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"Alchie was shot before the explosion right? Do you think… the killer did that because they didn't want Alchie to die there? And if so, what about me and Matchy?"
"That is not quite the conclusion I've reached." said Arthur. "But I'm open to being convinced."
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Flo gave it another thought.
"Then how would they have broken the anti-grav window… they had the ray to shoot Alchie, so could they have shrunken or frozen it…"
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"When we investigated the crime scene, Ryuji picked up the gun and said it was empty. Two guns were missing from the armory, and five bullets. Sakura used one of the guns and a shrink bullet. That leaves us with the crime scene gun having a shrink bullet, a growth, and two freezes."
As usual, Flo scribbled it all down:
Freeze bullet #1: Used to freeze Alchie
Freeze bullet #2: Potentially used to freeze Crimson
Growth bullet: Used to grow the fire on the staircase
Shrink bullet #1: Used by Sakura on herself
Shrink bullet #2: Theorized to have been used to get rid of the anti-gravity chamber window
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"Are we sure about that?" asked Arthur. "Alchie, how did you know that you were frozen specifically after the Chem Lab explosion? You weren't on that floor at the time, and you didn't mention sensing any of the other explosions. And Matt only found you after the time machine explosion."
"... I could tell it was the third because I heard it," Alchie said, looking at Arthur in confusion. "I didn't mention the other explosions because the main question at that time was when I had been shot, which would be answered by the explosion that happened just before I was frozen."
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"Alchie, if you don't mind my asking, why is it that you were going to the Time Machine room?" asked Arthur, pensively. "You said that you knew of the explosions, although precisely how you knew what was going on, you haven't shared. So why the Time Machine room?"
"I don't understand what you mean..." She said, even more confused. "I was in the Time Machine room the whole time, before the explosions. I was there to look at the machine because time travelling was a concept I'd only seen in fiction. What do you mean why that room?"
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"Well you had to walk to the Time Machine Room from somewhere," Jay stated, shooting a curious look towards Alchie, "Would you mind telling us what room you came from? Where you started your walk?"
Alchie looked at Jay incredulously, but slowly answered, "I went to the third floor then took a left to walk into the Time Machine Room. I saw Matt on my way there. That's all, so I'm sorry if you wanted something else."
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"I concur with Flo," Jay remarked, turning his attention to the Actor and Firefighter, "It's ironic when you think about it. Your planning to murder someone actually makes you the least likely to have done it given the circumstances. So, now that you have nothing to worry about, please inform us in complete detail what your plan was so we can figure out what was altered."
Ryuji turned his head from his classmates, wincing in pain. The thought of having to recall the plan hurt Ryuji, but he knew he had no right to be uncomfortable about it.
"...A-Alright. Van was going to set up bunsen burners and leak gas through them to start a fire. T-The bunsen burners had timers attached to them that could start the flame, so the timers would just need to be set after the gas had leaked long enough...W-We were going to clear the area, and s-since everyone knew the escape routes, V-Van would just have to wait at one of them and...d-do the job on one of us."
Clutching his heart, he continued.
"T-Then, after Van told me who the victim was, I-I was going to feign being the victim by screaming into the walkie talkie so the people in the main entrance could hear, a-and to give Van an alibi."
Spoiler: Flashback
"...T-Then, while I was waiting in the anti-gravity room, he just told me that the plan was off...so I headed to the main entrance."
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Jay then adjusted his gaze back to Ryuji as the actor explained himself. Jay replied, "Thanks for sharing Ryuji, though unfortunately, that didn't seem to give us anything new to work with. Maybe Van will have something to add from his side of the plan? I'd still like to hear his account."
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"I'm sorry Alchie, I'm just trying to fill in every gap," stated Jay with honesty, "Besides, you still didn't answer my question. You 'went to the third floor,' but is it really so difficult just to say which room you left on your way to the third floor? Please don't take this as me accusing you or anything. I just want completeness, no matter how trifling the detail may seem."
Jay then adjusted his gaze back to Ryuji as the actor explained himself. Jay replied, "Thanks for sharing Ryuji, though unfortunately, that didn't seem to give us anything new to work with. Maybe Van will have something to add from his side of the plan? I'd still like to hear his account."
Jay then adjusted his gaze back to Ryuji as the actor explained himself. Jay replied, "Thanks for sharing Ryuji, though unfortunately, that didn't seem to give us anything new to work with. Maybe Van will have something to add from his side of the plan? I'd still like to hear his account."
"Well… there was one thing he mentioned. Or more like, didn't mention. The staircase, they weren't planning on having the fire there right? So I guess that confirms that this was the killer's doing. And Ryuji in the anti-gravity chamber, was he meant to be in his suit in a position like Crimson's I wonder. I do agree on hearing Van out, there might be something he can add here."
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"Not much more to say about our plan that Ryuji didn't say. That's all we talked about over the walkie talkies before I called off the plan."
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"I'm sorry Alchie, I'm just trying to fill in every gap," stated Jay with honesty, "Besides, you still didn't answer my question. You 'went to the third floor,' but is it really so difficult just to say which room you left on your way to the third floor? Please don't take this as me accusing you or anything. I just want completeness, no matter how trifling the detail may seem."
"I see..." Alchie trailed off in understanding. "My confusion stemmed from the fact I didn't exactly leave any room, that is- I went to the Time Machine Room immediately on entering Door 3. Apologies for leaving that out."
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Ryuji weakly turned to Arthur. "...Y-You can handle this, right?"
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Ryuji weakly turned to Arthur. "...Y-You can handle this, right?"
Without returning Ryuji's glance, Arthur said, "I agree that Crimson's timeline is crucial. I will do this if it's what we want. "
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"I'm sure you can do it. Arthur, man, do us proud," Jay encouraged as he shot his hand up into the air, "On the motion of Arthur Ranpo using the Logic Dive, I vote aye!"
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Spoiler: "Logic Dive Results"
"So, I've been trying to put together Crimson's timeline in such a way that it makes sense, and I have what I hope to be something useful." said Arthur. "I think it's beyond doubt that Crimson did go to the third floor-- Flo was very actively checking the second floor, and between Ryuji and Van, the first floor seemed to be covered as well. Before, I had explicitly assumed that Crimson was swapped with the killer when she re-entered Door 3, but now, I'm not so sure. What if she really did intend to go to the third floor to help rescue survivors? And then switched bodies with the killer in that time? I know it sounds unreasonable, but if it's true, then there are really only a couple of people who could have done it: those that are on the third floor at this time, Matt or Alchie."
"But I think that there's one thing that suggests one over the other." said Arthur. "If Crimson really does swap bodies with the killer, then the killer absolutely must disable the body that Crimson's consciousness is in. If they don't, they risk the possibility that Crimson alerts someone that they've switched bodies, or otherwise interferes with the killer's plan. This is why I believe that the killer, in Crimson's body, freezes Alchie. Because it was Alchie that switched bodies with Crimson. Afterwards, she uses the freeze bullet on Alchie's body to prevent Crimson from interfering with Alchie's murder plan."
"See? This is why the killer couldn't swap bodies with Crimson before the explosions. If so, then they risk Crimson outing the killer in their own body!"
"Then, Alchie, in Crimson's body, escapes out the blown-out window during the explosion in the Time Machine, and uses one of the remaining bullets in the gun to break into the Gravity room. And then, as the air in that room is evacuated, simply takes off her mask and kills Crimson's body."
"This is simply my best guess, though," said Arthur. "And if there are problems with this theory, I'm happy to amend or retract it."
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Ryuji tilted his head. "But how did Alchie manage to switch with Crimson..? T-To be honest, until we answer that, I don't think I'm ready to accuse her of anything..."
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Ryuji tilted his head. "But how did Alchie manage to switch with Crimson..?"
"I cannot speak to how Alchie convinced Crimson to do so, but there was opportunity-- Matt was stuck in the third story elevator for some time." said Arthur.
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"B-But then...it's possible someone who could have gone to the third floor unspotted froze Alchie, and switched with Crimson, right?"
"It's possible that a third party froze Alchie in order to prevent themselves from being seen," Arthur conceded. "But I doubt that Crimson would've passed by her frozen body without helping, assuming that's what she was her original intention."
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Charlie glanced at Alchie, then back at Arthur, visibly feeling uncomfortable. "This seems to make sense, but I don't get how... the killer would have convinced Crimson to switch bodies in the middle of a fire. Even if she didn't see the blaze, there is no way she could've missed the explosions, right?"
Arthur shrugged. "Quite right, I'm afraid. Unless Crimson was somehow coerced, I can't think of a good reason that she would've switched bodies during the catastrophe either."
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Charlie glanced at Alchie, then back at Arthur, visibly feeling uncomfortable. "This seems to make sense, but I don't get how... the killer would have convinced Crimson to switch bodies in the middle of a fire. Even if she didn't see the blaze, there is no way she could've missed the explosions, right?"
Arthur shrugged. "Quite right, I'm afraid. Unless Crimson was somehow coerced, I can't think of a good reason that she would've switched bodies during the catastrophe either."
"I doubt Crimson would have been convinced to swap bodies in the middle of a fire. She'd be more concerned with saving people, I'd think."
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"I doubt Crimson would have been convinced to swap bodies in the middle of a fire. She'd be more concerned with saving people, I'd think."
"I doubt Crimson would have been convinced to swap bodies in the middle of a fire. She'd be more concerned with saving people, I'd think."
"Well," said Arthur. "If that's the case, and Crimson didn't use the body swapper in the QCD at all, then what did Crimson actually do on the third floor? And who would have had the opportunity to actually kill Crimson if not Crimson herself?"
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Slezak wrote:
"Uh, I know this is getting really juicy now, but I've been mulling over my bugs theory for a bit now, and I need to check one more idea," Jay declared. "Matt, I'm gonna need your tech experience for this one," Jay requested, beckoning the technophile over to where Jay was, "I just want to remove the bugs from the system, reconnect everything back up, and make sure the walkie-talkies still work as they should sans listening devices. Can you help me do that?"
"Huh?" He turned over to Jay, scratching his head. "Well.. Sure, I'll help you." He walked over to where Jay was.
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