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In such a case, I'd be more wondering why Edgeworth isn't adopting Trucy.
Edgeworth adopts Trucy then dumps her on Phoenix.
Nah, I got nothing.
Well, I would say, it would make sense if Edgey and Phoenix lived together and a social worker saw that there's someone who brings in more than enough money to raise a kid and still have decent income for two adults and Phoenix would be around at home a lot, being a stable authority figure and help for Trucy. But that would mean I am showing my biased opinion - and we can't have that.
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That's what made AJ so depressing. Even if you cleared his name at the end, so what? Everyone he knew and cared about was gone. That's horrible.
I get strangely mad when I see this kind of stuff. Who exactly did he lose? Maya? Edgeworth? Obviously not. Maya sent him a whole stack of Steel Samurai DVDs when he went to the hospital, showing that they still keep in contact and very recently too. Someone on tumblr has proven that Edgeworth had played a role in Phoenix adopting Trucy and implementing the Jury System.
In fact, he gained. He got Trucy, Eldoon, - you can even say Kristoph. He had to be strong for Trucy, and frequenting Eldoon's store helps them to save money in terms of food for other stuff. His relationship with Kristoph is very passive-aggressive, but at the very least Kristoph helped him out in the first case at a minutes' notice. Plus they probably discuss law a lot at the club.
In his three years as an attorney, he had changed and gained the respect of many many people by simply not giving up and believing in them. If they decided to ditch Phoenix because he forged evidence, I don't know what to think of them.
What we see is Phoenix 7 years after his disbarment. 7 years is pretty long. 7 years can be enough for Phoenix to go into depression, snap out of depression, forming a plan to clear his name. The Phoenix that doesn't trust the current law system anymore. Who questions morality. Yes, we got 2-4 but it's different. Forgery is the bane of the courts. And he is no longer a lawyer. He can push the boundaries as far as he wants.
Okay, last point. He seemed pretty glad at the end of AJ, having finally cleared his name and decided to retake the bar exam. Everyone is happy, everyone is alive. He got a Apollo to make fun of. So what he lose? Nothing. He lost his badge and is now going to get it back. He lost Kristoph as a friend but who wants him back.
Call me a AJ fanboy but I really love it. Graphics is amazing, music amazing, best believable assistance, nicest prosecutor - everyone turned into a snarky. Love Sarcastic Phoenix Wright? Here is our newest product : Hobonick - Extra Snarky.
I totally signed up to rebut this.
It's not that Phoenix didn't gain anything, it's that AJ made it seem like none of his friends were around at the time of his disbarment. In the dark days following the Gramarye trial, Phoenix actually says something like "Trucy was my only light during that time." Um, what? The girl you've only known for 2 weeks? I'm not saying she didn't bring him any happiness, but it's so strange to say that after he made such a big deal about all his friends in the original trilogy. It didn't help none of them were even mentioned in the flashback. To me, it felt like a slap in the face.
I'll admit we at least got Eldoon mentioning "Phoenix's assistant," but the line about Maya and the Samurai DVDs was reduced to "this kid."
And... I'm not sure what you mean by this line:
Spoiler:
Unless that "someone on tumblr" was Takumi/Eshiro/X person at Capcom then no, it wasn't "proven." Maybe they built a good case for it, but at least at the time of AJ (when DD did not exist), there was nothing indicating Edgeworth had a hand in any of that.
Keep in mind that while DD did a much better job of showing that Phoenix's friends didn't disappear from his life, AJ was lazy about it.
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I get strangely mad when I see this kind of stuff. Who exactly did he lose? Maya? Edgeworth? Obviously not. Maya sent him a whole stack of Steel Samurai DVDs when he went to the hospital, showing that they still keep in contact and very recently too. Someone on tumblr has proven that Edgeworth had played a role in Phoenix adopting Trucy and implementing the Jury System.
I must have worded my point poorly, because I didn't mean to say Phoenix lost his friends so much as "we" lost these characters because they weren't ever on screen or in conversation. The game seemingly went out of its way to avoid the original trilogy even with simple things like People Park instead of Vitamin Square or transforming Dr. Hotti into Dr. Hickfield. I mean, why bother? These are already established things in this universe.
We knew Maya was still in Phoenix's life and we'd presume Edgeworth was too (as much as I believe Edgeworth helped with the Jurist System there's no actual proof), but neither one gets name dropped or even depicted in the end credits celebrating Phoenix's long-coming vindication. As far as the player sees they just vanish and weren't even there to help him in his time of need.
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Then, starting from the 4th game on, the localization has been a bit more true to the original source. (Then, from the GK games and on, they even kept the same text scrolling speed...) As far as I know, same goes for GS5 -> DD.
I thought they kept the same control codes in the original trilogy too. At least that's what the localization interview claimed.
That's what I heard too. In fact, comparing the text scrolling speed across all the games, it appears to be the same. However, anything with Yamazaki directing the script is doomed to suffer through awkward pauses that don't add much to the dramatic effect and repetitive lines that are more fanciful descriptions of what was already stated previously.
Nah, I'm just exaggerating about that, but that is the impression many people have of playing through the GK games and DD. PLvsAA and DGS do not suffer from the same issues. However, in PLvsAA, upon localizing, the text scrolling speed was once again not altered for the differences between Japanese and English, resulting in more apparent lag even when there actually isn't. Also, that game in general is lag on game systems. Yeesh.
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I haven't yet played DD. But it looks like they just threw everything but Apollo and Trucy's magical panties into the wind...
Most of Apollo's original characterization, too.
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Asursrus wrote:
I haven't yet played DD. But it looks like they just threw everything but Apollo and Trucy's magical panties into the wind...
Most of Apollo's original characterization, too.
Apollo had characterization?
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CatMuto wrote:
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Asursrus wrote:
I haven't yet played DD. But it looks like they just threw everything but Apollo and Trucy's magical panties into the wind...
Most of Apollo's original characterization, too.
Apollo had characterization?
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Did you hear about his super back story in DD?
He had a friend! Who could have guessed that he'd have a friend?
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it wasn't "proven."
Deduced?
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Maya and the Samurai DVDs was reduced to "this kid."
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Keep in mind that while DD did a much better job of showing that Phoenix's friends didn't disappear from his life, AJ was lazy about it.
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AJ ended up rather rushed at that point.
And Takumi had to cut out a lot of stuff.
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Phoenix actually says something like "Trucy was my only light during that time."
What time? The whole 7 years? The first few months? Or maybe... Phoenix was the one pushing everyone away?
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Did you hear about his super back story in DD?
He had a friend! Who could have guessed that he'd have a friend?
He had a friend! Who could have guessed that he'd have a friend?
I was referring to Apollo's characterization in AJ itself. Also, of course Apollo never had friends before. Phoenix is like Usagi was to the other Sailor soldiers: the first friend they ever had~
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Oh wait, he probably knows her from the case files. Still no point in telling him that.
It was unimportant information, there really was no reason to mention Maya by name. If someone asks me about this, I just say 'That was given to me by my grandmother' or 'A friend'. It's not a round-about way of not mentioning a name, it's just an explanation where something came from, after all, without giving more info than necessary.
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Maya and the Samurai DVDs was reduced to "this kid."
Um, what? Exactly where did I say that the problem was with Apollo and Trucy having any knowledge of Phoenix's friends?
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Keep in mind that while DD did a much better job of showing that Phoenix's friends didn't disappear from his life, AJ was lazy about it.
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AJ ended up rather rushed at that point.
And Takumi had to cut out a lot of stuff.
What do you mean, "cut out a lot of stuff"? It doesn't take much to mention one or two lines about Phoenix's friends actually existing during the disbarment.
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Phoenix actually says something like "Trucy was my only light during that time."
What time? The whole 7 years? The first few months? Or maybe... Phoenix was the one pushing everyone away?
The argument is not that Phoenix pushed anybody away. There is no indication of that. The argument is that Phoenix's friends seemed to disappear during one of the worst times of his life, with no explanation. At least this is how AJ made it seem.
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The argument is that Phoenix's friends seemed to disappear during one of the worst times of his life, with no explanation. At least this is how AJ made it seem.
Just because something isn't mentioned, doesn't mean it has to mean anything to begin with. AJ was a rushed, meddled game that was trying to lower costs with its need to be rushed out - and, honestly, it doesn't matter. They don't NEED to mention Maya or Edgey or anyone else. If, as some people say here, it is properly established that there is a strong bond of friendship and trust between these people, then they don't need to mention "Btw, (Maya) came and tried to cook for me, as a way to cheer me up. I think scrubbing down the kitchen walls will be enough to get rid of the evidence... (Edgeworth) chewed me out for presenting evidence I knew nothing about. But I knew he meant well". It's just... it's a given that they likely contacted him.
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You are right, they don't need to be mentioned to exist. But if someone says "only light" then that's explicitly excluding all other persons.
Not really. It comes across as an exaggeration. Like saying, 'this was the only thing that kept me going'. I always felt like such sayings were horrible exaggerations that cannot be taken seriously - unless the one saying it is actually admitting that, if that one thing was gone, they would've committed suicide immediately.
So, to me, him saying Trucy was his 'only light' is just exaggerating and he had other things that were keeping him going. He was reflecting on how he felt at that moment, which was at the immediate aftermath of having been blamed for forging evidence and losing his job and permittence to perform his trained work. He was at his lowest and just not seeing beyond what was immediately in front of him.
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<Phoenix>
‥‥こうして、
魔術師の忘れ形見は‥‥
Sometimes when magicians
vanish, they leave something
behind...
《成歩堂 みぬき》となり、
ぼくの家族になった。
That's how Trucy became
Trucy Wright... my daughter.
正直なところ、最初はとまどう
ばかりだったけど‥‥
To be honest, I was pretty
lost those first few days.
ふり返ってみると、ぼく自身。
ひどくキズついていた時期だった。
Thinking back on it, it was
a pretty dark time in my life.
‥‥にぎやかな彼女のおかげで、
ずいぶん救われたような気がする。
But Trucy... happy, smiling
Trucy... she was my light.
‥‥こうして、
魔術師の忘れ形見は‥‥
Sometimes when magicians
vanish, they leave something
behind...
《成歩堂 みぬき》となり、
ぼくの家族になった。
That's how Trucy became
Trucy Wright... my daughter.
正直なところ、最初はとまどう
ばかりだったけど‥‥
To be honest, I was pretty
lost those first few days.
ふり返ってみると、ぼく自身。
ひどくキズついていた時期だった。
Thinking back on it, it was
a pretty dark time in my life.
‥‥にぎやかな彼女のおかげで、
ずいぶん救われたような気がする。
But Trucy... happy, smiling
Trucy... she was my light.
Nowhere does he suggest that she was his "only" light or that he didn't have anyone else on his side. All he said was that thanks to her, he was saved from the brink of disaster. Like how he always has been, thanks to some gorgeous young lady by his side.
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Guys, I think I'm lost. I'm looking for GS6 discussion, but I seem to have stumbled upon the GS4 discussion
If you've already spread the thinnest layer of butter onto the bread, it doesn't matter how much you still spread it, it won't become more.
We have nothing to discuss, so we discuss other stuff. (Though, I admit, wouldn't it make sense to temporarily lock the thread, if it turned away from GS6's information or theories?)
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basing on how the kingdom of Kurain is heavily influenced on Tibet, we can conclude they are wearing traditional garments and what seems some ype of hat. It will be hard to guess whom this person could be.
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Ha! I dug up the scripts from both versions of GS4 to shame all of you! :p
Nowhere does he suggest that she was his "only" light or that he didn't have anyone else on his side. All he said was that thanks to her, he was saved from the brink of disaster. Like how he always has been, thanks to some gorgeous young lady by his side.
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<Phoenix>
‥‥こうして、
魔術師の忘れ形見は‥‥
Sometimes when magicians
vanish, they leave something
behind...
《成歩堂 みぬき》となり、
ぼくの家族になった。
That's how Trucy became
Trucy Wright... my daughter.
正直なところ、最初はとまどう
ばかりだったけど‥‥
To be honest, I was pretty
lost those first few days.
ふり返ってみると、ぼく自身。
ひどくキズついていた時期だった。
Thinking back on it, it was
a pretty dark time in my life.
‥‥にぎやかな彼女のおかげで、
ずいぶん救われたような気がする。
But Trucy... happy, smiling
Trucy... she was my light.
‥‥こうして、
魔術師の忘れ形見は‥‥
Sometimes when magicians
vanish, they leave something
behind...
《成歩堂 みぬき》となり、
ぼくの家族になった。
That's how Trucy became
Trucy Wright... my daughter.
正直なところ、最初はとまどう
ばかりだったけど‥‥
To be honest, I was pretty
lost those first few days.
ふり返ってみると、ぼく自身。
ひどくキズついていた時期だった。
Thinking back on it, it was
a pretty dark time in my life.
‥‥にぎやかな彼女のおかげで、
ずいぶん救われたような気がする。
But Trucy... happy, smiling
Trucy... she was my light.
Nowhere does he suggest that she was his "only" light or that he didn't have anyone else on his side. All he said was that thanks to her, he was saved from the brink of disaster. Like how he always has been, thanks to some gorgeous young lady by his side.
In my defense, I was paraphrasing
But seriously, when only Trucy is mentioned as Phoenix's light, AND none of his friends get mentioned during that particular time, it comes off as Trucy being his only light. No one is saying that's the case. It's just that AJ made it seem that way.
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Kinda feels likes this but its hard to tell
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I'm no expert on Tibetan apparel, but I've only seen those kinds of hats on women. They also don't wear hoods with those hats, so I'm not sure how well it'd fit the silhouette, which doesn't seem to show much hair.
It would be interesting if the prosecutor were a woman, though.
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In my defense, I was paraphrasing
But seriously, when only Trucy is mentioned as Phoenix's light, AND none of his friends get mentioned during that particular time, it comes off as Trucy being his only light. No one is saying that's the case. It's just that AJ made it seem that way.
But seriously, when only Trucy is mentioned as Phoenix's light, AND none of his friends get mentioned during that particular time, it comes off as Trucy being his only light. No one is saying that's the case. It's just that AJ made it seem that way.
It's still up to interpretation. I also think it makes Nick seem more of a diva when he really didn't need to be, but that's another story...
So do we all agree that at some point after that fateful trial, he was contacted by his old buddies who were concerned for him? It's something DD seems to hint at, so I can't see it otherwise.
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I also think it makes Nick seem more of a diva when he really didn't need to be, but that's another story...
So do we all agree that at some point after he took Trucy in, he was later contacted by his old buddies who were concerned for him? It's something DD seems to hint at, so I can't see it otherwise.
So do we all agree that at some point after he took Trucy in, he was later contacted by his old buddies who were concerned for him? It's something DD seems to hint at, so I can't see it otherwise.
Well, people do say that Nicky acted way OOC in his flashback case and the MASON system sections, so maybe the diva part was part of that. (Though I think he had a right to act like a dick - Klavie was not taking him seriously and disrespecting an older lawyer, while he was a teeny-bopper greenhorn)
Sure?
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Sorry.
I forgot how young Klavier acted, but Phoenix was sure cocky.
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Sorry.
I forgot how young Klavier acted, but Phoenix was sure cocky.
As said, if we have no information to go on, we can only come up with theories so far, before this turns into a total joke. I mean, I could come up with the theory that the Kurain Kingdom is the settlement of aliens and that every Fey family originated not from the 'spirit medium' Ami/Kyoko, but are asexually morphed eggs that were left there to study humanity, before the aliens return and wipe us out.
As mentioned, Phoenix had a right to be cocky.
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Considering Apollo's statements, this person could possibly be someone of really, REALLY high power in the country. Not necessarily a 'skilled' prosecutor, but just someone you wouldn't want mess with or go against without a whole country hating you in the process. Being a defence attorney in this place is bad enough. Opposing a top authority as a defence attorney would be even worse.
Spoiler:
My personal interpretation of Polly's words are:
"Even if this guy I'm going against could totally kick my forehead out of this courtroom and has a whole entire country as his fan base, I still have to win!"
Of course I could be totally wrong and the new prosecutor is actually the Blue Badger.
I'm also gonna assume Phoenix had a building 'accidentally' fall on him and he got an intense rash and that's why Apollo is up there. Totally reasonable.
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Of course I could be totally wrong and the new prosecutor is actually the Blue Badger.
Blue Badger is the only contestant for prosecutor.
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I skimmed through the comments to see any similar theories to the one I'm thinking about who this new prosecutor is, but found none (unless I'm turning blind).
Considering Apollo's statements, this person could possibly be someone of really, REALLY high power in the country. Not necessarily a 'skilled' prosecutor, but just someone you wouldn't want mess with or go against without a whole country hating you in the process. Being a defence attorney in this place is bad enough. Opposing a top authority as a defence attorney would be even worse.
Considering Apollo's statements, this person could possibly be someone of really, REALLY high power in the country. Not necessarily a 'skilled' prosecutor, but just someone you wouldn't want mess with or go against without a whole country hating you in the process. Being a defence attorney in this place is bad enough. Opposing a top authority as a defence attorney would be even worse.
Given that Nick and Princess Leyfa are at complete odds with one another upon introduction, I'd think this is a given. If as I theorized, the prosecutor is a monk of prestige, then I have little doubt he'd be a figure of authority. It'd also explain why Apollo would feel pressed to win that trial, no matter who the defendant may be.
Never mind how Maya is totally going to be a rival to Leyfa as well, so the opponent team will have to be powerful. Otherwise, we'll just have a curb-stomp match.
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I'm also gonna assume Phoenix had a building 'accidentally' fall on him and he got an intense rash and that's why Apollo is up there. Totally reasonable.
Someone was trying to kill Phoenix Wright, you mean? And it led to a building falling on him, but he fortunately survived by crashing through a window just as it was falling and rolled into a corner that created a safe zone from the collapsing debris around him? And eventually an excavating team managed to dig him out completely unharmed aside from a few scratches? Then, surely, those rashes are from a very stubborn mosquito that was trapped in that zone with him?
Yyyep, headcanon'd.
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Yyyep, headcanon'd.
It's not a head canon when it actually happened.
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I know Apollo is now the most popular character among fans now according to that poll, right? They could always give Phoenix enough screen time to be on the box art and in the title but actually have Apollo be the player character through most of the game. Although that might make other fans upset if they really want to play as Phoenix
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I'd love a game where you play as Phoenix for the first case and then play as Apollo for the majority of the game. Hopefully his appearance isn't just like Edgeworth in T&T.
I know Apollo is now the most popular character among fans now according to that poll, right? They could always give Phoenix enough screen time to be on the box art and in the title but actually have Apollo be the player character through most of the game. Although that might make other fans upset if they really want to play as Phoenix
I know Apollo is now the most popular character among fans now according to that poll, right? They could always give Phoenix enough screen time to be on the box art and in the title but actually have Apollo be the player character through most of the game. Although that might make other fans upset if they really want to play as Phoenix
I'd love it too, but Capcom is dumb, remember?
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Oliver wrote:
D.A. McCoy wrote:
I'd love a game where you play as Phoenix for the first case and then play as Apollo for the majority of the game. Hopefully his appearance isn't just like Edgeworth in T&T.
I know Apollo is now the most popular character among fans now according to that poll, right? They could always give Phoenix enough screen time to be on the box art and in the title but actually have Apollo be the player character through most of the game. Although that might make other fans upset if they really want to play as Phoenix
I know Apollo is now the most popular character among fans now according to that poll, right? They could always give Phoenix enough screen time to be on the box art and in the title but actually have Apollo be the player character through most of the game. Although that might make other fans upset if they really want to play as Phoenix
I'd love it too, but Capcom is dumb, remember?
Dreams have been crushed now.
I still think there's a chance Apollo might have more screen time though. He had a decent amount in DD.
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D.A. McCoy wrote:
I know Apollo is now the most popular character among fans now according to that poll, right? They could always give Phoenix enough screen time to be on the box art and in the title but actually have Apollo be the player character through most of the game. Although that might make other fans upset if they really want to play as Phoenix
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I'd love it too, but Capcom is dumb, remember?
That's not how polls work (and Oliver that's a really bad case of speaking before thinking you have there). You have what's known as a spotlight bias; Any character recently given spotlight will instantly be considered more interesting to a portion of an audience. Yes, Internet polls are only a mere portion, Capcom also have fan mail, demographic researchers and their PR team to pull data from, and the researchers usually pull the majority of a company's data.
See, if you made a game about any character, and it's received well, that skews the poll regardless of which character is more marketable. DD is in an interesting position with pursuing the "trinity", and if anything the poll only proved that Apollo was appropriately represented. The irony is that DD was more about Athena.
You also have to concede that the writers also need to actually be interested. You can't force a writer to write anything, that's just bad all-round. They liked the idea they had going for AA6, and that's why it exists. Plain and simple.
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This might seem random, but am I the only one that thinks that the "6" in "GS6" looks like an inverted Magatama?
Shit! I thought Magatamas looked like 9s!
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This might seem random, but am I the only one that thinks that the "6" in "GS6" looks like an inverted Magatama?
I don't mean to be rude, but I think a lot of people noticed this when the logo first was revealed.
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luck wrote:
I think we can expect a similar structure to DD, with Phoenix taking care of the first and final cases and Apollo (and probably Athena) doing the middle ones.
I just hope it doesn't reuse the same formula of chronology as DD and AAI, by having the "beginning of the end" structure. AAI2 and Ghost Trick are sort of in the same tier of stories that go directly from A to B (c'mon, I2-3 is a flashback case and not a prequel-filler-case) but do it in an elegant way where everything ties together in the end, while I feel DD and AAI kind of needlessly make it seem like there's more to it than there really is.
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linkenski wrote:
luck wrote:
I think we can expect a similar structure to DD, with Phoenix taking care of the first and final cases and Apollo (and probably Athena) doing the middle ones.
I just hope it doesn't reuse the same formula of chronology as DD and AAI, by having the "beginning of the end" structure. AAI2 and Ghost Trick are sort of in the same tier of stories that go directly from A to B but do it in an elegant way where everything ties together in the end, while I feel DD and AAI kind of needlessly make it seem like there's more to it than there really is.
This.
Another one to add to that list is PW:AA
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Oliver wrote:
linkenski wrote:
luck wrote:
I think we can expect a similar structure to DD, with Phoenix taking care of the first and final cases and Apollo (and probably Athena) doing the middle ones.
I just hope it doesn't reuse the same formula of chronology as DD and AAI, by having the "beginning of the end" structure. AAI2 and Ghost Trick are sort of in the same tier of stories that go directly from A to B but do it in an elegant way where everything ties together in the end, while I feel DD and AAI kind of needlessly make it seem like there's more to it than there really is.
This.
Another one to add to that list is PW:AA
As much as I really liked DD, I'm in total agreement here. I didn't even really care for JFA's implementation because it felt unnecessary. There's no reason that trial couldn't have been before 2-2 except for Maya appearing for like 1 second.
I didn't feel like AAI was that bad, because while it picks up in the middle it's its own self-contained case. My problem with how DD did it is that 5-1, 5-4, and 5-5 are all basically the same case. If we'd seen something related to 5-5 but was more of its own case then I wouldn't have had any problem with it.
I see the reason why they did it. They needed a strong opening with the return of Phoenix and they couldn't have really done that by doing 5-2 as the first case. But I just think the three cases get kind of confusing and are too strung together, especially if you're like me and ended up taking like 5 months to beat DD (due to finals and other things like that getting in the way). I'm planning on playing it again soon in a shorter timeframe so I'll see if it's still a problem.
I wonder if anyone has ever played DD in chronological order? How's that like?
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linkenski wrote:
luck wrote:
I think we can expect a similar structure to DD, with Phoenix taking care of the first and final cases and Apollo (and probably Athena) doing the middle ones.
I just hope it doesn't reuse the same formula of chronology as DD and AAI, by having the "beginning of the end" structure. AAI2 and Ghost Trick are sort of in the same tier of stories that go directly from A to B (c'mon, I2-3 is a flashback case and not a prequel-filler-case) but do it in an elegant way where everything ties together in the end, while I feel DD and AAI kind of needlessly make it seem like there's more to it than there really is.
I'm not sure how the chronology would be able to jump around, though, since from the very 1st case, it introduces Nick's tour guide. From the screenshots, it's clear that Nick just arrived, since he's taking in the sights.
How Apollo comes to know this mighty prosecutor will probably be explained later. I really doubt Nick would show up after Apollo goes to Kurain, since for what reason would Apollo get to ditch Japanifornia first? It would make more sense if they arrived together, or Apollo goes later to meet Nick when the latter runs into some trouble and needs his help.
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