More info on AA5 case 2 from Famitsu

Wed May 15, 2013 10:00 pm

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The ever-reliable hoso_boso has written up an excellent summary of this week’s Famitsu article. While there isn’t much said about Edgeworth and Trucy we can’t see from the screenshots, there’s plenty of other info:

New character: Detective Gouzou Ban (番　轟三)

A hot-blooded detective who has worked with Prosecutor Yuugami many times. He encounters Apollo and co. during their investigation. Funnily enough, his catchphrase is “justice”!

Details on case two:

Case two kicks off when Apollo and co. are invited by Trucy’s friend Yumemi Tenma (天馬　ゆめみ) attend a party to celebrate Kyuubi Village’s revitalization. Unfortunately, once they get there, a murder happens (as always) - the village mayor is found dead.

(Pictured above: Yumemi)

Yumemi is the daughter of the head of the Tenma family (天馬　出右衛門 - sorry, not sure how to read the first name). Her father is arrested for the mayor’s murder. But Yumemi thinks the real criminal is the demon “Tenma Tarou”! (天魔太郎)

Tenma Tarou is a character created to celebrate the village’s revival, and his rival is the Great Kyuubi. As part of the party, the characters were to fight it out.

(Pictured above: Yumemi’s father)

Other characters include Kumabee Zeniarai (銭洗　熊兵衛), who manages the mayor’s mansion, and Hideichi Biyouin (美葉院　秀一), one of the Tenma family’s secretaries.

(Pictured above: Kumabee)

(Pictured above: Hideichi)

Hopefully the official GS5 site will update soon and give us a better look at all this, eh?

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Wed May 15, 2013 10:10 pm

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Re: More info on AA5 case 2 from Famitsu

Wed May 15, 2013 10:53 pm

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First impressions are very important, Apollo.

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Re: More info on AA5 case 2 from Famitsu

Wed May 15, 2013 10:56 pm

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I'm not really liking the new detective. Why can't we just have Gumshoe back?

...Oh well. At least he'll be more enthusiastic about his job than Ema was.

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Thu May 16, 2013 12:01 am

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We shouldn't overstuff the game with old characters. We need room for growth, only adding returning characters where it's pertinent. Remember, this is supposed to be Apollo's era.

...

And if any detective should return it's Ema. See if she's sunnier now.

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Thu May 16, 2013 12:10 am

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One thing for sure, the detective's catchphrase will need to be changed since Justice is already taken.

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Thu May 16, 2013 12:17 am

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Re: More info on AA5 case 2 from Famitsu

Thu May 16, 2013 12:59 am

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Gyakuten$aiban wrote:

We shouldn't overstuff the game with old characters. We need room for growth, only adding returning characters where it's pertinent. Remember, this is supposed to be Apollo's era.

...

And if any detective should return it's Ema. See if she's sunnier now.

I don't mind them changing detectives so much, it's just that this one just looks like he'll be annoying. He kind of reminds of Meekins, and I really dislike the way this detective looks (it's a bit over-the-top).

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Thu May 16, 2013 1:39 am

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Defender123 wrote:

One thing for sure, the detective's catchphrase will need to be changed since Justice is already taken.

Unless the English translators could use it to create some sort of "Who's on First" sort of thing.

I actually kind of like this new guys look, although I still want to know what Gumshoe's up to. Maybe he won't be the detective you work with, but he'll make an appearance hanging out with Edgy or something.

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Thu May 16, 2013 3:07 am

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Accidental spam. Site didn't cancel my posts.
I'll just edit them out.

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Thu May 16, 2013 3:08 am

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Site updated with more Case 2 info by the way.
http://capcom.co.jp/gyakutensaiban/5/story02.html

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Thu May 16, 2013 3:10 am

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Sorry for the spam. The posts I submitted didn't seem to have been submitted so I tried rewording, but I thought it cancelled the submission after pressing cancelled.

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Thu May 16, 2013 3:23 am

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Defender123 wrote:

One thing for sure, the detective's catchphrase will need to be changed since Justice is already taken.

What next? "I am BANG! Hear me ROAR!" :zenitora:

Justice will be shocked beyond words... and Cykes would be rather psyched. :keiko:

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Thu May 16, 2013 3:24 am

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Sorry for that spam again.

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Thu May 16, 2013 3:27 am

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Defender123 wrote:

One thing for sure, the detective's catchphrase will need to be changed since Justice is already taken.

Nope, we'll just call the other guy Apollo.

Just Apollo... but not the Greek God.

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Thu May 16, 2013 3:28 am

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edit: Excuse double post.

That cologne will be the bane of my eyes if I ever played the game late at night... which I probably will because I'd be too hyped to sleep when I finally get a copy.

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Re: More info on AA5 case 2 from Famitsu

Thu May 16, 2013 6:29 am

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Bolt Storm wrote:

the head of the Tenma family (天馬　出右衛門 - sorry, not sure how to read the first name)

Probably Tenma Dezaemon. Note that he's the mayor of Tenma City; the victim is the major of Kyuubi Village. (The Tenma in the name of the mayor is the same Tenma as the one in the city, note).

Quote:

Hideichi Bibain (美葉院　秀一)

More likely Biyouin Shuuichi, or Hidekazu.

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Thu May 16, 2013 6:37 am

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Ash wrote:

Quote:

Hideichi Bibain (美葉院　秀一)

More likely Biyouin Shuuichi, or Hidekazu.

I think you're right, his name shows up Biyouin on one of the newer screens.
Biyouin? As in the word for "beauty parlour"? Looks like we got another Armstrong coming our way.

Also looking at Kumabe, looks like he is bear themed ("Kuma" meaning bear, and "be" coming from the Japanese rendering of the English "bear")? I always thought that he looked like a tanuki or something haha

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Thu May 16, 2013 6:37 am

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Now that I think about it, this new detective is becoming more and more of a candidate for Apollo's father.

I mean, he's hot-blooded, hammy as hell, and uses Justice as a catchphrase. Even his facial structure looks like an older Apollo.
If he's revealed to be around 40 or so, then that will be even better. I can picture an 18-year old Thalassa falling for this guy.

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Thu May 16, 2013 6:41 am

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TheBaronAndEma wrote:

Ash wrote:

Quote:

Hideichi Bibain (美葉院　秀一)

More likely Biyouin Shuuichi, or Hidekazu.

I think you're right, his name shows up Biyouin on one of the newer screens.
Biyouin? As in the word for "beauty parlour"? Looks like we got another Armstrong coming our way.

Actually, the pun is more than likely to be　美容院, 周一 (the beauty parlor, once a week).

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Thu May 16, 2013 7:32 pm

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Kumabee has a bracelet. Kinda looks like Polly's.

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Thu May 16, 2013 7:47 pm

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I was looking at the screenshot with Kumabee and then another one on Capcom's website.

He doesn't have the bracelet on the witness stand. Anyone got any ideas?

...What is this "normal" you speak of? It sounds dangerous.

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Thu May 16, 2013 8:33 pm

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Kav wrote:

Gyakuten$aiban wrote:

We shouldn't overstuff the game with old characters. We need room for growth, only adding returning characters where it's pertinent. Remember, this is supposed to be Apollo's era.

...

And if any detective should return it's Ema. See if she's sunnier now.

I don't mind them changing detectives so much, it's just that this one just looks like he'll be annoying. He kind of reminds of Meekins, and I really dislike the way this detective looks (it's a bit over-the-top).

Let's not forget the important thing about the new detective, he works closely with Jin. This most likely means that he'll only appear in cases where Jin is prosecutor. I'm guessing that, since we know now that Edgeworth will be returning to prosecute in at least one case, either Ema or Gumshoe will return as the detective in that particular case.

Though one has to wonder if Gumshoe is even still a detective? I mean, I know he's a bumbler and all, but after 8 years surely he would have at least gotten promoted to Sergeant by now?

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Thu May 16, 2013 10:27 pm

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Dougle wrote:

Now that I think about it, this new detective is becoming more and more of a candidate for Apollo's father.

I mean, he's hot-blooded, hammy as hell, and uses Justice as a catchphrase. Even his facial structure looks like an older Apollo.
If he's revealed to be around 40 or so, then that will be even better. I can picture an 18-year old Thalassa falling for this guy.

I am quite sure that Appolo's father was said by Valant Gramarye to have been a fellow stage performer who died before some time after Apollo was born. I see no reason why Valent would lie and if he did it would likely be a reason more significant than he quit and decided to become a detective.

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Thu May 16, 2013 11:51 pm

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TheIdioteque wrote:

Though one has to wonder if Gumshoe is even still a detective? I mean, I know he's a bumbler and all, but after 8 years surely he would have at least gotten promoted to Sergeant by now?

More like he's probably living on Phoenix's couch by now.

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Fri May 17, 2013 12:46 am

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Ghostwriter wrote:

TheIdioteque wrote:

Though one has to wonder if Gumshoe is even still a detective? I mean, I know he's a bumbler and all, but after 8 years surely he would have at least gotten promoted to Sergeant by now?

More like he's probably living on Phoenix's couch by now.

Or he's working in an instant noodle factory with a salary that allows him to live middle-class.

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Fri May 17, 2013 2:27 am

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TheIdioteque wrote:

Though one has to wonder if Gumshoe is even still a detective? I mean, I know he's a bumbler and all, but after 8 years surely he would have at least gotten promoted to Sergeant by now?

He's a house husband. Maggey is the bread winner now.

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Fri May 17, 2013 2:35 am

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He's a house husband. Maggey is the bread winner now.

If this were a sitcom, I would watch it.

Re: More info on AA5 case 2 from Famitsu

Fri May 17, 2013 7:36 pm

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Bolt, I notice you keep referring to the village name as "Kitsune"; it should be "Kyuubi". So, the wrestler's name is the Great Kyuubi. (It says so on the site on the case 2 page.)

On a different but still related note, this case can be appropriately titled "Turnabout Pandemonium". It seems Yumemi's father becomes a victim himself at some point. It could be the same killer as the guy who killed the mayor, but I feel that this case will have multiple villains to pursue. It'd be even more interesting if both killers disguised themselves as Tenma Tarou and Great Kyuubi. And since someone kills Apollo's first client, he'll get another who is falsely accused for murdering his first client.

One victim is stabbed and another is struck. Perhaps Tenma Tarou is the one who uses a spear, while Great Kyuubi simply smacks his foes. Or maybe the facts of this case are screwed up so much that it's actually vice versa. In any case, the overlying motive may be what is hidden behind those solid double doors.

And somewhere in all that, the one trumpeting "Justice" is none other than Ban himself. And somewhere in all that, the one telling people to shut up is none other than Yuugami. The two work surprisingly well in this aspect.

Meanwhile, Apollo keeps a tag on his face for some parts of the investigation because Yumemi would be too terrified to approach him otherwise. It's his horns, of course.

I may be making vague guesses without proof, but it's all through logical deduction. :think:

Now if only I could find some evidence to back up these claims... :nick-sweat:

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Fri May 17, 2013 7:58 pm

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...Oh crap, you're totally right on the Kyuubi thing. :ack:

I'm really sorry - I was doing most of these translations in a hurry, and when I saw a nine-tailed-fox mascot my brain assumed that those kanji were how you wrote Kitsune.

Also, I don't think Yumemi's dad is a victim - it looks to me like he was wounded at the same time that the victim was killed, hence why he's got bandages on his head and was arrested.

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Sat May 18, 2013 1:16 am

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It's a bit odd either way. During the Nico Kaiga trailer, there was a short clip of Apollo and Athena investigating the mansion, and the chair near the taped-up table was clean. But in the newest trailer (or another, I'll need to recheck it), there is a clip of them re-investigating the scene with the bloody chair, but without the bloody table. Now, unless the police cleaned up one scene and not the other for some reason, I think the two attacks take place at different times.

(For those curious, kitsune is written 狐, while kyuubi is written 九尾.)

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Sat May 18, 2013 9:31 am

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Rubia Silve Ryu wrote:

It's a bit odd either way. During the Nico Kaiga trailer, there was a short clip of Apollo and Athena investigating the mansion, and the chair near the taped-up table was clean. But in the newest trailer (or another, I'll need to recheck it), there is a clip of them re-investigating the scene with the bloody chair, but without the bloody table. Now, unless the police cleaned up one scene and not the other for some reason, I think the two attacks take place at different times.

Or maybe they just changed stuff during the development of the game? I know in the AAI trailer there were many scenes completely different from the final game (e.g. Kay already appearing in case 2).

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Sat May 18, 2013 9:59 am

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Yeah, but that trailer was obviously staged for the specific purpose of misleading/looking cool.

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Sun May 19, 2013 8:04 am

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Rubia Silve Ryu wrote:

It's a bit odd either way. During the Nico Kaiga trailer, there was a short clip of Apollo and Athena investigating the mansion, and the chair near the taped-up table was clean. But in the newest trailer (or another, I'll need to recheck it), there is a clip of them re-investigating the scene with the bloody chair, but without the bloody table. Now, unless the police cleaned up one scene and not the other for some reason, I think the two attacks take place at different times.

Ah, scratch that. Taking another look through the trailers, and it seems like during all investigations of the crime scene, the two areas are both taped up. The chair is clean, but that's because Mr. Tenma was knocked out and had an insignificant amount of blood loss. That does explain why Mr. Tenma has a bandage on his head when you meet him in the detention center, though I swear he just has a bunch of those tags swarming his head thanks to Yumemi. (I must have been thinking about certain shots from the TGS show, back when the game was still in much development.)

But the obvious illusion is of Tenma Tarou appearing at the scene. Feathers strung about the floor, a spear that comes from nowhere... that sounds like the work of an apparition, alright. But I have my bets on the Great Kyuubi somehow being a part of the plot... or maybe both.

Now I'm still figuring out why Apollo and Athena needed to open a window while they were there.

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Mon May 20, 2013 3:12 am

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Isn't the flower guy's name Shuuichi Biyouin, not Hideichi Biyouin? And no idea why he's pointing his flower at Apollo.

So I guess that Yumemi's father's name hasn't been revealed yet? Wonder what's he saying in the screenshot where he's in court. And I'm curious to see why he's already being depicted as a villain by the website since his motive for killing the mayor is that he wanted to merge the village and the city together. Hmm...

And I bet the murder's gonna be like a locked-room mystery but I don't know what's up with those feathers.

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Mon May 20, 2013 3:30 am

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AnsweringNOW wrote:

And I bet the murder's gonna be like a locked-room mystery but I don't know what's up with those feathers.

The feathers are linked to the monster that's against the Kyuubi in the village festival.

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Mon May 20, 2013 3:48 am

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What's Biyouin (I think that's Biyouin speaking but it could be another character) saying in the second screenshot? And I notice that in the first screenshot, he's holding something in his hand beside his flower but that same object is missing in the second screenshot. Wonder what that is.

Re: More info on AA5 case 2 from Famitsu

Mon May 20, 2013 5:55 am

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AnsweringNOW wrote:

What's Biyouin (I think that's Biyouin speaking but it could be another character) saying in the second screenshot? And I notice that in the first screenshot, he's holding something in his hand beside his flower but that same object is missing in the second screenshot. Wonder what that is.

He says " This is the scent of my original brand, 'I Am Biyouin'." It must be a perfume bottle or something.

Re: More info on AA5 case 2 from Famitsu

Mon May 20, 2013 7:08 am

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AnsweringNOW wrote:

Isn't the flower guy's name Shuuichi Biyouin, not Hideichi Biyouin? And no idea why he's pointing his flower at Apollo.

It's Shuuichi Biyouin and his perfume. He prefers attorneys smelling like him. Apollo is less than pleased to be sprayed in the eyes.

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So I guess that Yumemi's father's name hasn't been revealed yet? Wonder what's he saying in the screenshot where he's in court.

His first name is 出右衛門, probably pronounced Deemon (ya know, like "demon", but it's said "dehmon"). On the stand, he only says "The true form of Tenma Tarou is..." <- "form" can be identity, but it's ambiguous here

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And I'm curious to see why he's already being depicted as a villain by the website since his motive for killing the mayor is that he wanted to merge the village and the city together. Hmm...

It's intentional. The name 天魔 (Tenma) refers to a demon from a realm of desire in Buddhist practice. He's not a nice fellow, or so I hear. Ironically, the characters' surname 天馬 (Tenma) refers to a kind of Japanese mythical creature that looks like a Pegasus.

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And I bet the murder's gonna be like a locked-room mystery but I don't know what's up with those feathers.

I dunno either. Someone's obviously trying to frame Mr. Tarou Tenma, the poor bird-demon-guy. Maybe it's Great Kyuubi, who has left behind his spiritual seal/tag that acts like a business card. Or are they both being framed? Questions, questions...

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Re: More info on AA5 case 2 from Famitsu

Mon May 20, 2013 9:07 am

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Rubia Silve Ryu wrote:

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And I bet the murder's gonna be like a locked-room mystery but I don't know what's up with those feathers.

I dunno either. Someone's obviously trying to frame Mr. Tarou Tenma, the poor bird-demon-guy. Maybe it's Great Kyuubi, who has left behind his spiritual seal/tag that acts like a business card. Or are they both being framed? Questions, questions...

We're gonna be suspicious of the him, and Champion Wrestler Kyuubi, then it'll turn out the real culprit is a tanuki. TAN DAN DAN DAN

EDIT: Just a joke of course.

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I'm just not sure on whose face to push my hand on.

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