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So his assistant will be Ami Fey? I swear if those two shag, it'll be very, very creepy.

Uhhhhhh.
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The Meiji period (明治時代 Meiji-jidai?), also known as the Meiji era, is a Japanese era which extended from September 1868 through July 1912.

So, no. I wonder if they will have a Fey ancestor in the game though.


When did Ami Fey live? Also, of course we'll have a spirit medium in the game somewhere!

Oh, I wonder if we'll get any Steel Samurai references somehow...Manella's ancestor, anyone?


I accidentally confused Ami with Misty. Introducing Ami may actually make some sense... but I don't think they'd go so far to make Nick actually distantly related to Maya. I'd hope Takumi is above that sort of weirdness.
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So his assistant will be Ami Fey? I swear if those two shag, it'll be very, very creepy, and Phoenix and Maya's relationship would be very different.

Confirmed? I've only seen people throw Ami being the assistant out as a possibility.

Also, I just saw someone trying to use that as an argument to sink Phoenix/Maya and support (their apparently preferred) Phoenix/Iris... who's also a Fey if I'm not mistaken? The irony. :redd:
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Would it be possible that the Dekillers would be entioned somewhere in this game?
If i got my info right here this takes place around the time they started.
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...the Meiji Era.
Well, okay. It seems a bit... odd, to have a GS game in that era, but if they think it'll work...

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Ami Fey, -the ancestor of Maya- being Ryunosuke's -the ancestor of Nick- assistant? The story writes itself! Seriously though, that'd be such a neat idea, having the world's first spirit channeller as your sidekick. I'd like to see that happen! Also, did the Meiji era have any unique punishments for crime? I wonder what the stakes are?
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Well, well, well I am very happy to have Shu Takumi leading another Gyakuten Saiban. :edgey: I'll be interested in seeing how the choice to take place in the Meiji period sets the story.

I swear to myself this time no spoilers. I'm still a little angry at myself for giving into PLvsAA impatience (if US release happens).
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So our new layer friend looks like a mix of Nick and Apollo interesting, anyway is this a confirmed AA6? Or is it a spin off like the Investigation series?
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So our new layer friend looks like a mix of Nick and Apollo interesting, anyway is this a confirmed AA6? Or is it a spin off like the Investigation series?

We still don't know for sure if the DD team is working on a separate game, but I'm pretty sure this is a spin-off. AA6 would have to continue the story after DD (and hopefully get back to Apollo's story?).
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So our new layer friend looks like a mix of Nick and Apollo interesting, anyway is this a confirmed AA6? Or is it a spin off like the Investigation series?

We still don't know for sure if the DD team is working on a separate game, but I'm pretty sure this is a spin-off. AA6 would have to continue the story after DD (and hopefully get back to Apollo's story?).

Well I have no objections if the Dual Destinies team is working on AA6 while this game is being made by another team. This is going to be an interesting next couple of years for the Ace Attorney series.
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YES :gant:
I'm really excited for this one, I hope it's even better than Dual Destinies and the crossover.
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Am I the only one who could see the final case being a mixture of the present and past. "Solving a case that was left unsolved for over 100 years".
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This is certainly... Interesting news. I can't really give a full fledged opinion with the few details we know, unfortunately...
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Can't wait until this gets localized as Rootin' Tootin Ace Attorney where the translators give everyone cowboy hats and Southern accents.

Still, I'm pretty excited to see how this pans out.
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Welp. This is certainly... something. Do we know if this is the same game that the DD team said they were working on?

To be perfectly honest, I can't say I like this idea too much. But Takumi is heading the project, so I'm going to be open-minded and optimistic. (I think mostly I just don't want to have to read everyone speaking in Meiji-era Japanese; AA is already tough enough xD)

I also find it kind of hilarious how the protag is a mix of Nick and Polly AND NO ATHENA, PRAISE THE LORD


That's Takumi's new project yeah, but it's different from Eshiro's project.

According to the 4Gamer interview from December :

- Eshiro recently started working on a brand new AA game with Yamazaki writing the scenario (same ol' team), but dev. barely started and game is nowhere near a presentable state
- Takumi has been working on his new project for months, with developement production ramping up in the past few months (Takumi said he rarely went outside, really focusing on the game instead). It was to be revealed in 2014.

So yeah; there's 2 AA games in development, and this is the 2nd one. They're clearly separate (and anyway, wouldn't make sense for Eshiro to work on this, when there's already Takumi).


Sorry if this was already answered in a previous post :shoe:
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Am I the only one who could see the final case being a mixture of the present and past. "Solving a case that was left unsolved for over 100 years".

That probably wouldn't work very well considering the Statute of Limitations and just about everyone involved with such a case will probably have already died of natural causes.
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I could see a scenario where the events of these cases have led to an event in the present Ace Attorney universe and I could see Nick having to use Maya's abilities to communicate with the people who were on this case. Would be an interesting tie in.
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To be honest, I can't say I'm loving the idea, but it is Takumi who's working on it, so I will be optimistic about it. Takumi has the ability to make anything great, really.
Anyway, I do think that if they bring this game over to the west that they should just leave it to take place in Japan and scrap the whole Japanifornia idea for this game. The Meiji era would be almost impossible to localize believeably into an American and European time period. They could change the names into of course, but leave the game in Japan.
Also, I happen to think this new protagonist is cute, and I just bet that the Judge in this game is going to appear identical to our Udgey~ :udgey:
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PHOENIX'S JAPANESE NAME IS NARUHODOU RYUUICHI
APOLLO'S JAPANESE NAME IS ODOROKI HOUSUKE

NARUHODOU RYUUNOSUKE = NARUHODOU RYUUICHI + NO + ODOROKI HOUSUKE

Calling it right now: he is a common ancestor of both Phoenix and Apollo, hence beginning the Assassin's Creed-ization of Ace Attorney. The prosecutor will be an ancestor of Edgeworth, and maybe of the Von Karmas too.

English title will be Apollonix Wrightice: Good Ol' Ace Attorney, will sell millions
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Udgey could still be in the game. We don't know how old he is after all. It would be pretty funny to see him again looking exactly the same
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I got this, you guys!: Aiden Wright, the Last Samurai Or, I dunno, Ares, if he's gonna be related to Apollo?

Really great news! And yet I'm still expecting the Gavins to be involved somehow, for some reason xD
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It may just be because TAKUMI, but I'm feeling optimistic about this one.
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Heck - I'm never going to complain about a new GS game being released, no matter what it's like. Capcom will love using it's obscure setting as a reason not to localise... :yogi: . I have to admit I'd have hoped for a different direction to this but like I asid, I'm not complaining. I'm glad the series is moving on.
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Just because the setting isn't in America doesn't mean they won't localize it.

They localized both Okami and is sequel when they were heavily influenced by Japanese culture.
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Ash wrote:
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(I think mostly I just don't want to have to read everyone speaking in Meiji-era Japanese; AA is already tough enough xD)


The spelling (kanji) is a bit different and the wording might be a bit archaic, but Meiji/Taishou Japanese isn't that hard if you can read modern Japanese. At least it's readable, in comparison to kanbun! (though there might be more dialectal talk: a lot of the influential persons in the Meiji period came from Kyushu for obvious historical reasons).

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I feel like the sword is a bit unsubtle. Hopefully it gets justified otherwise it's just an unnecessarily obvious prop.


Historically, defense attorneys fell under the Shihoushou (Ministry of Justice), and law enforcement officials/people in the military were allowed to carry swords.

There better be a beat-em-up action sequence in this game.

No, it's still a mystery adventure game, but there better damn well be a fight scene. They don't carry around swords for nothin'.

By the way, Ash, just how different is Meiji Japanese from modern?

Edit: Thinking about it, since it still is a game targeted for teens, the amount of Meiji Japanese actually used in this game may be limited. It'd be frustrating for players to have to check dictionaries just to understand what characters are saying. LKvsGS was a pretty good balance between archaic and modern role language for the most part.

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PHOENIX'S JAPANESE NAME IS NARUHODOU RYUUICHI
APOLLO'S JAPANESE NAME IS ODOROKI HOUSUKE

NARUHODOU RYUUNOSUKE = NARUHODOU RYUUICHI + NO + ODOROKI HOUSUKE

Calling it right now: he is a common ancestor of both Phoenix and Apollo, hence beginning the Assassin's Creed-ization of Ace Attorney. The prosecutor will be an ancestor of Edgeworth, and maybe of the Von Karmas too.

English title will be Apollonix Wrightice: Good Ol' Ace Attorney, will sell millions

I know I'd buy it, especially if we get to beat up criminals ourselves.

For some reason, when I saw that name, I thought of Hoshikage Soranosuke... aka Grossberg.
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Gammalad wrote:
I could see a scenario where the events of these cases have led to an event in the present Ace Attorney universe and I could see Nick having to use Maya's abilities to communicate with the people who were on this case. Would be an interesting tie in.

This is exactly what I thought as well. Someone on Neogaf called this game "Ace Attorney Origins" or something like that. It would be cool and reminiscent of AJ:AA's plot but on a larger time-scale.

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Just because the setting isn't in America doesn't mean they won't localize it.

They localized both Okami and is sequel when they were heavily influenced by Japanese culture.

But the true problem is if DaiGS will be tied to the mainline AA series canonwise. Then they'd have to somehow make our American Nick tied to his Meiji-japanese bloodline, and that'd be kinda weird... and I just don't think localizing "Meiji-era" into something else is gonna work for such a culturally determined concept -- not to mention, how would they make this concept appealing to the general 3DS userbase.

I know plenty of ppl who jumped on board because of Dual Destinies, but this idea... I don't know if Capcom would risk it. There was a reason they decided against localising the quiz-dlc in Dual Destinies, you know. :ron:
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I hope I get to see Maya's great great great great great great great great great great great (looks up when the Meiji Era occured)

Oh, uhhh, I think I put too many greats in there.
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Oh my gosh I'm sooooooooo excited! I can't wait to play it!!! (I'm just going to be optimistic and say it will localize)

Also the post with the scan said that was the first scan, so can we expect another scan or something else like that?
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So apparently he is Phoenix Wright's ancestor, and has a strong sense of justice (hmm wonder where I've heard that before...) and is quick to put himself in danger.

Anyway, this game gets all my hype, and not just because of Takumi. Can't wait! (Please bring this to England Capcom!)
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That's Takumi's new project yeah, but it's different from Eshiro's project.

According to the 4Gamer interview from December :

- Eshiro recently started working on a brand new AA game with Yamazaki writing the scenario (same ol' team), but dev. barely started and game is nowhere near a presentable state
- Takumi has been working on his new project for months, with developement production ramping up in the past few months (Takumi said he rarely went outside, really focusing on the game instead). It was to be revealed in 2014.

So yeah; there's 2 AA games in development, and this is the 2nd one. They're clearly separate (and anyway, wouldn't make sense for Eshiro to work on this, when there's already Takumi).


Sorry if this was already answered in a previous post :shoe:

K, thanks for the confirmation.

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Not sure if it's really worth mentioning, but the director is Shintaro Kojima, who has worked on EX Troopers and Monster Hunter.

Source : http://www.siliconera.com/2014/04/22/new-ace-attorney-game-will-take-place-meiji-period-japan/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+siliconera%2FMkOc+%28Siliconera%29

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Wait, I just realized/remembered, wasn't there a GS-ish mystery game set in Meiji Japan for iOS a while ago?
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By the way, Ash, just how different is Meiji Japanese from modern?


Well, it has the normal pre-war Japanese characteristics, so older kanji usage, different おくりがな, older use of kana (like ひ instead of い, i.e. おもひで instead of おもいで), grammar is slightly closer to classical Japanese (i.e. 連体形 and a 終止形 form of a verb can differ). Also, katakana is the default, not hiragana. You can find some text on Aozora bunko, probably, or the Meiji constitution to see how it looks like.

And also important, Standard Japanese wasn't invented until early Meiji (Meiji...4? 5?). The Bakuhan system had divided Japan in smaller countries for 400 years, so the differences in dialects were quite big (as there was controlled flow of language (speakers) until Meiji). Standard Japanese ("Tokyo" Japanese) is just a product of language policy, so especially in early Meiji, everyone was just speaking in their own dialect.

Edit: but there's no way the game will feature real Meiji Japanese. Maaaaaybe one or two characters who talk a faux Meiji Japanese, like Chrono Trigger's Frog's English.

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Wait, I just realized/remembered, wasn't there a GS-ish mystery game set in Meiji Japan for iOS a while ago?


Edotan was as the name suggest, set in Edo Japan (the one before Meiji, but "Edo" is a rather long time period....)
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19th century Japan? Phoenix's ancestor? I like this.
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Here's hoping that this does somehow get localized. I don't know how the localization team are gonna fit this into the canon continuity, considering all the effort that went into making sure the games were set in America and Definitely Not Japanese! Nine Tails Vale is just populated by Japanese immigrants, guys! We're still in America!

But then with the fate of AAI2 and the Dual Destinies digital-only release... of course, I'm definitely not saying it's impossible, but I'm guessing this is going to be tricky to bring to the West at the very least.

If it didn't get localized, I would still buy the Japanese version, except region locking exists. Thanks Nintendo!
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I'll probably end up getting a Limited Edition bundle again.
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I-It's beautiful...! I'm extremely optimistic about this because, well, Shu Takumi. He will make it work. The localization chances are pretty low but I'm strangely convinced that Capcom will take a gamble on this title and release it overseas. I can't wait to read the transaltion of the page~
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I just have a feeling there will be several hints tying it into the main serious. If I do not see a single Steel Samurai I will be very disappointed.
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For those wondering when we'll get more info: Famitsu doesn't officially release until the 24th in Japan, and the official sites/press tend to go up sometime in the morning on the day of. That's about, say, 28-30 hours from now.

That said, it's possible that more leakers will get ahold of the magazine today and post more scans.

As for what said official press will be - no idea! Apparently the game doesn't have any sort of release date listed, so I don't know how much they're willing to show off. We might get a 'concept' trailer like the first AAI did (which got an early reveal in Famitsu in the spring and more info at TGS in the fall.)

Also, my own thoughts on the game: as I said before, it looks interesting, and I'm looking forward to Takumi's take on a period mystery - I just hope they don't lean on "ancestors of known characters" too much. I'll give Ryuunosuke a pass, since they need some way to tie it to the main series, but I'll be disappointed if he works with Maya's great-grandmother and goes up against Edgeworth's great-grandfather or something like that.
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