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So far,seems pretty good.
My 2 main concerns are the chronological order of the cases,and Phoenix's rookie attitude.
I really hope that case 3+ will be in chronological order,and that Phoenix will regain atleast some of the self-confidence he had in AJ.
Other than that,game seems solid,though I don't really like the Heart Scope theme or whatever it is that played during the HS segment of the trailer.

I wouldn't be too concerned. It's already obvious now that case 2 comes before case 1, chronologically. And in case 2, when you play as Apollo, Phoenix is back to his composed GS4 self.

Spoiler: Yes, Your Honor, I do have evidence
The cases
Point 1: Apollo is the victim of the courtroom bombing, seen with that jacket. In case 2, he doesn't have the jacket, which supposedly is from someone close. But more importantly,
Point 2: From the Nico Kaiga trailer, he's shown investigating the same room that Phoenix had been (from the TGS demo). When Phoenix and Kokone investigate it again, the window is still open, and there are shoeprints on it by then. Phoenix even recognizes Barashima as the "guy who was responsible for the bombing". (How he got out of jail at all is in question.)

Phoenix's attitude
Point 1: According to the Nico Kaiga trailer, Apollo meets with Phoenix in the Wright Anything Agency at some point during a case. There's no sign of Nick's nervous tics (well, they are out of court, but during Apollo's pre-trial scene, he acts the same anyway).
Point 2: Phoenix comments repeatedly to himself before his first trial. He's rather annoyed by why he's still nervous about this kind of thing, even after so long. (Given that Kokone is a newbie here, it's part of the joke that he's more nervous than she is. I don't see it being much more than this, really.)


Well, I can't say much about the Heart Scope that we don't already know, but I think it's cool. Seeing the defendant's relieved face once the noise level dropped was a nice touch.
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Ah,I didn't mean the actual Heart Scope mechanic,but the musical theme that played during the little bit with it.
The heart scope itself seems decent enough so far so I don't really have any complaints about it.

Well,I dunno about how composed Phoenix is in case 2,but in case 1 which comes afterwards he's pretty damn nervous.
Even though he's self-aware of that,I just hope it ends there.
Hopefully it's just a first case thing that'll be over with by the end of the trial.

Also,I know it's obvious that case 2 comes before case 1 but what I meant was that I hope the rest of the cases come in chronological order.
I don't want it to end up like AAI,with the first case being fourth chronologically.
I didn't like it,it felt like a desperate attempt at creating tension:|
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I find it somewhat humorous that Phoenix didn't show any signs of nervousness at all during his trap of Kristoph in 4-1, despite the fact that he had so much more to lose there, and so many more things could have gone wrong(forged evidence might have been spotted, Apollo might not have cooperated, the trial might have gone in a completely different direction, Apollo might have screwed up horribly, etc.).

Right now, I'm somewhat torn between trying to figure out if 5-1 comes after 5-2 or not. While it would make a lot more sense for Apollo to be normal early on and then spend the rest of the game trying to be Raiden, I was under the impression that Kokone came to Phoenix to help save her sister, and then she joined the agency from there. Also, if the bomb goes off in case 2 (assuming case 2 is a prequel), it would be hard for Jin to be the main prosecutor as well, considering that he would have been in the courtroom as well.

Dunno. Maybe we've assumed too much about Apollo's injury at this point. It could be that he suffered the injury outside of the courtroom. After all, considering how much of the courtroom was blown up, there's no way he should be in anywhere near as good shape as he is.

I was kind of hoping that Phoenix's motivation for becoming a lawyer again was to save Apollo from becoming the evil prosecutor type...but that doesn't seem super likely now, and it's impossible if 5-2 takes place before 5-1, since Phoenix already has his attorney's badge by then.
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Ah,I didn't mean the actual Heart Scope mechanic,but the musical theme that played during the little bit with it.
The heart scope itself seems decent enough so far so I don't really have any complaints about it.

Oh, then you mean the new "Pursuit" theme, or at least what it seems to be. No confirmation yet.

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Right now, I'm somewhat torn between trying to figure out if 5-1 comes after 5-2 or not. While it would make a lot more sense for Apollo to be normal early on and then spend the rest of the game trying to be Raiden, I was under the impression that Kokone came to Phoenix to help save her sister,

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and then she joined the agency from there. Also, if the bomb goes off in case 2 (assuming case 2 is a prequel), it would be hard for Jin to be the main prosecutor as well, considering that he would have been in the courtroom as well.

Ah, but remember that it was an early evacuation, so no one was within the blast. Apollo received his injury when he saved Shinobu from falling rubble; and that could have come after the bomb went off. Jin was nowhere to be seen then, but it's assumed that he escaped just fine.

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How Apollo got his bandages:

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http://court-records-net.tumblr.com/post/48972815227/apollos-bandages-revealed

"Blogger hoso_boso was on-scene at the Nico event to play the new demo, and it reveals the truth behind Apollo’s bandages. This may be considered a spoiler, so it’s under a cut.

As many have suspected, Apollo was the defense in the trial that was attacked. More than that, though, when Shinobu was about to be crushed by a piece of falling rubble, Apollo pushed her out of the way and took the blow himself. He’s only just been released from the hospital at the start of case one, which is why he lets Phoenix defend Shinobu in court.

In the earlier demos, Shinobu’s savior was a generic security guard."

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They showed off a bit more of the demo on NicoNico tonight, including the first cross-examination.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5tJ5qQN6vY
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They showed off a bit more of the demo on NicoNico tonight, including the first cross-examination.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5tJ5qQN6vY


Well...

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It's looking to be amazing. I'm quite surprised that AA3's Objection theme is the erm.. Objection theme here.Will Apollo have a remade version of his Objection? Who knows.
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They showed off a bit more of the demo on NicoNico tonight, including the first cross-examination.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5tJ5qQN6vY

Who's doing subs? I'm available again~

Edit: Sorry for double-posting.
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Spoiler: Starting from where I left off
???: .........
Y: Witness, your name and occupation.
B: Name -> Shingo Barashima
Occupation -> Riot Squad Bomb-Disposal Unit
What!? Is that the sound of a machine?
B: "Keyboard Input" = "Voice Synthesis". It is the same as with normal speech.
J: Hm... what a troublesome witness.
Y: He is the one who disposed the bomb from this case, and witnessed the explosion.
First, please testify about the circumstances around the moment of the explosion.

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Witness Testimony
- Time of the Bombing -

B: I deactivated the bomb and brought it into court as evidence.
Name of Bomb = HH-3000 Remote-controlled & timed (double-compatibility)
I saw it from the courtroom gallery. It surprised me.
I saw that the timer on the bomb already began countdown.

J: Hm, HH-3000. It's this bomb, right?
Well, it's stuffed inside this doll, so you can't really see it.
P: After you deactivated the bomb switch, did you place it back inside?
B: That is correct. The time switch of the HH-3000 is simple to activate.
Anyone would know how to use it, even a monkey... and of course, the defendant.
J: Well then, Mr. Wright, your cross-examination, please.
P: ("Cross-examination"! That's right, here's where the trial really begins!)
K: Wow! Oh, goodie! Mr. Wright is showing his true self!
Please show us that "strikes fear into the hearts of men" kind of guy!
P: Hmph, leave it to me! (It's time for the cross-examination again...)
(Oh, should I first explain how it goes to her...?)
*choose no*
(No, I can't explain everything in a cross-examination to her.)
(It'll be fine! I'll just show it to her instead!)
Alright, let's begin the cross-examination!

Cross Examination
- Time of the Bombing -

*1st statement* Hold it!
P: Deactivated... Are you sure about that?
B: There is no mistake about it. I deactivated it by hand. In an instant as such!
P: No, no! Deactivation goes beyond just taking it apart!
B:
Y: Hee, hee, hee. Mr. Wright, with the proper materials...
a demolition expert would know exactly how to deactivate a bomb.
P: (Figures, he wouldn't forget to deactivate it.)
Could you tell us more about the bomb in detail?
B: Understood.

*4th statement* Objection!
P: You saw the timer begin countdown... is this true?
B: Certainly. The timer was definitely approaching zero bit by bit!
P: Mr. Barashima... You're lying!
B: W-what are you saying?
P: You couldn't have seen the timer.
After all, the bomb was inside this doll.
B: !
P: Mr. Barashima! How did you know the bomb was going to explode?
It was impossible to see the timer!
B: Ggh... T-that is...
K: As expected of Mr. Wright!
You found the contradiction straight away!
P: Well, kind of. (Nailed it!)
(Okay! I'm just about settled. Things are looking good.)
J: Well done, Mr. Wright! You really have returned to "striking fear into the hearts of men"!
At that time, I just remembered. Those days when a legend was just born...
those days when you tore through this court with your intimidating bluffs.
P: ...Hearing it like that, it makes me sound like a terrible person...
J: Witness! What do you have to say about this contradiction in your testimony?
B: Um, um, well... indeed...
Ah! That's it! I remembered now.
...The sound! I knew it by the sound!
The bomb has a time switch, so it was the sound of the timer.
It was a "Beep-beep-beep-beep". The sound of the countdown.
J: I see. In that case, it could still have been heard from inside the doll.
B: I was a bit mistaken. My apologies.
P: N-no way! (Things are looking bad...)
Y: Well then. Next, we will here from the defendant how she was immediately detained.
J: Very well. Witness, please come up to the stand.
S: .........

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Screw subs, I've got audio transcript!

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Screw subs, I've got audio transcript!

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GOTCHA! :odoroki: I just noticed something, could be confirmation case 2 is a flashback.
In the TGS stage show presentation:
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The date of Phoenix and Kokone finding the bomb is 12/20

In the NicoNico Demo :
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The date of case 1 is 12/18

Watch the videos again to make sure.
This also could mean
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Since 2 days isn't adequate time to fully heal (Apollo just got out of the hospital, Still in pain, and still in bandages), conduct a day of trial and investigations. This could disprove Case 2 being directly after Case 1
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:redd: Their faces are priceless and fitting.

I was having a goshdarn awful day today, but this made up for it. Thanks.

Edit: So, it's a combination of awful transcripts AND even more awful translations. At least the Japanese scripts are somewhat cohesive (except not really). How the heck the translations got to talking about world travel is beyond me.

Despite it all, Gyakuten Saiban still translates as Ace Attorney. I don't know if that's good or bad.
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It's probably already been spotted, but who's this behind that 「待った!」 Speech bubble?
It looks like someone with 70's shades:
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The trailer also reveals the game's Cross Examination Moderato and Allegro (Or Presto)
They sound so awesome! :keiko:

Also, It'd be a nice touch if there were cameos in the audience.
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My guess? Security guard. And not Meekins this time, someone halfway competent.
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Seems to be this guy with the white suit from here.

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Probably the new detective based on Apollo's dialogue.
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Seems to be this guy with the white suit from here.

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Probably the new detective based on Apollo's dialogue.


What does the dialogue say? Also who can translate this. Whats the name of the guy?
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Alias Pseudo wrote:
Reglare wrote:
Seems to be this guy with the white suit from here.

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Probably the new detective based on Apollo's dialogue.


What does the dialogue say? Also who can translate this. Whats the name of the guy?

Yeah, can someone please translate for us? :yogi:
In the trailer though, Apollo objected about fingerprints.

Unnecessary edit: Or was that a hold it? I didn't really check.
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Reglare wrote:
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Seems to be this guy with the white suit from here.

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Probably the new detective based on Apollo's dialogue.


Unnecessary edit: Or was that a hold it? I didn't really check.

The frame I paused it at was a :holdit:
So he must've been pressing the witness.

I never saw that scan! So that must be who that character is (The hair and sunglasses seem to match), but I don't want that person to be the main detective. Maybe he's like Angel Starr,

Spoiler:
(Or Luke Atmey) The killer could be the detective?


That Kanji in the scan is too small for me to see... All I can see is he's saying "Hahaha! Good! That...", and "Justice!" (Which is of no use :sadshoe: )
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Reglare wrote:
Seems to be this guy with the white suit from here.

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Probably the new detective based on Apollo's dialogue.

It says nothing about him being a detective. Where did you get that?

It's hard to make out his name, but it may be "Han". There are only two kana there anyway.

He calls himself an "ally of justice" and really reminds me of Utrino Guardner from PLvsAA. JP Capcom, please make a reference to Apollo's English name, it'd be so funny
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Rubia Silve Ryu wrote:
He calls himself an "ally of justice" and really reminds me of Utrino Guardner from PLvsAA.

He did remind me of Utrino at first, seeing as he uses "Justice" in Katakana, kinda like Gardner did.
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Rubia Silve Ryu wrote:
Reglare wrote:
Seems to be this guy with the white suit from here.

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Probably the new detective based on Apollo's dialogue.

It says nothing about him being a detective. Where did you get that?

It's hard to make out his name, but it may be "Han". There are only two kana there anyway.

He calls himself an "ally of justice" and really reminds me of Utrino Guardner from PLvsAA. JP Capcom, please make a reference to Apollo's English name, it'd be so funny


A feeling, since Apollo pretty much pressed him about fingerprints, and because of "ally of justice".
There's nothing saying he's not the detective, is there? We'll just see what happens when more info gets released.
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SuperAj3 wrote:
Rubia Silve Ryu wrote:
He calls himself an "ally of justice" and really reminds me of Utrino Guardner from PLvsAA.

He did remind me of Utrino at first, seeing as he uses "Justice" in Katakana, kinda like Gardner did.

That just means he's an English junkie. At least Gardner is from London, so it makes sense in context. But none will be able to top Masaru Konaka AKA Redd White in terms of fabulous Engrish

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A feeling, since Apollo pretty much pressed him about fingerprints, and because of "ally of justice".
There's nothing saying he's not the detective, is there? We'll just see what happens when more info gets released.

Touche, though he was pressing about the absence of fingerprints. (Case 2 does seem to be building up to finding the identity of the man behind the fox-mask. And talking about prints, Mr. Champion Fox wears topless gloves, so he should have left prints when he didn't.)
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Holy moly guacomole, what's this about Kokone being an attorney as well?

Could this be? An actual defense team?

EDIT: I'm not seeing anything suggesting the above besides the subtitles in the trailer. This raises a good point, though: imagine Apollo and Phoenix on the defense bench at the same time.
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Reglare wrote:
Seems to be this guy with the white suit from here.

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Probably the new detective based on Apollo's dialogue.

Well, at least his design is pretty cool. As long as he doesn't have any ridiculous ponytails...
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Well, at least his design is pretty cool. As long as he doesn't have any ridiculous ponytails...

His design made be think of a Pilot at first (With those glasses, the White suit, and what looks like a backpack/parachute around his shoulders.
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Holy moly guacomole, what's this about Kokone being an attorney as well?

Could this be? An actual defense team?

EDIT: I'm not seeing anything suggesting the above besides the subtitles in the trailer. This raises a good point, though: imagine Apollo and Phoenix on the defense bench at the same time.

So are you replying to me or...? If you are, take a second look at the picture of case 2 on the official site. You can tell that Mr. Champion Fox has open gloves as part of his outfit. It'll be a piece of contradicting evidence to present at one point; I can feel it!

Actually, that may be overkill to have them both there. Imagine three fingers being pointed at the same person. There might even be some genuine psychological damage from that image alone. The finger points are powerful and should be used sparingly.

...I'm half-serious.
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Wait, are you saying that Champion Fox will be defending alongside Apollo or something? :O
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Yellow Magician wrote:
Wait, are you saying that Champion Fox will be defending alongside Apollo or something? :O

Hah! ...I dunno. The guy behind that mask will probably be his client, and Apollo has to figure out who pretended to be him during a murder in that mansion.

Also, that guy in the white suit, Han, is mighty suspicious. Why, he might just be... No, wait. The second case is called "Turnabout Pandemonium" or like it, so there may be multiple suspects to find, yep.

Or heck, it could be a multi-view investigation, one side from Apollo's investigation and one side from Phoenix's. They can pool their findings together at some point. And Mr. Killer Machinevoice could show up again in the 2nd case, if that's the case.

Maybe I was wrong about the first case having an investigation phase, after all. Nick'll take down Pompous Payne in 10 minutes and Black Jack Jin's return debut will have been avenged.
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