"I just want to know one thing" - Dual Destinies Edition

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So after watching the gameplay...
Spoiler: About a character's appearance/lack of appearance
Maya's letter and 'appearance' was just a last minute inclusion shoved in there to appease some fans? Ouch. So she's been basically written out for good, if Phoenix hasn't even bothered to tell her he got his badge back...
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jesidres wrote:So after watching the gameplay...
Spoiler: About a character's appearance/lack of appearance
Maya's letter and 'appearance' was just a last minute inclusion shoved in there to appease some fans? Ouch. So she's been basically written out for good, if Phoenix hasn't even bothered to tell her he got his badge back...

Or it could be..
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Prepping up for another GS game where Maya/Mayoi will definitely appear in the most unusual and surprising ways. The fact that Phoenix never really bothered telling Maya that he got his badge back, or I think never mentioning back in AJ that he lost his badge, or implied that Maya even knows that fact is suspicious enough

And I suddenly realized, Hobo Phoenix never really mentioned anything about Maya, even Pearls. It's just like Hobo Phoenix is an entirely different person. Then suddenly, as soon as he got his badge back, he was all Rookie Attorney all over again in DD with his first trial, the nervousness and all.
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If I remember/understood correctly, from the letter it sounded like Maya knows Nick has his badge back :yuusaku:
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What did the letter say? Sorry if it's been asked before.
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Bad Player wrote:
jaydrick0620 wrote:Huh. I can't believe
Spoiler: not really a spoiler?
The Dark Days in Law is only four days. So close to Christmas, even. I feel like the timeline is a little too fast for me.
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The "Dark Days of Law" have actually been going on for the past 7 years ^^"
But Nick said in GS4 that the dark days were still coming? does that make sense? :0
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Yup, they're still going on in GS5.
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PlatinumSamurai wrote:
jesidres wrote:So after watching the gameplay...
Spoiler: About a character's appearance/lack of appearance
Maya's letter and 'appearance' was just a last minute inclusion shoved in there to appease some fans? Ouch. So she's been basically written out for good, if Phoenix hasn't even bothered to tell her he got his badge back...

Or it could be..
Spoiler:
Prepping up for another GS game where Maya/Mayoi will definitely appear in the most unusual and surprising ways. The fact that Phoenix never really bothered telling Maya that he got his badge back, or I think never mentioning back in AJ that he lost his badge, or implied that Maya even knows that fact is suspicious enough

And I suddenly realized, Hobo Phoenix never really mentioned anything about Maya, even Pearls. It's just like Hobo Phoenix is an entirely different person. Then suddenly, as soon as he got his badge back, he was all Rookie Attorney all over again in DD with his first trial, the nervousness and all.
Spoiler: AA4
I'm fairly sure that Phoenix never mentioned Maya or Pearl (directly, anyway) in AJ because he was with people that didn't know them. They were probably present in the real version of the flashback case, but excluded in the recreation made by Nick in the Mason System because they weren't very important to the matter at hand with the forgery. Or at least, we didn't see the obvious interaction they would've had with Nick during the seven year gap.
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Spoiler: Minor spoiler
So does Blackquill use both "Objection" and his unique interjection in court or is there no "Objection" voice clip for him? Because I wondered if they changed his unique interjection to the standard objection in localization.
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AnsweringNOW wrote:
Spoiler: Minor spoiler
So does Blackquill use both "Objection" and his unique interjection in court or is there no "Objection" voice clip for him? Because I wondered if they changed his unique interjection to the standard objection in localization.
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As stated previously, Blackquill uses both in court; "objection!" for regular objections and "shut it!" when he gets annoyed. They'll most likely translate both.
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Blademaster_Orca wrote:
AnsweringNOW wrote:
Spoiler: Minor spoiler
So does Blackquill use both "Objection" and his unique interjection in court or is there no "Objection" voice clip for him? Because I wondered if they changed his unique interjection to the standard objection in localization.
Spoiler:
As stated previously, Blackquill uses both in court; "objection!" for regular objections and "shut it!" when he gets annoyed. They'll most likely translate both.
Yep, at first he only uses "Objection!" but he gets annoyed when
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he broke his handcuffs and everyone panicked
and he starts using "Shut it!" more often. You know, to shut them up xD Actually it's a good quote xD
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I just thought of a very important question: does Edgeworth keep his animations from the original trilogy? I want to see

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Thane wrote:I just thought of a very important question: does Edgeworth keep his animations from the original trilogy? I want to see

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While I haven't played the game, I believe I saw that animation in the game.
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Thane wrote:I just thought of a very important question: does Edgeworth keep his animations from the original trilogy? I want to see

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He does. I'll try and track down a screen of it tonight, if you'd like.
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Bolt Storm wrote:
Thane wrote:I just thought of a very important question: does Edgeworth keep his animations from the original trilogy? I want to see

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He does. I'll try and track down a screen of it tonight, if you'd like.
Oh, I'd love to see it, but I'd hate to be of trouble for you.
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You wanted to see it, and you got it.
Spoiler: Case 5
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linkenski wrote:You wanted to see it, and you got it.
Spoiler: Case 5 spoiler
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Thank you! He looks a bit too sexy and not grumpy enough...Oh well, I can live with that, I'm glad they kept it!
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Do we ever see Uwasa's (Scuttlebutt's) real face?
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Without any plot details, on a scale of 2-1 to 4-1, how good is 5-1?
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GyakutenGodot wrote:Without any plot details, on a scale of 2-1 to 4-1, how good is 5-1?
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Kanji wrote:Do we ever see Uwasa's (Scuttlebutt's) real face?
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Yes. Raijin posted it somewhere in this thread, I believe.
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Kanji wrote:Do we ever see Uwasa's (Scuttlebutt's) real face?
I posted it in the previous page
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linkenski wrote:You wanted to see it, and you got it.
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I preferred the first moment this face showed up.
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Watching him be owned by a robot was priceless. Watching him return the favor by calling her Tanuco was just as priceless.
GyakutenGodot wrote:Without any plot details, on a scale of 2-1 to 4-1, how good is 5-1?
Let's see... I'd say somewhere between 3-1 and 4-1. The beginning is pretty ordinary, but it resolved rather nicely.

...So, uh, is 1-1 even included in that list?
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Rubia Silve Ryu wrote: ...So, uh, is 1-1 even included in that list?
You didn't get the joke? He is referring to the worst and best first case.
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Lusankya wrote:
Rubia Silve Ryu wrote: ...So, uh, is 1-1 even included in that list?
You didn't get the joke? He is referring to the worst and best first case.
I'm just asking if 1-1 is better than 2-1, or if it's so bad that it's not even there. Besides, how else is 5-1 supposed to be between 3-1 and 4-1?
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Rubia Silve Ryu wrote:
Lusankya wrote:
Rubia Silve Ryu wrote: ...So, uh, is 1-1 even included in that list?
You didn't get the joke? He is referring to the worst and best first case.
I'm just asking if 1-1 is better than 2-1, or if it's so bad that it's not even there. Besides, how else is 5-1 supposed to be between 3-1 and 4-1?
On a scala from worst to best (from 2-1 tp 4-1). 2-1 is the worst first case and 4-1 the best, so all the other first cases are inbetween them.
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Rubia Silve Ryu wrote: Let's see... I'd say somewhere between 3-1 and 4-1. The beginning is pretty ordinary, but it resolved rather nicely.

I'm just asking if 1-1 is better than 2-1, or if it's so bad that it's not even there. Besides, how else is 5-1 supposed to be between 3-1 and 4-1?
What do you mean? If you said its between 3-1 and 4-1 that means its better than 3-1, but not as good as 4-1. I mean you rated it, how do you not get the rating system.
Yeah, obviously some people didnt get the joke, 2-1 was the worst do to, amnesia, stupid plot, stupid police, and a terrible criminal. 1-1, although simple, was the start of the series, Mia was there, Larry was the defendant, started the plot thread of why Phoenix became an Attorney, and was just nice and simple as the first case, without a stupid plot. 4-1 was obviously the king of all first cases, I mean who saw that coming (you know what I mean)? It was shaping up to be a normal everyday first case, and than BANG, your mind is blown. I still consider that one of the best AA twists of all time, since no one saw a twist in the first case coming. When something like that happens in the last case, its expected, since plot twists happen all the time there, but in the first case? Never. Previously they were all simple open and shut cases. So yeah, 4-1 is one of my favorite AA cases. Oh and also Hobodobo. [/rant]

Actually, I do have a question, does that ranking include the GK series?
I think the generally accepted rankings are, 4-1, GK2-1, 3-1, GK-1, 1-1, 2-1. At least thats my personal ranking, maybe some people like GK-1 better than 3-1, but I prefer 3-1 do to its overall significance in that game. GK-1 is less significant to GK.
If not can anyone rank 5-1 in regards to both the other GS and GK games?
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I have a question... Case 4 or 5 spoilers.
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Does Kaguya have a breakdown?
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Mr.Devil wrote:I have a question... Case 4 or 5 spoilers.
Spoiler:
Does Kaguya have a breakdown?
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No.
More details:
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You cross-examine her just once, but she isn't present herself. She talks by her robot. So yeah, no breakdown.
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Moni_22 wrote:
Mr.Devil wrote:I have a question... Case 4 or 5 spoilers.
Spoiler:
Does Kaguya have a breakdown?
Spoiler:
No.
More details:
Spoiler:
You cross-examine her just once, but she isn't present herself. She talks by her robot. So yeah, no breakdown.
Spoiler: A question that could potentialy imply the answer for the question above, yeah, I'm that crazy
Does it have a damage animation? Like DeKiller?
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GyakutenGodot wrote:
Rubia Silve Ryu wrote: Let's see... I'd say somewhere between 3-1 and 4-1. The beginning is pretty ordinary, but it resolved rather nicely.

I'm just asking if 1-1 is better than 2-1, or if it's so bad that it's not even there. Besides, how else is 5-1 supposed to be between 3-1 and 4-1?
What do you mean? If you said its between 3-1 and 4-1 that means its better than 3-1, but not as good as 4-1. I mean you rated it, how do you not get the rating system.
Is... is the way I worded my post really that confusing? I got the joke, but now that several people are trying to explain it to me, it's no longer funny. What I meant by "it's so bad that it's not even there" was an attempt at a joke, as if to say "I deny the existence of this piece of garbage". Now, I don't actually believe any of the cases are garbage. Even 2-1, which I consider as the worst case in the series, has its enjoyable perks. No matter how many times I see that breakdown, I have to at least grin.
Actually, I do have a question, does that ranking include the GK series?
I think the generally accepted rankings are, 4-1, GK2-1, 3-1, GK-1, 1-1, 2-1. At least thats my personal ranking, maybe some people like GK-1 better than 3-1, but I prefer 3-1 do to its overall significance in that game. GK-1 is less significant to GK.
If not can anyone rank 5-1 in regards to both the other GS and GK games?
I usually put GK2-1 below 3-1. For your convenience, before playing 5-1, I found 3-1 as second best. Now it's third best. On the surface, 5-1 itself isn't anything special, but given the context in relation to the others, it fits in rather well.
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GK2-1 > 4-1 >> 5-1 > I-1 >> 3-1 > 2-1 = 1-1
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Blademaster_Orca wrote:
Spoiler: 1
In a very quick flashback to AA4, but not in regular gameplay.
2: She's more "professional" than most other assistants, but not by much. Just as quirky and useful/useless as any other.

3: It's used at the very end of the case to wrap everything up. Think of it like a review of everything that happened in the case. You're not penalized for not choosing the right train of thought, so it's really just a review mechanic.
Spoiler: 4
No.
Spoiler: 5
Yes.
I thank you kindly for your answer :gant-jazz: But now this makes me want to know one last thing (I'm sorry!):

Please, please tell me there are no killer butterflies, ice-box jail cells, or college massacres instigated by insane adoptive fathers (I won't say anything about albino sister ghosts because this is Ace Attorney...)...

Weird thing to ask, I know, but... well... Trauma Team. Specifically, CR-S01. After I get the answer to that I'll swear off the GS5 subforum until it's released in the US; I don't want to be spoilered that badly!
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9mayasato9 wrote:Please, please tell me there are no killer butterflies, ice-box jail cells, or college massacres instigated by insane adoptive fathers (I won't say anything about albino sister ghosts because this is Ace Attorney...)...

Weird thing to ask, I know, but... well... Trauma Team. Specifically, CR-S01. After I get the answer to that I'll swear off the GS5 subforum until it's released in the US; I don't want to be spoilered that badly!
Spoiler:
No to all.
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Bad Player wrote:
9mayasato9 wrote:Please, please tell me there are no killer butterflies, ice-box jail cells, or college massacres instigated by insane adoptive fathers (I won't say anything about albino sister ghosts because this is Ace Attorney...)...

Weird thing to ask, I know, but... well... Trauma Team. Specifically, CR-S01. After I get the answer to that I'll swear off the GS5 subforum until it's released in the US; I don't want to be spoilered that badly!
Spoiler:
No to all.
Phew, that's a relief! Thanks! *goes off to browse the rest of C-R*
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9mayasato9 wrote:
Blademaster_Orca wrote:
Spoiler: 1
In a very quick flashback to AA4, but not in regular gameplay.
2: She's more "professional" than most other assistants, but not by much. Just as quirky and useful/useless as any other.

3: It's used at the very end of the case to wrap everything up. Think of it like a review of everything that happened in the case. You're not penalized for not choosing the right train of thought, so it's really just a review mechanic.
Spoiler: 4
No.
Spoiler: 5
Yes.
I thank you kindly for your answer :gant-jazz: But now this makes me want to know one last thing (I'm sorry!):

Please, please tell me there are no killer butterflies, ice-box jail cells, or college massacres instigated by insane adoptive fathers (I won't say anything about albino sister ghosts because this is Ace Attorney...)...

Weird thing to ask, I know, but... well... Trauma Team. Specifically, CR-S01. After I get the answer to that I'll swear off the GS5 subforum until it's released in the US; I don't want to be spoilered that badly!
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Tiagofvarela wrote:
Moni_22 wrote:
Mr.Devil wrote:I have a question... Case 4 or 5 spoilers.
Spoiler:
Does Kaguya have a breakdown?
Spoiler:
No.
More details:
Spoiler:
You cross-examine her just once, but she isn't present herself. She talks by her robot. So yeah, no breakdown.
Spoiler: A question that could potentialy imply the answer for the question above, yeah, I'm that crazy
Does it have a damage animation? Like DeKiller?
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Mmm... I don't remember if it has that type of animation. I think it doesn't but I'm not sure. It does have animations like "happy" and "angry", like Athena's necklace.
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Re: "I just want to know one thing" - Dual Destinies Edition

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Spoiler: Case 5? I think
WHy do they use the bombed courtroom?
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Re: "I just want to know one thing" - Dual Destinies Edition

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Moni_22 wrote:
Spoiler:
Mmm... I don't remember if it has that type of animation. I think it doesn't but I'm not sure. It does have animations like "happy" and "angry", like Athena's necklace.
Ok, thanks.

Other than that, I have a couple of questions regarding the in game cutsenes.

1. How many are there?
2. Which characters get a voice at least once in the game?
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Re: "I just want to know one thing" - Dual Destinies Edition

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jaydrick0620 wrote:
Spoiler: Case 5? I think
WHy do they use the bombed courtroom?
Spoiler: Case 5
Whatshername demands that they hold a trial or else she'll start killing hostages, and the only courtroom that wasn't being used that day was the destroyed one.
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Re: "I just want to know one thing" - Dual Destinies Edition

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Tiagofvarela wrote:
Moni_22 wrote:
Spoiler:
Mmm... I don't remember if it has that type of animation. I think it doesn't but I'm not sure. It does have animations like "happy" and "angry", like Athena's necklace.
Ok, thanks.

Other than that, I have a couple of questions regarding the in game cutsenes.

1. How many are there?
2. Which characters get a voice at least once in the game?
1.
Spoiler:
Don't know exact number, but... about 15 maybe?
2.
Spoiler:
I remember: Phoenix, Apollo, Athena, Miles, Fulbright, Klavier, Juniper, Rei, Chisio, Tenma (dad), Biyouin, Hoshinari, Judge, Gaspen and... that it I think. Well of course Jin has a voice too, but he doesn't talk in any cutscene, only Objetion and Shut it.
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