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So I figure this is an event some people may be interested in here.

Microsoft announced the name of their big console ready to lock horns with the PS4: The Xbox ONE.

Aside from their inability to count correctly what are your thoughts on the latest in gaming tech from Microsoft?
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Oh god. I figured a topic regarding this awful console would pop up. So far, the Xbox One is shaping up to be a pretty disappointing reveal. Focusing on TV and Sports? Yay Video games! And that DRM they're thinking about? Stupid. I'm not going to be able to have friends bring their games over to my house anymore? Stupid.

If they drop some really awesome games on us at E3, I MAY get one. Same goes with the PS4. Hell, I may not even buy a console this gen. Nothing is impressing me.
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Blak The Great wrote:
Oh god. I figured a topic regarding this awful console would pop up. So far, the Xbox One is shaping up to be a pretty disappointing reveal. Focusing on TV and Sports? Yay Video games! And that DRM they're thinking about? Stupid. I'm not going to be able to have friends bring their games over to my house anymore? Stupid.

If they drop some really awesome games on us at E3, I MAY get one. Same goes with the PS4. Hell, I may not even buy a console this gen. Nothing is impressing me.


Well yeah me and my mate reckoned that was their big plan, they didn't mention anything because E3 is coming up soon.

However this is a mistake in itself ya? It means people will remember the unveiling as boring as hell, if you are just going to mention all of it at E3 why even bother with a separate event instead of dropping the big bomb on E3?

Still absolutely nothing really worth seeing there in my eyes and it's sparking all kinds of horrible rumours there are for this console and it's features.
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Considering what I read prior to the name being found out - and the name being pretty stupid, I mean "ONE"? So now we have Xbox ('the first' needs to be added, or they think you'll mean the Xbox360), the 360 and now ONE which was first thought to be called 720.... to be honest, I might've preferred 720. At least it made sense in terms of numerals!

And what I've read now from the little advertisment Gamestop sent me with their Newsletter.... I'm not very excited. The Kinect is better responsive than before? Don't care, I never had Kinect to begin with and I don't really feel like getting it. There's a limit to Motion Controls I'd want in my gaming experience. Speaking of gaming, what?
You can go watch TV on your consoles, watch videos and movies, listen to music and digital TV!
Um, horray? What about games? Can I play games on this? Like, actual hard-in-hand copies or what?

Overall, I'm not too excited.
The PS4, as I've heard, is already not regioncode-free and not backwards-compatible for PS3 games. And this new Xbox just makes me see that these new generation consoles - ONE, PS4 and WiiU - are not the kind I'd want. Maybe if they have some really awesome sounding games on them, I might get one. Heck, the only reason I'd get a WiiU is a new Zelda coming out on it. But even then, I'd make sure to buy the cheapest, used WiiU because it just costs way too fucking much for me.
Even if I still had a job.

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Don't forget the Kinect MUST ALWAYS be plugged in for the console to function at all. I already own, but since the One can't use 360 controllers and peripherals I'd have to buy another one/bundled with it. Great Microsoft. Why'd you give us a Kinect for the 360 if you're just gonna use a brand new one for the One? Thanks k bye.
I'll probably just stick with my PC since I can buy games for a lot less than what I would pay for console games.

Plus my 3DS is getting a lot more use nowadays. You just can't beat Fire Emblem right now.
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Oh goody the new one is out, loved the PS4 one!

Is it clear whether the latest Kinect comes WITH the system? Or whether the old Kinect will work with it?
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Microsoft said they made the Kinect much more best. And they've said you can't use 360 controllers on the new Xbox.
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Contained within the spoiler box below is my personal stance on what makes a console worth buying.

Spoiler: My personal opinion
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Contained within the spoiler box below is my personal stance on what makes a console worth buying.

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Good games.

but

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Bad Player wrote:
General Luigi wrote:
Contained within the spoiler box below is my personal stance on what makes a console worth buying.

Spoiler: My personal opinion
Good games.

but

TELEVISION


Don't forget DOGS! Call of Duty will make FEEL for the dog!
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I saw a poll on Gamefaqs where people were voting on either the XBox One or the WiiU. WiiU was beating the XBox 10 to 1.

That's saying a lot.
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Blak The Great wrote:
Bad Player wrote:
General Luigi wrote:
Contained within the spoiler box below is my personal stance on what makes a console worth buying.

Spoiler: My personal opinion
Good games.

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TELEVISION


Don't forget DOGS! Call of Duty will make FEEL for the dog!


AND SPORTTSS HNNNNNNGGGGGH I LOVE AMERICAN FOOTBALL!
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The Xbox One will cost just 599 US dollars!
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I saw a poll on Gamefaqs where people were voting on either the XBox One or the WiiU. WiiU was beating the XBox 10 to 1.

That's saying a lot.


Not really, unless you say it's just Picking the Lesser Evil out of the two.

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I'm more loyal to PS.
...Not any real reason and I'm not in these 'PS is better than Xbox 'cause' -wars I assure you.
It's jsut the reason that I got PS2 first and...yeah....I've never own Xbox.
Out of curiosity though I checked A.Joes video about this Xbox One and....I dunno should I giggle or not.
To be honest, I was thinking of getting the new Xbox at some point since the 360 kinda won me over.
...My PS3 looks at me with teary eyes right now, but that's besides the point....
But now that I've seen Joes video and bunch of other videos too....I dunno....It's like Joe said; a massive breakdown....

What I can't really understand is their decision to pay some fee if you borrowed the game from a friend.
Okay, I can somewhat understand why they did it, but C'MON...!! Seriously?!

Hhhhhh....Oh well...
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Out of curiosity though I checked A.Joes video about this Xbox One and....I dunno should I giggle or not.


I watched Angry Joe's video as well and, boy, did he hit the nail on the head.
He mentioned things that I hadn't heard of and I really wonder what Microsoft was thinking, creating ONE. It's like a glorified TV that can show you everything you want, including television! And games were kinda put there in at last minute. I wonder why I would even bother to by a ONE considering that... I have a TV! Actually, I have two!

The design seems pretty boring, too, the one from the console, the controller and the kinect. Oh wow, it's a giant, rectangular box with sharp corners. Brilliant design! You know, their previous 360 design with the slimmer look and slightly concave form that's just so disgusting to look at all the time. The future is boring black boxes. I build prettier houses in Sims 2 and 3 than that console and I am usually very boring when it comes to building houses.
By the way, I'm being very sarcastic about that first bit. I've had people complain, unable to tell when I was being sarcastic. I thought it'd be obvious enough.

And then he mentioned that whole Installing-Games and Live-Account-Tied and No-Game-Sharing/Second-Use-Fee. My god, is Microsoft trying to destroy themselves? Aside from stopping friends from lending games to other friends they are also putting a huge cramp onto the overall market regarding games. Majority of the games I buy are used, either because I don't buy them when they are new or the store doesn't have them in new or I simply don't want to pay 60€ for a game that I know I will enjoy, but not enough to pay 60-freaking-Euros for it.

Although I wish that Angry Joe would stop saying the PS4 is so freaking amazing. It isn't. It isn't backwards-compatible with PS3 games - the same way the ONE won't be compatible with 360 stuff - and it has region-code protection on it. Why put that back on when they so awesomely removed it for the PS3?

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To be fair, the new PS3s don't have backwards-compatibility either and the 360 could only play a select number of titles from the original X-Box. Backwards-compatibility isn't that much of a deal-breaker for me anyways.
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To be fair, the new PS3s don't have backwards-compatibility either and the 360 could only play a select number of titles from the original X-Box. Backwards-compatibility isn't that much of a deal-breaker for me anyways.


It isn't to me, either, since I still have a decently working PS2 in my collection. And the older PS3 - one which I have - is backwards compatible. And I can get why people say they like backwards compatibility, maybe because they don't have the room for having every single console around or simply prefer to have everyone on one giant console.

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I can understand why consoles omit backwards compatibility, since it saves the cost to make the system and lowers the price of the system for the consumer. That being said, X-Box ONE is just horrible.
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Considering what I read prior to the name being found out - and the name being pretty stupid, I mean "ONE"? So now we have Xbox ('the first' needs to be added, or they think you'll mean the Xbox360), the 360 and now ONE which was first thought to be called 720.... to be honest, I might've preferred 720. At least it made sense in terms of numerals!

The name is supposed to represent how the console does everything (all-in-one, hah) as an entertainment center. Doesn't make the name any less stupid, though.


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The Xbox One will cost just 599 US dollars!

You know, it's kind of funny that Microsoft has pretty much become Sony from last gen. The push to sell the console based on everything but the games, the arrogance in believing that their fanbase will blindly buy their product no matter what, the conflicting sources of information... history repeating itself, indeed. We just need them to announce a ridiculous price point to seal the deal.


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That being said, X-Box ONE is just horrible.

Which is why the internet has universally decided to nickname the console XBone. At least that way it actually sounds somewhat cool.


As for my opinion of the console, don't really care for it. Then again, I've never owned an Xbox/360 because it never had any exclusive games I've cared about, so this oversized duct-taped stack of Betamax players probably isn't catering to me anyway. And given the debacle over used games and everything else, I don't see myself buying this one, either.
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I can understand why consoles omit backwards compatibility, since it saves the cost to make the system and lowers the price of the system for the consumer. That being said, X-Box ONE is just horrible.


Additionally Don Mattrick said this:

"If you want Backwards compatibility....you're really backwards"

Potentially insulting loads of fans who did actually want Backwards compatibility.

The issue I have with this is that it means people cannot trade in Xbox360's for it so they have to fork out more money since they'd lose the capability to play their old games.
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The name is supposed to represent how the console does everything (all-in-one, hah) as an entertainment center. Doesn't make the name any less stupid, though.


In that case, why not call it Omni?
I've seen a few of the Fan-Names and they went for Infinite/Infinity, Omni, etc. Omni means everything, so why not go for that? It has the added bonus of having a latin word in it, so it is 'even cooler'.

Apparently the Used-Game-Fee was a joke or doesn't exist.
I have yet to see a full confirmation of this, but overall.... I still don't think I would buy the ONE. I mean, just because they apparently now say that one of their shitty conditions doesn't apply doesn't mean I'll instantly go buy one.
A console needs to have good games on it, games that interest me and have some features to it that keep my interest. And I'm not talking about a drawing pad or anything like that. Heck, the stuff I know about the ONE still sounds like it's a crap game console actually it's a glorified TV.

Why would anyone buy the ONE since it's basically a TV.
Practically everyone has a TV these days, they don't need ONE. If Microsoft had simply come out and said, "We're sick and tired of creating gaming consoles" that would've been fine. I think they are trying to bomb the ONE so that they don't get pestered for creating another console. They probably want to fail with it.

Otherwise, I'd worry for their sanity.
What single part of that whole console idea that is the ONE sounded good and marketable to them? :eh?:

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You're right, the Omni does sound much better.

Though I heard the 'used-game' trick actually means the game will always run off the disk at no-charge so you can take it places. However it installs (I'm quoting here) "The bits" of the game on so that if your pal liked the game, they can just pay the fee download it and go.

Yeah I'm not quite sure what that entails really. It seems like a needless feature since with Xbox live or the PSN (or even increasingly with 3DS) if there's a game you borrowed and played you can download a digital copy so I'm really not sure what the function of 'The Bits' is.



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Microsoft is intentionally bombing the One so that people will turn their eyes towards PC superiority thus (hopefully) selling more Windows PC's resulting in a bigger boost while they amputate the Xbox arm of the company.
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The issue I have with this is that it means people cannot trade in Xbox360's for it so they have to fork out more money since they'd lose the capability to play their old games.

I wouldn't be surprised if that was the point.
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Oh. Oh man. Xbox, go home, ur drunk.

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Oh. Oh man. Xbox, go home, ur drunk.

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Oh. Oh man. Xbox, go home, ur drunk.

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An achievement for sitting on your bottom and doing nothing. I wonder if Kinect tracks whether you are actively paying attention to the show so it can deny you the achievement if you look away or fall asleep.


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I remember seeing a baseball game on TV a few years ago. The home team was absolutely crushing the visiting team. One of the announcers joked that the visiting team's pitcher was going to be the game's MVP. Judging by that article, Pierre, it appears Microsoft is that pitcher.
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General Luigi wrote:
I remember seeing a baseball game on TV a few years ago. The home team was absolutely crushing the visiting team. One of the announcers joked that the visiting team's pitcher was going to be the game's MVP. Judging by that article, Pierre, it appears Microsoft is that pitcher.


I know it's actually like a bad joke. I mean I love nintendo but this is the last place I'd think they'd get a boost from.
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X-Boner is just a vehicle for Microsoft to force their shitty hardware add-ons on their consumers. The fact that a Kinect is required to so much as turn it on, much less interface with the damn thing, is enough proof of this and also more of incentive than ever to steer far, far away from it.
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Apparently translated the Xbox One has negative connotations in Japan as "X1" is a code or something on Japanese family trees for your first divorced partner.
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Apparently translated the Xbox One has negative connotations in Japan as "X1" is a code or something on Japanese family trees for your first divorced partner.


Well good they didn't call it Xbox 4/Shi as the pronounciation of 4 in Japanese and Chinese, "Shi", is the same way you say Death. Overall, though, I don't think it would have mattered what they call it, a cooler name would not make up for that huge amount of faults.
I still think it'll bomb.... hopefully.

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Oh boy. I already didn't like Wii U and PS4, but this new XBox go even further. I really laughed at Microsoft.
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It should be noted that apparently Wii U sales rose 875% following the Xbox One reveal. Personally, the whole used games fiasco, the Kinect always being on (and rumoured to be used to spy on people for the MPAA), and the always-online requirement killed any interest I had in the Xbox One. I can see the PS4 dominating this gen if they just say 'there's no fee for used games, no forced motion controls, no always-online requirement, and PSN is still free'. The same can be said for the Wii U if Nintendo continue with the constant improvements they've been making to their online facilities, as the Wii U is clearly capable of standing against its competitors in terms of online, but only if Nintendo keeps taking steps forward with it.

And regarding Xbox One's lack of backwards compatibility, personally I don't care. I barely play any 360 games, save for Fifa (which I am mildly irritated about considering Fifa 14 is X1 exclusive), Street Fighter IV, Minecraft etc, although I don't see how XBLA games are incompatible with X1. I would be a bit disappointed is PS4 had no backwards compatibility as Sony are usually solid with that (it was the only reason I opted for a 60GB fat PS3 in the year 2012).

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Hardly a wall of text but who are the MPAA?
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Hardly a wall of text but who are the MPAA?

The MPAA is the Motion Picture Association of America, I think. I don't know why they would want to spy on people, but then again, since I don't live in the USA, I don't know how they work.
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This seems a bit of a blindsider for
me, guess in all the big crazy negatives I overlooked this. It's confirmed to be region locked.

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