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Kinnikumask asks: Is there still any hope for a physical release of Dual Destinies in the west?
Eshiro: In response to fan feedback we looked into a western physical release of Dual Destinies but from the beginning of the project, one of our goals has been to bring the game to the western market much more quickly than we have been able to in the past. As text adventures, the Ace Attorney games require a lot of time for localization, so we really moved the proverbial mountains and had a lot of people work very hard to get the text localized as quickly as possible—while of course maintaining the high quality level fans are accustomed to.
As part of this, we made the decision to release on digital only in the west in order to take manufacturing time out of the equation and allow the release date to be as early as possible. So the answer is, no, Dual Destinies will be a digital download-only release in the west.
Eshiro: In response to fan feedback we looked into a western physical release of Dual Destinies but from the beginning of the project, one of our goals has been to bring the game to the western market much more quickly than we have been able to in the past. As text adventures, the Ace Attorney games require a lot of time for localization, so we really moved the proverbial mountains and had a lot of people work very hard to get the text localized as quickly as possible—while of course maintaining the high quality level fans are accustomed to.
As part of this, we made the decision to release on digital only in the west in order to take manufacturing time out of the equation and allow the release date to be as early as possible. So the answer is, no, Dual Destinies will be a digital download-only release in the west.
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Erick asks: Do you think that having the game english only worldwide will have a very big negative impact in sales? Wouldn't have been better releasing it a bit later but with more language options?
Eshiro: This ties in with my previous answer, but localizing into multiple languages would have taken a very long time, and this would push the western release a lot further out from the Japanese release. We therefore made the decision to localize into English only in order to get the game to western fans as soon as possible.
Eshiro: This ties in with my previous answer, but localizing into multiple languages would have taken a very long time, and this would push the western release a lot further out from the Japanese release. We therefore made the decision to localize into English only in order to get the game to western fans as soon as possible.
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If anything, i hope there will be a lot of eshop advertising/promotion for the title, they did with MH.
Also, might want to add the question about the translations into other languages, and the confirmation of the Feenie Costume for the west.
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HJPlus wrote:
I expected this, so I'm not too let down. They could have sweetened the message with a release date or something, though. I think they're running out of time if they intend to make good on delivering those good news they promised us "very soon".
PAX is just around the corner mate, we can only hope that we will hear something there... if not, sad face forever
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irishmarcoos wrote:
Do you mean a "Limited Physical Run" when you say limited edition? That would make more sense, as limited edition would need an actual physical run in the first place. But yeah, i think it will be a good while before we actually hear anything about a possible physical release, if at all.
If anything, i hope there will be a lot of eshop advertising/promotion for the title, they did with MH.
Also, might want to add the question about the translations into other languages, and the confirmation of the Feenie Costume for the west.
If anything, i hope there will be a lot of eshop advertising/promotion for the title, they did with MH.
Also, might want to add the question about the translations into other languages, and the confirmation of the Feenie Costume for the west.
Both. A limited run, but with some added bonus (artwork booklet + music CD for example), a bit like what Ghostlight did for Elimage (not sure about the title) in Europe (300 copies limited run + release on PSN).
Good suggestion about the answers regarding the languages, though that was to be expected. Not hope to be had here.
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I'm a long-running fan of the series and I'm not even sure yet if I'll be able to get Dual Destinies because of my bad wireless internet connection. Can it really be that hard to just release a physical version of the game a few months after the digital one?
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It's really as simple as that. Although it might impact the existing fanbase I actually have a feeling this will improve NA/EU sales overall.
Does we even do these things anymore?
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irishmarcoos wrote:
Do you mean a "Limited Physical Run" when you say limited edition? That would make more sense, as limited edition would need an actual physical run in the first place.
Not really, NISA made a Limited Edition run of Black Rock Shooter: The Game which included a figma and other neat physical stuff, but only a PSN download code for the game. (Although in that particular case, the PSP's lifecycle basically already ended, but still.... 
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I was just hoping for a preorder special. Did you guys see what they (japan) got when they preorderd? I would give (almost) anything for that phoenix statue.
The statue was part of the limited edition and obviously not a pre-order bonus.
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But then again, even though I would've preferred a physical copy, I am more than happy enough to get the game digitally. Just got to wait and see for the price.
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Lusankya wrote:
Bloodfox05 wrote:
I was just hoping for a preorder special. Did you guys see what they (japan) got when they preorderd? I would give (almost) anything for that phoenix statue.
The statue was part of the limited edition and obviously not a pre-order bonus.
Oh! Sorry. Did not understand what the ad was saying. But still, i stand by my word that it is awesome.
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Answer about languages :
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Erick asks: Do you think that having the game english only worldwide will have a very big negative impact in sales? Wouldn't have been better releasing it a bit later but with more language options?
Eshiro: This ties in with my previous answer, but localizing into multiple languages would have taken a very long time, and this would push the western release a lot further out from the Japanese release. We therefore made the decision to localize into English only in order to get the game to western fans as soon as possible.
Eshiro: This ties in with my previous answer, but localizing into multiple languages would have taken a very long time, and this would push the western release a lot further out from the Japanese release. We therefore made the decision to localize into English only in order to get the game to western fans as soon as possible.
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Other than that, nothing really surprises me here. No release date or pricing. If we don't get that stuff at PAX Prime I'm going to really get annoyed. How do they expect people to make the plan to buy their game when no one knows even the month that it is happening?
I actually like the title "Turnabout Reclaimed" better than "Turnabout Return". It sounds nicer.
Interesting that the DLC was inspired by a real animal case. I wonder if they are referring to the Seaworld/Killer Whale Incidents or another animal related investigation. Either way, I don't remember hearing about the animal itself "taking the stand in court" - anyone know what he is talking about?
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Either way, I don't remember hearing about the animal itself "taking the stand in court" - anyone know what he is talking about?
Long story short, the whale isn't the only defendant in that case; she gets called as a witness too.
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I've seen people cursing Capcom and predicting AA's demise after this news... I am also disappointed at the explanation. I liked that Sven was giving us a reasonable explanation. The interview revealed little, and I'm still concerned. Dual Destinies MUST get on a Nintendo Direct. It needs publicity.
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Velotican wrote:
If you want there to be more Ace Attorney in the West guys, the answer is simple: buy this game.
It's really as simple as that. Although it might impact the existing fanbase I actually have a feeling this will improve NA/EU sales overall.
It's really as simple as that. Although it might impact the existing fanbase I actually have a feeling this will improve NA/EU sales overall.
That can be something of a double-edged sword, however - showing support and buying the game is all well and good, and anyone who likes this series should definitely do it, but if it does too well Capcom may get the idea that the series might be better off as digital only in the west from now on. We're pretty much screwed either way, it seems...
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The answers that Capcom is giving doesn't really make sense; they must feel that whatever support was shown when Sven said to wasn't enough to change it because I can't believe they wouldn't switch to Physical just because timing would be stopping them, when it sounds like a lot the fans would be ok with a delay if it meant a physical copy.
Let's face the facts, Sven was probably fighting an uphill battle as it was to get a physical release, and when he left the company that "push" went with him. Even so, with the disconnect between the home company in the east and Capcom USA, it's likely Capcom Japan either didn't care for his idea or ignored him outright the entire way through his exit. I'm not saying a physical release was impossible, but history shows once they make up their minds it's not easy to change them.
That is, of course, assuming that Sven put up as much of a fight as he claimed he was, but if he knew/was considering leaving the company at that point, maybe it was more of a front to keep the fanbase calm. I suppose we'll never really know.
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That can be something of a double-edged sword, however - showing support and buying the game is all well and good, and anyone who likes this series should definitely do it, but if it does too well Capcom may get the idea that the series might be better off as digital only in the west from now on. We're pretty much screwed either way, it seems...
Game sells well, we get another one on 3DS.
That's the only victory condition in my eyes. No getting screwed at all.
Digital only or not it's hardly the greatest loss in the world. Collectors can always go out of their way and import a Japanese copy if they have to but if the game sells well in digital format and it convinces Capcom to keep making the games digitally for perhaps another trilogy or so then unfurl the digital flag I'm on board.
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TheRedPriest wrote:
English only, digital only. There is no way in hell it's going to make anywhere near whatever the unrealistic sales they expect when retail/multi language releases didn't. Say goodbye to AA outside of Japan folks. And as angry as I am, I can't help but laugh at the PR on "we want to get it to you FAST" and still no release date or price. This is Mega Man all over again, and watching what Capcom did to that was no more enjoyable than this.
It's hardly helpful to be a pessimist now is it?
Then again, I guess that's to be expected from a 'Bitter Old Man'
Anyhow, I do agree this explanaiton is most certanly lacking, or simply... Just doesn't seem to justify the fact that we aren't going to get a physical release.
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I'm just happy the game is coming. Physical is nice, but having the game accessible is far more important to me. And I don't get all the flack the eShop gets, when the most common complaints are mostly due to misinformation (which is partly Nintendo's fault, admittedly).
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It's hardly helpful to be a pessimist now is it?
Then again, I guess that's to be expected from a 'Bitter Old Man'
Anyhow, I do agree this explanaiton is most certanly lacking, or simply... Just doesn't seem to justify the fact that we aren't going to get a physical release.
Then again, I guess that's to be expected from a 'Bitter Old Man'
Anyhow, I do agree this explanaiton is most certanly lacking, or simply... Just doesn't seem to justify the fact that we aren't going to get a physical release.
The sad part? I'm only 35! I really shouldn't have been surprised though. I really wanted to believe it would all work out and they'd do the right thing. In that respect I was quite the optimist. Now it's just angry all over again. But I suspect it will be fast and fleeting before apathy sets back in. I still honestly think it's going to sell poorly though. I won't be mad if I'm wrong, I just don't think I am.
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Hold the phone Orca, that's unusually contradictory.
Game sells well, we get another one on 3DS.
That's the only victory condition in my eyes. No getting screwed at all.
Digital only or not it's hardly the greatest loss in the world. Collectors can always go out of their way and import a Japanese copy if they have to but if the game sells well in digital format and it convinces Capcom to keep making the games digitally for perhaps another trilogy or so then unfurl the digital flag I'm on board.
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That can be something of a double-edged sword, however - showing support and buying the game is all well and good, and anyone who likes this series should definitely do it, but if it does too well Capcom may get the idea that the series might be better off as digital only in the west from now on. We're pretty much screwed either way, it seems...
Game sells well, we get another one on 3DS.
That's the only victory condition in my eyes. No getting screwed at all.
Digital only or not it's hardly the greatest loss in the world. Collectors can always go out of their way and import a Japanese copy if they have to but if the game sells well in digital format and it convinces Capcom to keep making the games digitally for perhaps another trilogy or so then unfurl the digital flag I'm on board.
I respectfully disagree. Orca is sadly very correct. There are no good options for us. Buy it and Capcom is rewarded for their bad behavior. Don't buy it and no more games. This was a retail release and, as has been debated to death, is a LOT different than a digital release. Once Ace Attorney is released start to finish everywhere as a digital game, then we can talk, but as long as full retail games are being released outside Japan as digital we're getting the short end of the stick, period. And the only way we have to voice our disapproval of this move, not buying it, will be seen as "oh no one likes AA" and no more localized games.
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They never promised us a physical copy or made any indication it would be, they've not broken any promises to us or done anything wrong. There's no reason for them to be punished. Digital Downloads aren't the big nasty scary thing some people make them out to be. It is a shame however for people who don't have internet access.
Yet that's the only downside I can really see to their marketing strategy.
It's not "Rewarding Capcom for their Bad Behaviour," because Capcom hasn't done anything wrong.
The only people who perceive something wrong with this are those dead set against Digital Downloads, the strategy makes sense for the west and the most important thing is that the game is coming here at all in a readily available format.
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I respectfully disagree. Orca is sadly very correct. There are no good options for us. Buy it and Capcom is rewarded for their bad behavior. Don't buy it and no more games. This was a retail release and, as has been debated to death, is a LOT different than a digital release. Once Ace Attorney is released start to finish everywhere as a digital game, then we can talk, but as long as full retail games are being released outside Japan as digital we're getting the short end of the stick, period. And the only way we have to voice our disapproval of this move, not buying it, will be seen as "oh no one likes AA" and no more localized games.
Between the two options of: 1) Endorse digital games or 2) Let AA die
I think I have to chose option one. Sven gave us a chance to savor the new generation of AA and try to find a home for it in NA/EU. If I boycotted it, I would be depriving myself of one of my favorite video games (that also looks fantastic) and to be frank, my boycotting would not be heard/cared about. I believe Sven when he said digital was the only way to go for AA, and I think if we can get a lot of people, they might go physical over digital next time. (Thing is, we'll likely land in the middle of no success and high success and AA6/AAI3 will be in jeopardy.)
Quick question, RedPriest... if AAI 2 was (miraculously) localized and it was digital only, would you buy it? (There would be no feasible way of a physical release because the DS is outdated and almost done rolling out games.)
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Plus, who is to say our pals at Capcom won't sell limited edition 3ds AA items in the near future, like decals, console cases and such?
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Pierre wrote:
Hold the phone Orca, that's unusually contradictory.
Game sells well, we get another one on 3DS.
That's the only victory condition in my eyes. No getting screwed at all.
Digital only or not it's hardly the greatest loss in the world. Collectors can always go out of their way and import a Japanese copy if they have to but if the game sells well in digital format and it convinces Capcom to keep making the games digitally for perhaps another trilogy or so then unfurl the digital flag I'm on board.
Game sells well, we get another one on 3DS.
That's the only victory condition in my eyes. No getting screwed at all.
Digital only or not it's hardly the greatest loss in the world. Collectors can always go out of their way and import a Japanese copy if they have to but if the game sells well in digital format and it convinces Capcom to keep making the games digitally for perhaps another trilogy or so then unfurl the digital flag I'm on board.
This isn't just a digital only issue, it more like discrimination, for lack of a better word. Why should Japan be the only region to get a physical release, when the six previous DS games were all brought over physically? I know that getting the games digitally is better than not getting them at all, but if that was the case, why did they bother making three different collector's editions only for the game in Japan when the series has had at least comparable sales in the US and Europe in the past? Equality makes all the difference, at least to me.
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Now, I know this example has a major difference since it isn't a franchise, but what do you think fans would think if Time Travelers was announced for localization, but it was digital only? Something tells me most people would be just glad to have the game.
That's just the point, though; Time Travelers doesn't have the strength of a franchise to push it like DD has. If AA had been digital only in the west from the start (given the online infrastructure was in place at the time, of course), that would also be a different situation.
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Blademaster_Orca wrote:
This isn't just a digital only issue, it more like discrimination, for lack of a better word. Why should Japan be the only region to get a physical release, when the six previous DS games were all brought over physically? I know that getting the games digitally is better than not getting them at all, but if that was the case, why did they bother making three different collector's editions only for the game in Japan when the series has had at least comparable sales in the US and Europe in the past? Equality makes all the difference, at least to me.
Are you kidding me? Ace Attorney sells MUCH better in Japan than in the US and EU. Its hugely popular over there. In the US the series is being held up by a small but dedicated fanbase.
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And I forgot, did Capcom say how many blocks the game would take up? I just bought Zero Escape: Virtue's Last Reward on the eShop and it took around 7000 blocks, I believe, so I hope AA:DD's file size be smaller than that.
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Blademaster_Orca wrote:
This isn't just a digital only issue, it more like discrimination, for lack of a better word. Why should Japan be the only region to get a physical release, when the six previous DS games were all brought over physically? I know that getting the games digitally is better than not getting them at all, but if that was the case, why did they bother making three different collector's editions only for the game in Japan when the series has had at least comparable sales in the US and Europe in the past? Equality makes all the difference, at least to me.
Are you kidding me? Ace Attorney sells MUCH better in Japan than in the US and EU. Its hugely popular over there. In the US the series is being held up by a small but dedicated fanbase.
I concur.
It is difficult to compare the sales in Japan to the ones in the West and still make a compelling argument suggesting that we should get the retail version or limited editions like Japan.
It is, however, not unreasonable to believe it to be 'unfair' for allowing this game to unavailable in a retail version in the west. Just not because of popularity; that cannot be the reason, for if it was, there would hardly be any.
(Edit: I wrote this in a really weird way
I just hope it get's the point across, it's way too late where I am to fix text 
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Honestly, the digital-only thing wasn't all that upsetting to me when it all started... Then we got our hopes up. And then we got shot down. Now, I'm upset. The bad day I just had doesn't help much.
So I finally grew a brain and remembered to give myself a signature... Whoopee.
Snackoos IRL. They are delicious and are covered in real chocolate. #so-grateful-I'm-Filipino
Excuse me if I contradict myself. I do that.
Snackoos IRL. They are delicious and are covered in real chocolate. #so-grateful-I'm-Filipino
Excuse me if I contradict myself. I do that.
Re: Capcom : Ace Attorney 5 will be digital-only in the West
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I can't understand the fuss.
If people don't have an Internet connection, then it's obviously bad news. But even many undeveloped countries have decent Internet these days. I.e India, Vietnam.
Anyone else, what's the big problem? You need to be touching, rubbing, and licking the box while playing the game? You think that a game on a cart is less prone to dying than a game on an SD card (if so, you should note that Nintendo lets you re download a game if you lose/break your DS). And, yes, one day Nintendo will probably stop that service, in the same way that once all physical copies break, they will be no more. Impermanence is the only guarantee in life - things die, people die, nothing lasts forever - get over it.
The majority of complaints I've heard seem to say less about the problems of the current market trends, and more about the psychological needs of consumers that can't cope with change. It reminds me of when people couldn't get their heads around Internet shopping or smart phones. You don't HAVE to change your mentality, but if you don't, you will miss out on some fun stuff for the sake of being stuck in your ways.
(Yes, I'm mean and heartless. Now please stop licking that game box.)
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