUPID WASTE OF TIME. *Pearl slap*

So what we need is a non-Director's Cut fanfic of a 'darker' version of 2-4 with Maya as the love interest. Not this one.
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What the heck did I just read? O_o

And a musical? For Phoenix Wright?! (I love musicals but this strikes me as odd)
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Well that was...interesting

I guess it looks ok to me. The costumes look pretty good, and I like how they replicate the games' sprites with those poses. I especially like how Edgeworth and Franziska look here.
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http://tegaki.pipa.jp/149899/23202437.html

This is something to do with PL vs PW.

Wish I could read all the text....
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icer wrote:
http://tegaki.pipa.jp/149899/23202437.html

This is something to do with PL vs PW.

Wish I could read all the text....


...FEELS! Why must the Japanese P/M fans be such geniouses, it makes me jealous. :c
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Oh guess what.

IT'S VALENTINES DAY!

Discuss. Because, um, shipping. P/M. Valentines. Etc. :pearl:
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icer wrote:
Oh guess what.

IT'S VALENTINES DAY!

Discuss. Because, um, shipping. P/M. Valentines. Etc. :pearl:


For me it's not valentine's day yet...I wanted to make a fanfiction for my fellow P/M fans but I couldn't get the creative juices flowing. :( But for my fellow Phoenix/Edgeworth fans I managed to make an AU P/E fic, that also features Dahlia/Iris...And it was also my first time writing a homosexual romance...and an incest romance. ^^; I just got to check for grammar errors and type it up.

But anyway, happy v-day to my fellow Phoenix/Maya fans, and to all the lovely people at court-records. *blows kiss*
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Feel like drawing some PxM fanart, but I'm feeling a little tired right now. Maybe a little sleep will help (besides I gotta get up for school in about 5 hours).

Happy Valentines Day! May you all have a wonderful time with your "special someone" today! :pearl-blush:
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Well this one is topical:
http://phoenix-and-maya.deviantart.com/ ... -354180586


not to mention
http://thepinkiest.deviantart.com/art/T ... -346786826
http://sakudrew.deviantart.com/art/I-wi ... -349529700
http://www.deviantart.com/art/Baby-I-m-back-325660968
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icer wrote:


Oh my god! Those are awesome! *o* I nearly died from amazement because the picture with Maya and the chocolate Nick and that picture with Older Nick and Master Maya talking while all the kurain girls watch. I can totally see those two happen in the cannon. :3
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icer wrote:


I made my own AA5 art too.
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Not P/M, but there's a hand on the shoulder. That counts for something.
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icer wrote:


I made my own AA5 art too.
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Not P/M, but there's a hand on the shoulder. That counts for something.


Franziska! :D And seeing Nick and Maya together again is awesome. :pearl:
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