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Wasn't it established that she never wrote a suicide note?
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She probably did write one (I recall it being mentioned that she had ink on her fingers or something) but Juan hid it and then wrote a fake one. The contents of the real one are unknown. If Juan had to fake it, it's possible it wasn't damning at all to Matt and Juan just blamed him
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The fact THAT she knows the deceased, and her obvious co-dependency on her, automatically means that she is HEAVILY biased on how she saw the entire relationship, whether when it was going on or after she was dumped. So even if Adrian suddenly said that Matt actually treated her well, I still wouldn't buy it cause she sees Celeste on a goddamn fucking golden pedestal through rose tinted glasses.
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Bias or no, Adrian can still say with more certainty that Matt was using Celeste, than you can say that Celeste was allowing herself to be used by Matt.
If they don't at least attempt to get out of it, then yes.
I'm not saying it's their fault for being abused, I'm saying that if they willingly remain in it (without attempting to break free) then they are at fault for allowing the abuse to continue.C-A
In other words, you are contradicting your first statement about Celeste. Clearly, Celeste did not "allow herself" to be used, because she did in fact leave the relationship.
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She probably did write one (I recall it being mentioned that she had ink on her fingers or something) but Juan hid it and then wrote a fake one. The contents of the real one are unknown. If Juan had to fake it, it's possible it wasn't damning at all to Matt and Juan just blamed him
It's possible Juan planted the ink as well as the note.
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I could be wrong, it's been months since I LPed the case, but wasn't it Celeste who broke up?
I honestly am not sure.
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PS: It's a fucking fictional character, I can say whatever I want about her.
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That's not much of an argument. Anyone can say anything about any fictional character, but that doesn't make it true.
To give an extreme example: I could say Pearl is actually a 57-year-old balding man, but that doesn't mean I am right. If we want to make theories about the fictional characters, you'll do well to use in-universe evidence or hints to support yourself, without relying on "I can say whatever I want".
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That's not much of an argument. Anyone can say anything about any fictional character, but that doesn't make it true.
To give an extreme example: I could say Pearl is actually a 57-year-old balding man, but that doesn't mean I am right. If we want to make theories about the fictional characters, you'll do well to use in-universe evidence or hints to support yourself, without relying on "I can say whatever I want".
I can say whatever I want, nothing says I have to support my claim. If I feel Celeste was a stupid woman for letting herself be used by a guy who OBVIOUSLY has some issues (his scars were not a surprise, nor was his personality - too fake, you immediately think there's more to it), I can. I don't need evidence for that, it's just my opinion of the character.
If I were to say that Pearl is 57 years old, people would know that this is just something I'm saying, not that I particularly believe it myself. If I were to say that I think Pearl needs a good slap back whenever she slaps Phoenix for "flirting with other women" (read: just politely LOOKING the other in the eyes while talking), that'd be a different matter.
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If it's my opinion on her, then yes.
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Gregory... Tomorrow, I'm heading towards that fateful place with your son. To find out the truth of 18 years ago...
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First, letting other people blackmail you is somehow like supporting blackmail. (Though I wish I could word that better in English.)
More important, the worst thing that could have happened to Maya wouldn't have been being killed by DeKiller. It would have been staying alive and watching how an innocent person who obviously wants to survive has to die and a criminal bastard is admitted just because of her. Maya was ready to sacrifice herself for justice. Staying alive because if her friend's weakness would have been worst for her, no matter what other people say.
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I suppose you mean this in a similar way to how they say "We don't negotiate with terrorists" not giving in to their claims so as to not promote and entice more terrorism.
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I chose Guilty. I had no idea what would happen (no internet for spoilers when I was playing through the trilogy), but I thought it would be best to just have faith that Maya would be ok and do whatever I could to that EVIL guy (I would be more creative when describing him, but I can't remember how liberal this forum is with swears) would get what's coming to him.
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When you choose guilty he says "Maya, I'm sorry...." but I don't know what or if he says anything to himself at all.
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When you choose guilty he says "Maya, I'm sorry...." but I don't know what or if he says anything to himself at all.
He says that no matter what you pick, but it has different connotations depending on what you pick. Either he's apologizing for being unable to save Maya, or he's apologizing for being unable to uphold the law.
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Though after revealing the truth to
, I choose to go with...Because, now that Maya is safe, I can choose with what I truly believe in, and of course, who deserves a conviction more than
? Though sometimes, I do say Not Guilty, not out of a belief in it, but because of the bit where Nick says, "Congratulations, Mr. Engarde, I'm letting you free, but just remember that one betrayed hitman knows what you did." since it really just twists the knife one last bit.
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When you choose guilty he says "Maya, I'm sorry...." but I don't know what or if he says anything to himself at all.
He says that no matter what you pick, but it has different connotations depending on what you pick. Either he's apologizing for being unable to save Maya, or he's apologizing for being unable to uphold the law.
Shame that there wasn't a "run" option, like there is with Pokémon...
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Not guilty, but... It doesn't change a thing, you would be getting an innocent person convicted... But you would b saving an innocent person and letting someone get loose...
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Now that's a bit of a nonchalant attitude... =P
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Now that's a bit of a nonchalant attitude... =P
I don't see what's wrong. Maya may die,but like Mia,she'll still live on. This is the best case scenario to me.
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Now that's a bit of a nonchalant attitude... =P
I don't see what's wrong. Maya may die,but like Mia,she'll still live on. This is the best case scenario to me.
Getting channeled is hardly what I would call "live on". Also, what do you think Pearl would think she'd have to channel her dead cousin every time you just wanna see Maya? It's also disrespectful to the dead and the medium to just nonchalantly want the medium to channel the dead like that. They're not tools for your own desires
It may sound like I'm being too serious about this, but it's to counter the nonchalance...
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I don't see what's wrong. Maya may die,but like Mia,she'll still live on. This is the best case scenario to me.
Getting channeled is hardly what I would call "live on". Also, what do you think Pearl would think she'd have to channel her dead cousin every time you just wanna see Maya? It's also disrespectful to the dead and the medium to just nonchalantly want the medium to channel the dead like that. They're not tools for your own desires
It may sound like I'm being too serious about this, but it's to counter the nonchalance...
"Even when the body dies,
the spirit, the ego, it lives
on... forever."
In my opinion, I think the legacy is what matters the most. Mia's legacy was one of most important things Phoenix valued. So in a way, the spirits are still alive, but within the minds of others.
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