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"Well, even if Max was after the trophy, he was forced to leave the trophy behind as it could be incriminating evidence that proves that he was never in the bathroom from 3:50 to 4:05. And, given that he have no way of getting the trophy back on the shelf..." Great Dragon reasoned.
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"W-what? Me? Uh... No sir! N-no way at all!"

Max was sweating bullets as he spoke.


"Tell the truth! You can't even fool a fucking kid!" Luke exclaims, evidently pretty bothered. "Did you get there AFTER Deirdre died? You had to, right?"

"I-I have no idea what you mean, my man!" Max raised his hands up in defense. "Ol' Max ain't a sociopath! If I came into a room and saw a d-dead body in it, I wouldn't just go for the shiny thing! I'd tell the others about what happened! You've gotta stop bein' r-ridiculous, you know?"


"Hey, asshole, the literal last thing I would see you do is help people! You're a fuckin' scammer and opportunist!" Luke yells out. "Nobody's buyin' your shit!"
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"Well, even if Max was after the trophy, he was forced to leave the trophy behind as it could be incriminating evidence that proves that he was never in the bathroom from 3:50 to 4:05. And, given that he have no way of getting the trophy back on the shelf..." Great Dragon reasoned.

"Then maybe he tried to get to the trophy BEFORE the murder, when he was supposedly in the bathroom?" Ruby theorized.
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"Well, even if Max was after the trophy, he was forced to leave the trophy behind as it could be incriminating evidence that proves that he was never in the bathroom from 3:50 to 4:05. And, given that he have no way of getting the trophy back on the shelf..." Great Dragon reasoned.

"Then maybe he tried to get to the trophy BEFORE the murder, when he was supposedly in the bathroom?" Ruby theorized.


"There's no reason he had to be in the bathroom. Nobody can verify it, and it matches up with Deirdre's death timeline. It's pretty clear-cut to me that he was with Deirdre in the office and tried stealing the trophy... before she died. That also means..."

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"Oh, get out of here with that! I've already made at least one successful sale over here!" Max objected. "Besides, y'think this is comparable to life and death? If I witnessed Deedee's b-body after she died, I'd have no reason to hide it! Trophy or not, too! I have plenty more wares in any case, and it would hardly be as important in that case!"

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"Well, even if Max was after the trophy, he was forced to leave the trophy behind as it could be incriminating evidence that proves that he was never in the bathroom from 3:50 to 4:05. And, given that he have no way of getting the trophy back on the shelf..." Great Dragon reasoned.

"Then maybe he tried to get to the trophy BEFORE the murder, when he was supposedly in the bathroom?" Ruby theorized.


"There's no reason he had to be in the bathroom. Nobody can verify it, and it matches up with Deirdre's death timeline. It's pretty clear-cut to me that he was with Deirdre in the office and tried stealing the trophy... before she died. That also means..."

Luke glares at Max.


"Oh, that means what?!" Max asked, his face red now. "Say it to my face, buddy! C'mon! Say it!"
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"But how would he know it was going to make him a suspect if it happened before the murder? There must be another reason it was left behind in that case."
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"Oh, that means what?!" Max asked, his face red now. "Say it to my face, buddy! C'mon! Say it!"


"...M-Maybe you killed Deirdre..."
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"perhaps it was because of Deidre's death that he was in the washroom, as I made mention of before he looked rather sickly when I found him. perhaps he was even the one to have killed her, if he did then he moved to one elevator, which was blocked then moved to the other but in finding out he was leaving footprints he went to the washroom to remove the blood."
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"Oh, get out of here with that! I've already made at least one successful sale over here!" Max objected. "Besides, y'think this is comparable to life and death? If I witnessed Deedee's b-body after she died, I'd have no reason to hide it! Trophy or not, too! I have plenty more wares in any case, and it would hardly be as important in that case!"

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"There's no reason he had to be in the bathroom. Nobody can verify it, and it matches up with Deirdre's death timeline. It's pretty clear-cut to me that he was with Deirdre in the office and tried stealing the trophy... before she died. That also means..."

Luke glares at Max.


"Oh, that means what?!" Max asked, his face red now. "Say it to my face, buddy! C'mon! Say it!"


"That you're probably a fucking killer too!" Luke responds, with little care about what he was saying. "And you tried capitalizing on it by trying to steal a God damn trophy to sell when you got out! You probably dropped it because you're a clumsy ass or something!"
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"Oh, that means what?!" Max asked, his face red now. "Say it to my face, buddy! C'mon! Say it!"


"...M-Maybe you killed Deirdre..."


Max's eye twitched. He leaned against the podium a little ominously.

"So... Why do you think you ol' Max would want to do a thing like that, huh? How'd that add up with everything you know?" He asked quietly.
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"... The way you're acting right now is also kind of suspicious.... Hmm... maybe it was an accident and you dropped the trophy from the shock?"
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"W-wait, s-so... Max was trying to s-steal the trophy... D-Deirdre walked in on him... a-and so he k-killed her...? I-is that really what h-happened...?" Tsubasa stammered, her face paling.
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Luke seems to realize something, standing upright once again. "... Hold on. Ruby, weren't you with Max at the aquarium when Deirdre died? Or at least around that time." He asks, calming down a bit.

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"... The way you're acting right now is also kind of suspicious.... Hmm... maybe it was an accident and you dropped the trophy from the shock?"


"A-an accident?" Max flinched, genuinely shocked by this line of questioning. "What the hell..? How do you think I could just stab somebody by accident? That's c-crazy!" He objected.
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"Dee never paid you for that baggy of phony chess stuff that you gave her, right? What if you wanted to get on revenge on her, so you stabbed her with one of Mr. Hugh's swords! That's your M.O., or whatever!"

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"Oh, that means what?!" Max asked, his face red now. "Say it to my face, buddy! C'mon! Say it!"


"...M-Maybe you killed Deirdre..."


Max's eye twitched. He leaned against the podium a little ominously.

"So... Why do you think you ol' Max would want to do a thing like that, huh? How'd that add up with everything you know?" He asked quietly.

"Perhaps it was to protect yourself? after all it is possible Max here wasn't the one to strike first, but regardless it would still mean you would be the killer."
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Luke seems to realize something, standing upright once again. "... Hold on. Ruby, weren't you with Max at the aquarium when Deirdre died? Or at least around that time." He asks, calming down a bit.

"Hmm... He got there a little after 4:10, after he met up with Dale and Woody in the lobby, and Dale came with him to the aquarium."
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"Max might not have had enough time to kill both of them. He only had about... ten minutes, give or take. Then again, that's enough to stab someone with a katana. Not so sure about getting rid of Sam as well though. Is that possible? Maybe Sam walked up to the scene of the murder...?" Luke ponders.
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Luke seems to realize something, standing upright once again. "... Hold on. Ruby, weren't you with Max at the aquarium when Deirdre died? Or at least around that time." He asks, calming down a bit.

"D-did we ever figure out w-when she died...? T-the last time anyone s-saw her was at 3:50..."
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"His clothes are red. Maybe he never washed the blood off to begin with, it's just still on his clothes right now," Ramon suggested, trying to keep up.
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"Admittedly, if Sam went up the northern elevator, it would've been easy for him to happen upon the crime scene and notice Max stealing his booty. Max would then have to drop his trophy and get rid of Sam to save his own ass. He then just had to put the dead body in the elevator and send it down. And all Max had to do was go down the southern elevator and into the casino room." Luke rambles for a bit.

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"Dee never paid you for that baggy of phony chess stuff that you gave her, right? What if you wanted to get on revenge on her, so you stabbed her with one of Mr. Hugh's swords!"

"I made more than my money's worth back through all the games." Max replied, deadpan. "If I'd kill somebody over money, it wouldn't be as money as lowly, as insignificant as... What even was it again? 45 bucks? Yeah right, as if." He shook his head.

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"Perhaps it was to protect yourself? after all it is possible Max here wasn't the one to strike first, but regardless it would still mean you would be the killer."


"Can't say that's a reasonable line of thought either, Dale friend", Max continued. "Deedee wouldn't attack me if she saw me in a room pulling out some kind of heist. And I ain't a fan of self defence either. My go to method is usually to give them such a good deal that they'll reconsider attacking me! Win win and all that."

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"His clothes are red. Maybe he never washed the blood off to begin with, it's just still on his clothes right now," Ramon suggested, trying to keep up.


"Like I said, blood dries fast. There's no blood on my clothes whatsoever though. Feel free to check."

Sure enough, on closer examination, there are zero bloodstains on Max's clothes.
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"I've gotta say," Max added, "I think you guys might just be floundering around here. You're trying to think of too much at once, and it shows. None of these add up at all. You have your theory about the trophy, and the katana. Now where does Sam even play into all this?" He shook his head. "Maybe you've got to calm down and rethink all these ridiculous accusations. There's a much simpler explanation for all of this, I'm sure."
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"So... You were grabbing the trophy, Deirdre walked in and stabbed herself to death, shocking you enough that you dropped the trophy and bolted?" Ramon summarised. "That makes sense to me!"
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"No." Max drily replied. "Nothing like that ever happened. Even I couldn't sell such a ridiculously tall tale, pal."

He shook his head and turned to Myrion. "Y'know, robot buddy, you still haven't answered my question. How the heck do you stab somebody on accident? Are you gonna keep me waitin' here or what?" He asked, wiping some sweat off his brow.
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"No." Max drily replied. "Nothing like that ever happened. Even I couldn't sell such a ridiculously tall tale, pal."

He shook his head and turned to Myrion. "Y'know, robot buddy, you still haven't answered my question. How the heck do you stab somebody on accident? Are you gonna keep me waitin' here or what?" He asked, wiping some sweat off his brow.


"Um...maybe one of the katanas slipped off the rack..?"
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Max flinched again. "C-come on, friend... How would that happen? Those things are well adjusted and all..." His tone appeared a bit weaker now.
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Southern Corn wrote:
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"... The way you're acting right now is also kind of suspicious.... Hmm... maybe it was an accident and you dropped the trophy from the shock?"


"A-an accident?" Max flinched, genuinely shocked by this line of questioning. "What the hell..? How do you think I could just stab somebody by accident? That's c-crazy!" He objected.


"Yeah, an accident! Stabbing someone in the front with actual intent to kill them would have probably resulted in a lot more struggle, I think. Maybe something happened while you were trying to climb to reach the trophy? Ah, and if it was planned, the killer would be careful not to step on the blood, right?"
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"No." Max drily replied. "Nothing like that ever happened. Even I couldn't sell such a ridiculously tall tale, pal."

He shook his head and turned to Myrion. "Y'know, robot buddy, you still haven't answered my question. How the heck do you stab somebody on accident? Are you gonna keep me waitin' here or what?" He asked, wiping some sweat off his brow.

Dale thought about it. "What if you accidentally dropped the trophy and knocked the katana off the shelf. is it then possible it could have pierced Deidre as a result?"
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"No." Max drily replied. "Nothing like that ever happened. Even I couldn't sell such a ridiculously tall tale, pal."

He shook his head and turned to Myrion. "Y'know, robot buddy, you still haven't answered my question. How the heck do you stab somebody on accident? Are you gonna keep me waitin' here or what?" He asked, wiping some sweat off his brow.

Dale thought about it. "What if you accidentally dropped the trophy and knocked the katana off the shelf. is it then possible it could have pierced Deidre as a result?"

"Ehh, if that WERE possible, Deirdre would need to be in a reeeeally specific place so the katana would stab her..."
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"..Oh, I get it, that's what you're saying, is it? The w-whole thing was a dumb accident, huh?" Max shook his head. "Well, it's a nice thought, my artificial friend, but I'm afraid..."

He paused for a second. "Uh... Um. Er."

For a few minutes, pure silence filled the room.

"...Look, I can explain." Max was practically coated in sweat at this point, with his arms raised up in defense.
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"Actually, how about this theory." Great Dragon said as he thinks about this.


"You went to get the trophy. While you were in the process of getting the trophy, Deirdre busted you in the act. Out of fear, you stabbed her with the katana. You didn't mean to kill her, but it happened. So, you left the trophy behind and went to uses the northern elevator in order to leave the 2nd floor to the bathroom in the lobby. But when the northern elevator door open, you saw Sam's body. You knew that if you were seen with Sam's body, it'd look really bad for you. So you went to use the southern elevator instead. As for why blood didn't get onto you, it's likely that you were wearing something that would keep blood and liquids off your clothes and skin, like gloves or a raincoat. The gloves seems more likely, as they're easier to hide. The raincoat would be more difficult to hide." Great Dragon explains. "However, this may be wrong. So, if it's wrong, then Great Dragon is very sorry."
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"..Oh, I get it, that's what you're saying, is it? The w-whole thing was a dumb accident, huh?" Max shook his head. "Well, it's a nice thought, my artificial friend, but I'm afraid..."

He paused for a second. "Uh... Um. Er."

For a few minutes, pure silence filled the room.

"...Look, I can explain." Max was practically coated in sweat at this point, with his arms raised up in defense.


"Oh, it wasn't? Explain, then." Myrion smiled.
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Luke widens his eyes in disbelief. "Did you somehow manage to accidentally kill her with a katana you were trying to fuckin' steal or something?"
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"W-well it sounds like he was climbing the katanas to reach the trophy, and he dislodged one of them with his feet as he did, dropping it into Deirdre who was standing nearby..."
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"W-well it sounds like he was climbing the katanas to reach the trophy, and he dislodged one of them with his feet as he did, dropping it into Deirdre who was standing nearby..."


Luke taps his chin for a bit then shakes his head. "The katana stabbed her in the midsection. That doesn't happen accidentally. Consider the angle her chest had to be at to do that."
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"No, no, no... It wasn't like that! It wasn't like that at all, dammit!" Max kicked the podium in frustration. It was hard to tell, but it looked like he had started to slightly cry, though it blended in with the sweat.

"You guys don't understand! I-i-it wasn't supposed to be like this at all! It was so much simpler than this... See, I was talkin' with Deedee near the restroom. I'd devised this genius plan! Hugh-man was a rich guy, and he was a charitable fella to boot! I figured that he wouldn't mind if we, er... Stole into his room and took some of his riches with us. Deedee was a bit sceptical of the idea, but she followed me into the room. Now first thing I see is that shiny trophy on that shelf. 'Course, I realised that it'd be a handy thing to try and sell, so I decide to recruit Deedee in obtaining it. She held the chair in place while I used it to climb onto the katanas and reach the shelf. But... Well, it wasn't foolproof! My foot slipped a bit as I neared the top, but I couldn't avert my eyes from my goal! I made it up the wall and grabbed my prize!"

"Now, er... As I admired my prize for a bit, I... Kinda realised that something went wrong. I spoke to Deirdre but... She didn't respond. So I looked over... And... A-and..." His body started shivering uncontrollably as he struggled to get the words out. "I... I saw her body, alright?! She was on the floor with a katana in her midsection... She was lying there like a baby in that pool of blood... I don't know how I didn't hear it, I swear! It was all... It was all totally accidental! She didn't make a single noise... She just collapsed onto the floor and a-accepted her fate for some reason... If she'd have said something, maybe I would've been able to do something about it... I... I just... Oh lord! I've really done it now, haven't I?! After all this, it just turned out that my little slip... Caused all this to enfold..." He looked ready to burst into tears at any second.

"Uh, well, anyway, I saw that horrific scene... And I totally lost it. I ran out of the room at that point. It was about 4:05 at the time, so... Anyway, I didn't realise I'd accidentally stepped in that pool of blood as I made my way out, so I left a bit of a trail. I ran over to the north elevator to use it, but it was all in vain! All I saw was Sam's corpse. He'd already passed on by then... There wasn't any blood around, and nobody else in the elevator either, but it just worsened my nerves! I finally made it to the south elevator and used the restroom to try and calm down a bit. Somehow I hadn't noticed the trail I'd left, so I didn't bother drying myself or anything. I was... Too freaked out to notice. And then, well, I went out and..." He beckoned to Woody and Dale. "You know how it ends."

"T-that's... T-that's it, folks... I, I, I..." He stammered before suddenly crying out in pain. "HEAVENS TO BETSY, I can't take this anyMOOOOOREEEEEE!" He leaned his head onto the podium and began loudly sobbing like a fucking baby. It would've been amusing if it weren't so goddamn pathetic. "This is all my fault! I don't deserve to be here! Why oh why oh why?!"
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"So... Sam's death was before Deirdre's death... That make sense." Great Dragon said quietly.
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"... S-So... that's it, then. Deirdre's death was just... just a big, stupid, dumb accident..." Ruby mumbled, gripping onto her podium so tightly that her hands turned white as they trembled. She sniffled and looked up to Max, her teary eyes forming a glare. But instead of saying anything, she just shook her head and looked to the others.

"U-Um... anyway... if that's the case, then I guess it was Sam who died first, huh?"
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"W-Wait, if Max didn't kill Sam...and Sam's killer is different...who do we even vote for..?"
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