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Ok :P How does a monk find the religious justification for using pistols? I thought they were all about blunt damage because it doesn't draw as much blood as a sword.


Monks in 3.5 can use sharp weapons, too. Namely ninja-style peasant tools turned into weapons, like kama and siangham, javelins too, and crossbows. Piercing damage is needed to defeat certain enemy types. And we have another Monk as well, who's a more straight-laced one, disappointed in all my heavy drinking and general attitude towards life. But is still more respectful of me than the Rogues.


Man Monks have changed a fair bit I suppose but I wonder how long before you get into a brawl with this other monk.
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Ok :P How does a monk find the religious justification for using pistols? I thought they were all about blunt damage because it doesn't draw as much blood as a sword.


Monks in 3.5 can use sharp weapons, too. Namely ninja-style peasant tools turned into weapons, like kama and siangham, javelins too, and crossbows. Piercing damage is needed to defeat certain enemy types. And we have another Monk as well, who's a more straight-laced one, disappointed in all my heavy drinking and general attitude towards life. But is still more respectful of me than the Rogues.


Man Monks have changed a fair bit I suppose but I wonder how long before you get into a brawl with this other monk.


I doubt it, much more likely to get into a fight with the rest of the party, who're pretty much all chaotic. Also, different monasteries, different teachings, that's my justification for being the drunken monk XD
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XP Man I love my WiiU, but I detest how it's always being put down by pretty much all of gaming right now. Was just listening to the Giant Bombcast as I occasionally do and they all started laying into it, in spite of what they've said before about it's games they now complain about how they don't think it works at all.

Ugh whatever, if the WiiU isn't 'gaming' then I'm done with gaming, just makes me sad to think the world's focusing on pixel counts and more guns all the time.
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XP Man I love my WiiU, but I detest how it's always being put down by pretty much all of gaming right now. Was just listening to the Giant Bombcast as I occasionally do and they all started laying into it, in spite of what they've said before about it's games they now complain about how they don't think it works at all.

Ugh whatever, if the WiiU isn't 'gaming' then I'm done with gaming, just makes me sad to think the world's focusing on pixel counts and more guns all the time.

I agree with you 100%. I love the Wii U, and it's a disappointment that it's not selling better. However, this doesn't mean that it's going to destroy Nintendo or anything. The Gamecube was Nintendo's worse selling console, only selling about 20 million units worldwide, yet Nintendo still lived on to create the Wii, which sold over 90 million units worldwide.
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XP Man I love my WiiU, but I detest how it's always being put down by pretty much all of gaming right now. Was just listening to the Giant Bombcast as I occasionally do and they all started laying into it, in spite of what they've said before about it's games they now complain about how they don't think it works at all.

Ugh whatever, if the WiiU isn't 'gaming' then I'm done with gaming, just makes me sad to think the world's focusing on pixel counts and more guns all the time.

I agree with you 100%. I love the Wii U, and it's a disappointment that it's not selling better. However, this doesn't mean that it's going to destroy Nintendo or anything. The Gamecube was Nintendo's worse selling console, only selling about 20 million units worldwide, yet Nintendo still lived on to create the Wii, which sold over 90 million units worldwide.


Shit I thought the gamecube was one of the greatest systems out in its generation along with the N64. I personally hated xbox and ps2 during that time. Gamecube had so many good games like wind waker,mario cart double dash and other good games.
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XP Man I love my WiiU, but I detest how it's always being put down by pretty much all of gaming right now. Was just listening to the Giant Bombcast as I occasionally do and they all started laying into it, in spite of what they've said before about it's games they now complain about how they don't think it works at all.

Ugh whatever, if the WiiU isn't 'gaming' then I'm done with gaming, just makes me sad to think the world's focusing on pixel counts and more guns all the time.

I agree with you 100%. I love the Wii U, and it's a disappointment that it's not selling better. However, this doesn't mean that it's going to destroy Nintendo or anything. The Gamecube was Nintendo's worse selling console, only selling about 20 million units worldwide, yet Nintendo still lived on to create the Wii, which sold over 90 million units worldwide.


Shit I thought the gamecube was one of the greatest systems out in its generation along with the N64. I personally hated xbox and ps2 during that time. Gamecube had so many good games like wind waker,mario cart double dash and other good games.


Gamecube was fantastic but it's just so concerning that despite the fact the WiiU is good there's so much stigma people can't overcome...or my worst fear that the gaming demographic has changed too much and now the majority are the stereotype of Xbox 9 year old shooters ¬¬ In which case all of gaming is doomed.
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Shit I thought the gamecube was one of the greatest systems out in its generation along with the N64. I personally hated xbox and ps2 during that time. Gamecube had so many good games like wind waker,mario cart double dash and other good games.


Gamecube was fantastic but it's just so concerning that despite the fact the WiiU is good there's so much stigma people can't overcome...or my worst fear that the gaming demographic has changed too much and now the majority are the stereotype of Xbox 9 year old shooters ¬¬ In which case all of gaming is doomed.


Thats the sad part, xbox and playstation have so many exclusives and games that people in our "now" generation play a lot more of while nintendo is more of a family wholesome system which is more for kids-adults that are part of a family. I think that Nintendo should try to at least open up more to different mature games instead of pandering so much to crappy kids games.That way Nintendo can have different types of audiences for their system to help in sales.
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Really, reasons why I "dislike" the WiiU is because it's too expensive. And that, overall, the game library doesn't seem too appealing to me. Also Region Lock, but I managed to by-pass that with the Wii, I'm sure I could do it with the WiiU.

I mean, I like Wind Waker, but not enough to buy it again. I kinda stopped playing Mario games because they seem like the same thing over and over. Pikmin 3 looks nice, but I dunno... Monster Hunter 3 thingy there, it looks fun, but mostly, it looks like Minecraft to me: it's fun for me to watch other people play it, rather than do it myself. Really, if a new Zelda WiiU game came out, I'd buy the console! Actually, looking at that Dynasty Warrior ver. Zelda, that looks neat and I might get the console for that. But otherwise, nothing appeals to me that much.

Although, why did they think they had to make an all-new console if the WiiU's, or one of its, selling points was that it was basically like the Wii, only with a Gamepad now? Then again, they also have the selling point of it being fun for the whole family, which... I guess if you have a gaming family is great, but I do not. I'm the only one in my family that plays - and my husband is rarely visiting, so multiplayer is generally lost on me.

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Shit I thought the gamecube was one of the greatest systems out in its generation along with the N64. I personally hated xbox and ps2 during that time. Gamecube had so many good games like wind waker,mario cart double dash and other good games.


Gamecube was fantastic but it's just so concerning that despite the fact the WiiU is good there's so much stigma people can't overcome...or my worst fear that the gaming demographic has changed too much and now the majority are the stereotype of Xbox 9 year old shooters ¬¬ In which case all of gaming is doomed.


Thats the sad part, xbox and playstation have so many exclusives and games that people in our "now" generation play a lot more of while nintendo is more of a family wholesome system which is more for kids-adults that are part of a family. I think that Nintendo should try to at least open up more to different mature games instead of pandering so much to crappy kids games.That way Nintendo can have different types of audiences for their system to help in sales.


Bayonetta? Madworld? All the games in Project Rainfall?

The Wii had an extremely user friendly control scheme (as any 5-year old knows how to walk and move their body) therefore folks who want to develop kids games and the like obviously are going to go there over other consoles. It's not like Nintendo is First-partying any of those 'crappy kids games'.

It's not necessarily that Nintendo are looking for those kids developers, the Wii wasn't powerful enough to run a lot of PS3 and Xbox stuff but the games it did bring out didn't need that level of realism, Super Mario Galaxy was a masterpiece with it's cartoony 'kids' graphics after all.

The second they were powerful enough the WiiU got a bunch of ports from PS3 and Xbox of those "mature" games.
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Bayonetta? Madworld? All the games in Project Rainfall?

The Wii had an extremely user friendly control scheme (as any 5-year old knows how to walk and move their body) therefore folks who want to develop kids games and the like obviously are going to go there over other consoles. It's not like Nintendo is First-partying any of those 'crappy kids games'.

It's not necessarily that Nintendo are looking for those kids developers, the Wii wasn't powerful enough to run a lot of PS3 and Xbox stuff but the games it did bring out didn't need that level of realism, Super Mario Galaxy was a masterpiece with it's cartoony 'kids' graphics after all.

The second they were powerful enough the WiiU got a bunch of ports from PS3 and Xbox of those "mature" games.


Thats only A few plus you forgot RE. Im just saying they focus more on too many kids games which I don't mind because I really enjoyed Super Mario Galaxy. I can't say much for the WiiU since I don't own it but reason why I didn't buy it was because it was too expensive and I didn't like much of the games that were out for it. I liked a few when I tried out the WiiU at the Nintendo World store in New York but not enough good games to warrant me to buy it. Hopefully since the Wii U is powerful I might consider getting it if the price drops and there are more better games for it.

On another note for a subject change, I'm watching my girlfriend play the final trial of case 4 which Im glad im getting her into the series.
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My apologies I forgot to say it was of Dual Destinies
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My apologies I forgot to say it was of Dual Destinies


...ah, astronauts, right?

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My apologies I forgot to say it was of Dual Destinies


...ah, astronauts, right?

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I'm also sad to see that the Wii U is being put down as much as it is. I don't own one yet (curse the fact that I can't seem to get a job yet), but I have played it quite a few times at a friends house and it looks pretty great. To be honest, it looks a lot more interesting to me than the Xbox One or the PS4 does. I'm looking forward to playing Bayonetta 2, smash Bros 4, The Wonderful 101, and Monolith Soft's new RPG to name a few. Also Wind Waker HD will be nice to get since I ended up missing out on the game when it came out.
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The Wii U just has a massive image problem. Personally, I prefer to do as much gaming as I can on the PC, and to me, the PS4 and XBOne are trying to be too much like a PC. Many worthwhile PS4/XBOne games are available on PC, and I don't think you can doubt that pc is more powerful, its just more expensive, however I feel that the new consoles are too expensive without enough functionality. There's also the fact that you tend to pay less for games on pc (steam sales, all dem savings), so it seems too much in the middle of both markets to be worth it. Those don't seem like the right choice for gaming platform.

The Wii U seems to understand that it can never compete in power with pc, or even the other consoles, so it creates things that make it unique in of itself. Be it the controls, and the games that can come out of it, or the strong first party development at Nintendo, there is good reason to buy a Wii U. There's just a massive image problem, because people believe its too kiddy. This is part of an overarching issue with games in general. There is a large belief that mature things in a game=maturity, but to me this is completely wrong. Games can take on mature or adult issues, but by stuffing them into a game until that's all that defines that game, that makes it seem juvenile. People also seem to think that colors aren't maturity, but true maturity will embrace that. By saying the Wii U is too "kiddy" shows how you fall into a trap that I desperately want people to break out of, to allow games to grow.

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The Wii U just has a massive image problem. Personally, I prefer to do as much gaming as I can on the PC, and to me, the PS4 and XBOne are trying to be too much like a PC. Many worthwhile PS4/XBOne games are available on PC, and I don't think you can doubt that pc is more powerful, its just more expensive, however I feel that the new consoles are too expensive without enough functionality. There's also the fact that you tend to pay less for games on pc (steam sales, all dem savings), so it seems too much in the middle of both markets to be worth it. Those don't seem like the right choice for gaming platform.

The Wii U seems to understand that it can never compete in power with pc, or even the other consoles, so it creates things that make it unique in of itself. Be it the controls, and the games that can come out of it, or the strong first party development at Nintendo, there is good reason to buy a Wii U. There's just a massive image problem, because people believe its too kiddy. This is part of an overarching issue with games in general. There is a large belief that mature things in a game=maturity, but to me this is completely wrong. Games can take on mature or adult issues, but by stuffing them into a game until that's all that defines that game, that makes it seem juvenile. People also seem to think that colors aren't maturity, but true maturity will embrace that. By saying the Wii U is too "kiddy" shows how you fall into a trap that I desperately want people to break out of, to allow games to grow.

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Damn man you hit the nail on the head.
Graphics do not necessarily equal maturity, I'd hardly call Saint's Row 'mature' in any actual sense, but Bravely Default with it's chibified characters tackles some really grim moments for one example.

Though this is the reason why I'm worried about everyone calling for Nintendo to become a Third Party Software developer. Like people really expect things would change for the better if those IPs left Nintendo? Nintendo's selling point is it's exclusivity, the fact it's knows it's place and focuses on it's uniqueness rather than trying to emulate PCs. The less other companies have to do with that the better.

It's just irritating since that "restructuring" announcement it seems the vast majority are willing to say it's the end times.
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Damn man you hit the nail on the head.
Graphics do not necessarily equal maturity, I'd hardly call Saint's Row 'mature' in any actual sense, but Bravely Default with it's chibified characters tackles some really grim moments for one example.

Though this is the reason why I'm worried about everyone calling for Nintendo to become a Third Party Software developer. Like people really expect things would change for the better if those IPs left Nintendo? Nintendo's selling point is it's exclusivity, the fact it's knows it's place and focuses on it's uniqueness rather than trying to emulate PCs. The less other companies have to do with that the better.

It's just irritating since that "restructuring" announcement it seems the vast majority are willing to say it's the end times.

I don't think Nintendo would be very good third party software developers personally. Nintendo games understand intrinsically what their console, and what their games, are defined by, allowing them to tailor them to each other. They are able to integrate their hardware and software in a way that isn't restrictive. I usually dislike when software and hardware are closely intertwined, because that leads to restrictions, leading to lack of innovation, but what Nintendo does is understand that what they want to do can't be done with traditional hardware. Instead of hurting the consumer, Nintendo gives the consumer a greater experience, which would be lost if they were 3rd party.

Also, a few last words about maturity. I'm all for dark/gritty games, IF those things have a purpose. Infact, my favorite game of all time is Bioshock, and that's quite dark, violent, and uses mature themes in it, but those are all used to enforce the message the game is trying to show the player. This message is also incredibly deep and compelling leading to an overarching experience that is so amazing. I will say without the violence, without the darkness, the game wouldn't have worked. It's when it becomes the only characteristic of the game when it gets bad.

I like to think of it like this. When you think of a mature person, we tend to believe that older people tend to be more mature, right? Now you don't see old people going around getting drunk, having sex 24/7 blah, blah, blah. They are still aware of these things, and still may indulge in things such as alcohol and sex, but they don't overdo it to the point that many younger and "immature" would go to. This is the way I always like to explain it to someone who isn't familiar with games, and I think its the most clear cut way to explain it.
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Pretty much any game on the PlayStation that interests me is also available for PC. I could get every PlayStation game that interests me for the PC and still spend less than I would have for a PS4. As for the XBox, it's pretty much in the same boat. Heck, my family only bothered with the PS2 because my sister was interested in the Kingdom Hearts games. She eventually got a PS3 herself for the Mass Effect trilogy (which I can get on the PC). The only reason I own a Vita is so I can play Persona 4 Golden. Were it available for the PC, I'd have just gotten it for the PC--given the gameplay style, it would probably be pretty easy to port without it losing any of its distinctive feel. I can save at least $400.00 per console on PS4 and XBox One games just by getting their PC versions.

The same cannot be said for Nintendo's first-party games. The Wii U got off to a slow start. I will concede that point without hesitation; very few games available for it even remotely interest me at the moment. However, I do not expect that to be the case for much longer. I would be quite surprised if the console didn't get a nice boost from the next Super Smash Bros. game. Of course, even without that boost, there are other games exclusive to the Wii U that interest me. The same cannot be said for its competitors. I fully expect a new Zelda game at some point, probably a new Kirby game, and if we're lucky, a new Fire Emblem game, too. I imagine we haven't seen the last of Mario this generation, either. Unless those games start getting PC ports, I have ample reason to consider the Wii U a good investment. Any so-called "expert" calling for Nintendo to back out of the console wars can take his/her doomsday prophecies and shove them up the orifice his/her head currently occupies.
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Well they could always abandon the Wii U and make a new console in 2015/16
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News from Machinima on the rumored next new console Fusion



I really doubt this is true. It's much too early for them to be making a new console and Nintendo isn't nearly that desperate yet, especially with the new Smash Bros and Zelda title in production for the Wii U.

Also, there's This. Assuming the article is completely factual, this would only prove this point further. I don't think they would reuse the name of the music/video game festival they sponsored for a secret code name for a new console.
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Good news for Kill La Kill fans: Kill La Kill Manga


One does not simply read Kill la Kill. It's an entirely visual and audio experience that only the anime medium can offer.
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Good news for Kill La Kill fans: Kill La Kill Manga


One does not simply read Kill la Kill. It's an entirely visual and audio experience that only the anime medium can offer.


Well i'm liking the manga more. I like the art style of it. Plus with manga you usual get more stuff that the anime didn't add due to the time limit of each episode
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One does not simply read Kill la Kill. It's an entirely visual and audio experience that only the anime medium can offer.


Well i'm liking the manga more. I like the art style of it. Plus with manga you usual get more stuff that the anime didn't add due to the time limit of each episode


That's usually when anime is made based off manga, and not the other way around. Even when they DO add a few extra details here and there, it's not considered canon.
But if that's what you wanna do then go have fun with it.
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Well i'm liking the manga more. I like the art style of it. Plus with manga you usual get more stuff that the anime didn't add due to the time limit of each episode


That's usually when anime is made based off manga, and not the other way around. Even when they DO add a few extra details here and there, it's not considered canon.
But if that's what you wanna do then go have fun with it.



There are things that get added into the manga that are memorable as well if it was in the anime but couldn't be added in the anime due to it being less than 30 mins without commercial. Thats why I rather read a manga first and then watch the anime after to see the significant differences. Another reason I would rather read the manga is because I rather use my imagination for the artwork imagining how it will play out which is why i refused to watch the anime after episode 1. Thanks I will have fun with it :hotti:
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Well they could always abandon the Wii U and make a new console in 2015/16


News from Machinima on the rumored next new console Fusion



I really doubt this is true. It's much too early for them to be making a new console and Nintendo isn't nearly that desperate yet, especially with the new Smash Bros and Zelda title in production for the Wii U.

Also, there's This. Assuming the article is completely factual, this would only prove this point further. I don't think they would reuse the name of the music/video game festival they sponsored for a secret code name for a new console.


I dunno dude. They did announce quite a bit at their little conference thingie. Smartphone development, licensing their IP's to other things, and
Siliconera even said they're going to shift into Healthy stuff.
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half lab half pit half brown
hell thas thee hafs!
i got's me a 150% dog
she's sleepin on my bed
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i had no idea how yo just use a webcam
i hat to go on skype
act like i was chaning my picture
then i had to screncap said picture
then uploadit
then type it out
then see i typed it wrong
then i just copy and paste it
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The Wii U just has a massive image problem.


I think another problem with the WiiU's slow start, was the marketing. Now, I didn't see any WiiU advertisment on my TV, but I saw some on the internet lately, when people were talking about the rumor of the new Fusion - quite frankly, I think it's nothing more than a rumor.
And it seems like the WiiU was heavily advertised to be for families, for bringing people together and, I guess, it overall didn't help much that the name made people think that it was nothing more than an add-on for the Wii. So much so, that Nintendo had to send e-Mails out saying, "The WiiU is a whole new console, not an accessory".

Now, I have nothing against the idea of whole-family-fun consoles - I mean, it's better than my original Wii impression, where every damn ad I saw for it advertised the freaking WiiFit. Dude, I do not buy a game console to do some freaking exercise. I buy it to play games!
Hence why it took me so long to get one.
But not everybody goes for the whole-family-fun stuff. I really hate using this word, but "real, hardcore gamers" tend to go for the powerful, heavy stuff with lots of multiplayer - online multiplayer - and similar. It sounds stupid, but that's what it feels like. I mean, I know that KWing has a WiiU, which is overall pretty understandable and great. I do know him for doing a lot of gameplay reviews or co-ops with his wife.

Also, didn't the WiiU advertisment also focus a lot on those... party-games? You know, where they all stand in a circle, holding hands and jumping clockwise... I dunno, I don't think a self-respecting person would instantly buy a game console, having seen that...

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Fusion rumours wouldn't make sense to me, seems too soon to be calling for a new console already.
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Pierre wrote:
Fusion rumours wouldn't make sense to me, seems too soon to be calling for a new console already.


Well they are kinda desperate about the money lose. I read that the president of nintendo cut his salary in half because of the bad sales. Poor Satoru Iwata
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Pierre wrote:
Fusion rumours wouldn't make sense to me, seems too soon to be calling for a new console already.


Well they are kinda desperate about the money lose. I read that the president of nintendo cut his salary in half because of the bad sales. Poor Satoru Iwata


So the solution is a new console focused primarily on health? It's not the answer to a desperate situation, and it's not as doomsday as people say it is.

Though I do love Iwata for taking noble actions like that.
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Pierre wrote:
Fool Bright wrote:
Pierre wrote:
Fusion rumours wouldn't make sense to me, seems too soon to be calling for a new console already.


Well they are kinda desperate about the money lose. I read that the president of nintendo cut his salary in half because of the bad sales. Poor Satoru Iwata


So the solution is a new console focused primarily on health? It's not the answer to a desperate situation, and it's not as doomsday as people say it is.

Though I do love Iwata for taking noble actions like that.


What were the health reasons as to why they decided to make a new console. I agree but you had to see it coming since Japanese businessmen take their jobs very seriously.
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Health reasons for a new console? Health?

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What were the health reasons as to why they decided to make a new console.


Health reasons to make a new console? We're talking about a new console DEDICATED to health.
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CatMuto wrote:
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The Wii U just has a massive image problem.


I think another problem with the WiiU's slow start, was the marketing. Now, I didn't see any WiiU advertisment on my TV, but I saw some on the internet lately, when people were talking about the rumor of the new Fusion - quite frankly, I think it's nothing more than a rumor.
And it seems like the WiiU was heavily advertised to be for families, for bringing people together and, I guess, it overall didn't help much that the name made people think that it was nothing more than an add-on for the Wii. So much so, that Nintendo had to send e-Mails out saying, "The WiiU is a whole new console, not an accessory".

Now, I have nothing against the idea of whole-family-fun consoles - I mean, it's better than my original Wii impression, where every damn ad I saw for it advertised the freaking WiiFit. Dude, I do not buy a game console to do some freaking exercise. I buy it to play games!
Hence why it took me so long to get one.
But not everybody goes for the whole-family-fun stuff. I really hate using this word, but "real, hardcore gamers" tend to go for the powerful, heavy stuff with lots of multiplayer - online multiplayer - and similar. It sounds stupid, but that's what it feels like. I mean, I know that KWing has a WiiU, which is overall pretty understandable and great. I do know him for doing a lot of gameplay reviews or co-ops with his wife.

Also, didn't the WiiU advertisment also focus a lot on those... party-games? You know, where they all stand in a circle, holding hands and jumping clockwise... I dunno, I don't think a self-respecting person would instantly buy a game console, having seen that...

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When I say image problem, that includes the marketing. The marketers job is to give the game a good image, so just wanted to clarify that. And where you say "hardcore gamers", I think of them more as "dude-bro gamers", or the stereotypical Call of Duty player, which seems to define games right now, and that's something that I feel the industry needs to get over. It's holding games back in sense of what could be design, and the respect that outsiders have towards it. People don't respect games, and I don't think that's helping, but then again, the "kiddy" games aren't helping either, because people fail to look past the first impression.

Hopefully the game culture will be in a little bit better shape when I get to the industry (hopefully).
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The Wii U did put a sort of focus on offline multiplayer, more than 'Party' games.

I think it's meant to be what the "U" represents, as in "Me and You" playing on the couch.
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Blak The Great wrote:
Fool Bright wrote:
What were the health reasons as to why they decided to make a new console.


Health reasons to make a new console? We're talking about a new console DEDICATED to health.


No shit, I meant what health problems arose in order for them to decide to make a system dedicated to health
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