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"Hmm..." Sayako shut her eyes and pressed her finger to her forehead. "Was there anywhere on the upstairs or roof floors someone could hide?"


"I don't think there was," Ryuji replied.
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"What about inside the bell? I know it sounds crazy, but if it's even remotely possible..."
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"Ryuji would have seen them if he was there." Sakura said.
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"Hey, Fake Bear, is the bell large enough to hide inside?"
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"Hey, Fake Bear, is the bell large enough to hide inside?"


"I would have definitely seen someone hiding in the bell," Ryuji said, "I'm confident in that."

Ryuji clutched his chin. "T-The big idea here, is if you guys believe that I'm innocent...w-which I am, the killer did this without intending to frame me. U-Unless they knew of my movements beforehand, which I don't think is possible unless they already knew of the handbook secret at the radio tower."

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"Yup, what he said."
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"So... here's what I've got so far." Sakura said.

"The chloroform was used before Ryuji got to the temple, I think, as it was found broken when he left."
"SiRReN's handbook was found on the roof, and might have been there even before Ryuji got there. Otherwise the killer had to move it after everyone had left, without disturbing SiRReN's b-body... which seems unlikely."
"Ryuji would have heard SiRReN fall, but didn't."
"If the killer and SiRReN were at the temple, how come Ryuji didn't see them? If she was dropped from the upstairs room, they Ryuji would pass by there to and from the roof..."
"He wouldn't have heard the impact inside the elevator, but how would the killer have been up in the upstairs room when he started to descend? Plus the killer then needed to escape, all while Crimson was coming inside and heading for the roof."
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The strain on Sayako's face made it clear she was racking her brain for any sort of answer. "I-is... is there any way to get on the roof? The actual roof, I mean?"
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"Only from the upstairs room... I think." Sakura replied. "Otherwise, maybe they could climb up the outside? But Crimson might have seen them if they tried."
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"There's no reason the killer would need to go any higher than the upstairs room, I think," Jay postulated, the gears in his head turning at a rapid pace, "Actually--wait. I just thought of a way the killer wouldn't even have to be around to cause someone to fall to their death.

Picture this: What is special about the tower? There's something that can move; the hands.

What is the time of death? 12:19.

In what position would the hands be then? Well, the hour hand would be a bit to the right of the 12, but the minute hand would be just above the 4, at a slight downward angle.

If you... drop someone onto the minute hand when it's nearly straight-up, then... eventually the hand would move in such a way that the unfortunate victim... would slide right off.

But there's a risk: if anyone looked at the clock between 12:00 and 12:19, surely they would've seen SiRReN hanging there...

So, did nobody look at the clock in that time?"
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"Mmmm, I think Crimson did look at the clock this time."

She thought about the discussion so far.

"From the sounds of it, Ryuji heard someone go up the stairs, and we've been assuming it was Crimson. But what if it was the killer? They entered as Ryuji left, and left as Crimson entered. It's the only thing I can think of now."
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If you... drop someone onto the minute hand when it's nearly straight-up, then... eventually the hand would move in such a way that the unfortunate victim... would slide right off.

But there's a risk: if anyone looked at the clock between 12:00 and 12:19, surely they would've seen SiRReN hanging there...


"Maybe I'm missing something, but why straight up?" Alchie asked. "They could have done it when the minute hand was at three, couldn't they? Straight means she should have been pierced by the clock hand... right? Though that's a small time frame..."
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Crimson clears her throat. "The best way to handle things from here would probably be for everyone to reveal their talents...I, for example, recieved Arthur's talent of being the Ultimate Mystery Novelist. My err, presentation of SiRReN's body was inspired by some novels I had been reading...not to mention, the paper cranes I had folded were made using pages torn from mystery books.."
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Arthur rubbed his temples. "Well, if nothing else, I believe that Crimson changing a crime scene to fit a narrative is very like my talent... I can confirm it..." said Arthur. "Although I would remind her that rearranging a crime scene to fit a narrative obscures the truth more than it reveals it..."
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"So that leaves the cosplayer, sociologist, prosecutor, and wordsmith."

Flo got an idea.

"Define sociology!"
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Matt recalled an event from a few days ago..

"Can someone tell me the drinking laws of 100 different states?"
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"Don't answering those questions come more from dedicated studies than talent alone? I mean, to find out the other talents, we focused on instinct, like Ryuji's feeling of taking risks..." Alchie said. "Is there any instinctual feeling when it comes to sociology or prosecuting? Like wanting to make notes on people, or wanting to put the accused behind bars?"
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"Don't answering those questions come more from dedicated studies than talent alone? I mean, to find out the other talents, we focused on instinct, like Ryuji's feeling of taking risks..." Alchie said. "Is there any instinctual feeling when it comes to sociology or prosecuting? Like wanting to make notes on people, or wanting to put the accused behind bars?"


"Yeah.. besides, these questions won't get us anywhere. The killer will simply choose not to answer, so.. Let's just move on."
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"Well, other than an ever-growing urge to scream

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I don't know what instincts a prosecutor might have. Perhaps a need to point out contradictions? For the sociologist... a need to put people into categories? I dunno," Jay guessed.
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"...So we're assuming the culprit is the inheritor of the Super High School Level Cosplayer talent, right?"
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"I-it seems most likely, but there's nothing to tie it to them. So it looks like we have no way of determining any of the talents at this point…"

Flo buried her face in her hands.

"We're stuck at a dead end."
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"M-Maybe we could consider using a lifeline," Ryuji suggested.
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"Maybe..." Sayako sighed. "If we had any idea where the third costume was, that would be a big help."
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"...So we're assuming the culprit is the inheritor of the Super High School Level Cosplayer talent, right?"

"That's what I originally would've thought," Jay admitted, "What with the idea of this piece of an ethereal bodice, the rest of which nobody can seem to find. The idea was the Ultimate Cosplayer simply repaired one of the dresses.

However, they wouldn't have had time to repair SiRReN's costume, and Ryuji's not the Ultimate Cosplayer. So both dresses are eliminated that way... I think. Unless someone has any other ideas?"
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"Yes, the bodice. It's the only thing to possibly tie the crime to the cosplayer. All we know is that SiRReN didn't have her cosplayer talent, as her room was a mess. Should we discuss about that bodice or use a lifeline on it?"
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"What's there to discuss?" Sayako blinked in surprise. "There was a third dress sewn before the crime. It's the only thing that makes sense."
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"We're currently on about two theories. The bodice either came from the dress SiRReN was wearing and the killer repaired it. Or the killer was wearing the same costume and the bodice came from them. It was found in the room below where Ryuji was practicing. So we can deduce that either the bodice was snagged off while SiRReN was being pushed out, or snagged the killer when they were pushing her out or moving upstairs…"
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Sayako shook her head, looking more confident about this particular bit than she had in some time. " The k... c-culprit repairing SiRReN's dress doesn't add up. Sakura and Slezak-kun said they were sure the fabric wasn't from that, and even if they were wrong, why would the culprit sew the dress up but leave the torn piece in the window?"
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"Yes, so it must have wound up there without the killer noticing. So it can't have been from SiRReN's… If it was from Ryuji's then he would've noticed and gotten ridden of the bodice too. So it could only be the SHSL cosplayer…"
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"Jay, the clock face faces the ocean. So I don't thing anyone would have seen that. Just my two cents."
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"Okay Van," Jay responded, "So do you have anything to add? Any theories? We're kinda running dry on leads and ideas here."
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"No, I was thinking about what you were thinking about the clock hands, since that would explain how she might have been knocked out way before. Like obviously Crimson didn't hear a scream because the body had been knocked out. Also what's the reason for knocking someone out if not to time their death in a specific way?"

"That obviously means that anyone even us at practice could have done it, well maybe, I forget all our alibis, but I know I have none for that time. I guess how would the body be hung from the clock would be my question, if people want to follow that train of thought."

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"Littering… the littering rule. Monokuma told me that the things inside the tower don't count as littering, but things outside would. Jay said that this must've been why Crimson moved the body inside. Because all those paper cranes would count as littering. And SiRReN's handbook, it wasn't tossed out because that would count for littering. The only thing that doesn't count is the body itself. So then, why would the killer leave the handbook on the roof? If it was on SiRReN then that wouldn't have been an issue. But for whatever reason, it wasn't, why…"
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"Okay I asked Monokuma another question. It's about how long it would've taken to reach the tower from various locations. Here's what we have:"

Auditorium to tower- 2 minutes
Library to tower- 10 minutes
Beach to tower- 20 minutes
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"Okay, addendum to my theory earlier," Jay declared, "If the killer dropped SiRReN onto the clock hands, they coudn't have done it before 12:05.

As someone mentioned, dropping them right onto the hand might impale them.

But, they could drop the body after a certain time and it would become wedged in between the hour and minute hand.

The angle of the hands would slowly get more and more obtuse, with the minute hand eventually sloping downward at a rate where gravity would overcome static friction.

This would allow the body to fall free of the hands and plop unceremoniously into the sand. Crimson hears it, checks SiRReN's pulse, 12:19, there it is."
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"So if we say the culprit put SiRReN on the clock hand at 12:05, then they have to be someone who could get to where Flo and Matt saw them at 12:10. So... that's anyone who arrived late to the auditorium, Crimson, me I guess, and... that's it?" Sakura said.

"It doesn't seem likely it was Crimson due to her actions. Erm... I dunno how good an alibi it is, but I saw Ryuji up on the roof at some point, and Crimson did too. Plus I then ran into Flo and Matt... Otherwise I can't think of anything that helps my case."

"But as for the auditorium people... do we actually have anything saying it couldn't have been one of them? They all arrived separately."
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"But if the killer wasn't present when I found the body...how did Jay's paper crane end up in SiRReN's hand when I went back downstairs to take a closer look?"
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"SiRReN must have been holding onto it the whole time." Sakura replied. "Otherwise, isn't it difficult to get a... d-dead person to hold something like that?"

"I don't think Ryuji saw any chloroform when he entered the temple at 12, but it was there when he left. So... maybe SiRReN and the culprit went to the temple at 12:05, SiRReN picked up the crane and then the culprit knocked her out?"
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"When it comes to knocking people out, there might be something I should tell you. I used to suffer from hypersensitivity against chloroform. Even a drop of it would knock me out on the spot. I'm rather sure that Cesar inherited this from me, so I think we can pretty much rule him out. Handling chloroform would be an extremely stupid thing for him to do."

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"If the times from the radio tower are right... and I don't see why they wouldn't be, nobody knew it was tracking the handbooks and the door had to be broken down to get in and find out... t-then it looks like it'd have to be someone who went to the auditorium... I was thinking the bodice fabric in the window meant the culprit had an identical dress, but... we didn't find anything like that and there's a no littering rule so m-maybe that piece was faked to frame whoever had the cosplayer talent? Meaning there's no way to narrow it down by who has what talent..."

Sayako looked as if she were about to start crying, but quickly pulled her glasses off and wiped her eyes. "No... no, we can do this. We HAVE to do this. There has to be something else we've overlooked..."
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