Personally again(as I have said in capcom-unity) I don't mind a digital release at all. Its just that I was mentally prepared to pre-order it and get that awesome figure that the Japanese fans will be having....but I heart shall be empty....Nevertheless I think I will buy it because Nick is going to be in 3D :D

I just hope that Capcom suddenly does not troll with us with a sudden physical release with bonus items...
I
Will
KILL
THEM
IF THAT HAPPENDS

Not if they're the ONLY factor in anything, like if it had been 'cancelled'/rejected or something.

But we have prospects to get the game, like you implied.

Who knows, maybe they'd take it as a nice 'suggestion' to release PL vs PW sooner rather than later, or show to their JP superiors there 'is current demand' or something. (The straw that broke the camel's back...change to a positive metaphor)

Come on, don't you remember Capcom (was it still the Sven guy?) goading us into 'posting' on their capcom site we wanted it? Clearly there is some 'consumer demand' they like to have to show for things. Maybe it has to be approved by JP first or something.

Also: it takes longer to refuse to 'sign' a petition and complain about how they're useless than to sign it...

Now if you have a better idea to get that game tell me what it is? We've waited patiently around...

Thanks to the people who signed ♥

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You have to understand that Phoenix Wright is an extremely niche series. Ace Attorney, which has seen countless releases and ports, has only sold slightly more than 4 million copies in total. If you want an example, take Mother 3. People have begged Nintendo to localize that game for years. There's been petitions, none which have worked. A group did release a fan translation patch, and it got downloaded over 100,000 times. Now look at it from the perspective of Nintendo. 100,000 is a decent number, but I highly doubt it's worth it to them to spend the time and resources knowing that it would only sell around that. Compare that to another handheld game like Fire Emblem: Awakening which sold over 240,000 copies (about 500,000 if you want to include Japanese sales), then you have justification for localization.

Either way, it's not in the hands of Capcom to localize the game. That rests on the shoulders of Level 5, since they're the publisher of the game. Unlike Ace Attorney, Professor Layton has sold over 14 million units; so that should be reason alone to localize the game. Plus, it would raise interest in Ace Attorney as well. Hopefully they'll make an announcement at E3 2013, but expect to wait a long time for this game.

Now if you REALLY want to tell Level 5 and Capcom that you want this game, don't sign a petition that only has 10 signatures. First off, buy any titles that they dish out in the coming months. We have the Ace Attorney HD Trilogy coming out next week, so buy that. Dual Destinies comes out this Fall, so obviously get that. Finally, the sixth Professor Layton game is slated for release soon afterwards, so get that as well. That's the easy way to show your support. If you want a more direct approach. Try emailing Level 5 International and tell them you want this game. I highly doubt it would affect anything, but it's better than a petition with very few signatures. So really, the best way is just to buy all of Capcom and Level 5's future games.

No, that's why this one is to Level-5!

Wow, you must really hate petitions... Why so negative?



Never get any response. Of course, people can that do too if they want to.

Now okay, I've never ever heard of most of the games Level-5 puts out, so I don't see why 'obscurity' is the issue. Buying PL might make sense. Buying all Level-5s games (let alone all Capcom's) doesn't because why would they need to hurry up with PL vs PW then?

People should buy PW on iOS (if they have an iWhatever) regardless, to show 'popularity' although does Level-5 even care about Capcom sales figures, if they even get them? Sven never told us about what happened with PL vs PW and Capcom. We assume Level-5 gets rights due to Layton's greater popularity but who knows. You have no idea how Level-5's localisation decisions/priorities work so why all these assumptions of what is 'useless' or not?

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I don't hate petitions, I hate pointless things that won't change a damn thing. It's not like I don't want this game to get localized, but simply trying to get people to sign a petition isn't going to change anything. If you can give me an example of when a petition for a video game actually ever worked, I'd love to hear it.



Yeah, and do you really think you'd get a response even if you sent in the petition? It barely has any signatures as is!



Okay, I guess I could have phrased that a little better. What I meant was that fans should buy all Phoenix Wright and Ace Attorney related games that both companies release in the coming months. Companies release/localize a game if it's PROFITABLE. That's what all business is about. I even mentioned this in my last post by giving you those sales figures. It should be painfully obvious that petitions almost NEVER WORK 99% of the time. They hardly even work in real life with things like politics and other civil issues. No offense, but I think you're being a little too optimistic here and aren't seeing the bigger picture. Level 5 will localize the game if THEY see it as profitable. We don't have GK2, we don't have Mother 3, and we don't have a lot of other games because they simply aren't profitable in Western markets.

Operation Rainfall

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I've talked about Operation Rainfall before, but it actually hasn't been explicitly revealed if it really had any effect on localizing the games. They likely just thought that the games would be profitable, since they sold well enough in Japan and Europe. Professor Layton vs. Ace Attorney didn't even do that well in Japan in the first place.

http://www.siliconera.com/2012/12/08/pr ... -so-great/

Well of course not if Nintendo came out and flat-out said "Yes it's because of Operation Rainfall" there would be Chaos! People would know that petitioning like that would actually work! Games companies everywhere would be flooded with renewed attempts and harassments for cancelled and denied projects because hey it would be confirmed that it wasn't impossible! Project Rainfall did something but it'll never be officially confirmed as the cause.



Cue Operation Rainfall.

It happens.

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Eh, I guess they had some effect on releasing those games; but keep in mind that they were popular enough in Japan and Europe already. Unless PL vs. AA (which hasn't even sold that well) had a MASSIVE, MASSIVE campaign on the scale of Operation Rainfall, then you might see something. I highly doubt there would be "mass chaos" like you said. It all just depends on what games you want to get released. Something like PL vs. AA is a niche title that only appeals to fans of one or both series. Since PL is already pretty popular, I think that's enough justification to localize it anyways, but that's besides the point.

There IS a market for JRPGs in the West, and Xenoblade, The Last Story, and Pandora's Tower are prime examples of that. These games would obviously sell well enough here anyways. I don't really think that a petition would really have changed that. Like I mentioned before, it more has to do with sales.


Besides, Operation Rainfall was more of a strategic sending of emails to Nintendo and other persuasion techniques. They did much more than just simply signing a petition and calling it a day. Visual novels are much more niche than JRPGs. You also have to consider that the market for games like Xenoblade is substantially higher than that of something like Phoenix Wright. Like I've constantly mentioned, though: Professor Layton will likely be the main reason for localizing these games. That series is practically a cash cow at over 14 million copies sold. Beyond that, there's little else the fans can do other then to continue showing support for both series.

Eh it's fan action, petitioning is just a way of combining that instead of every individual supporter sending an email to the company (like many on Rainfall did) besides Icer already suggested the email idea and you bashed it down with the rest of the petition thing.

Yes perhaps there wouldn't be mass chaos but it would certainly be a cornerstone in the consumer-developer relationship from then on and I bet some folks would up and cause a ruckus (looking at you MML3 supporters).

Point is you asked for a situation where petitioning worked. I gave you one.

I hardly have all the hope that the petition will sway a company, Project Rainfall may be an exception to the rule but there's no reason to go stamping out hope other folks have in the petition.

After all should it actually work we'd all feel pretty foolish and awkward for doubting the believers.

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Signing petitions is one of those things that gives people a false sense of hope that they've actually done something. I could name something like recycling or donating to dubious charities with seemingly noble causes (*cough* Invisible Children *cough*) as other examples, but back on the topic at hand. It was actually ME who brought up emailing Level 5. When Icer mentioned that they never respond, all I said was that it wouldn't really be that much more effective than the petition in the first place. I guess there's no point in emailing, if they don't even respond to their fans. I remember just asking them if they had any plans at all to localize Time Travelers, but I never received a response. Probably should have known better anyways.



Listen, there's always rifts in the consumer-developer relationship. Fans ask companies to release and localize games ALL THE TIME. Operation Rainfall just happens to be a larger example that coincidentally led to the release of the games . Fans have begged Nintendo to release Mother 3, and that hasn't happened. You mentioned Mega Man Legends 3, and that hasn't happened yet either. The point is, nothing is ever really in the hands of the fans. The companies decide what gets released and what doesn't. It's pretty much irrelevant whether the fans like it or not. Look at EA. I'm sure that most people hate them, but they're still in business because people still buy their games.

I'm not trying to destroy anyone's hopes. All I'm doing is presenting the hard cold facts realistically. I don't like how things are either, but that's just how business works. Money is what makes the world go round as they say.

I have emailed Level-5. I have directed others to in the past, (including on these forums) to see if they'd get a reply (me not being in the USA and all). And well, none of us have ever gotten any responses. So I'm hardly going to post it here, on a completely unrelated thread. (Although I do actually encourage everyone to do so, even with no replies.) This thread is about PETITIONS. Now what spam filter in the sky do you think their feedback form goes to? Mail (a large printed petition) goes in the bin too, but it tends to have slightly more effect with everything electronic these days.

I agree Kony2012 and most online 'activism' (which doesn't consist of full scale subversion) is complete garbage. But unlike Kony2012, have I claimed we WILL get the game 'by signing'? Like you could somehow Stop Kony just by making a video go viral or save the world by clicking whatever. It's just another thing to try, and it may be a small factor in maybe getting the game sooner or ever.


And sincerely, this is about the first time in my life I've been accused of that rather than the opposite. Hmmmmm......


You're not in a position to judge the 'cold hard facts realistically'. None of us are. We have zero idea of the many situations and factors at Level-5, Capcom (there's still rights issues with presenting 'Phoenix') and how they affect when/if it's localised. That's why we just try some new approach, when clearly the status quo is just continuing. You present illogical arguments we won't get it because PW is niche, while simultaneously saying PL is bestseller. Did I ever say on the petition localise it 'because of Phoenix Wright'?

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Have 1,000,000 people even played the AA series?

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I love how your avatar goes perfectly with this question.

Though yeah I think the petition creator sort of rocketed out of proportion here.

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I don't get it then. Why would you send emails or petitions to them if you know that you're not going to get a response? And exactly how many signatures do you want on this petition anyways? You have eleven signatures so far. You seriously think that you're going to get 1,000,000 signatures? At least start at something small like 1,000 and move on from there. I also highly doubt that any petition from "gopettion.com" is going to work at all. At least Operation Rainfall was strategic in their approach on emailing and petitioning Nintendo, though like I mentioned before I'm seriously doubting whether or not they had any real effect on localization.



Why do you say that we have "zero idea?" We might not know everything, but I think that it's pretty obvious how they do things. How come all the Professor Layton games get localized? Because they're PROFITABLE. How come we don't have Time Travelers? Because that's a visual novel game that has almost no gameplay. Which IP do you think has a better chance of selling outside of Japan? I'm not even saying that the game isn't going to get localized either. Personally, I think that there's a VERY high chance that it will. At least more of a chance than something as niche like Time Travelers. The point is that since Level 5 is the publisher, and Professor Layton is part of the game; why SHOULDN'T they release it if PL has shown to be consistently popular?

I also think that you're being a little hasty. It's only been about six months since the Japanese release. Wait about a year, and then you can decide what to do from there. If you've ever played a Level 5 game before, you know how long it takes for them to get released. It always takes at least 18 months to two and a half years. Don't start a petition or campaign until you know for sure that the game won't get released. You simply don't at this time.

...Meh...
I'm one of those people that want the physical release on my shelve with games...
Mat already said how easy it is to make one fo myself but it just isn't the same thing....

But here's the thing now; I said I want to. Not need to.
Heck yeah I'm gonna get this digital version and I don't care we don't get the box or game chart
....okay maybe it bothers me a bit BUT NOT ENOUGH.
I get it; the sales makes it not worth the trouble to have it other way
and let's not even start with the 'even a small profit would still be profit' thing.
NOT WORTH IT /case closed & let's be happy we get it at all.

I've never bought anything from this...DS...shop...thing....
...It needs Wi-Fi right? ...owait...ofcourse it does....
Anyway; I'm gonna get some of this....DS...shop....money...
and then go to our library here. I recently found out there's Wi-Fi access.
And I hate to do stuff like this in public, you know, have a DS around so people see it....
But I'm gonna do it! Ace Attorney 5 man!

....Now I just need to learn how the heck the Wi-Fi thing works...
Oh well....I guess I still have time....

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I thought that they accepted credit cards directly in the shop.

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They do.

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Because maybe they see them even if they don't respond, which apparently takes effort (why no form emails????). I don't believe a petition has ever been sent so we don't know, do we?



When did I ever say that?

What's your problem, anyway? Does it fulfill some psychological need of empowerment to be so unnecessarily negative about some neutral occurrence you could just ignore? Is it some kind of threat to you? How do you think this is helping anyone get the game?

If it probably does nothing, at least it's not having negative impact. Why don't you direct your uncritical negative attention at an actual scam? The world is full of them. Go and complain about those people trying to boycott GS5 or something.



Why was PL popular/bestseller? Because Nintendo itself marketed it to the max in the West as one of those games for the Touch Generations 'new' type of gamer (along with things like Brain Age). What's that got to do with anything. Why are you saying PL was PROFITABLE so we won't ever get this PL GAME? What.


Ugh, that's when petitions don't do anything. When they've already decided it's never worth releasing, not when they're still making up their mind. You've contradicted yourself and all your earlier negativity about petitions doing nothing. That's when they ARE guaranteed to do nothing.

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That's like trying to yell at a deaf person in the hopes that they'll hear you. If online petitions hardly work on game companies, let alone one that doesn't even respond to their fans, what hope do you think this one has!?



I probably just confused the 1,000,000 signatures thing with the OTHER petition. You know, the whole AA5 physical release thing. Either way, I think that neither one will do much of anything.



Okay, I actually laughed at this one. "Psychological need for empowerment?" Are you serious? You're a random person on the Internet whom I've never met starting some petition that's already doomed to fail. Do whatever you want. I really don't care. It might not affect me personally in the slightest, but when I see something that I view as pointless and a waste of time, I can state my opinion and reasons why I think that. What about you? If you really feel that strongly about this, why not ignore ME and just move on? I don't have to stay silent just to make YOU feel comfortable. I can speak my mind and you can either take it or leave it.



Ah...no. First off, Professor Layton was NOT marketed as Touch Generations title in ANY territory. You can see the list here if you want.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_To ... ons_titles

Secondly, have you been listening listening to anything I've said? In my last posts, I mentioned that PL vs. AA already has a high chance of being localized here BECAUSE Professor Layton is so popular. Since PL has already sold millions of copies worldwide, that's already enough reason for them to release the game.



Like I said before, the game already has a high chance of being localized already. Level 5 even did a survey asking gamers what unlocalized title they want released the most, and PL vs. AA won the most votes. Why do you need a petition that won't even reach 50 signatures, when all that's missing is an official announcement that's very likely around the corner? Don't forget that there's also AA5 and PL6 coming out as well. The game isn't in danger of being unlocalized. If you want an example of that, look at Mother 3 or Time Travelers.

If you have a right to 'express your opinion' on a meaningless forum, people who want this game have a right to express their opinion to Level-5 via a 'meaningless petition'. And what has your opinion done, exactly?

You must feel really affected, since you've kept up this 'arguing' for the last x days... without ever presenting any new information. Your attitude piqued my curiosity. But you still haven't presented any coherent reasons behind your attitude.

"Doomed to fail'? 'Fail' is we never get the game. And what has 'failed' the 2 seconds it takes someone to sign it? Take the risk-reward thing. Oh no someone spent 2 seconds of their time (way shorter than it takes for you to spread your negativity here) and MAYBE it might make it slightly more likely to get the game (the ultimate positive outcome). Vs not spending 2 seconds. Oh nooooooo that was risky. What odds are we working with? We don't know, but they sure aren't the guaranteed 100% fail (or pass, since you simultaneously claim we'll get it anyway. Well okay how about sooner?) you 'assume' they are. Any improved chance is better than none.



You seem pretty 'uncomfortable' about this 'petition'. I find it interesting you have such an overreaction and don't ignore it yourself. There doesn't seem to be a coherent justification. It's all either waah we won't ever get it anyway or oh we will get it anyway so it shouldn't be allowed. If it has no impact like you claim, well why do you care whether or not it exists in the first place? And you do care, since you're so desperate to keep complaining about it (not to mention other case studies).



Who cares. It was promoted to the max by Nintendo itself to the 'new type of non-traditional gamer', along with the Wii. Even if it didn't get stamped with an official Touch Generations logo it was all the same type of thing.



So where is it? Nothing you've said has been a valid reason to ban the option of taking a chance on a petition that takes 2 seconds to sign.



Your previous logic: Oh no we shouldn't have voted, because expression of our opinion to Level-5 (feedback form, petitions, voting) is a waste of time and has no effect on whether or not (or when) we get the game! Oh, stay consistent in your arguments.

You're right though: I should have just ignored you. There's always a place for constructive criticism and understanding other people's opinions, but you haven't had anything 'constructive' to say about this situation. Also, since the thread title is about a different petition, it just makes the thread confusing now.

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Confusing argument is confusing.

Anyways, I would considering Dual Destinies as a petition in and of itself to bring future Ace Attorney games westward (and perhaps even in retail form). The fact that it's digital only speaks volumes about how lucky we were to get it in the first place. If you want a physical release for future Ace Attorney games in the West (or the possibility of having them released in the West at all), the place to start is by supporting this game. Personally, I'm a little disappointed that there isn't a box that I can display on my shelf for it...but I'd sure as heck prefer a digital release to no release at all.

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Yes it's quite nice seeing someone other than me arguing on the forums for once.

Though yeah Dual Destinies is pretty much one of those horrible examples of 'voting' with your wallet.
Was recently revealed to me that Fire Emblem: Awakening was under a similar condition where if it didn't sell 200k copies they wouldn't make another. So perhaps AA5 is running on the same tightrope.

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Alright, this is the last post I'm going to write for this thread. It doesn't matter what I say, because you clearly can't see that this petition is completely useless.



My opinions haven't done anything? Sure, why not. The real question here is what has YOUR petition done? You have 12 signatures as of now on some random site. That hardly seems like that much work done on your part.



New information? What new information do you exactly want? All I'm doing is giving you MY reasons for why I don't support this. When I see something that I view as pointless and a waste of time, why shouldn't I be allowed to say anything? Of course, you're welcome to refute what I say; but right now I'm just refuting back.



By "Doomed to fail" I meant that your petition will have no effect on whether the game gets released or not. If it only takes 2 seconds to sign your petition, how come you don't have tons of signatures already? Why doesn't every online petition have tons of signatures? The amount of time to sign something doesn't matter if people don't care or don't support it.



Why would I feel uncomfortable? All I'm pointing out is that a poorly done and poorly executed campaign isn't going to work. You call my responses "overreaction" but all I'm doing is responding to each rebuttal you present. Either way, it's your time wasted not mine.



It's barely been six months since the game came out in Japan. Level 5 takes a long time with their localizations. Look at Ni no Kuni. The PS3 version came out in November 2011 in Japan, but not till January 2013 in Western territories. There wasn't any petition for that game, even when Level 5 had no official announcements regarding localization. For most of their games, it takes a lot of work for there to be a good localized script and actually implement it into the game. It's no wonder it takes so long. At least wait until E3 or some other Nintendo Direct conferences have passed before jumping to any conclusions.



I mentioned the poll because that was something that Level 5 OFFICIALLY did and it was covered by all major game sites at the time. Of course they're going to listen to their fans if they're doing something so official and widely publicized. I highly doubt they're going to look at a petition that probably won't even reach 50 signatures. And like we both know, they don't seem to answer their mail either.

And if you seriously think that your petition will work, consider this. Why don't we have Mother 3? Why don't we have Policenauts? These kinds of games have seen massive petitions and emails from fans everywhere, but we still don't have them. Why? Because in the end it just isn't enough. Companies look at markets and see if there's a profit to be made from localizing a game. PL vs. AA already has a high chance of being localized because it's from one series that's already massively successful. You don't need a petition for that and I can't reiterate this enough. I've told you this many times in my last posts, but you don't seem realize this.

Either way, I'm done. Waste your time and delude yourself for all I care. If/when the game does come out, it won't be because of your petition. I've seen this kind of thing time and time again both online and in real life. Petitions never work 99% of the time and yours is no different. I have nothing more to say and I won't be posting here anymore.

Because the sole place I have posted about it is in this thread, which is now behind several pages of your 'useful' contributions. It's just factual to get signatures you promote it where people see it, not lost in the pages of a thread not even about the same petition. I can only assume the petitions with no signatures the people never promote it anywhere like the world will magically find it somehow. I don't have time to promote it at the moment, but I figured no time like the present to make it.



That's nice, just 'assuming' it would be one of those.
I will remind everyone, we DID get Phoenix in UMvC, a major coup. Although the petition would have not been a major factor in that one but it was still used for bargaining about 'popularity' (I credit it mainly to us effectively breaking their 'suggestion box' so the haters complained to them and then they read our suggestions rather than ignoring like they usually did). But it's always a cumulation of a lot of things (including how borderline the decision is whether or not to do it and how soon at the actual company)

Default complete pessimism is usually wrong and very closed minded. The world is complex. Yes, a lot of petitions in the world probably did nothing. That doesn't mean going on some anti-petition crusade every time one is mentioned, because it will have 100% zero impact 100% of the time in 100% of possible scenarios and conditions which you somehow think you know about. And I still don't understand the logic behind your anti-petition crusade.

Then you do the complete reversal and claim we shouldn't sign it 'because' it will be localised anyway, like you have 100% faith in THAT statement, even though you just went on about PW being niche and not getting it bla bla bla. That's just as naive. If we're getting it anyway, how do you know we can't get it sooner or something?

So your basic argument is: we shouldn't have it in the first place because it will have confirmed zero impact 100% of the time in 100% of scenarios so you should just complain about it or something. I suggest you use negative criticism as a tool, not some means to blind your judgement with some kind of irrational black-and-white thinking.



Okay so who looks at a Facebook poll? The mod of their Page at best? (Who's probably an intern or something.) FB communications (including polls) are PR stunts. It's like outsourcing customer relations to somewhere offsite with minimal attention needed by the actual company, where FB just manages almost everything for them. It attracts people to their Page to click 'Like'. People post replies on every Level-5 post 'We want PL vs PW:AA'. And look nobody has to see it. Replies to a post increase the popularity of an original post, that's it. It's not going to 'break' like Capcom's Suggestion Box, FB manages everything nicely FOR them.

The Feedback form at least has to go to Level 5 premises itself. So does printed mail.

So there's nothing particularly profound about the FB poll. It's about the same as a petition or feedback form: they could just ignore it, and there's a large chance they did, although that doesn't mean 'don't bother voting'. MAYBE someone looked at it. So we take a chance.

We don't have to become completely apathetic as a fanbase and just never express our opinions about the games we want just because we assume it will never do anything 100% of the time. Then we really will get nothing. (sales figures are important of course but that goes without SAYING). Oh btw, I read this article interviewing level-5 boss:
http://www.polygon.com/2013/5/29/437529 ... of-running

"What about 2013? ..."Right now, there's a huge wave of smartphone software, and instead of just accommodating for that, we want to seriously tackle it in a way only we can. We created Layton for the people who bought a Nintendo DS for Brain Age but had nothing to play after that, and I feel like the people playing puzzle games and such on smartphones right now are pretty similar to those DS owners who only played Brain Age."

That supposedly was the target market of PL games (which is, um, probably not PW fans? sigh. I fear they think they can get away with not localising this one, or not for ages, because they have enough PL games to sell as it is. But that's just an uneasy possibility in my mind, not some strange negative assertion I think is 100% True).



Fans have gotten 'niche' games on Kickstarter..... but major publishers (eg Sven @ Capcom) won't use it

Like I said before, I'm interested in meaningful ideas on what we fans should do about our 'niche' franchise and the games we don't have (other than the obvious, buy everything you can and don't boycott things from this franchise for OTHER principles).

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I don't think there's anything wrong about being realistic about these kinds of things. By all means, filling in a petition is not a bad idea and it might work, but sometimes people start to get unrealistic about its chances.

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my stance on this is

why do we need to go around petitioning for physical copies when we're lucky to be getting the game in the first place

i mean seriously. I understand the desire to collect a physical copy, but this is an age where the future will be digital. There's no need to be insufferable and bitch.


A digital-only release allows the game to make more net profit due to the lack of needing to physically produce and ship games.

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I wouldn't be surprised by that at all. If I recall correctly, AA:DD is running aggressive sales forecasts, and it might have taken the combined efforts of those aggressive forecasts + the fact that this game could go the digital only route in order to convince Capcom that it was worth bringing over to America at all.

This is why people who have stated that they refuse to buy the game because it's digital only annoy me so much. The reason it's digital only is because not enough people bought the game in America/Europe to begin with. If you want any shot at having another localized Ace Attorney game with a physical copy, Dual Destinies is the place to start.

As for this petition...I don't really have a problem with it, although at the moment, I doubt it'll do much good. I get the feeling that the DD developers had to fight tooth and nail to convince Capcom's higher ups to bring this game westward, and they only got a digital exclusive copy. Until Ace Attorney starts selling better in the West, there's no way that Capcom will listen to any petitions about physical copies.

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If you've not read the following thread on capcom-unity then, you probably should!

http://www.capcom-unity.com/ace_attorney/go/thread/view/7431/29927813/?pg=last#532760669

I'm kinda annoyed at how insane it's getting there right now, even if it's expected.

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Things calmed down here by themselves thankfully, and even though I'm late, this should be said: I will not tollerate such childish fights. I completely endorse civic discussions and debates, but not this kind of petty fights, regardless of who's right or wrong.

That's pretty much all I wanted to say. Keep it civil. This is a formal warning, and further fighting will result in temporary bans.

Don't make me lock this thread, people, there's room for a legitimate debate here.

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I quite personally see this as a complete waste of time. Sven did say something like instead of listening to fans complaining anout no release at all and begging for a digital release they decided to go straight to the digital release, cutting out the middle part. I am absolutely ecstatic were getting this game localised, why complain about the way were getting it? Of course I would a physical copy of the game but seriously just get over it. Be grateful for what you have and stop looking for more

I sort of agree with tvmadykid.
I'm not very thrilled with the idea of a digital copy being sold, but instead of being happy that we're even getting the damn thing, people are already preparing to bitch and moan about it not being the exact same way they want to get it.
To be honest, I'm not sure I want to this game... most likely, though, I will buy the Japanese version of it. I was rather surprised when I saw what looked like a physical copy of it being sold on Play-Asia.

As for the whole idea of petitions.... seems to me they only ever really work in TV-Series, because of plot. In real life, it's nothing great. So you have 10.000 signatures that state that they want something to happen? Well, want will be their master. Just because you want it, doesn't mean it will happen.

C-A

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There are previous instances where noises from the fans did influenced decisions, which includes "Operation Rainfall" too.

There are lots of demands for a physical release, and I think we should at least try something, and not give up without a fight. There's nothing to lose here.

Capcom has just stated that a physical release is possible if fans demand it. I believe now is the time where we start doing something.

Hey all,

I'm linkhero1 from NeoGAF. I joined because I'm a huge Ace Attorney fan. I am glad the game is coming out here at all, but I'm also saddened at the lack of a physical edition. I'm not only a fan of Ace Attorney, but a collector. I love physical copies of my games on my shelf. Here's my post from NeoGAF. It would be nice if this is edited into the OP.

For those of you who want a physical release of the game, please consider tweeting Sven and Capcom Unity to show support for a physical copy. I know this is Capcom and they could just be saying this like they usually do but it's better than not trying, right?

Twitter:
https://twitter.com/chrissvensson
https://twitter.com/Capcom_Unity

Use the hashtag: #PhoenixWright5LetsGetPhysical or if you find something more appropriate, please use that.

Unfortunately, I do not have email handles for Capcom, so I can't provide that.

Thank you. :)