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Walter White wrote:
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Btw how did you even beat SDR2 so fast? Did you just wiki everything?
This would be my guess.
Yeah don't get it
It's an emu, a kind of bird.
But the joke is that 'emu' can also be a shorthand for 'emulator'... At least, I think that was the joke BP was going for.
Well? Are we going or what?
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Alonso Swift wrote:
Walter White wrote:
It's an emu, a kind of bird.
But the joke is that 'emu' can also be a shorthand for 'emulator'... At least, I think that was the joke BP was going for.
Makes sense but SDR2 is very buggy on emulators so its very hard to play it. Also when i asked how she beat it so fast was because a day or two later she acted like she beat the game so i got curious.
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Um, no. I figured out their plans (and reveals) before things happened so the impact was likely lost on me...
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Because you cheated and used wiki's and game guides xP
Spoiler: Maizono
Btw how did you even beat SDR2 so fast? Did you just wiki everything?
*poke* My Danganronpa LP was blind, except for knowing that thing about Genocider Shou. (Which was your fault, FYI, what with that signature of yours. Then again, when it became "important" it was once again painfully obvious) Seriously, the games are not very good in hiding their plot twists.
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Makes sense but SDR2 is very buggy on emulators so its very hard to play it. Also when i asked how she beat it so fast was because a day or two later she acted like she beat the game so i got curious.
SDR2 works fine on PPSSPP... as long as you don't use savestates, cause if you load one the music stutters until it changes to new BGM. (Which doesn't bother me at all if I just turn the sound off) Also, yes, I looked up stuff about SDR2 as I was playing, cause I've said it before - I'm fine with Japanese but kanji gives me trouble so I looked up some things to help me along.
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CatMuto wrote:
Walter White wrote:
CatMuto wrote:
Um, no. I figured out their plans (and reveals) before things happened so the impact was likely lost on me...
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Because you cheated and used wiki's and game guides xP
Spoiler: Maizono
Btw how did you even beat SDR2 so fast? Did you just wiki everything?
*poke* My Danganronpa LP was blind, except for knowing that thing about Genocider Shou. (Which was your fault, FYI, what with that signature of yours. Then again, when it became "important" it was once again painfully obvious) Seriously, the games are not very good in hiding their plot twists.
It feels like a Murder Mystery Clue game for pre-schoolers.Quote:
Makes sense but SDR2 is very buggy on emulators so its very hard to play it. Also when i asked how she beat it so fast was because a day or two later she acted like she beat the game so i got curious.
SDR2 works fine on PPSSPP... as long as you don't use savestates, cause if you load one the music stutters until it changes to new BGM. (Which doesn't bother me at all if I just turn the sound off) Also, yes, I looked up stuff about SDR2 as I was playing, cause I've said it before - I'm fine with Japanese but kanji gives me trouble so I looked up some things to help me along.
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*Smacks with stick* I know. I watched the LP video's, I was only joking to be a ass xD
Are you talking about my avatar? because my sig isn't weird in any way
Well I can't argue because I watched the anime before the game so i knew what was gonna happen.
So you basicially cheated to get by the game? *wags finger* shame shame
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Also, it's really not that difficult to get through DR/DR2 (unless you aren't great with Kanji, nyeh) and really... given how several of the cases feel like rehashes from the previous game, the DR2 ones seem... weaker.
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CatMuto wrote:
The old signature you had that showed Genocider Sho.
Also, it's really not that difficult to get through DR/DR2 (unless you aren't great with Kanji, nyeh) and really... given how several of the cases feel like rehashes from the previous game, the DR2 ones seem... weaker.
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Also, it's really not that difficult to get through DR/DR2 (unless you aren't great with Kanji, nyeh) and really... given how several of the cases feel like rehashes from the previous game, the DR2 ones seem... weaker.
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What did it look like?
Well I'm finally up to the first murder right now and I know who did it because of accidental spoiler but I don't know how he did it. So far seems challenging to me. I'll see how my first class trial goes.
Also ofcourse seems easier to you since you admitted to using wiki cheater
Spoiler: Nekomaru
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CatMuto wrote:
The signature was the introduction screen one of Genocider Shou in the anime.
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Ah okie I remember that :P
Gotta give my thoughts so far on the class trial. The class trial in DR2 are way better than DR. So far one feature I love is the fact that the other characters can rebuttal your argument which leads to a showdown between the character where you slice up their weak statements by slashing the statements in different directions based on how the statement is positioned (horizontal, vertical, etc) until they slip up with their weakest statement which you can attack with your truth blade which is the truth bullet but turned into a blade for the showdown.
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Spoiler: DR2 Ch 1
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genodragon1 wrote:
Spoiler: SDR2 Spoilers
Umm what part you talking about? xD
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Walter White wrote:
genodragon1 wrote:
Spoiler: SDR2 Spoilers
Umm what part you talking about? xD
Spoiler: SDR2 Spoilers
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genodragon1 wrote:
Walter White wrote:
genodragon1 wrote:
Spoiler: SDR2 Spoilers
Umm what part you talking about? xD
Spoiler: SDR2 Spoilers
Spoiler: DR2
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Walter White wrote:
Spoiler: DR2
Spoiler: DR2 - Komaeda
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Spoiler: SDR2
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Spoiler: SDR2
Spoiler: SDR2
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Walter White wrote:
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Spoiler: SDR2
Spoiler: SDR2
I didn't say it was portrayed accurately. Media has a hard time portraying many illnesses.
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genodragon1 wrote:
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Spoiler: SDR2
Spoiler: SDR2
I didn't say it was portrayed accurately. Media has a hard time portraying many illnesses.
Well they would have stilled portrayed it similar to it if he did have it since its the most common symptoms of it.
I still haven't gotten far yet so I don't know too much of how the "Despair Fever" works.
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Oh and seems like Togami and Naegi are gonna be in Danganronpa Another Episode.
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Ash wrote:
Spike does a lot of marketing in its own games, actually. You can usually find posters of other games in the background. And there's a Monokuma suit in PSP's Gachitora! for example. Heck, they even managed to get a Monokuma in Level-5's Time Travelers. But Spike(-Chunsoft) has been sitting on the Twilight Syndrome IP for a long time, so I hope they'll leave the DR franchise rest for a while, and focus on some of their other IPs.
In Ch 2 I remember they actually made a reference to Twilight syndrome when it came the motive for murder and you could play Monokuma's version of it.
I haven't played too many Spike games except for the DR series.
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Because DR is stupid.
(If you want an IC explanation, everyone was just too freaked out to think of it, but I think it was stupid how they made such a huge deal of it earlier, and then they completely pass it over later on.)
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Well, since I have no plans of getting a PS Vita, I gave in and watched a fan translation of Super Danganronpa 2 on YouTube.
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Spoiler:
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But I liked some of them cause I found them entertaining. Togami, despite being a jerk that lots of people seem to hate and want dead, especially for his behavior in Chapter 2, is enjoyable for me because he does seem to almost make a joke out of their situation. And really, sometimes when you're in a terrible situation, you gotta make a joke about it to cope. Fukawa was relateable but I do not see that as a backstory to make me feel sorry for her. It's relateable. Genocider Sho was fun for me because, well, I enjoy insane characters because they aren't boring.
DR2 characters, on the other hand... Hinata seemed more boring to me because he was so polite. Komaeda... ... ...annoying. Okay, I may have said I like insane characters, but Komaeda seems like the insane character done badly. I mean, Genocider was entertaining and funny due to her insanity, but she was still one to take seriously cause she could have killed at the drop of a hat - although since I'm not a dude, I'm not really in any danger... But Komaeda was just deemed irreversably "unsaveable" for me pretty fast. His insanity isn't fun and I can't take him seriously, so he's just plain annoying. (He's like Zant compared to Genocider's Ghirahim. The latter was entertaining despite doing silly things, where as the former just lost all possibility after doing something silly)
The rest are not very memorable to me. I may remember Akane, but that's, you know, cause I like big boobs.
The music in DR was already borderline annoying for me at times. DR2's swang more to the forgettable side. Although that one track, um, Box 16 (?) just sounded like a cacophany to me. The improved mechanics don't seem all that improved to me, more like they were polished up. The new feature of agreeing during trials seems kind of silly to me... And finally, the plot twists are... meh. Aside from the first mentioned point of predictability, it's also not a very good twist...
Whoa this post became longer than I originally intended...
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Ash wrote:
Do so many people really dislike SDR2 that much? Sure, I have some minor gripes, but overall, I thought it worked great as a meta-mirror-image of the first game (which also improved on it gameplay and storywise in little ways). In fact, I know of no other game that even tries to interact with other games in the same series at this meta-level. And regarding the whole atmosphere of the DR series, including endings, it has always been very post-modern, and while I'm definitely not a big fan of post-modernism, I think it definitely works for this series.
I think most people actually think SDR2 is in general better than DR (which I do too, even though I hate the franchise in general). But I also think the popular opinion is that the ending for SDR2 is absolutely terrible.
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But I also think the popular opinion is that the ending for SDR2 is absolutely terrible.
Well given that the ending of DR was... meh, at best, they can't really do much better in DR2. I mean, given the state of the world and all, I'm kinda wondering, how can they end this entire franchise? Unless maybe they go the route of Daichi's Liberator Ending in Devil Survivor 2 - which is somewhat considered a Bad Ending.
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CatMuto wrote:
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But I also think the popular opinion is that the ending for SDR2 is absolutely terrible.
Well given that the ending of DR was... meh, at best, they can't really do much better in DR2. I mean, given the state of the world and all, I'm kinda wondering, how can they end this entire franchise? Unless maybe they go the route of Daichi's Liberator Ending in Devil Survivor 2 - which is somewhat considered a Bad Ending.
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Spoiler: tbh I don't think this really needs to be tagged but
(I also haven't played either DeSu)
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CatMuto wrote:
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But I also think the popular opinion is that the ending for SDR2 is absolutely terrible.
Well given that the ending of DR was... meh, at best, they can't really do much better in DR2. I mean, given the state of the world and all, I'm kinda wondering, how can they end this entire franchise? Unless maybe they go the route of Daichi's Liberator Ending in Devil Survivor 2 - which is somewhat considered a Bad Ending.
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I don't think it was terrible, per se. But I enjoyed the game over all, and my favorite character is in this game.
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Ey at least it's not like the crap FF puts out
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Ey at least it's not like the crap FF puts out
Take that back. Not every FF is a sequel to another and several of the sequels never ended on cliffhangers. Not even the first game's ended on cliffhangers or set up a sequel.
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FF has the same typical plot over and over again. It's game mechanics are rehashed over and over again like a typical RPG but claim each game is unique necaise it added small little things to the game play.
Learn to take criticism if your gonna critique things.
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Ash wrote:
Do so many people really dislike SDR2 that much? Sure, I have some minor gripes, but overall, I thought it worked great as a meta-mirror-image of the first game (which also improved on it gameplay and storywise in little ways). In fact, I know of no other game that even tries to interact with other games in the same series at this meta-level. And regarding the whole atmosphere of the DR series, including endings, it has always been very post-modern, and while I'm definitely not a big fan of post-modernism, I think it definitely works for this series.
It's not the post-modernism that bothered me, it's the fact that the game was so in-your-face about it. Compare it to another post-modern video game: Metal Gear Solid 2. Although the game deconstructed the power fantasy and role of the protagonist, it still managed to be a comprehensible narrative that would fit in the Metal Gear universe. In SDR2, the game felt like it was using post-modernism just for the sake of post-modernism. All that weird stuff that happened? "Because it's a game. Now let's do even weirder stuff while using every cliche we can cram in! Because it's a game!" Ugh, I just felt like punching something throughout the entire last trial.
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FF has the same typical plot over and over again. It's game mechanics are rehashed over and over again like a typical RPG but claim each game is unique necaise it added small little things to the game play.
Have you played a FF game at all?
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True, Final Fantasy does recycle many aspects. Some of it for familiarity's sakes (like spell naming conventions), some of it due to success (the ATB system), some of it due to pure fanservice (reappearance of franchise staples such as Chocobos, Cactuars, Bombs, Tonberries, et cetera). But they do change quite a lot: just look at the MP system's changes, mechanics changes (materia system of FFVII, esper system of FFVI, the sphere grid of FFX, and basically any spin-off game), and even storyline conventions. Back in the day, FFVII was revolutionary in many of its concepts which by now are cliche' and old hat.
Though this is quite off-topic, no?
I feel that SDR2's problems stem from how rushed it seems. In fact, if you check developer comments, you'll find that many aspects of the story were changed last-minute at some points to suit a particular narrative. For instance,
Spoiler: DR and SDR2 Spoilers
There is a ton of pressure when making a sequel, especially if there are deadlines involved (just look at KOTOR II: The Sith Lords without the Sith Lords Restored Content mod and the M4-78 planet mod). In many ways, SDR2 is clearly an improvement: the mechanics change and evolve, and make an overall improvement. The narrative maintains its course in many ways, not really being overall better or worse. The murders in SDR2 start off with a higher difficulty curve than the first game, and continue being more difficult with just as compelling (usually, looking at YOU case one killers) guilty parties. There's more to do in the game, but that makes one wonder if that energy couldn't have been further placed in the main game as opposed to the several side stories and games.
All in all, I don't think SDR2 is bad in any sense of the imagination without having held it in my hands to how it handles (I've read the translation LP's back when I thought there wasn't going to be an official translation in the states for either game, let alone both). It isn't necessarily better, which is a damned shame, but I wouldn't call it "worse" either. All in all, SDR2 ramps up my expectations, and ultimately fulfills them- but only just. At least it wasn't like Corpse Party: Book of Shadows which delivers on its PSN description in exact words only.
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Why would I take back something that's completely true xD
FF has the same typical plot over and over again. It's game mechanics are rehashed over and over again like a typical RPG but claim each game is unique necaise it added small little things to the game play.
Learn to take criticism if your gonna critique things.
FF has the same typical plot over and over again. It's game mechanics are rehashed over and over again like a typical RPG but claim each game is unique necaise it added small little things to the game play.
Learn to take criticism if your gonna critique things.
I only used a walkthrough/guide when I needed it. Like in, for example, AA's Case 3-4. There was one time I needed a guide there and that was because of that stupid photo's quality, making it difficult for me realize it was goddamn raining at the time it was taken. The "rain" looked like typical grain you find on black and white pictures.
Also, if you wanna say "same plot over and over" well GUESS WHAT DR2!! Or ANY game really. Hey, it's a Dating Sim! Definitely will go and try to date as many as possible and gain a love interest. Just like every other Dating Sim game. A Zelda game. I'm sure I'll save the world, like every Zelda game.
Fact is, your stupid argument of "same thing over and over" can be put onto EVERY. DAMN. GAME. IN EXISTENCE.
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SDR2 is a fun and great game but even I can admit it has it's flaws. For example for PTA they made it much harder to get the tempo right and pressing the button at the right moment.
The story is great with good humor and references but I felt the character developments I would have loved to see more
Spoiler: Peko
Rain? In DR2 it never rains so where the hell did you get that miss liar xD
Also yes I know that logic can be used in any game but it works even better when FF puts out 12+ of the same crisp every time xD Also you getting upset about me talking about FF proves you can't take criticism xD
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Walter White wrote:
It's understandable that at first FF was a great game because in the beginning it was new and original but 12+ later it's still Nein called a great game even though it's a rehash of the same game over and over again then that's what I find stupid.
You're not answering the question.
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