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You are the only one claiming we don't care and won't remember you. You are the one saying we've done nothing. If you are depressed right now physiologically then you'll be seeing everything in a negative light and not think logically about the situation. You are a big fan of evidence after all we've given plenty evidence we care with little to the contrary.
I suggest you take some time out and perhaps just take your mind off this for now.
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Pierre wrote:
We've all tried to offer advice and help to show we care Professor. Hell a lurker even came out of hiding to offer help.
You are the only one claiming we don't care and won't remember you. You are the one saying we've done nothing. If you are depressed right now physiologically then you'll be seeing everything in a negative light and not think logically about the situation. You are a big fan of evidence after all we've given plenty evidence we care with little to the contrary.
I suggest you take some time out and perhaps just take your mind off this for now.
You are the only one claiming we don't care and won't remember you. You are the one saying we've done nothing. If you are depressed right now physiologically then you'll be seeing everything in a negative light and not think logically about the situation. You are a big fan of evidence after all we've given plenty evidence we care with little to the contrary.
I suggest you take some time out and perhaps just take your mind off this for now.
You only give me advice because you feel sorry for me. Five years from now you won't remember me, nor will I likely remember you. You don't even know me in real life. Don't tell me that you care because you don't. If I were to leave these forums none of you would care. In fact, you'd probably be happier that way. Don't deny it. And I never said anything about you doing nothing. All I said was that you did nothing HELPFUL that changed anything for me. And Cat told me that she was sick of my posts. There's your evidence.
I can think logically, thank you very much. Never tell me otherwise.
And no, taking "time out" and getting my mind off of this isn't going to help me. Does it change anything in my situation? No. Does it make anything better for me? No. Nothing ever changes for me. Every single day is the goddam same. You wouldn't understand.
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Pierre wrote:
Professor I think at this point the only help you would accept from us is if we flew to America or wherever you stay to solve your troubles since it seems you won't accept anything else.
There's nothing anyone can do for me. The people that I'm surrounded by don't care and I have an online contact that lives thousands of miles away from me in a different country. I'll probably never see her ever. It's hopeless. I've said it before and I'll say it again. I'm alone. None of your advice changes any of that for me. I sound like a broken record saying the same things over and over again. There's no solution or fix for any of my problems. I have to accept it.
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You only give me advice because you feel sorry for me. Five years from now you won't remember me, nor will I likely remember you.
Oh my God, if you don't care why do you HARP on that so much? So people will not remember you in five years? Who gives a fuck? I don't remember my classmates, I barely remember the names of the ones that weren't my friends - heck, the only three names I remember from my graduation class are my three friends, and even those I have not seen in a few years. Fuck, my classmates probably don't even remember me.
I don't care. Why should you care if a bunch of anonymous people on the internet remember you in five years? And even if we remembered you, do you really want people to remember you as the pessemistic, negative guy who sounded angry at the world and didn't seem to care if any of us gave him any kind of advice?
Plus, you absolutely did sound like everybody else's life was peachy-perfect. We don't. We have problems. Sure we may not have YOUR kind of troubles right now, but maybe we had them in the past or had similar ones. People handle things differently. If you think our advice doesn't work for you, well fuck it, try something yourself. And if you really think that nothing you do will help in any way, stop bitching about it all the time. You sound like Godot and that is not a compliment.
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PS: You don't want us to pity you. You don't want us to help you. What do you want from us? Sympathy? You'll just think we're pitying you. Tell you it's gonna be okay? You're not gonna believe us. Ignore your posts as simple venting? You'll just think nobody cares and wallow in your misery some more.
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TopHatProfessor1014 wrote:
There's no solution or fix for any of my problems. I have to accept it.
There's your solution. At least, that's what worked for me.
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Oh my God, if you don't care why do you HARP on that so much? So people will not remember you in five years? Who gives a fuck? I don't remember my classmates, I barely remember the names of the ones that weren't my friends - heck, the only three names I remember from my graduation class are my three friends, and even those I have not seen in a few years. Fuck, my classmates probably don't even remember me.
I don't care. Why should you care if a bunch of anonymous people on the internet remember you in five years? And even if we remembered you, do you really want people to remember you as the pessemistic, negative guy who sounded angry at the world and didn't seem to care if any of us gave him any kind of advice?
I don't care. Why should you care if a bunch of anonymous people on the internet remember you in five years? And even if we remembered you, do you really want people to remember you as the pessemistic, negative guy who sounded angry at the world and didn't seem to care if any of us gave him any kind of advice?
Because you people keep saying that you "care" when you really don't. That's why I "harp" on it so much as you say. You don't remember your classmates because you don't care about them and vice-versa. It's as simple as that. I don't care if you remember me or not. First off, I know that you won't but secondly I'm simply used to people not caring by now. It's not that I don't care about your advice. It's that your advice doesn't help.
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Plus, you absolutely did sound like everybody else's life was peachy-perfect. We don't. We have problems. Sure we may not have YOUR kind of troubles right now, but maybe we had them in the past or had similar ones. People handle things differently. If you think our advice doesn't work for you, well fuck it, try something yourself. And if you really think that nothing you do will help in any way, stop bitching about it all the time. You sound like Godot and that is not a compliment.
It's not my fault that you mis-interpreted my words. Though it's because of such mis-interpretation that those bastards at my school suspended me. So I'm used to people not understanding me. It's alright
I've already told you that nothing ever changes for me no matter how hard I try. Basically what you're telling me is to shut up and live my own life in misery.
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PS: You don't want us to pity you. You don't want us to help you. What do you want from us? Sympathy? You'll just think we're pitying you. Tell you it's gonna be okay? You're not gonna believe us. Ignore your posts as simple venting? You'll just think nobody cares and wallow in your misery some more.
Well you obviously don't care. I wanted you people to help me at first. But I've realized that nothing you say changes anything for me at all. If you want me to leave, just say it. I'll vanish from this forum site and never return if that's what you people truly want. I was miserable before I joined this site and I'll continue being miserable after it. My life won't have changed.
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There's your solution. At least, that's what worked for me.
That I'll always be miserable and that none of my problems will ever be fixed? I'm starting to believe it myself.
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TopHat: I won't reply to you, personally, as the last thing I want is a fight over religion. As other have noted, though... you say you don't want help, and yet you keep reaching out. Something obviously has you broken, and I sincerely hope you learn to live with it.
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Yeesh. I'm really sorry I added fuel to this fire. What a way to make my debut.
TopHat: I won't reply to you, personally, as the last thing I want is a fight over religion. As other have noted, though... you say you don't want help, and yet you keep reaching out. Something obviously has you broken, and I sincerely hope you learn to live with it.
TopHat: I won't reply to you, personally, as the last thing I want is a fight over religion. As other have noted, though... you say you don't want help, and yet you keep reaching out. Something obviously has you broken, and I sincerely hope you learn to live with it.
None of it is your fault.
I never said anything about not wanting help. It's just that I haven't been receiving any good advice at all and I highly doubt that any advice for that matter can even help me at this point.
There's more than one thing that has me "broken." It's basically every single aspect of my life, but you can check the other pages if you want more details. I'm fed up with everything and I'm miserable nearly 24/7.
I won't debate religion either, but please do the research first before making baseless statements. I've said it a hundred times before, and I'll say it again. Atheism isn't a religion and it doesn't rely on faith. I'm disregarding religion because I seen no evidence to support it. That's all there is to it, really.
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TopHatProfessor1014 wrote:
Well you obviously don't care. I wanted you people to help me at first. But I've realized that nothing you say changes anything for me at all. If you want me to leave, just say it. I'll vanish from this forum site and never return if that's what you people truly want. I was miserable before I joined this site and I'll continue being miserable after it. My life won't have changed.
None of us can be your savior. We can give you advices and share experiences which CAN help you to see things from a different perspective, but it doesn't mean that your life will change after that. All words are meaningless if you don't apply them in your actions.
Your life won't change if you keep thinking of yourself that way (poor, poor me, my life never changes, nobody cares about me, I'm fucked up and I hate people)
Many things that happened in your life may be other people's fault, but the direction you set for your life and the actions you choose every day are up to you. Jesus Christ, you think I liked high school? I hated it, that's one of the reasons why I focused so much on my studies these last years. I'm sure many people here didn't love their school lives too or have been depressed. As CatMuto said, you know this will change. Two more years and you can do whatever you want to with your life. I know it isn't that simple, your life won't get 100% better immediately after you graduate, but it is highly probable that everything will get better gradually. If you hate the place you live that much, remember, someday you will be able to move to another town or state or country.
And please, don't just assume that your problems are the "worst" here. Just like you don't want people to think that you are bitching, I don't want you to think that your problems are somewhat more worth of attention or worst than anyone's problems here. They aren't.
And if you are going to reply something like "you don't understand", "nothing ever changes for me", "you don't care", "it doesn't help", don't even bother to answer this.
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None of us can be your savior. We can give you advices and share experiences which CAN help you to see things from a different perspective, but it doesn't mean that your life will change after that. All words are meaningless if you don't apply them in your actions.
How exactly does a different perspective help? To me, it does absolutely nothing. I have tried. I've tried everything in my power to make things better for myself. But like I've said a hundred times, I always fail in life.
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Your life won't change if you keep thinking of yourself that way (poor, poor me, my life never changes, nobody cares about me, I'm fucked up and I hate people)
Many things that happened in your life may be other people's fault, but the direction you set for your life and the actions you choose every day are up to you. Jesus Christ, you think I liked high school? I hated it, that's one of the reasons why I focused so much on my studies these last years. I'm sure many people here didn't love their school lives too or have been depressed. As CatMuto said, you know this will change. Two more years and you can do whatever you want to with your life. I know it isn't that simple, your life won't get 100% better immediately after you graduate, but it is highly probable that everything will get better gradually. If you hate the place you live that much, remember, someday you will be able to move to another town or state or country.
Many things that happened in your life may be other people's fault, but the direction you set for your life and the actions you choose every day are up to you. Jesus Christ, you think I liked high school? I hated it, that's one of the reasons why I focused so much on my studies these last years. I'm sure many people here didn't love their school lives too or have been depressed. As CatMuto said, you know this will change. Two more years and you can do whatever you want to with your life. I know it isn't that simple, your life won't get 100% better immediately after you graduate, but it is highly probable that everything will get better gradually. If you hate the place you live that much, remember, someday you will be able to move to another town or state or country.
I do hate people, nothing ever changes, and no one does care about me. You don't have to re-state what I've already made clear a hundred times already. Yes, I do try to make good choices. But right now my choices to begin with are extremely limited and they don't affect anything for me. I am trying my hardest in school, but my best isn't good enough. There are far better students that colleges will want then me. And no, it isn't going to be over in two years. I'll still have colleges and whatever universities I'll attend to. That's going to last for years. Once I'm in the real world, I'll have to find a job in this awful economy and support myself. That isn't easy at all. In fact, it sounds worse than where I am now. So no, I don't know that things will change. For all I know, they could get even worse.
Even though I'd like to move away from this place and never come back, people are the same wherever I go. That's just how humanity is and I've already come to expect the worst in people.
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And please, don't just assume that your problems are the "worst" here. Just like you don't want people to think that you are bitching, I don't want you to think that your problems are somewhat more worth of attention or worst than anyone's problems here. They aren't.
From what I've read of other people's problems on this thread, yes I have to concluded that I have some of the worst problems. Listen, I know that people always have problems. Compared to the lives those around me have though, I go through things that the average person usually never has to. That's not to say that I have the worst life period, but that doesn't change the fact I'm always miserable and depressed. I don't have to feel better just because I'm not living in the gutter yet like some people in this world.
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TopHatProfessor1014 wrote:
I won't debate religion either, but please do the research first before making baseless statements. I've said it a hundred times before, and I'll say it again. Atheism isn't a religion and it doesn't rely on faith. I'm disregarding religion because I seen no evidence to support it. That's all there is to it, really.
Don't patronize me.
I'm sure I'll regret this, but as this has clearly been a misunderstanding:
I didn't claim that atheism was a religion, but that organized atheism - atheism as a movement, not atheism as a personal lack of religious faith - operates much like organized religion. You are entitled to that lack of faith, but it does not make you superior to religious folks. I used to hold much the same opinion as you do now, but I've come to know that the world is so much more complex. The existence of a God cannot be proven, but it doesn't invalidate the feelings or experiences of people whose lives have benefited from that belief.
If I phrased it wrong, I apologize. I am not a religious person (though not a self-identified atheist either). It isn't an issue of religious debate, but of human decency and respect for other viewpoints.
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dimentiorules wrote:
Tophatprofessor, you should go see a psychiatrist. That's what I did shortly after I came out of the hospital from my suicide attempt. She helped me get back on my feet, helped me control my emotions. If it wasn't for her, I might have attempted suicide again. I can't guarantee that it'll work for you, it just depends on the psychiatrist, I guess.
There is a big difference between psychology (the controlled study of human behavior) and psychiatry (the application of psychology for medical purposes), even though both sound very similar.
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Mr. Bear Jew wrote:
One quick nitpick, dimentiorules:
There is a big difference between psychology (the controlled study of human behavior) and psychiatry (the application of psychology for medical purposes), even though both sound very similar.
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Tophatprofessor, you should go see a psychiatrist. That's what I did shortly after I came out of the hospital from my suicide attempt. She helped me get back on my feet, helped me control my emotions. If it wasn't for her, I might have attempted suicide again. I can't guarantee that it'll work for you, it just depends on the psychiatrist, I guess.
There is a big difference between psychology (the controlled study of human behavior) and psychiatry (the application of psychology for medical purposes), even though both sound very similar.
Haven't any of you been listening? I've already tried that and that doesn't work either. Simply talking about my problems doesn't make them go away nor does it make me feel better. How many times do I have to say that I've tried everything and I'm completely alone before anyone gets it? I don't even know why I'm complaining here anymore. Nothing is helping me. I still feel miserable and depressed. It's hopeless.
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TopHatProfessor1014 wrote:
Haven't any of you been listening? I've already tried that and that doesn't work either. Simply talking about my problems doesn't make them go away nor does it make me feel better. How many times do I have to say that I've tried everything and I'm completely alone before anyone gets it? I don't even know why I'm complaining here anymore. Nothing is helping me. I still feel miserable and depressed. It's hopeless.
Psychiatry is not talking about your problems. Mr. Bear Jew is suggesting you see a psychiatrist, not a psychologist, for that very reason. A psychiatrist can diagnose any chemical imbalances you may have (leading to depression, etc.), and prescribe psychotropic drugs to help regulate your brain functions.
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Psychiatry is not talking about your problems. Mr. Bear Jew is suggesting you see a psychiatrist, not a psychologist, for that very reason. A psychiatrist can diagnose any chemical imbalances you may have (leading to depression, etc.), and prescribe psychotropic drugs to help regulate your brain functions.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with my mind. I am perfectly healthy. I'm sad and miserable because of the life that I've been given and the conditions that I'm surrounded by 24/7. ANYONE in my position would feel the same way. And I refuse to take drugs to numb this pain. That will only lead to more problems. And I've done tests for depression. I have none of the symptoms. I'm just in a bad situation and miserable because of it. Depression can come out of nowhere for people who even have otherwise happy lives. I don't have a happy life to begin with, so it's no wonder I'm this way.
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Still feeling miserable? Still feel the need to whine on how about sad and pathetic life is? Still doen't want any help because, family, internet, environnement, psy are shit? I may sound awfully coldhearted, but I would say stay in that shitty corner and shut it. There is nothing wrong with being unhappy, it's normal, nothing wrong about being unhappy when we have a serious case of happiness propaganda in our modern societies, after all happiness is only a temporary state. But I will only say this.
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When you say "test" you mean professional ones right? Not the ones on the internet, but those who need you to see a psychologist (or psychatrist whatever). You don't want any help? Fine, then just assume your sadness and patheticness and shut the f**k up. Thousands of people do it everyday, so can you. If you still want help there is plenty of other professionnals, like social workers (I don't know the english word), I mean those people at place like school who just try to help people by talking to them and make arrangement with their environnement and etc. Normally these people doen't rely on psywhatever help. And you can yell at them if things doesn't go the way you want.
Still feeling miserable? Still feel the need to whine on how about sad and pathetic life is? Still doen't want any help because, family, internet, environnement, psy are shit? I may sound awfully coldhearted, but I would say stay in that shitty corner and shut it. There is nothing wrong with being unhappy, it's normal, nothing wrong about being unhappy when we have a serious case of happiness propaganda in our modern societies, after all happiness is only a temporary state. But I will only say this.
What you feel only depends on you. What you want to feel is only up to you.
Still feeling miserable? Still feel the need to whine on how about sad and pathetic life is? Still doen't want any help because, family, internet, environnement, psy are shit? I may sound awfully coldhearted, but I would say stay in that shitty corner and shut it. There is nothing wrong with being unhappy, it's normal, nothing wrong about being unhappy when we have a serious case of happiness propaganda in our modern societies, after all happiness is only a temporary state. But I will only say this.
What you feel only depends on you. What you want to feel is only up to you.
Great, more useless advice. I've been noticing a pattern here today.
Yes, I have had professional tests. Again, there is absolutely nothing wrong with my mind.
I never said anything about not wanting help. I said that no one's help so far has changed or solved anything for me.
Listen, everybody. It's not like I want to be miserable or anything. If things went my way, I would have been happy a long time ago. But they aren't. My life is complete shit, I fail at everything I try, and I hate every moment of it. I don't know what else to say. I've said everything I can think of already. This is my last post for today.
Now if you excuse me I'm going to sit in the dark corner of my room and think about where my life went wrong. Afterwards I'll probably cry myself to sleep. Not even sure if I'm joking anymore. Good night.
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TopHatProfessor1014 wrote:
Shao-Mae wrote:
When you say "test" you mean professional ones right? Not the ones on the internet, but those who need you to see a psychologist (or psychatrist whatever). You don't want any help? Fine, then just assume your sadness and patheticness and shut the f**k up. Thousands of people do it everyday, so can you. If you still want help there is plenty of other professionnals, like social workers (I don't know the english word), I mean those people at place like school who just try to help people by talking to them and make arrangement with their environnement and etc. Normally these people doen't rely on psywhatever help. And you can yell at them if things doesn't go the way you want.
Still feeling miserable? Still feel the need to whine on how about sad and pathetic life is? Still doen't want any help because, family, internet, environnement, psy are shit? I may sound awfully coldhearted, but I would say stay in that shitty corner and shut it. There is nothing wrong with being unhappy, it's normal, nothing wrong about being unhappy when we have a serious case of happiness propaganda in our modern societies, after all happiness is only a temporary state. But I will only say this.
What you feel only depends on you. What you want to feel is only up to you.
Still feeling miserable? Still feel the need to whine on how about sad and pathetic life is? Still doen't want any help because, family, internet, environnement, psy are shit? I may sound awfully coldhearted, but I would say stay in that shitty corner and shut it. There is nothing wrong with being unhappy, it's normal, nothing wrong about being unhappy when we have a serious case of happiness propaganda in our modern societies, after all happiness is only a temporary state. But I will only say this.
What you feel only depends on you. What you want to feel is only up to you.
Great, more useless advice. I've been noticing a pattern here today.
Yes, I have had professional tests. Again, there is absolutely nothing wrong with my mind.
I never said anything about not wanting help. I said that no one's help so far has changed or solved anything for me.
Listen, everybody. It's not like I want to be miserable or anything. If things went my way, I would have been happy a long time ago. But they aren't. My life is complete shit, I fail at everything I try, and I hate every moment of it. I don't know what else to say. I've said everything I can think of already. This is my last post for today.
Now if you excuse me I'm going to sit in the dark corner of my room and think about where my life went wrong. Afterwards I'll probably cry myself to sleep. Not even sure if I'm joking anymore. Good night.
I know, I know, last post of today, but you know there are good people in this world right? Trust me, there are tons of good people out there that care.
Imagine this. After high school, you never have to see the people who bring you down ever again. You can move into a nice neighborhood, have friends with new coworkers and neighbors (the US economy isn't THAT bad by the way, things are starting to look up), and it's like starting a new life, a fresh new chapter in the book of life.
Imagine this and do whatever you can to strive to get to there!
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I wanted you people to help me at first.
How the hell are we supposed to help you?
You say you want advice.
What kind of advice do you want?
Everything we say you ignore or shoot down immediately, because you know it won't work.
Well fuck. Think up something new, if you say you tried everything.
Then again, I have to say: if you already hate humanity like that and are looking forward to graduation, fully expecting to be miserable no matter where you go, you will goddamn well be miserable wherever you go.
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In an ideal situation where any solution was possible what is the best possible outcome? What could we have said to help you since everything else fails?
What right answer regardless of restrictions and limitations could we have hypothetically given?
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How the hell are we supposed to help you?
You say you want advice.
What kind of advice do you want?
Everything we say you ignore or shoot down immediately, because you know it won't work.
Well fuck. Think up something new, if you say you tried everything.
You say you want advice.
What kind of advice do you want?
Everything we say you ignore or shoot down immediately, because you know it won't work.
Well fuck. Think up something new, if you say you tried everything.
I don't ignore anything. I listen and consider all the advice you give me. But I'm telling you, I've tried absolutely everything even the things you told me. How the hell am I supposed to come up with something new when I've tried every option available and nothing worked?
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In an ideal situation where any solution was possible what is the best possible outcome? What could we have said to help you since everything else fails?
What right answer regardless of restrictions and limitations could we have hypothetically given?
What right answer regardless of restrictions and limitations could we have hypothetically given?
How the hell am I supposed to know? And to be perfectly frank, I don't give a damn about "what if" or "hypothetical situations." I care about where I am right now. And right now I'm in a bunch of awful situations and I'm miserable every day. You know that expression "Everything will be better in the morning?" Well I just woke up. Nope, I don't feel any different than yesterday. That's how it always is for me.
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Then again, I have to say: if you already hate humanity like that and are looking forward to graduation, fully expecting to be miserable no matter where you go, you will goddamn well be miserable wherever you go.
Well then, I guess that's that. But my attitude has no effect on the environment around me. The world doesn't change, people don't change, and humanity doesn't change. Maybe I'll be around total assholes like I am now. Maybe I'll get lucky and be around half-decent people that I can at the very least tolerate. However, I refuse to keep telling myself that "it will get better" when I have absolutely no idea if that will happen. I've been let down too many times and have had too many promises broken in my life to ever blindly believe in something like that ever again.
Whatever will happen, will happen. I've come to the conclusion that there's no such thing as free will. It isn't us who make our choices, it's the environment and people around us that give us the influence. We like to tell ourselves that we're in control of everything, but we aren't. We just get lucky and are born at the right place at the right time. Basically, everything just goes down to chance. And so far, my chances for happiness haven't been good.
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Hey, kid.
Yeah, that's right. You. Professor kid.
Shut up and listen to what I have to say.
So, you think you're alone, huh? You think you have the worst life out of all of us, and none of us can really relate to anything you're experiencing right now. You think you're alone. You think no one understands you. High school sucks. College is gonna suck. The rest of your entire life is gonna suck. Am I right?
So you're just going to lament in your self-pity for the rest of your life, huh? Sit tight and enjoy the feeling that you're 'special', stew in the fact that no one can really get close to you, while at the same time cursing whatever the hell higher powers there are that made you this way.
But that isn't really gonna make you feel better, is it? You can't find a solution to your problems, and your problems are gonna remain as far down the road as you can see. This is it. This is your life, and yours alone.
But here's the thing. Do you REALLY think none of us can relate? That none of us have stared into the depths of that giant, black abyss? That our lives have to date been sunshine and rainbows compared to yours?
Well, I got news for ya, pal. We've all been there. Each and every one of us.
We still have problems. We always do: That's how life goes. But you know what we did?
We stopped being so damn negative and focused on the good parts, that's what.
Here's something fun you can do.
Grab a piece of paper. Sorry, I forgot to pack mine in my briefcase, so you'll have to fetch one of your own.
Now, on one half, write a list of your problems. For brownie points, think about how they come into being, and what possible steps you could take to solve them. (No need to write about those, though!)
Now, on the other side, try writing up a list of things that you like. Maybe you like video games. Maybe you have a passion for arguing politics on the internet. Maybe you like girls (or guys, it doesn't matter) and want to get close to one. Maybe you like tea. Maybe you enjoy an ice-cold bourbon on the rocks from time to time. Maybe you like interrogating people and solving mysteries with the air of a cold-blooded detective.
Aren't these things great? Wouldn't it be great if you could think about them more, or DO these things more? Why do you HAVE to think about your crappy problems?
(Track change)
Here's the thing, kid. For every crappy problem you have, there's probably something about this world that you like. Or, even if the crappy problems outnumber the things you like, that doesn't change the fact that there exists things you like. So why don't you focus on that instead?
I ain't gonna tell ya to look to the future or some crap, but at the end of the day, life's too short to be focusing on the crappy things. And life ain't all that bad either. It just takes a man to understand that in the end, he's in charge of what he thinks.
Try it. Go and write those lists and then come back to us. Chances are you'll be a changed man.
Here's looking at ya, kid.
(Well, that was fun.)
(I gotta get my head straight: Arrange the facts....)
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I have the feeling you want us to become a bubble head and just say:
"You are right life is shit, Yes you are right it is always the fault of society. Yes you are right You are doing nothing wrong. Yes you are right what ever you do you can't change nothing. Yes you are right, we are shit just like you. Yes you are right..."
Like I said you really look like me in my tenage years. I lost all my friend and was angry and sad at the world because nobody would give a fuck about me. Hell I had suicide intention and more worse in my head and nobody even noticed, and still doesn't now. Psy didn't help for they said "Get out and play" but nobody wanted to get out with me and I still don't like getting out with other people. Oh and in case you wonder no my ex friend didn't supported me and told me useless advice (eh what a weird memory). What to say to those like that? I still don't know. In my case I found (well more like he found me since it was a lost acquaintance from high school) a person who was exactly like me and shared thoughts together on how society is shit and etc. Made me feel less lonely.
If you leave fine. As you said nobody really care about a stranger on the net. Still, I just found that you could be a potential person with whom I can speak proper movies (Yes nobody around me like the movies I like
). But oh well. Bye.PS: I think people can change. no one is eternaly glued to a specific personality. I passed from a frustrated shut in to just a shut in. My parents were people going out every night with their friends, now they just sit in front of the tv every night. My friend passed from very timid little girl to wild party girl. Thinking that people cannot change is absurd because it would only say that we cannot grow up and we can't have a chance for redemption.
PSS: Yellow magician do you like tea?
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So you're just going to lament in your self-pity for the rest of your life, huh? Sit tight and enjoy the feeling that you're 'special', stew in the fact that no one can really get close to you, while at the same time cursing whatever the hell higher powers there are that made you this way.
First off, there are no higher powers in this world so don't even bring that up. And no, I'll be like this for as long as my life sucks which seems to be indefinitely at this point. Right now, especially where I am, I can't change anything whatsoever. I want college to be better, but even with that I'm having my doubts.
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But here's the thing. Do you REALLY think none of us can relate? That none of us have stared into the depths of that giant, black abyss? That our lives have to date been sunshine and rainbows compared to your's?
Perhaps you've had one or two problems that are remotely similar to mine. But have any of you seriously have ALL of them at the same time? I don't want to list them here because I've already did in the previous pages of this thread. Point is, I really do believe that I have more problems than the average person at my age usually has. That doesn't make me "special" or anything, just extremely miserable.
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We stopped being so damn negative and focused on the good parts, that's what.
Great idea, too bad that aren't any good parts in my life besides having three meals a day and a roof over my head.
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Now, on one half, write a list of your problems. For brownie points, think about how they come into being, and what possible steps you could take to solve them. (No need to write about those, though!)
I've done the paper exercise before. It doesn't really help me. Also, if I could truly solve my problems don't you think I would have done so by now?
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Now, on the other side, try writing up a list of things that you like. Maybe you like video games. Maybe you have a passion for arguing politics on the internet. Maybe you like girls (or guys, it doesn't matter) and want to get close to one. Maybe you like tea. Maybe you enjoy an ice-cold bourbon on the rocks from time to time. Maybe you like interrogating people and solving mysteries with the air of a cold-blooded detective.
There are things that I like. But I've already established that they are nothing more than distractions. Once I'm done with a video game or movie, it's back to my miserable life where nothing has changed. Not only that, but I have practically no time to do anything outside of school anymore. I'm busy every single day and I'm lucky if I can even get half an hour to play a 3DS game before having to go to bed.
Don't get me started on girls. I've been rejected by every single one that I've ever liked regardless of how positive I am or how hard that I try. I have never been in a single relationship and honestly, I'd say that women hate me and don't want to get within a three mile radius of me unless they absolutely have to.
As for arguing politics, no one wants to listen to my opinions. Everybody disregards my side of the argument no matter how civil I try to be. It's like that both online and in real life.
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Aren't these things great? Wouldn't it be great if you could think about them more, or DO these things more? Why do you HAVE to think about your crappy problems?
Yes, it would be. That is if I had the time. But I don't. And those things that I like are nothing more than convenient distractions. I constantly think about my problems because they're all that I have and they occupy nearly every moment of my life. How can I not think about them if they're what I have to face every day? It's impossible for me. I can't simply "not think" about them.
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I ain't gonna tell ya to look to the future or some crap, but at the end of the day, life's too short to be focusing on the crappy things. And life ain't all that bad either. It just takes a man to understand that in the end, he's in charge of what he thinks.
For me it is. Until my environment at least changes around me, I'm stuck with the same miserable life every day. There's no way around it right now.
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Try it. Go and write those lists and then come back to us. Chances are you'll be a changed man.
Guess the chances weren't in my favor then. Thanks anyways.
This just proves how broken of a person and how awful my problems are. Not even Kyle Hyde could help me.
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TopHatProfessor1014 wrote:
From what I've read of other people's problems on this thread, yes I have to concluded that I have some of the worst problems. Listen, I know that people always have problems. Compared to the lives those around me have though, I go through things that the average person usually never has to. That's not to say that I have the worst life period, but that doesn't change the fact I'm always miserable and depressed. I don't have to feel better just because I'm not living in the gutter yet like some people in this world.
That's awfully presumptous of you. I just want to ask you a question. Exactly which of your problems you think that are so uncommon? Facing assholes in high school? Not liking your city? Feeling unwanted by the opposite sex? Trouble dealing with your parents? What makes you think that your problems are "special" or "worst" than the ones of the "average person"? (though I didn't understand yet what an "average person" is)
You can say that you are suffering a lot, but this still doesn't make your problems uncommon. And you can't say that you suffer more than other people because suffering isn't something measurable that way.
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Everyone.
Please.
Stop talking.
Vent about something else.
Your homework assignments, toe cheese, stupid drivers, cheap toilet paper, high utility bills, Black Friday and the overcommercialization of Christmas/Christmas shopping.
Venting is a way to get some things off your chest. It can be a good thing. Temporarily. But this thread is not your therapist for your ongoing problems.
Top hat has stated he hates people and has already decided everyone else is an asshole who hates him and whose efforts to help him are not genuine in the least. You can either be insulted by that and keep screaming at him, you can continue to attempt to "reach him," or you can choose to ignore his posts.
I'm sure you're all familiar with the phrase, "Misery loves company." You do understand he is feeding off of all of this negative energy, don't you?
It's human nature to want to help someone else. But it's impossible to help someone who isn't interested in helping themselves. And quite frankly, you can only do so much before someone else's situation ends up being a drain on your own life and the lives of those around you. And that's the reality of it.
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That's awfully presumptous of you. I just want to ask you a question. Exactly which of your problems you think that are so uncommon? Facing assholes in high school? Not liking your city? Feeling unwanted by the opposite sex? Trouble dealing with your parents? What makes you think that your problems are "special" or "worst" than the ones of the "average person"? (though I didn't understand yet what an "average person" is)
You can say that you are suffering a lot, but this still doesn't make your problems uncommon. And you can't say that you suffer more than other people because suffering isn't something measurable that way.
You can say that you are suffering a lot, but this still doesn't make your problems uncommon. And you can't say that you suffer more than other people because suffering isn't something measurable that way.
Try imagining me having all of those put together and even more so. That's what my life is like. The average person may have to go through two or three of those problems. But I highly doubt they have to go through all of those combined like I do.
Adrian in black wrote:
Wow.
Everyone.
Please.
Stop talking.
Vent about something else.
Your homework assignments, toe cheese, stupid drivers, cheap toilet paper, high utility bills, Black Friday and the overcommercialization of Christmas/Christmas shopping.
Venting is a way to get some things off your chest. It can be a good thing. Temporarily. But this thread is not your therapist for your ongoing problems.
Top hat has stated he hates people and has already decided everyone else is an asshole who hates him and whose efforts to help him are not genuine in the least. You can either be insulted by that and keep screaming at him, you can continue to attempt to "reach him," or you can choose to ignore his posts.
I'm sure you're all familiar with the phrase, "Misery loves company." You do understand he is feeding off of all of this negative energy, don't you?
It's human nature to want to help someone else. But it's impossible to help someone who isn't interested in helping themselves. And quite frankly, you can only do so much before someone else's situation ends up being a drain on your own life and the lives of those around you. And that's the reality of it.
Everyone.
Please.
Stop talking.
Vent about something else.
Your homework assignments, toe cheese, stupid drivers, cheap toilet paper, high utility bills, Black Friday and the overcommercialization of Christmas/Christmas shopping.
Venting is a way to get some things off your chest. It can be a good thing. Temporarily. But this thread is not your therapist for your ongoing problems.
Top hat has stated he hates people and has already decided everyone else is an asshole who hates him and whose efforts to help him are not genuine in the least. You can either be insulted by that and keep screaming at him, you can continue to attempt to "reach him," or you can choose to ignore his posts.
I'm sure you're all familiar with the phrase, "Misery loves company." You do understand he is feeding off of all of this negative energy, don't you?
It's human nature to want to help someone else. But it's impossible to help someone who isn't interested in helping themselves. And quite frankly, you can only do so much before someone else's situation ends up being a drain on your own life and the lives of those around you. And that's the reality of it.
Those things are minor problems that don't concern me. I face everything in my life and everything alone. And I never said that everyone hates me. I said that nobody cares. There's a big difference there.
Threads or therapists, neither one works for me to begin with so it's kind of a bad analogy.
So that's it then? I don't even want to help myself? Sorry, but fuck off. I have done EVERYTHING to help myself and it never leads me anywhere. Don't tell me that I don't want to help myself. I have tried. I've been trying every single day of my goddam life. But there hasn't been any change whatsoever.
Oh, so now I'm draining on everyone's life? Well sorry for me having a miserable existence that isn't my fault.
If you want to ignore me, ignore me. I'm used to it, so a bunch of online strangers doing the same isn't going to affect me.
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Adrian in black wrote:
Wow.
Everyone.
Please.
Stop talking.
Vent about something else.
Your homework assignments, toe cheese, stupid drivers, cheap toilet paper, high utility bills, Black Friday and the overcommercialization of Christmas/Christmas shopping.
Venting is a way to get some things off your chest. It can be a good thing. Temporarily. But this thread is not your therapist for your ongoing problems.
Top hat has stated he hates people and has already decided everyone else is an asshole who hates him and whose efforts to help him are not genuine in the least. You can either be insulted by that and keep screaming at him, you can continue to attempt to "reach him," or you can choose to ignore his posts.
I'm sure you're all familiar with the phrase, "Misery loves company." You do understand he is feeding off of all of this negative energy, don't you?
It's human nature to want to help someone else. But it's impossible to help someone who isn't interested in helping themselves. And quite frankly, you can only do so much before someone else's situation ends up being a drain on your own life and the lives of those around you. And that's the reality of it.
Everyone.
Please.
Stop talking.
Vent about something else.
Your homework assignments, toe cheese, stupid drivers, cheap toilet paper, high utility bills, Black Friday and the overcommercialization of Christmas/Christmas shopping.
Venting is a way to get some things off your chest. It can be a good thing. Temporarily. But this thread is not your therapist for your ongoing problems.
Top hat has stated he hates people and has already decided everyone else is an asshole who hates him and whose efforts to help him are not genuine in the least. You can either be insulted by that and keep screaming at him, you can continue to attempt to "reach him," or you can choose to ignore his posts.
I'm sure you're all familiar with the phrase, "Misery loves company." You do understand he is feeding off of all of this negative energy, don't you?
It's human nature to want to help someone else. But it's impossible to help someone who isn't interested in helping themselves. And quite frankly, you can only do so much before someone else's situation ends up being a drain on your own life and the lives of those around you. And that's the reality of it.
Right we have gone a bit overboard it's been like 2 pages of nothing.
Trying to change the subject once again.
I... hate... chrismas... shopping... too much... people... in... shopping... mall... (collaspe)
And can someone explain to me why it cost less to travel in Europe than in my own country Canada?! I want to planify some vacation in may but everything cost so much...
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