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Hi, I'm new at this community. I come from Ace Attorney Spain and I would like to show you our petition to Capcom Europe.The fact is that we have created a formal request that we sent to Capcom via the popular website Change.org. The reason, the same for which many Ace Attorney fans have complained in recent days: the absence of the physical edition of Phoenix Wright: Dual Destinies in its European launch.
Please, sign for all the european Ace Attorney fans. We need a lot of signs for Capcom to see smart economically viable and even launch the game in its physical format.

Here is the link: http://www.change.org/es/peticiones/capcom-europe-please-launch-phoenix-wright-dual-destinies-in-europe-in-physical-support#

Thanks a lot.

PS: Sorry for my bad english, I'm Spanish and sorry if I've put the topic in the wrong subforum.
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1 million signs will be a little hard to achieve. Best of luck! I signed.
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Not only is the 1.000.000 goal ridiculous... I'm also not very sure I endorse this.

I mean, do you REALLY need a physical release? I don't own a credit card and I can't get eShop prepaid cards here, but I'll do whatever it takes to buy Dual Destinies at launch, even if it means borrowing a credit card from a friend of something. I've never even purchased a game digitally, and I am completely okay with this, because WE'RE GETTING THE GAME. and less than six months after it's launched in Japan.

What is the difference? A box? You know, you can buy the cheapest 3DS game you can find on clearance and use its box, print the game's boxart and slap it into the box's sleeve. There's your "game on shelf", except you don't even have to open the box, take the game, remove whichever game is on your 3DS, put Dual Destinies in, put away the game you just removed, and THEN play... You just turn on your 3DS with the SD in (if it's not in you just... put it in) and there it is, just waiting for you to play. Wherever you go, whatever game is on your 3DS' cart slot.

I can completely understand if the European fans demanded a translation of the game, because that is essential for a TON of people to be able to fully enjoy the game... But demanding for a physical release just seems petty and whimsy.

The game wouldn't even be localized if it weren't for an eShop release being viable.

It's as simple as this: if you're a true Ace Attorney fan, you'll do whatever you can to buy the games. Unless they're ports, of course, then they're most probably ignorable.
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I'm all for the digital release, and I've said what you've said on capcom-unity DeMatador.
I'm buying the game regardless of its platform XD It's not like digital will hinder the game, it'll only work a little faster because it's not reading a cartridge!
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I'm all for the digital release, and I've said what you've said on capcom-unity DeMatador.
I'm buying the game regardless of its platform XD It's not like digital will hinder the game, it'll only work a little faster because it's not reading a cartridge!


Hmm I'm not sure that last part is true.

I have monster hunter installed on mine and when I save it takes much longer, (maybe at least a minute) to save than my friends games when we finish a quest.

Though yes I think 1 million is too big a goal to be feasible.
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I'm all for the digital release, and I've said what you've said on capcom-unity DeMatador.
I'm buying the game regardless of its platform XD It's not like digital will hinder the game, it'll only work a little faster because it's not reading a cartridge!


Hmm I'm not sure that last part is true.

I know for PSP that's true, but that uses a disc. The only digital download game I have is Professor Layton 5, and we got the daily puzzles first (albeit only a day), and it saves quite quickly.

Still, Ace Attorney 5 as digital download only, It should be just as enjoyable, (And convenient, if you just want to switch games when you're bored, and want to play AA5, it's not like you need to go get the cartridge, you can just play it there and then.)
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Don't hit me, but I've got the first three games only in digital form on my Wii and I don't see the problem at all :sawit:
Nothing wrong with downloadable games in my opinion. Besides, these kind of games are rarely sold in the (offline) stores where I live anyway.
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Assuming no physical release gets produced (which I assume is a safe assumption) if people really wanted a true "Case-On-Shelf" vibe for DD they could take one of those plastic SD card holders, (kind of like the little plastic game cartridge holders you can buy), glue it to the inside of a 3DS case, print out the game's cover art, and then copy the game to a separate SD card that only features DD on it. Then when you want to play, you can just pull out the SD card and put it in as if it was a cartridge.

I won't do that, though, because it doesn't make sense on a bunch of other levels (ease, space saving, cost, etc.). I don't mind the digital release, (although obviously I would prefer a physical release) the only worry I have about it is that it could make the game not sell as well, but Capcom says it has a plan and I would imagine based on their discussions about AAI2 that they are choosing the option that will get them the most profit, which is what we want if we want to see the eventual GS6 over here.
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It's all about economics. GS simply isn't a super seller outside of Japan, and the money needed to localize the game coupled with the production costs of making physical carts just overshadows the profit Capcom has in mind. If Capcom had gone with a physical release sure fans would be pretty happy and stuff, but then Capcom would have quite a lot of copies sitting in retailer stores for ages. And then there are the idiots boycotting the whole thing cause they're not getting a physical release. Why are you guys sabotaging any chances of a GS6 international release? Whatever.
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ADA McCoy wrote:
Assuming no physical release gets produced (which I assume is a safe assumption) if people really wanted a true "Case-On-Shelf" vibe for DD they could take one of those plastic SD card holders, (kind of like the little plastic game cartridge holders you can buy), glue it to the inside of a 3DS case, print out the game's cover art, and then copy the game to a separate SD card that only features DD on it. Then when you want to play, you can just pull out the SD card and put it in as if it was a cartridge.

I won't do that, though, because it doesn't make sense on a bunch of other levels (ease, space saving, cost, etc.). I don't mind the digital release, (although obviously I would prefer a physical release) the only worry I have about it is that it could make the game not sell as well, but Capcom says it has a plan and I would imagine based on their discussions about AAI2 that they are choosing the option that will get them the most profit, which is what we want if we want to see the eventual GS6 over here.



Hmmm now that you mention it what if they are experimenting with this digital-only release to see if it would be worth doing the same thing with AAI2?
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Honestly, the only thing I'd be minorly upset over for not having a physical release of the game is not being able to get a little pre-order goody like we did with the other games, but I'll live. The fact that it's even getting localized and I'll be able to purchase it and play it in some form on a system I own is good enough for me and not having a box means less clutter around the house.
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And then there are the idiots boycotting the whole thing cause they're not getting a physical release. Why are you guys sabotaging any chances of a GS6 international release? Whatever.


Yeah that makes absolutely no sense to me. It's one thing for a casual fan that just heard about the game yesterday and has only a slight interest in the game to say "If it's digital I'm not buying it", but I don't understand how someone who is a hardcore fan who has waited 5+ years for GS5 to suddenly not want it just because it is digital only. I haven't seen any comments like that on C-R, but I have on new site comments and places like that that go something like "This was a day one buy for me that I'd waited for for months, but now it's digital so I'm not ever going to buy it until we get a physical release." The franchise is still in big trouble right now in regards to it's future in English. AAI2 seemed like it might be a one-time event because of the DS console's end and AAI2's status as a spin-off. But recently we now now that PLvsAA is most likely never going to be localized (I think we all were pretty sure it was going to be, so it was quite a shock to hear nothing) and that DD is only digital. So in my opinion the franchise is just as in trouble (if not more) than we thought it was, and in order for us to get GS6,7,8...and even AAI2 it's going to take people purchasing GS5. So I hope people get that.

Personally, even if AA was a massive hit over here I would play GS5 no matter what the circumstances. Even if GS5 had to be purchased from an Jeff Goldblum impersonator working at a Starbucks and could only be played on a Commodore 64 I would play it. I got into AA through AJ in 2008 and so I've waited 5 years for this game to come out. I only hope it won't be the last I see.

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Hmmm now that you mention it what if they are experimenting with this digital-only release to see if it would be worth doing the same thing with AAI2?


That would be awesome. Come to think of it, the last time Svenn said that eShop wasn't viable at the time was before GS5 was shown off at TGS, so we can only hope Capcom is setting up plans for this in the future. The dreamer in me hopes that they would somehow reveal an eShop AAI2 in the weeks before the release of GS5, but that's totally unrealistic. Realistically, I think if GS5 is extremely popular on the eShop then AAI2 might be offered later in 2014 as a way to get another one out for the platform before GS6 comes out.
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One one hand, everything DeMat said in his first post is true, and makes logical sense.

On the other hand, there's still something... nicer about a physical version.

And (at least for me) it's not about the box. It's about the cartridge.

I bought Bravely Default: Flying Fairy digitally on a whim and it's great (especially since I got it for at least $20 cheaper than I otherwise would've, I think), but for a 'special' game like GS5? No way I'm going anything other than physical.

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Honestly, the only thing I'd be minorly upset over for not having a physical release of the game is not being able to get a little pre-order goody like we did with the other games, but I'll live.

Don't forget the fact that the GS5 goodies were/are lame and overpriced >_>
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Apparently they've lowered the amount of signatures they're asking for to 300.000... It's still too much, considering the AAI2 petition I myself created managed to get 14.406 signatures, and that was asking for the game to be *localized and released*, in any format. Hell, I even wrote the text of the petition so that Capcom knew we didn't care about platform! I wrote "either as a Nintendo DS retail release, or as a Nintendo 3DS retail or downloadable release, or any other format Capcom US may see fit". We just wanted the game.

14.406 is quite an amount of people considering how many gamers actually signed petitions back then (for some reason it's getting more popular as of late), and how niche Ace Attorney was, is and always has been... And it's still an extremely low number in comparison to 300.000 (let alone the original million.)

Also, the petition has... It just has no arguments. Its only identifiable argument is "the digital download significantly reduces the experience for the harcore gamer, eager to “touch” the product"... I am a fan of Ace Attorney since I casually discovered it six years ago, and I have never even been able to purchase on of the games due to my country's terrible gaming market. Yes, I have been forced to steal every Ace Attorney game so far, because I loved the first one and wanted more, and couldn't get the game anywhere, let alone for a reasonable price (games cost between 1.5 and 3 times more here than in the US, and we only get the most important ones.) And this is getting worse by the day. Digital distribution is Latin American gamers' only ray of hope, unless you're in a country like mine where the currency is crumbling and the economy is about to explode (yay)

Ironically, Dual Destinies will be my first Ace Attorney purchase ever, because I trust the eShop enough that I know I'll be able to find a friend who'll lend me their credit card. I'm saving up the cash, and if it weren't for the fact that purchasing US dollars is now illegal, I would be buying some now, because chances are that by the time DD launches, dollars'll get even more expensive (their price went up around 100% in the last 10 months.)
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Honestly, the only thing I'd be minorly upset over for not having a physical release of the game is not being able to get a little pre-order goody like we did with the other games, but I'll live.

Don't forget the fact that the GS5 goodies were/are lame and overpriced >_>


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I checked out the trailer on youtube and it's a nightmare. People are saying they'll boycott the game because of it not having a physical retail release, despite them not knowing a damn thing about how the situation works. Getting pretty pissed off, because they say things like "the series deserves to be in retail form!". Y'lnow what else the series deserves? To not have a bunch of whiney babies with such animosity towards the digital outlet that they'll let such a great franchise die an unfair and stupid death because they feel they know what's best for it :chinami:

What they don't even realise is that it was e-shop or not being localised at all :gumshoe:
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I checked out the trailer on youtube and it's a nightmare. People are saying they'll boycott the game because of it not having a physical retail release, despite them not knowing a damn thing about how the situation works. Getting pretty pissed off, because they say things like "the series deserves to be in retail form!". Y'lnow what else the series deserves? To not have a bunch of whiney babies with such animosity towards the digital outlet that they'll let such a great franchise die an unfair and stupid death because they feel they know what's best for it :chinami:

What they don't even realise is that it was e-shop or not being localised at all :gumshoe:


Is there really so many people talking about boycotting it?
For all we know this might not be a 'downgrade' Capcom might have realised "Well it's a niche title in the west" and were planning on the digital venue all along.

Geez they are just putting nails in AA's coffin with that.

I don't want people to speak of the AA fandom the same way they speak of the Sonic fandom.
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Pierre wrote:
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I checked out the trailer on youtube and it's a nightmare. People are saying they'll boycott the game because of it not having a physical retail release, despite them not knowing a damn thing about how the situation works. Getting pretty pissed off, because they say things like "the series deserves to be in retail form!". Y'lnow what else the series deserves? To not have a bunch of whiney babies with such animosity towards the digital outlet that they'll let such a great franchise die an unfair and stupid death because they feel they know what's best for it :chinami:

What they don't even realise is that it was e-shop or not being localised at all :gumshoe:


Is there really so many people talking about boycotting it?
For all we know this might not be a 'downgrade' Capcom might have realised "Well it's a niche title in the west" and were planning on the digital venue all along.

Geez they are just putting nails in AA's coffin with that.

I don't want people to speak of the AA fandom the same way they speak of the Sonic fandom.


If I remember correctly it was planned to be digital from the very beginning, they just didn't announce that publicly until recently. Maybe Capcom should have mentioned that part when they announced a release back in September, if only to ride the "OMG We're Getting the game!" vibe.

Now, realistically, most of these people saying they'll "boycott" the game will no doubt buy it when it comes out, and are just trying to bluff themselves into getting a physical release. (Just like the people who said they'd never buy another Capcom game after AAI2 wasn't localized. I doubt that happened.) So I'm hoping that the huge numbers of people "boycotting" the game won't affect sales too badly, but I'm a little worried about it.
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Pierre wrote:
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I checked out the trailer on youtube and it's a nightmare. People are saying they'll boycott the game because of it not having a physical retail release, despite them not knowing a damn thing about how the situation works. Getting pretty pissed off, because they say things like "the series deserves to be in retail form!". Y'lnow what else the series deserves? To not have a bunch of whiney babies with such animosity towards the digital outlet that they'll let such a great franchise die an unfair and stupid death because they feel they know what's best for it :chinami:

What they don't even realise is that it was e-shop or not being localised at all :gumshoe:


Is there really so many people talking about boycotting it?


Enough to worry me.

And I certainly hope they can't resist the urge to purchase the game once the release date comes around the corner. God help us if they still think not buying the game will make Capcom change their minds and release it physically :nick-sweat: Gotta have hope, I guess :phoenix:
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Professor Yoshi wrote:
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Professor Yoshi wrote:
I checked out the trailer on youtube and it's a nightmare. People are saying they'll boycott the game because of it not having a physical retail release, despite them not knowing a damn thing about how the situation works. Getting pretty pissed off, because they say things like "the series deserves to be in retail form!". Y'lnow what else the series deserves? To not have a bunch of whiney babies with such animosity towards the digital outlet that they'll let such a great franchise die an unfair and stupid death because they feel they know what's best for it :chinami:

What they don't even realise is that it was e-shop or not being localised at all :gumshoe:


Is there really so many people talking about boycotting it?


Enough to worry me.

And I certainly hope they can't resist the urge to purchase the game once the release date comes around the corner. God help us if they still think not buying the game will make Capcom change their minds and release it physically :nick-sweat: Gotta have hope, I guess :phoenix:


My guess is that they will. Especially since Capcom is doing this "You'll see what we're doing soon enough, there's a method to our madness, etc." thing. If they were just going to release it in autumn as a $39.99 game digitally just like anything else they wouldn't have any more to say, and they've denied that it's being released episodically. So my guess is there's some additional bonus or something if you buy it and the price is cheaper than a retail 3DS game. I think that might get some of these people to buy it.

Capcom and the fans should know eachother by now. The fans should know that what they say will have very little influence over Capcom's business strategy, and Capcom should have expected this reaction (my guess is that they did). So I'm hoping that the eShop release will still be more than successful even with the boycotts because Capcom has prepared for them.
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Wake me up when an online petition for Shenmue 3 is successful as well. :yuusaku:
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Don't hit me, but I've got the first three games only in digital form on my Wii and I don't see the problem at all :sawit:
Nothing wrong with downloadable games in my opinion. Besides, these kind of games are rarely sold in the (offline) stores where I live anyway.


That's okay. I first played AA on my second generation iPod Touch. I then played 2 and 3 on Wii, and then Apollo Justice and Investigations on DS.

Downloadable games are great ways for niche titles like AA to reach Western markets. Of course I'd want a psychical release, but it's nothing worth complaining about nor should anyone "boycott the game."
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From what I recall, there was no AAI2 in America because of poor sales projections. I imagine that the digital release is being done as a cost-saving measure, to make up for the expectation: That Phoenix Wright is a niche product that only appeals to a small mystery-loving crowd. Business-wise, I really can't fault them for thinking as a company - if they didn't, they wouldn't stay around long enough to make games.

If you want to petition someone, I'd say petition other gamers - make Ace Attorney popular enough that other companies are making pathetic imitations of its gameplay, and Capcom will have a guaranteed market.
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Sixth Pegasus wrote:
Don't hit me, but I've got the first three games only in digital form on my Wii and I don't see the problem at all :sawit:
Nothing wrong with downloadable games in my opinion. Besides, these kind of games are rarely sold in the (offline) stores where I live anyway.

I'm in the exact same position as you. The first 3 I owned were on WiiWare.
(I was lucky to find AJ in a discount store, and AAI was sold here as well)
So digital is absolutely fine with me.
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Okay, there are a lot of annoying problems with a digital release (mostly due to Nintendo's e-shop rather than Capcom)
But boycott the game? Oh come on don't shoot us all in the foot. :sadshoe:
Shouldn't the priority be games we have no word of release of at all?
Still nothing about PL vs PW! It's about time that got a new petition or something. The old ones were all addressed to Capcom, not Level-5, at Capcom's request (what)
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As far as the whole digital release thing goes, the following link may shed some light on Svens thoughts:
http://www.capcom-unity.com/ask_capcom/ ... #532500435

I would absolutely say that us AA fans need to take stock of the situation, and regard exactly what's said here as being pretty much a good indication of how things are right now...that the AAI total sales are what they are using as a current 'past sales data' source, which were the lowest of the series in the west, and not those of AA4 before it.

AA5 is simply going to need people buying it - there's no reason to boycott if you want this game...
it's a counterproductive move, and is going to cost us FAR more than it is likely to gain at this point. :lana:
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As far as the whole digital release thing goes, the following link may shed some light on Svens thoughts:
http://www.capcom-unity.com/ask_capcom/ ... #532500435

I would absolutely say that us AA fans need to take stock of the situation, and regard exactly what's said here as being pretty much a good indication of how things are right now...that the AAI total sales are what they are using as a current 'past sales data' source, which were the lowest of the series in the west, and not those of AA4 before it.

AA5 is simply going to need people buying it - there's no reason to boycott if you want this game...
it's a counterproductive move, and is going to cost us FAR more than it is likely to gain at this point. :lana:



So....

Should us CRian's flock to the Unity forums under a banner of anti-boycotting?
Seems most folks here are of the same mindset about that.
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LTTP. My thoughts are about the same as everyone else here's. Now, I like walking out of the store with a plastic shrink-wrapped box of joy as much as the next guy, but surely this is nothing worth petitioning or "boycotting". A digital release is more practical in pretty much every way. Printing, distributing, and shipping the game physically in other countries would probably cost a lot more money, and the more money they save on that, the more likely they are to profit from the localized product. And the better the profits, the better the chances of having more AA come our way. Releasing it digitally is a much faster process too, so we're getting the game sooner than usual. Win-win!

The way I see it, digital distribution is a great opportunity for the series. The only real downside I can see is not being able to buy the game if you don't have internet access. But these are online petitions people are making, sooooo :yuusaku:
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The only real downside I can see is not being able to buy the game if you don't have internet access. But these are online petitions people are making, sooooo :yuusaku:


Well it's a bit more complex, people complain about Nintendo's digital only games because -region lock, you can only buy from your regions' store (Hey they never confirmed it for AU!)
-games tied to your 3ds hardware so if it breaks you lose your game, it's more like a rental as long as that 3ds works
-buying 3ds, but well, come on

However, if you want to make a stand on principle, boycott a game which can weather a boycott without killing the franchise being sold here?

Now I can't see a problem in petitions to demand a physical release AS WELL, but if these people are planning to not buy the digital game when they could have....

ANYWAY I'm sick of waiting for PL vs PW:AA to even be announced so I made another petition. This one will be sent to Level-5 International. I think all the old ones were to Capcom. Petitions alone do nothing but maybe Level-5 needs a bit bigger hint than they've been getting. When it reaches some number of 'signatures' (depends how many it attracts) I will personally print it out and mail to to every contact I can find on their websites, by urgent looking priority mail in huge package less likely to be thrown out :) Um, just fill out as much 'real' info as you feel comfortable, or use a fake name or whatever. Most of the fields are 'optional'.

Please SIGN IT.

And please promote it to other people if you agree, because I'm 'supposed' to be busy at the moment :sadshoe:

I don't think that game store site 'confirmed' a release, because wasn't that the same site that made a fake box art years ago? I'm remembering in AU we used to think that PW3 would be released here because some AU game stores/sites listed an actual release date, but it NEVER HAPPENED. And when I emailed Nintendo about it, they claimed it had not been cancelled, but the release had never existed. That and GK2, I refuse to 'assume' anything will just be localised, even with Layton's popularity (they already have a zillion other Layton games to sell).
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@Icer: Now this is something I can get behind. PLvAA really needs to get over here. Signed.
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@Icer: Now this is something I can get behind. PLvAA really needs to get over here. Signed.


Listen, online petitions almost NEVER work under any circumstances. The majority of game companies release/localize a title if it serves their own interests. I see no reason why PL. vs. AA shouldn't come to the West. Both are popular fanchises that have solid reasonably well here, but Professor Layton especially is enough justification. It just takes Level 5 a long time to localize their games. It takes TWO YEARS on average for their games to get released outside of Japan. I really hope it doesn't take that long with future games. Recently they opened up an international studio in the USA to quicken localization time, so hopefully we'll be seeing these games faster.

Now if only we could get other great visual novels like Time Travelers and 428: In a Blockaded Shibuya. :payne:
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@Icer: Now this is something I can get behind. PLvAA really needs to get over here. Signed.


Listen, online petitions almost NEVER work under any circumstances. The majority of game companies release/localize a title if it serves their own interests. I see no reason why PL. vs. AA shouldn't come to the West. Both are popular fanchises that have solid reasonably well here, but Professor Layton especially is enough justification. It just takes Level 5 a long time to localize their games. It takes TWO YEARS on average for their games to get released outside of Japan. I really hope it doesn't take that long with future games. Recently they opened up an international studio in the USA to quicken localization time, so hopefully we'll be seeing these games faster.

Now if only we could get other great visual novels like Time Travelers and 428: In a Blockaded Shibuya. :payne:


Oh, I know that. But at least we can show support in /some/ way. (It's either that or spamming their facebook page. Which... I don't think would work as well. xP)
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kwando wrote:
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kwando wrote:
@Icer: Now this is something I can get behind. PLvAA really needs to get over here. Signed.


Listen, online petitions almost NEVER work under any circumstances. The majority of game companies release/localize a title if it serves their own interests. I see no reason why PL. vs. AA shouldn't come to the West. Both are popular fanchises that have solid reasonably well here, but Professor Layton especially is enough justification. It just takes Level 5 a long time to localize their games. It takes TWO YEARS on average for their games to get released outside of Japan. I really hope it doesn't take that long with future games. Recently they opened up an international studio in the USA to quicken localization time, so hopefully we'll be seeing these games faster.

Now if only we could get other great visual novels like Time Travelers and 428: In a Blockaded Shibuya. :payne:


Oh, I know that. But at least we can show support in /some/ way. (It's either that or spamming their facebook page. Which... I don't think would work as well. xP)


I think the whole Operation Rainfall campaign had some effect on releasing Xenoblade Chronicles, The Last Story, and Pandora's Tower in the US, but I'm not sure if it was the sole reason. Unfortunately, most game companies won't release a game just because a certain group of fans want them. Why do you think we don't have GK2 yet? Anyways, E3 is just around the corner; so hopefully we'll see some kind of announcement regarding PL. vs. AA.

Worst case scenario is that it doesn't get announced this year. That would really suck, but keep in mind that we ARE getting Dual Destinies this fall, and Professor Layton 6 soon afterwards. They might want to prevent an over-saturation of titles in the same release window. Judging from Level 5's previous release schedules, I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't get it until Fall 2014. :payne:
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I dont mind at all if its only in download form and not a physical release. At least we're GETTING THE GAME and thats' something.
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They're probably doing it to save money and after GK2 we should be grateful we're getting it at all.

If you need a physical copy, just get the Japanese version and then download the English version.

Good luck though, you're really going to need it.
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icer wrote:
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The only real downside I can see is not being able to buy the game if you don't have internet access. But these are online petitions people are making, sooooo :yuusaku:


Well it's a bit more complex, people complain about Nintendo's digital only games because -region lock, you can only buy from your regions' store (Hey they never confirmed it for AU!)
-games tied to your 3ds hardware so if it breaks you lose your game, it's more like a rental as long as that 3ds works
-buying 3ds, but well, come on
Wuh? Admittedly I don't have a 3ds yet so I'm a bit in the dark about this eShop stuff, but it seems kinda lame for games to be confined to the hardware with no way of transferring. It makes more sense to give players an account they can tie their stuff to. :eh?: Guess Nintendo hasn't fixed all the flaws in their online experience yet. And I think if they're releasing it in America and Europe, it'll come to Australia. It's like I said, they don't have to take a chance on spending all the money for a physical release anymore, so it would just be a waste not to make it available there.

I signed your petition, but I'm still hoping they're just dragging their heels before making the announcement for some reason. We'll see what E3 brings, I suppose.
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Personally, I really like digital games; but they have to be done right. With Apple, you can download the same thing multiple times just as long as all the devices are linked to your account. That way you don't have to pay for something again if you've already bought it, and your purchases aren't lost if you break or lose your device. Nintendo really has to do this, because you download games from the eShop directly to your 3DS. That's it. There's no backup, nor is there any way to get the game back if you lose or break your machine. :yuusaku:
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Personally, I really like digital games; but they have to be done right. With Apple, you can download the same thing multiple times just as long as all the devices are linked to your account. That way you don't have to pay for something again if you've already bought it, and your purchases aren't lost if you break or lose your device. Nintendo really has to do this, because you download games from the eShop directly to your 3DS. That's it. There's no backup, nor is there any way to get the game back if you lose or break your machine. :yuusaku:


I will say one thing about Nintendo from my personal standpoint. Yeah, I really wish they did online accounts to make digital shopping better, however their systems are pretty durable if taken good care of. Yeah, there's a little bit of fear of it getting lost if my system goes kaput, but I have a lot more faith in my Nintendo system staying in good condition where that won't happen, as opposed to say Microsoft. Honestly, I think I'm quite lucky having one of the few early 360s that didn't Red Ring.
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Personally, I really like digital games; but they have to be done right. With Apple, you can download the same thing multiple times just as long as all the devices are linked to your account. That way you don't have to pay for something again if you've already bought it, and your purchases aren't lost if you break or lose your device. Nintendo really has to do this, because you download games from the eShop directly to your 3DS. That's it. There's no backup, nor is there any way to get the game back if you lose or break your machine. :yuusaku:


I will say one thing about Nintendo from my personal standpoint. Yeah, I really wish they did online accounts to make digital shopping better, however their systems are pretty durable if taken good care of. Yeah, there's a little bit of fear of it getting lost if my system goes kaput, but I have a lot more faith in my Nintendo system staying in good condition where that won't happen, as opposed to say Microsoft. Honestly, I think I'm quite lucky having one of the few early 360s that didn't Red Ring.


I'm certain if you link your 3DS eshop to your Clubnintendo account it keeps an eye on some things you have. You can register all your games with them that way.
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