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Percei wrote:
I'm surprised you can bring yourself to use Windows 7's version of Paint without wanting you end yourself. I tried it for about 10 minutes before downloading Windows Vista's version of paint, which I continue to use to this day.
I thought I'm only one who thinks spriting with more advanced Paint makes physical pain! I have Windows Vista, but sometimes I try to sprite on library or at school, and I really suffer.
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Percei wrote:
I'm surprised you can bring yourself to use Windows 7's version of Paint without wanting you end yourself. I tried it for about 10 minutes before downloading Windows Vista's version of paint, which I continue to use to this day.
I thought I'm only one who thinks spriting with more advanced Paint makes physical pain! I have Windows Vista, but sometimes I try to sprite on library or at school, and I really suffer.
It's not that the tools are too advanced, I can handle advanced tools, it's that they're overcomplicated simple tools PRETENDING to be advanced tools with an incredibly unnecessary user interface.
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Percei wrote:
~Dataman~ wrote:
Percei wrote:
I'm surprised you can bring yourself to use Windows 7's version of Paint without wanting you end yourself. I tried it for about 10 minutes before downloading Windows Vista's version of paint, which I continue to use to this day.
I thought I'm only one who thinks spriting with more advanced Paint makes physical pain! I have Windows Vista, but sometimes I try to sprite on library or at school, and I really suffer.
It's not that the tools are too advanced, I can handle advanced tools, it's that they're overcomplicated simple tools PRETENDING to be advanced tools with an incredibly unnecessary user interface.
Yeah, for example the line drawing. You can't draw two lines directly after each other, you have to start the new one from somewhere else.
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Glacius wrote:
You use MS Paint?! 
I actually thought it was all done on Photoshop or something...
Can't wait to see more of your work!
I actually thought it was all done on Photoshop or something... Can't wait to see more of your work!
Actually I had hard time to make sprites with Photoshop. Simple ones are better for me to do pixel arts...
Please wait... My next goal is to make (nearly) full sheet of Simon!
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I'm surprised you can bring yourself to use Windows 7's version of Paint without wanting you end yourself. I tried it for about 10 minutes before downloading Windows Vista's version of paint, which I continue to use to this day. But, excellent work nonetheless.
The hair on Blackquill's back sprite seems a little sharp. It's all very jagged and doesn't seem to flow like hair naturally would, try playing with more gradual shading instead of thick lines on the hair, and more curves as opposed to just straight lines.
I feel your pain though. I hate spiriting hair more than anything else in the world.
The hair on Blackquill's back sprite seems a little sharp. It's all very jagged and doesn't seem to flow like hair naturally would, try playing with more gradual shading instead of thick lines on the hair, and more curves as opposed to just straight lines.
I feel your pain though. I hate spiriting hair more than anything else in the world.
Oh.. I didn't know that kind of way exists....
Yes, I don't use many functions of Paint7.. When I see his hair.. I think so. Guess I'll have to put more colors?
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Yeah, for example the line drawing. You can't draw two lines directly after each other, you have to start the new one from somewhere else.
Hmm... You're not saying to me but thx to you I found out that MS paint Vista's line functions were better.
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Perhaps because it's actually the only Gaspen sprite out there that isn't based on his brother's sprites...
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Sligneris wrote:
I'm not sure if you forgot speaking frames for Nick's zoom sprite or what. ^^;
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You beat me to that comment.
Finally, someone found out that... (busted!) Before DD was released, I could not get sources for zoomed,talking animations and nodding/shaking head animations. Now I can get it, thanks to Bolt Storm, right? I'll do it soon.
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Wow, Gaspen looks so different from Winston in that sprite xD
Perhaps because it's actually the only Gaspen sprite out there that isn't based on his brother's sprites...
Perhaps because it's actually the only Gaspen sprite out there that isn't based on his brother's sprites...
I wanted a different look for him. I made one based on Winston but it was not very satisfying to me..
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There's a full playthrough that can be found here: http://www.twitch.tv/madoushi/profile/pastBroadcasts
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Sligneris wrote:
Hm. You could update Blackquil a little. His sprite looks sorta... Inaccurate?
Sure. I was about to patch him with new poses.(After Nick's supplement...) Since there were some critiques..
Can you be more specific?
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Rajin wrote:
Sure. I was about to patch him with new poses.(After Nick's supplement...) Since there were some critiques.. Can you be more specific?
Can you be more specific?I have hard time being specific
I believe its something about the face, specifically mouth and eyes. And that feather, not looking much like feather
Fulbright and Juniper also look kinda weird.... Or it's just me. The latter reminds me kinda of a cat for some reason and Fulbright... hm. maybe try to lower the mouth a little?
In the case of the former... I think it's something about the mouth too....Here you have it, lots of mouth critique...
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Now i see them.... They sure look weird... Especially Bobby.
However... due to my lack of skill I don't get it how to change other two. Maybe I should ctrl v screenshots....? Hmm... Since I did their face by scratches, there can be malfunctions with positions of eyes and mouth^^;
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I'm animating some of your sprites; it's just a fun little timewaster I like to do. But I fear, have you already done this?
Spoiler: GS5 Phoenix
Also, may I use them for a video? I don't know for what yet but it might be handy/
EDIT: There we go! Finished! Two hours well spent.
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ReturnofthePhoenix wrote:
I'm animating some of your sprites; it's just a fun little timewaster I like to do. But I fear, have you already done this?
Also, may I use them for a video? I don't know for what yet but it might be handy/
EDIT: There we go! Finished! Two hours well spent.
Spoiler: GS5 Phoenix
Also, may I use them for a video? I don't know for what yet but it might be handy/
EDIT: There we go! Finished! Two hours well spent.
WoW!
That's sure a great! work! I really appreciate you. I haven't do it.. yeah 
GS1's timing is perfect. 
Sure, you can use nick for it!
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Sligneris wrote:
Hm. Some of the animations are too fast, such as idle one. I will try to reanimate (pun not intended) them later.
I'm afraid I'm going to have to completely disagree with you here. To animate these sprites, I synced them up exactly with Phoenix's original animations from the original 2D games. Sure, they can seem a little fast but in fact, one could say that, they are the official Capcom timing. It may look strange with these high quality sprites but that's how Phoenix has always talked.
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Maybe it's me, but isn't Phoenix missing the start up animation of his confident pose?
He's missing plenty of things from DD. Many frames of his objection, a lot of those start up animations, different camera angles. I think Rajin's aim was to emulate the original game's animations but with sprites resembling Dual Destinies. Thus, the start up animations (that were never in the original games) weren't included.
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ReturnofthePhoenix wrote:
I'm afraid I'm going to have to completely disagree with you here. To animate these sprites, I synced them up exactly with Phoenix's original animations from the original 2D games. Sure, they can seem a little fast but in fact, one could say that, they are the official Capcom timing. It may look strange with these high quality sprites but that's how Phoenix has always talked.
Unfortunately that does not work with the Dual Destinies sprites, as timing of the animations in the game is different. The best solution would be ripping the timings from the game, but these were official for the original trilogy - not for DD. For which these timings are too fast in my opinion.
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Sligneris wrote:
ReturnofthePhoenix wrote:
I'm afraid I'm going to have to completely disagree with you here. To animate these sprites, I synced them up exactly with Phoenix's original animations from the original 2D games. Sure, they can seem a little fast but in fact, one could say that, they are the official Capcom timing. It may look strange with these high quality sprites but that's how Phoenix has always talked.
Unfortunately that does not work with the Dual Destinies sprites, as timing of the animations in the game is different. The best solution would be ripping the timings from the game, but these were official for the original trilogy - not for DD. For which these timings are too fast in my opinion.
Have you seen the animations of Dual Destinies? The talking animations of typical Phoenix Wright games (including GS4 and GK1+GK2) are three frames for the mouth. Since the sprites in Dual Destinies are not in fact sprites but completely new 3D models, they have...a LOT more than three frames. The mouth movements are much more detailed and it would be 1. impossible to emulate and 2. impossible to time with. If you want to try to make it fit, be my guest, but it would look less fluid if you try to slow it down.
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JoekerTrack wrote:
Rajin, do you take requests?
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Sorry.. I don't take any requests or project-participation now.
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Well I'll do this step by step...
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Seeing those sprites animated, and in the courtroom, I have absolutely no doubt about how incredible they are. Kudos, friend, kudos to you.
You praising me that much...
Thank you. It's just because of good animations. Animations {[Sligneris][ReturnofthePhoenix][ApolloAvalon]};
I think RotP's animations are very good. But there's no official animations for my mere custom sprites so making other gifs and using them are free, isn't it?
Well, I think less fluid ones are less fluid, but could be feel like AJ ones. Missing sheets {[ApolloAvalon][Percei][ReturnofthePhoenix]};
Yes, to finish this sheet faster, I omitted start-up animations for all poses. Well, my current goal is remaining finger-moving objection sheets... I'm afraid start-up animations will be delayed.
First aim is to mock AJ style. 
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P.S. head nodding/shaking sheets added.
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Look at the way you have the half-closed frame in the normal pose, notice how it is straighter, try to echo the lid angle from the half-closed in the fully closed.
Just a small nitpick, of course, because the sprites are so awesome on the whole.
EDIT: One other thing, the angle of Phoenix's bashful-awkward-grin pose, his grin is at a really odd angle, really steep compared to how it would actually be on his face, try rotating it a few degrees counter clockwise to sit better with his jaw and see where that gets you!
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ReturnofthePhoenix wrote:
I timed it up with GS1 Phoenix's animations.
Well, for any doubtfull people, I added the originals next to the images for comparison
Spoiler: GS5 and GS1 Phoenix
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...This is the same guy, right?
I think it shouldn't be hard to tell why some just feel wrong.
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Also, Pointing sprites seem to be using wrong frames for half-opened "o". It should be that one with the mouth filled with white...
...I'm bad at stating my points properly. I will show it instead
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Well, I don't know nothing about animations... so I won't join this. I'm not making fan-games with those..
Hehheh,, This time, I doodled your choice.
He's called Hennick.
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wow this is so cool it's like my fancasting come to life! you should make a gaspard ulliel edgey...
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nwghibli wrote:
Rajin wrote:
Well, I don't know nothing about animations... so I won't join this. I'm not making fan-games with those..
Hehheh,, This time, I doodled your choice.
He's called Hennick.
I won't join this. I'm not making fan-games with those.. nwghibli wrote:
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wow this is so cool it's like my fancasting come to life! you should make a gaspard ulliel edgey...
hmm... when I do DD edgey I'll make one of it. Just a present? heh.Sligneris wrote:
Hm... Are you going to update on your Hobo sprites?
If you want it, then I'll update it. I didn't do it because that Hobo was made in 2009...
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