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Hah. I even called Kaji as Phoenix. I fucking hate Kaji Yuuki in any role where he plays a whiny little bitch (Eren, Haru, Yukine, dickwad from Ao Haru Ride), but he's great in non-bitch roles (Sonic, glasses-kun from Nisekoi, Hilmes). I can see him doing well as Nick.

Disappointed that Takehito Koyasu isn't Edgeworth cause I wanted to hear DIO-sama's objection.
I guess I will be the first to say that I don't like the idea of Kaji as Phoenix. This is mainly because Kaji has a very distinct voice and almost all his roles have the same kind of young, teenage male quality to it. It works for those characters, but I can't see it for Phoenix, who's an adult.

Yuuki Aoi as Maya is an interesting choice, and I can see it working. Yuuki's voice is very versatile so we shall see. Not much opinion on the rest just yet. I wonder why they decided not to go with the drama CD/promo casts. Costs?

Also, nothing on the Judge? He's an important main role too!
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Apparently, there will also be a manga, according to this: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/20 ... ear/.96608
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QBnoYouko wrote:
I wonder why they decided not to go with the drama CD/promo casts. Costs?

A lot of possible reasons, but I doubt people outside the production will ever hear about them. Could be that the voice actors have prior engagements, that the director/producer/some other party within the production committee has a preference for certain voice actors / agencies/ that the game voice actors don't way to work for TV anime (TV anime is basically the lowest paying type of voice acting, with things like games and pachinko videos ranking among the best paying voice acting jobs), anything.

An anime (TV series) is something completely different from a game in terms of product and this time, Capcom is just one of the cogs within the big machine, so who knows where the decision was made for other voice actors.
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Anyone intrigued as to what Edgeworth's VA might sound like someone has found a Demo Reel of Masashi Tamaki's other roles: http://ask-miles-edgeworth.tumblr.com/post/135576096053
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Some more detailed comments as quoted in the 4Gamer write-up of the event:

- Director Watanabe describes the theme of the series as "the surging 'heat' that has been at the heart of Ace Attorney." He wants to portray the burning heart of Phoenix who protects those who stand alone.
- The story is based on episodes from Ace Attorney 1 and Attorney 2, and they are going to portray them in a rich way that makes use of the medium. The production studio has the full support of Capcom, and Watanabe and Takumi have had discussions every night over the hotline to get everything wright. Takumi directly oversees elements like the script (the spoken lines of the characters) and the direction.
- The new serialized manga, based on the anime, is scheduled to start slightly earlier than the TV broadcast of the series.
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Interesting, there's a companion manga series?
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QBnoYouko wrote:
I guess I will be the first to say that I don't like the idea of Kaji as Phoenix. This is mainly because Kaji has a very distinct voice and almost all his roles have the same kind of young, teenage male quality to it. It works for those characters, but I can't see it for Phoenix, who's an adult.


These were my first thoughts as well. Kaiji's voice is very easy to notice and always has the same overall tone to it. Phoenix is 24 years old, not a 16 or 17 year old kid. I'd be really surprised if he can pull off a more "adult" voice. If he does, then I'll be the first to admit that I was wrong.
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Ash wrote:
- The story is based on episodes from Ace Attorney 1 and Attorney 2, and they are going to portray them in a rich way that makes use of the medium. The production studio has the full support of Capcom, and Watanabe and Takumi have had discussions every night over the hotline to get everything wright. Takumi directly oversees elements like the script (the spoken lines of the characters) and the direction.

Welp, I guess even I have to board the hype train eventually. If all goes as well as this seems to suggest, this anime might just be a new gateway to a growing fanbase.

But I just can't get rid of this lingering doubt that the anime isn't going to fair that well. Not that I don't trust Takumi or even Capcom, but often is the case that anime based off of games aren't nearly as engaging as the games themselves... but that's just me.

That said, there's always room for more running gags and wacky expressions in this series. I demand to know more about this new Udgey.
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Looks like it's based on AA Trilogy's redrawings.

Maya's design is awful. It captures none of her features in terms of expression or facial proportions. I guess I can live with it since it's animated but this mockup of Anime Maya was so much more... Maya: Image

She always had a striking look because she's so atypical anime-like with her unfeminine eyes and wide chin. The AA123 collection artwork for her was bad as well. It looked like Kay's sister or something.

Next thing. I don't like what this Watanabe guy says about how he wants to portray Nick. It sounds the same as how he's starting to appear in the latest GS games where he's almost like a hero-figure. He's not pompous about how much he wants to save people in need or wants the law to be just and fair as much as he's about bailing people out of bad situations because he wants to help his friends... and he wants to pay his apartment rent. I didn't think of Nick as someone who was "Saving" Will Powers in 1-3. He was invested because he does care about getting a fair trial for his client but it was actually Maya who had most of the enthusiasm for the people involved and thus making the player/viewer invested in that case. The Maya/Nick chemistry needs to work or this anime will fail IMO.

...but this is where Takumi saves the day (hopefully). If he's keeping a close eye on the script and giving tight supervision on a daily or at least frequent basis, what can go wrong? He's an artist and Ace Attorney is his baby. There's no way he'd let an inauthentic portrayal of his IP get air-time for a much wider audience. In that sense I have some pretty high hopes then. :pearl:
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Ash wrote:
to get everything wright

... :yogi:

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Interestingly, when I saw that, I thought "God, I hope the anime won't look like this".
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If there's one thing that needs to be touched up, it's Edgeworth's character, which had an interesting retcon of sorts when 1-5 was made. Edgeworth was supposedly "by the book" and all that, but 3-4 shows he was just as sneaky as he was rumored to be, no?

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I wonder why they decided not to go with the drama CD/promo casts. Costs?

A lot of possible reasons, but I doubt people outside the production will ever hear about them. Could be that the voice actors have prior engagements, that the director/producer/some other party within the production committee has a preference for certain voice actors / agencies/ that the game voice actors don't way to work for TV anime (TV anime is basically the lowest paying type of voice acting, with things like games and pachinko videos ranking among the best paying voice acting jobs), anything.

An anime (TV series) is something completely different from a game in terms of product and this time, Capcom is just one of the cogs within the big machine, so who knows where the decision was made for other voice actors.


Yeah, although it's not too surprising (since this happens with a lot of adaptations these days), it's still a little disappointing. I thought the actors they used were already perfect. I was also surprised that BONES wasn't the studio they were going for, considering they've already done animated cutscenes for the game.
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Unless they have plans to make a second season covering the third game I wonder if they plan to alter the anime adaptation of Reunion, and Turnabout since that had Morgan Fay preparing for revenge at the end of the episode and the fruits of that plot were only revealed in final case of the third game.
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Next thing. I don't like what this Watanabe guy says about how he wants to portray Nick. It sounds the same as how he's starting to appear in the latest GS games where he's almost like a hero-figure. He's not pompous about how much he wants to save people in need or wants the law to be just and fair as much as he's about bailing people out of bad situations because he wants to help his friends... and he wants to pay his apartment rent. I didn't think of Nick as someone who was "Saving" Will Powers in 1-3.

Watanabe uses the word 'protect', not save (note that I did the same with the translation) and that's precisely what Phoenix' stance has been since his first appearance. I'm not going to dig up the exact quote, but Nick specifically says he want to be there to protect those who stand alone, because that's what happened to him in the classroom trial. That fiery determination has been at the heart of the series since the first game.

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to get everything wright

... :yogi:

It was a psychological experiment, to see if people would notice the word or not amidst all the Phoenix Wright talk :P

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Yeah, although it's not too surprising (since this happens with a lot of adaptations these days), it's still a little disappointing. I thought the actors they used were already perfect. I was also surprised that BONES wasn't the studio they were going for, considering they've already done animated cutscenes for the game.

I never thought BONES was a shoe-in for the job, because there are just so many factors and parties involved with a TV production, from budget to scheduling and also producer preference / relations. Actually getting BONES to do the TV anime would've been more surprising, IMHO (if it's: BONES or all-the-studios-besides-BONES).

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Unless they have plans to make a second season covering the third game I wonder if they plan to alter the anime adaptation of Reunion, and Turnabout since that had Morgan Fay preparing for revenge at the end of the episode and the fruits of that plot were only revealed in final case of the third game.

To be honest, that was more a "Next time, Gadget" scene, than a hard set-up for later developments. Even if they would not do an adaptation of the third game, showing (or not showing) it should't make any difference at all.
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Rubia Ryu the Royal wrote:
But I just can't get rid of this lingering doubt that the anime isn't going to fair that well. Not that I don't trust Takumi or even Capcom, but often is the case that anime based off of games aren't nearly as engaging as the games themselves... but that's just me.

Contents-wise, I had much preferred all original stories, as opposed to an adaptation of the games we've already known for almost 15 years, but I think that it'll do pretty good on TV. Like I mentioned earlier, YTV has already established the concept of an hour of popular mystery anime at that slot (17:30 The Kindaichi Case Files R, 18:00 Detective Conan), so I expect a lot of viewers now, will also stick around when Ace Attorney takes over the 17:30 slot.

Ace Attorney will probably be helped a lot by Detective Conan, now I think about it. Conan has always been a steady program, but April in particular is always the peak in the year for the series, because that's when the annual film is released in theaters, and this year's it's the 20th Anniversary of the anime, so I expect a lot of (viewer-drawing) specials / tie-in programs. So a lot of viewers will probably watch Ace Attorney because it's part of the mystery hour anyway, and it's followed by Conan.
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Except Conan is suffering majorly from decay. Three chapter/one episode (or two episodes) for one case, they figure something out, but never get a step closer to the main goal. This has been going on for almost 1.000 chapters. While I still read the manga, it's only cause 16-page chapters are easier and faster to get through than a 25 minute episode. Torch the Franchise, Aoyama! Torch it!

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I'm not talking about (subjective) views on the content though; I'm speaking in terms of how well the slot (and show) is attracting viewers. Detective Conan always has a high TV rating for an anime; it always gets a spot in the top 10 best viewed anime of the week. Heck, it's basically always within the top 5. The films are also always doing great at the box offices. So it has a large enough public, that should also help Ace Attorney as it'll air just before Conan on the same station. In fact, The Kindaichi Case Files R is now running in AA's slot, and that's also a show that's always in the top 10 of best viewed anime every week.

The top ten best viewed anime every week is dominated by shows broadcast together as an hour-slot: Sazae-san + Chibi Maruko-chan (Fuji), Doraemon + Crayon Shin-chan (Asahi), The Kindaichi Case Files R + Detective Conan (YTV/NTV), Dragon Ball Super + One Piece (Fuji) and Pokemon + Yokai Watch (TV Tokyo). And Ace Attorney is going to take over Kindaichi R's slot, so that is a pretty big spot.
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Ash wrote:
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... :yogi:

It was a psychological experiment, to see if people would notice the word or not amidst all the Phoenix Wright talk :P

Oh, and here I thought it was a habit. I know I do that too. ^^

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Rubia Ryu the Royal wrote:
But I just can't get rid of this lingering doubt that the anime isn't going to fair that well. Not that I don't trust Takumi or even Capcom, but often is the case that anime based off of games aren't nearly as engaging as the games themselves... but that's just me.

Contents-wise, I had much preferred all original stories, as opposed to an adaptation of the games we've already known for almost 15 years, but I think that it'll do pretty good on TV. Like I mentioned earlier, YTV has already established the concept of an hour of popular mystery anime at that slot (17:30 The Kindaichi Case Files R, 18:00 Detective Conan), so I expect a lot of viewers now, will also stick around when Ace Attorney takes over the 17:30 slot.

I understand it's a great spot. Capturing the Kindaichi and Conan fans is pretty much what to expect them to aim for. That said, this is one picky fanbase because it's held for almost 15 years. They'll have to knock the premiere out of the park, and I'm most looking forward to what they may add to it that the games didn't.

Granted, the manga adaptations began to drag on a bit by the third or fourth cases, and the GK manga was pretty mediocre as a sleuthing story, so perhaps it's for the best that they stuck with the canon.

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Ace Attorney will probably be helped a lot by Detective Conan, now I think about it. Conan has always been a steady program, but April in particular is always the peak in the year for the series, because that's when the annual film is released in theaters, and this year's it's the 20th Anniversary of the anime, so I expect a lot of (viewer-drawing) specials / tie-in programs. So a lot of viewers will probably watch Ace Attorney because it's part of the mystery hour anyway, and it's followed by Conan.

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Next thing. I don't like what this Watanabe guy says about how he wants to portray Nick. It sounds the same as how he's starting to appear in the latest GS games where he's almost like a hero-figure. He's not pompous about how much he wants to save people in need or wants the law to be just and fair as much as he's about bailing people out of bad situations because he wants to help his friends... and he wants to pay his apartment rent. I didn't think of Nick as someone who was "Saving" Will Powers in 1-3.

Watanabe uses the word 'protect', not save (note that I did the same with the translation) and that's precisely what Phoenix' stance has been since his first appearance. I'm not going to dig up the exact quote, but Nick specifically says he want to be there to protect those who stand alone, because that's what happened to him in the classroom trial. That fiery determination has been at the heart of the series since the first game.

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to get everything wright

... :yogi:

It was a psychological experiment, to see if people would notice the word or not amidst all the Phoenix Wright talk :P

QBnoYouko wrote:
Yeah, although it's not too surprising (since this happens with a lot of adaptations these days), it's still a little disappointing. I thought the actors they used were already perfect. I was also surprised that BONES wasn't the studio they were going for, considering they've already done animated cutscenes for the game.

I never thought BONES was a shoe-in for the job, because there are just so many factors and parties involved with a TV production, from budget to scheduling and also producer preference / relations. Actually getting BONES to do the TV anime would've been more surprising, IMHO (if it's: BONES or all-the-studios-besides-BONES).

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Unless they have plans to make a second season covering the third game I wonder if they plan to alter the anime adaptation of Reunion, and Turnabout since that had Morgan Fay preparing for revenge at the end of the episode and the fruits of that plot were only revealed in final case of the third game.

To be honest, that was more a "Next time, Gadget" scene, than a hard set-up for later developments. Even if they would not do an adaptation of the third game, showing (or not showing) it should't make any difference at all.


I don't consider that to be a next time gadget scene myself since that line was a running gag and was used by the main villain in most if not all the episodes in the series. I see that as being more similar to Team Rocket blasting off again or I would have gotten away with it if it was not for you meddling kids. I saw Morgan's threat as being played more seriously and the fact that she would be the only villain in the anime to usher an unfulfilled threat if the third game is not adapted puts here actions on a different level than Dr. Claw.
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I don't consider that to be a next time gadget scene myself since that line was a running gag and was used by the main villain in most if not all the episodes in the series. I see that as being more similar to Team Rocket blasting off again or I would have gotten away with it if it was not for you meddling kids. I saw Morgan's threat as being played more seriously and the fact that she would be the only villain in the anime to usher an unfulfilled threat if the third game is not adapted puts here actions on a different level than Dr. Claw.


My example of "Next time, Gadget" might not've been the best, because Morgan's line is not a running gag as you point out, but it is a very unspecific threat, so it is not necessary to give it a follow-up. The scene was never a solid promise that she'd be back. Takumi simply left the door open (understandably, because she has ties with the main cast). But Takumi has also stated several times the games were never planned as a trilogy, and even blogs and interviews from the time of AA2 and AA3 seem to suggest that Takumi poured everything in AA2 first w/o thinking about what he'd do in AA3. If it's just an open door, it doesn't matter whether they'll show it in the anime or not. First-time watchers will simply think 'maybe she'll back some other time'.
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It's probably still too early to measure the quality of the anime with how little we know of the actual product other than what's planned and who are involved. While it may be bad to overhype it, it's certainly better than the throwaway I was expecting since Capcom's Monster Hunter Stories anime would be airing in the same year and that looks to be prioritized by them over this one.

Besides, plotholes like von Karma not having trouble with metal detectors and a professional assassin not knowing crucial details about people involved with his employer would remain as the constant between the games and anime unless those are altered or expanded upon. So, at least there's that.
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Hey, does anyone care to check out the official anime site? I'll just leave it here.
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Very good can't wait to watch it! :will:
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