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Apparently Monokuma is a wrestler for WWE xD

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Stop turning my posts around, Danny. :ron: Besides, lots of trailers end up advertising the game in a way that ultimately is at least somewhat different from the actual content. Check here.

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Stop turning my posts around, Danny. :ron: Besides, lots of trailers end up advertising the game in a way that ultimately is at least somewhat different from the actual content. Check here.

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Im only trying to fix them xP and plus when has a danganronpa trailer shown gameplay that is different compared to the actual content? Can you prove it? :notes:
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Stop turning my posts around, Danny. :ron: Besides, lots of trailers end up advertising the game in a way that ultimately is at least somewhat different from the actual content. Check here.

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Im only trying to fix them xP and plus when has a danganronpa trailer shown gameplay that is different compared to the actual content? Can you prove it? :notes:
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Stop turning my posts around, Danny. :ron: Besides, lots of trailers end up advertising the game in a way that ultimately is at least somewhat different from the actual content. Check here.

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Im only trying to fix them xP and plus when has a danganronpa trailer shown gameplay that is different compared to the actual content? Can you prove it? :notes:


It's a goddamn common sense GENERAL rule to not trust trailers! :tigre:

Did I specifically SAY Danganronpa trailer are misinterprative? No! I said that trailers in general should not be trusted, because marketing doesn't know anything about the game, they just have to advertise it! Fucking hell, Danny, some of your posts sound like you're TRYING to piss me off.

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CatMuto wrote:
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Stop turning my posts around, Danny. :ron: Besides, lots of trailers end up advertising the game in a way that ultimately is at least somewhat different from the actual content. Check here.

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Im only trying to fix them xP and plus when has a danganronpa trailer shown gameplay that is different compared to the actual content? Can you prove it? :notes:


It's a goddamn common sense GENERAL rule to not trust trailers! :tigre:

Did I specifically SAY Danganronpa trailer are misinterprative? No! I said that trailers in general should not be trusted, because marketing doesn't know anything about the game, they just have to advertise it! Fucking hell, Danny, some of your posts sound like you're TRYING to piss me off.

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Your the one saying to not trust trailers and in this instance your talking about the DR:AE trailer so Im simply asking you to prove that the trailer isn't to be trusted :yogi:
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Again, NOTHING in my original post said don't specifically trust THIS trailer I said NEVER trust a trailer. That is a general statement. Read comprehension, Danny. It's a thing!

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Again, NOTHING in my original post said don't specifically trust THIS trailer I said NEVER trust a trailer. That is a general statement. Read comprehension, Danny. It's a thing!

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The discussion at that time was because of me telling doctor about the trailer I had posted and then you came in and not to trust trailers so you were still talking about the the DR trailer
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Different gameplay style than DR1 and DR2. I'm not so in love with the DR universe that I'll buy any game with the DR name. Like I said, I'll have to see if the gameplay style appeals to me.


I don't know about the gameplay, but at least BP seemed to like it overall after watching an LP of the JP version.
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Trailers are rarely a good way to see what gameplay is like due to the way they're cut. An LP, or perhaps a demo would be a better option. Based on the trailer, I'm on the fence.

At any rate, I have yet to get DanganRonpa 2, so this one will have to wait until afterwards.
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Trailers are rarely a good way to see what gameplay is like due to the way they're cut. An LP, or perhaps a demo would be a better option. Based on the trailer, I'm on the fence.

At any rate, I have yet to get DanganRonpa 2, so this one will have to wait until afterwards.


One thing you gotta be careful about a LP is the fact that it can contain spoilers and as for a Demo I don't think I ever did see a Danganronpa demo that was available to download.

How come you haven't played DR2 yet?
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Trailers are rarely a good way to see what gameplay is like due to the way they're cut. An LP, or perhaps a demo would be a better option. Based on the trailer, I'm on the fence.

At any rate, I have yet to get DanganRonpa 2, so this one will have to wait until afterwards.


I hear it spoils DR2 big time, so good choice.
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Trailers are rarely a good way to see what gameplay is like due to the way they're cut. An LP, or perhaps a demo would be a better option. Based on the trailer, I'm on the fence.


Trailers are not good to base a game on because it's marketed in a way to make it look exciting and epic, when it really could be less of that originally. They just polish it for the ads. Unfortunately, reviews are also not a good way to go because the review is always based on someone's personal opinion and how they interpreted things in the game, even leading to saying that something was more important than it originally was. (I realized this problem when I got Skyward Sword after watching KWing's review of it. I'm not saying Skyward is a bad game, it's just that one thing KWing mentioned is that the player will be "going to previous places and unlock new areas with new items" which is technically correct but the indication was different. He also said that the romance between Zelda and Link is a well-done one that is the focal point of the game, which I thought it wasn't when I played the game, I thought it was a romance sort of established in the first 40 minutes of introduction and then practically forgotten when I began to play the game)

Now, LPs or Walkthroughs are better because there is no big altercation to any of the footage. It's just the way it is when the player, well, plays the game and there is no voodoo to make something look more epic. They might cut something out, like going back to a place or making a loop for something they missed. Sure there are spoilers, but that's why you overall don't watch the entire LP/Walkthrough to see if you enjoy the game.

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I hear it spoils DR2 big time, so good choice.


There isn't a whole lot in DR2 that CAN be spoiled. :ron:

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Trailers are rarely a good way to see what gameplay is like due to the way they're cut. An LP, or perhaps a demo would be a better option. Based on the trailer, I'm on the fence.

At any rate, I have yet to get DanganRonpa 2, so this one will have to wait until afterwards.


One thing you gotta be careful about a LP is the fact that it can contain spoilers and as for a Demo I don't think I ever did see a Danganronpa demo that was available to download.

How come you haven't played DR2 yet?

Priorities. I'm currently on leave of absence from work due to medical reasons (which is ironic seeing as how I call myself "The Doctor"), and thus my spending money for games is limited. I only just got a Vita last Christmas along with an Amazon gift card. Danganronpa 2 was full priced at $40 while P4G and Final Fantasy X-X2 HD were $20 a piece. I decided I'd rather get three games I wanted rather than just one, waiting for the other to go on sale or something.

tl;dr, Danganronpa 2 ain't cheap enough yet.
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Dangan Ronpa 3 is in development:

http://www.polygon.com/2015/3/4/8147871/danganronpa-3-development-early-stages

Spoiler: Dangan Ronpa 1 and 2.
Whatever they decide to do with the story, I really hope Junko doesn't come back. Sorry to say it, but I honestly find her tedious and one-note. I'd much prefer a character with some actual depth to be the villain.
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Dangan Ronpa 3 is in development:

http://www.polygon.com/2015/3/4/8147871/danganronpa-3-development-early-stages

Spoiler: Dangan Ronpa 1 and 2.
Whatever they decide to do with the story, I really hope Junko doesn't come back. Sorry to say it, but I honestly find her tedious and one-note. I'd much prefer a character with some actual depth to be the villain.


Wonder if they'll finally bother to answer all questions properly.

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Phoenix Soul wrote:
Dangan Ronpa 3 is in development:

http://www.polygon.com/2015/3/4/8147871/danganronpa-3-development-early-stages

Spoiler: Dangan Ronpa 1 and 2.
Whatever they decide to do with the story, I really hope Junko doesn't come back. Sorry to say it, but I honestly find her tedious and one-note. I'd much prefer a character with some actual depth to be the villain.


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Absolutely yes. Bringing her back from the dead in DR2 (though not literally) nearly went too far and I really don't want to see her again. Especially when her character wasn't really any different. This is certainly a criticism of DR2 that I'll stand behind.

It would have been a bit more interesting if the villain ended up being one of those affected by Junko. At least it would have been someone different.
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Phoenix Soul wrote:
Dangan Ronpa 3 is in development:

http://www.polygon.com/2015/3/4/8147871/danganronpa-3-development-early-stages

Spoiler: Dangan Ronpa 1 and 2.
Whatever they decide to do with the story, I really hope Junko doesn't come back. Sorry to say it, but I honestly find her tedious and one-note. I'd much prefer a character with some actual depth to be the villain.


Spoiler: DR:AR
They most likely wont have Junko back but instead they will have Junko's Successor which I believe is Monaca Towa based on the ending to DR:AE.
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Nagito Komaeda wrote:
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Dangan Ronpa 3 is in development:

http://www.polygon.com/2015/3/4/8147871/danganronpa-3-development-early-stages

Spoiler: Dangan Ronpa 1 and 2.
Whatever they decide to do with the story, I really hope Junko doesn't come back. Sorry to say it, but I honestly find her tedious and one-note. I'd much prefer a character with some actual depth to be the villain.


Spoiler: DR:AR
They most likely wont have Junko back but instead they will have Junko's Successor which I believe is Monaca Towa based on the ending to DR:AE.


As long as that character is completely different from the Mastermind, it'll hopefully be an improvement.
Because the Mastermind was not that interesting of a character...

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As long as that character is completely different from the Mastermind, it'll hopefully be an improvement.
Because the Mastermind was not that interesting of a character...

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I'm not exactly sure who you mean by "Mastermind" :ron:

Spoiler: DR1+2
Top priority is that this time, I want it to at least be one of the students. After that, let's not make it Junko again. I'd like it to be a completely new character, but I'd rather have the villain of DRAE over Junko.

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Spoiler: DR3 villain idea
Expanding on BP's thought that it be one of the students, what if the student mastermind was somehow clever enough to nearly perfectly frame the other students for murder, and you spend half the game wrongfully sentencing innocent students to death for crimes they didn't commit? It would be kind of dark, but it could be a pretty interesting twist.

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As long as that character is completely different from the Mastermind, it'll hopefully be an improvement.
Because the Mastermind was not that interesting of a character...

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I'm not exactly sure who you mean by "Mastermind" :ron:

Spoiler: DR1+2
Top priority is that this time, I want it to at least be one of the students. After that, let's not make it Junko again. I'd like it to be a completely new character, but I'd rather have the villain of DRAE over Junko.


Spoiler: DR 1+2
I mean Junko. I say Mastermind or Big Bad since she is sort of the closest thing the game has as a villain.


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Expanding on BP's thought that it be one of the students, what if the student mastermind was somehow clever enough to nearly perfectly frame the other students for murder, and you spend half the game wrongfully sentencing innocent students to death for crimes they didn't commit? It would be kind of dark, but it could be a pretty interesting twist.


I dunno, I doubt they'd do that. Especially if they go the whole Despair Game and Murdering thing again. After all, picking someone who is innocent gets everyone but the actual killer sentenced to death, so you'd only get one chance of doing this.

This may sound weird, but I want NAEGI to be the villain, if it's another sequel with connection and all. Somehow his attempts at making the world better and HOPE would repeatedly fail and it would just break him. And preferably not be a big revelation that he's possesed by anything... it's unlikely to happen, but it'd be nice.
Make him seem more interesting and realistic. A guy who tries to be positive at the worst of times, but ultimately hits his limit and can't do it anymore.

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TheDoctor wrote:
Spoiler: DR3 villain idea
Expanding on BP's thought that it be one of the students, what if the student mastermind was somehow clever enough to nearly perfectly frame the other students for murder, and you spend half the game wrongfully sentencing innocent students to death for crimes they didn't commit? It would be kind of dark, but it could be a pretty interesting twist.


Spoiler: DR3 villian theory and DR:AE spoiler
My money is on Monaca Towa being the next mastermind. A big hint to it is that at the end of the game in DR:AE where there is a CG available at the which shows Monaca, dressed up as Junko, working on a computer or laptop. It is most likely that she is taking The Servant's advice and is becoming the second Junko Enoshima herself.
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Spoiler: DR3 villain idea
Expanding on BP's thought that it be one of the students, what if the student mastermind was somehow clever enough to nearly perfectly frame the other students for murder, and you spend half the game wrongfully sentencing innocent students to death for crimes they didn't commit? It would be kind of dark, but it could be a pretty interesting twist.


Spoiler: DR3 villian theory and DR:AE spoiler
My money is on Monaca Towa being the next mastermind. A big hint to it is that at the end of the game in DR:AE where there is a CG available at the which shows Monaca, dressed up as Junko, working on a computer or laptop. It is most likely that she is taking The Servant's advice and is becoming the second Junko Enoshima herself.


Oh fucking hell no, please not. We don't need someone trying to pull the Next-L route and end up being just as disappointing... :ron:

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Spoiler: DR3 villain idea
Expanding on BP's thought that it be one of the students, what if the student mastermind was somehow clever enough to nearly perfectly frame the other students for murder, and you spend half the game wrongfully sentencing innocent students to death for crimes they didn't commit? It would be kind of dark, but it could be a pretty interesting twist.


Spoiler: DR3 villian theory and DR:AE spoiler
My money is on Monaca Towa being the next mastermind. A big hint to it is that at the end of the game in DR:AE where there is a CG available at the which shows Monaca, dressed up as Junko, working on a computer or laptop. It is most likely that she is taking The Servant's advice and is becoming the second Junko Enoshima herself.


Oh fucking hell no, please not. We don't need someone trying to pull the Next-L route and end up being just as disappointing... :ron:

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Well another route can also be this

Spoiler: DR:AE
Monaca can also create another Junko Enoshima II like she tried to do with Naegi's sister.
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Spoiler: DR:AE
Monaca can also create another Junko Enoshima II like she tried to do with Naegi's sister.

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So instead of having the same villain again, we now have villains trying to recreate the same villain? There's more to this, right? Right?

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Spoiler: DR:AE
Monaca can also create another Junko Enoshima II like she tried to do with Naegi's sister.

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So instead of having the same villain again, we now have villains trying to recreate the same villain? There's more to this, right? Right?


Spoiler: DR:AE
Who knows since the DR3 is still in its earliest development. I feel more that Monaca will probably because a self-proclaimed Junko successor or hell maybe a whole new villain all together.
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Expanding on BP's thought that it be one of the students, what if the student mastermind was somehow clever enough to nearly perfectly frame the other students for murder, and you spend half the game wrongfully sentencing innocent students to death for crimes they didn't commit? It would be kind of dark, but it could be a pretty interesting twist.


I dunno, I doubt they'd do that. Especially if they go the whole Despair Game and Murdering thing again. After all, picking someone who is innocent gets everyone but the actual killer sentenced to death, so you'd only get one chance of doing this.

Not necessarily. Remember the ending of case 5 in DR1?
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Spoiler: DR3 villain idea
Expanding on BP's thought that it be one of the students, what if the student mastermind was somehow clever enough to nearly perfectly frame the other students for murder, and you spend half the game wrongfully sentencing innocent students to death for crimes they didn't commit? It would be kind of dark, but it could be a pretty interesting twist.


I dunno, I doubt they'd do that. Especially if they go the whole Despair Game and Murdering thing again. After all, picking someone who is innocent gets everyone but the actual killer sentenced to death, so you'd only get one chance of doing this.

Not necessarily. Remember the ending of case 5 in DR1?

Spoiler:
Well, I know the rules state that if the villain is caught, he is punished, but if he gets away with it, everyone else gets punished. But then, the mastermind of DR3 could have "designated villains" who, despite having done nothing wrong, end up taking the heat if the majority votes against them. Though, if anybody else gets voted guilty during that trial, everyone gets punished except the "true villain."

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Who knows since the DR3 is still in its earliest development. I feel more that Monaca will probably because a self-proclaimed Junko successor or hell maybe a whole new villain all together.


I have flashbacks to Death Note... replace Mastermind with "L" and you get it.
New Opponent: I have trained myself for years... and finally, I am taking the place of the Mastermind!
Hero: You are not as intelligent as the Mastermind, nor as entertaining, you don't have a proper personality behind yourself and you only show your face NOW, after doing barely anything?
New Opponent: I am the Mastermind!
Hero: You're a disappointing loony...
Okay that's not how it actually went down in Death Note, but it felt like it. (And should have)

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Not necessarily. Remember the ending of case 5 in DR1?


That was a fucking cop-out and such a poor excuse to bring about the finale...

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CatMuto wrote:
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Spoiler: DR:AE
Who knows since the DR3 is still in its earliest development. I feel more that Monaca will probably because a self-proclaimed Junko successor or hell maybe a whole new villain all together.


I have flashbacks to Death Note... replace Mastermind with "L" and you get it.
New Opponent: I have trained myself for years... and finally, I am taking the place of the Mastermind!
Hero: You are not as intelligent as the Mastermind, nor as entertaining, you don't have a proper personality behind yourself and you only show your face NOW, after doing barely anything?
New Opponent: I am the Mastermind!
Hero: You're a disappointing loony...
Okay that's not how it actually went down in Death Note, but it felt like it. (And should have)



Wait are you describing the scenes between L and Kira?
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Nearly correct, but not quite.
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Found this on google

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Wait are you describing the scenes between L and Kira?


I was more taking a nasty jab at Near and Mello, who are the second opponents for Kira later on. They're replacements and they FEEL like bad replacements.

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Just finished DR2 today. The story/mystery content was a large improvement over DR1, although I prefer most of the DR1 characters over the DR2 cast (except for Fuyuhiko, who was extremely well written, and Gundham, who was just too crazy awesome for words).
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Fuyuhiko, who was extremely well written

What?
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For a Danganronpa character, he was. I just think he was the most developed. Most DR characters don't evolve much past their initial personality when you first meet them.

Spoiler: DR2
Togami would have counted as of DR2, were it not for him being an imposter. The "I won't allow any of you to become a victim" personality is a big change from the old Togami who treated the whole thing as a game, and would have let everyone else die at the drop of a hat if it would have gotten him out of there alive.

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I'm not sure if it's official or not but apparently DR:AE has a official release date and its Sept 1st

Sourse: http://www.gamestop.com/ps-vita/games/d ... rls/120688
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So, evidently, they're dubbing Danganronpa: The Animation into English, but with the exception of Bryce Papenbrook reprising his role as Naegi, everyone else has someone new providing their voices.

Here's the cast list announcement...
http://www.funimation.com/blog/2015/04/04/danganronpa-the-animation-english-cast-announcement/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Danganronpa&utm_source=Twitter&utm_content=Danganronpa_Cast&utm_nooverride=1

I'm getting a little excited about this now, partly due to Caitlin Glass voicing Kyouko. And since it also lacks Brian Beacock as Monokuma, I definitely want to see how everything sounds now (his voice was the only reason I switched from English voices to Japanese on my DR2 playthrough).
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