It's fun to laugh at Gaspen, but hearing that about Winston is just sad.

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Poor, poor Payne. :(

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Jesus. I'll revise my statement to say, "it must suck to be in that family."

But Gaspen at least has learned to choose his battles carefully, even though that basically means none of his battles include an opponent.

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Considering Athena's "Comfortably numb"-reference in DD and the "Space oddity"-reference in SoJ, my headcanon is simply that she likes that kind of music

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I somehow read that as "Winston is dead". Don't have the energy for this. YES, that would definitely be a case of poor Winston.

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Athena has a driver's license. Her car is a bright yellow Audi TT with a 6-speed manual transmission. It also has a trunk large enough to hide a body inside.

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Considering Edgeworth has a dog named Pess, does anybody have an idea for a breed? I think he'd probably want something well-trained like a German Shepherd but who knows

The idea of Pess came from this interview, and there Takumi says it's a big dog.

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Did he ever give a name to the adorable Pom that showed up in that anime episode?

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I can only read this as you talking about yourself.

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Well then, it's official. That Pom is called Rubia.

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Yeah, that's about it.

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This is more a wish than a headcanon at this point, but:

^Heck YES.

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Viola is the frontwoman of a Gothic Metal band. Nobody can deny this.

Iris spent time at Hazakura Temple training for the winter olympics

Larry and Cindy really were a happy couple; she just didn't want to tell Larry about her "sugar daddies" out of shame and/or wanted to take a break, which is why she wasn't returning his calls - she was off to Paris with her "sugar daddy" at the time. In fact, Cindy was the only woman Larry truly loved, even if he's had multiple girlfriends since her death.

We know that Larry was in love with her. Very much so - he was absolutely crushed when he heard about her death. He may have a habit for overreaction, but even when he got dumped by his numerous now-ex-girlfriends he didn't react that badly. And during his trial he compares their relationship to Romeo & Juliet and Mark Anthony & Cleopatra. Obviously, those couples both died. But the reason he cites them as reference goes a bit deeper: Practically the entire time after he's arrested, he keeps saying that he wants to die, that he can't live without Cindy. Again, normal overreaction for the Butz, but he still doesn't react like this when he's dumped later on. Remember that Larry is on trial for murder - possibly premeditated, which would likely get the death sentence in the AA-verse. Now, had Larry been found guilty of premeditated murder and executed, what would he and Cindy have in common with the two previous cited examples of loving-but-dead couples? Larry was willing to die to be with Cindy again.

That's Romeo & Juliet levels of love there.

As for Cindy, she's the only one of Larry's girlfriends who gets some focus. She's also the only one who actually seemed to like Larry - which is proved in-game: she kept the Thinker statue even if it'd be more practical to take a smaller and lighter clock - and didn't treat him like a piece of garbage; nearly all of his later girlfriends dump him unceremoniously, and one of them even got her new boyfriend to beat him up a bit in 3-2.

In a twisted way, the only woman who truly had feelings for Larry was taken away brutally. Had she stayed alive, would Larry be the Casanova Wannabee he is now? Possibly. The Butz is unpredictable. However, from his in-game reactions he seems to have truly loved Cindy more than any of his later girlfriends, none of which really seemed to care about him that much either.

Maybe I'm over analyzing the situation, but it just suddenly came to me yesterday.

Wow, beautiful. That's something I can truly get behind. It's also something I would consider an actual headcanon. Sometimes I see headcanons that more seem like crack theories.

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What's so cracky about a headcanon that Phoenix was named after a bus? It's legit and supported in canon. :p

It's obvious Larry dearly loved her, but I'm not quite convinced she reciprocated. We can't forget she still ditched him for her "sugar daddies". But I'm not saying that she didn't love him at any point. She just believed they weren't suitable to be a couple. She was a model, after all; someone whose status would greatly fluctuate should she marry. And knowing Larry, he proposed.

However, I am convinced that she was the one Larry spent the most time with in a relationship. Well, that might not be a very high standard, but this may be an exception.

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Heh, I know you're being silly (and funny, at that), but I'll take this opportunity to clarify what I mean.
While the term "crack" is a bit strong for some of the things I refer to... As the most recent example (by no means the best or most iconic example), I look at Iris training for the Winter Olympics. To describe that as a "crack theory" goes a bit far, since it's not like it's crazy, chaotic, or what have you. But it doesn't fit into canon at all. There is zero evidence and even clashes with what we know of the character.
In contrast, what Aeliren just said is something that's supported heavily by the canon but has never been explicitly mentioned. It's something that someone can reasonably assume to be true, just as well as deny, depending on their own beliefs and desires.


Good point. And that actually makes it all the sadder. Cindy had to make a choice between love and career, and seemingly chose the latter. Larry, unbeknownst to this, was willing to die for a woman who was in the process of letting him go... Ouch.

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I think Franziska has a small crush on Phoenix

Right after Nahyuta has lost a case and thus broke his necklace he sits down to put the beads back onto the necklace, using it as an opportunity to calm himself down and concentrate on something other than the loss.

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There exists a place where all the characters go in the aftermath of each game. It's called Capcom HQ in Osaka and the main recurring cast all go there to help plan for the next title in the series.

Phoenix was actually the author of his own ancestor's story. He even signed his name on something in DGS.

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Is there also a Capbar at this HQ for Drunkworth?

So Phoenix gave himself a great-grandfather?


This sounds like a promising sporkable fanfiction that I'd like to try and write in my down time. Maybe this weekend.

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There is also a Capbar, and then a Capbar specifically for Drunkworth.

Imagine if Maya ever comes upon his drafts and decides to summon his ol' great grandpappy Ryu.

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I can't help but imagine Drunkworth locking himself into the storage room for the booze and when someone tells him to get out of there he's like "this is the Capbar!!"
"Drunkworth, you know very well the Capbar is right ove..."
"The OTHER Capbar!!"

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Maybe Ryu could introduce Drunkworth to Mikotoba Fruits. Wait,wrong thread

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I have quite a few headcanons for this universe.

Trucy & Ema:
Just as Trucy roped Apollo (and now Athena) into helping her with her magic shows, she’s also decided that Ema is her Scientific Consultant. Whenever Trucy’s planning a trick or trying to create a new one and can’t quite get the scientific part(s) right, she gets Ema to help figure it out. These are mostly behind-the-scenes things, which have necessitated revealing some of her “magician’s secrets” to Ema, over which she has sworn the detective to secrecy with an actual legal contract that, naturally, she got her father to draw up.

Apollo & Khurain:
Apollo specifically said he only intended to stay in Khurain temporarily, until they get the legal system straightened out. Which means that when he leaves, there would need to be at least one other defense attorney there. Now that Amara has been revealed to be alive but can no longer be queen, I think she’s a perfect candidate. Her past as the queen would mean that she’s already familiar with the legal system, so it might not take her very long to study for and pass the bar exam if she was so inclined. She seems to have been forgiven for her past crimes so that probably wouldn’t be a problem, since the people still clearly love and respect her. The court probably has her on call as it is, in case they need another channeling during a trial, since Maya went back home.

Ema's feelings:
Ema secretly believes that people think she’s weird because of her forensics obsession. So when someone like Nahyuta actually compliments those skills, it means a lot more to her than the other person probably realizes.

8-year-old Trucy:
I was reminded upon playing the scene where Phoenix invites her to stay with him that she said her father told her that she could trust Phoenix. Since she has the Gramarye family’s body-language-reading power that Shadi didn’t, I think she used it on Phoenix and that further convinced her that she could fully trust him.

Franziska & Klavier:
They get along surprisingly well. As perfectly as Franziska speaks English, she still finds it nice to have someone else in LA (other than Edgeworth, who learned it while growing up with her) that she can speak to in her native German. Speaking of Franziska...speaking, her English is indeed perfect, but she still has a slight German accent that she insists doesn't exist.

Adrian Andrews:
We know that during the credits of Justice For All, Adrian said Franziska told her that she could consult Franziska about anything. I was thinking about that. I bet during one of those conversations, Franziska offered to let Adrian use her name as a reference when she got out of prison and started to look for a new job, because obviously her new criminal record would hinder that. Edgeworth and Phoenix later made the same offer. So when Lordly Tailor saw a resume from someone who had been in prison but had references from 3 renowned attorneys, they were intrigued and ended up hiring her.

Phoenix & Maya:
-If/when Phoenix and Maya get married, I bet they’ll ask the Judge to preside over the wedding.
-When Athena and Apollo first met Maya, they could immediately tell, thanks to their abilities, that there were mutual romantic feelings between Maya and Phoenix. They both resolved to find out more about their history, since Phoenix hasn’t talked about it much.

Athena:
Athena’s special hearing didn’t actually weaken as she got older. It just seemed that way. She actually gradually learned how to filter out irrelevant noise.

Left-handed characters:
-Typically we can’t use the gesturing/pointing animations of the attorneys and others who stand behind the defense/prosecution benches to tell what their dominant hand is. This is because of artistic license. In other words, the developers probably thought it looked better if they’re always facing the camera when they gesture/point. If we see them from the opposite side, they’ll still point with whatever hand lets them turn to face the “camera”. However, an interesting exception is Franziska. She always holds the base of her whip in her left hand, even though it means she has to turn her back to the “camera” to do it in court. So, the logical conclusion is that she’s left-handed. (The AAI games are an exception, but they're the only ones in which we see her animations from the left side, so the above "artistic license" reasoning applies.)
-As a teenager, Ema had an animation where she took notes, writing right-handed. But as an adult, she has a couple of animations in which she eats her Snackoos with her left hand, even though she wears her watch on her left wrist. (Some lefties do that. I don’t, I’m a lefty but I wear mine on my right wrist.) I think the character designers forgot that teenage Ema was a righty, so they changed her into a lefty. Either that or she’s ambidextrous.
-If you don’t think the character designers bother thinking about making a few characters left-handed, you’d be mistaken. They intentionally put a paintbrush in Larry’s left hand for one of his animations, and also showed Vera Misham to be left-handed.

I really like these two! And the one about Athena's hearing makes a lot of sense.

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Yeah, I support all of these, except maybe the Phoenix & Maya one. And the Apollo & Khura'in one is also one that I like but don't see happening

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I think they specifically said in the game that it was Metis' work that toned down Athena's hearing to a bearable level.

Hmm, I'll soon be replaying that part of the case, so I guess I'll find out for sure then.

Furio Tigre's disguise was actually much more believable than we're led to think. Throughout the entire case we're led to believe that it was a flimsy disguise that should barely have stood up and various people are mocked for having fallen for it. However, the very first person it fools is the player, in the first scene of Recipe for Turnabout where "Phoenix Wright" loses the trial to Winston Payne. We later figure out that it's Furio Tigre (actually, he pretty much says it straight up upon meeting him the first time), but the disguise was good enough to fool the players themselves.

There's the issue of the cardboard badge but apparently, nobody ever checks those things at all, since it has an ID number on the back to prevent identity theft and yet Edgeworth was able to pass off as a defense attorney in 3-5 with little issue. Furthermore, the badges are pretty small and everyone in court is pretty far away. The only person who ever got close enough to spot it would've been Maggey. As long as nobody got too close to examine it, it should have passed. As for the skin colour, he passed it off to Maggey as a tan from a Hawaii business trip and she believed it, but if the intro scene is believed to be accurate he managed to hide it for the trial. Probably some temporary spray of sorts.

Thus, from the distance everyone (prosecutor, witness, judge, audience) would have been, all that they'd see would be good ol'Phoenix Wright, blue suit, spiky hair, tiny golden badge and all, the only thing seeming strange being the accent and language, which though he didn't even try to hide managed to cow everyone into submission, as well as the fact that he was pretty terrible. Why was Godot the only one who didn't fall for it? Tigre wasn't able to intimidate him once during the trial and he knew that wasn't the real Phoenix Wright's behaviour. He didn't call him out on it, but he didn't go through the farce either and wasn't afraid to turn down the case.

Fantina from Pokemon is Franziska's mother.

Mia had a child with Diego but her Aunt Morgan persuaded her to give the child up for adoption. Diego never knew about the child's existence.

This makes a lot of sense, but it's more purely logical than headcanon, at least to me.

Dusky Bridge:
Phoenix and Maya exchange a knowing look whenever anyone says some variation of “I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it”. Maya has almost burst out laughing several times due to Phoenix’s embarrassed reactions to that phrase.

Now a serious headcanon. I don't know if somebody mentioned this before (I didn't read the entire topic), but

I thought that last time I played the case, too.

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