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Oh man, I'll take Hamigaki over Lotta anyday. I thought he was genuinely endearing.

MATH TIME.

I was thinking about this earlier. GS1 had 29 different characters. GS2 had 33, 10 of which were returning characters. GS3 had 36 with 15 returning.

Now GS4 had 32, with only 6 returning (due to the new arc). So...for now let's assume that GS5 will have 33, with 10-12 returning. Who do you think it'll be??

I think a few are obvious:

1. Odoroki
2. Minuki
3. Phoenix
4. The Judge
5. Payne
6. Ema
7. Kyouya - probably not as the head prosecutor, but I bet he'll be there.
8. Lamiroir

Let's also assume that the writers bow to fan pressure and include Edgeworth and at least one Fey (either Maya or Pearl. I don't think both of them have a chance of coming back).

So, assuming 1 or 2 GS4-introduced characters have a chance of returning, who do you think they'll be?

I think Makoto and Hamigaki have the best chances of showing back up. As a reporter, Hamigaki has an excuse to be at almost any crime scene. Makoto has a lot of backstory to clear up, and a lot of development to look forward to. I'd be glad to see either of them.

I think there's also a small chance for Mugitsura.

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Being a former doctor, he could potentially be a lot of help to Odoroki & Minuki, especially when it comes to clearing up a strange autopsy report or something like that. It would depend on the case, probably.


I'd also really like to see Maki again, but maybe not until GS6.

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I don't think they could keep him in prison for long, being only 14. And since he's Lamiroir's adopted son...that makes him and Odoroki step-brothers! And for some reason I find that beyond adorable.


So of those 4...I think Makoto and Hamigaki have a good chance of reappearing.
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I bet Capcom will introduce a new hot female prosecutor in GS5 like in GS2.

Maybe related to the Garyuus/Gavins.
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I just hope Capcom doesn't decide to go MegaMan-style on Phoenix Wright and have one single main villain from the first game reappear in every final case of the Justice Arc. In fact, I hope Kirihito stays behind bars and only serves a purpose in plot development for those...
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Something tells me that either GS5 or 6 are going to be heavily involved with those. Hell, maybe some will break in GS5 and the rest will be met in GS6.
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Whatever happens, I hope Kyouya ends up as a witness at some point. Just so I can use the Minuku System on him. :chef:


I can totally see it.

He will play a song on his air guitar, and you will have to point out the node the he hit wrong.

That would be epic. :gant:
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His air guitar goes up in flames--not sure how--but it will!
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Macbeth wrote:
I just hope Capcom doesn't decide to go MegaMan-style on Phoenix Wright and have one single main villain from the first game reappear in every final case of the Justice Arc. In fact, I hope Kirihito stays behind bars and only serves a purpose in plot development for those...
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Something tells me that either GS5 or 6 are going to be heavily involved with those. Hell, maybe some will break in GS5 and the rest will be met in GS6.


Oh man, I know it's a long shot, but...I really hope those come back.

Spoiler:
5 BLACK PSYCHE LOCKS and Odoroki just brushes past them in court? I refuse to believe that Kirihito's motive, that he kept so well protected for seven years, was as simple as jealousy! It's just such a let down. :sadshoe:

What if Kirihito were conspiring with Odoroki's father!? The ultimate villain duo! Or maybe they just knew each other, and Odoroki has to go to prison to get some answers out of Kiri, HANNIBAL LECTER STYLE.

No, I 'm not giving that idea up! :garyuu:

We never got any explanation for his scarred hand, either. If Kirihito doesn't turn out to be FINAL BOSS of GS6, I hope he at least gets to reappear in some capacity. I must know more...!

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We have to remember that Phoenix Wright isn't Mega Man, so they can't just pass off some totally random or recurring dude as "the big boss" and expect the series to retain it's leet-awesome status as a unique video game. Anyone can clone Mega Man but it takes much more than a few recycled elements to make a great adventure game.
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Manfred was really the "boss" in AA, no?
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Case 5-3: Haunted Turnabout

A worker at a horror convention center is murdered.

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Prosecutor: :kyouya:
Defendant: Ferdinand Enstyne, a guy dressed like a frankenstein.
Victim: Vince LaFure, a werewolf guy.

Others:
:ema: Detective Ema stupid Skye.
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Bernard Ravencroft, a world-famous professor famous for robotics and brain transplants.
Arnold Grant (AKA-34), Bernard's robot butler, who had his brain removed years ago.
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Case 5-4: Another Turnabout

Another, special case.

Defence Attorney: Dusk Maynes, an arrogant defence who only cares about his perfect win record and money.
Prosecutor: :edgeworth: (YAY!)
Defendant: New Cheif Of Police :gumshoe:!
Victim: Loston Blood, a clumsly policeman, a bit like Meekins.

Others:

:meekins: Detective Meekins!
Carla Brunchana, a restaurant owner.

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Manfred was really the "boss" in AA, no?


What are you getting at? That Manfred is no different from Sigma and Wily?
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Manny was certainly the driving force in 1-4, but he wasn't popping up too much other than a quick mention/flashback in 1-5 and GS2 but that was more because of his status and reputation. In a way, Manfred was the boss, but not as prominently--more like a "mini-boss."
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Maybe in the first case, you play against Payne's daughter?

And maybe she's like some insane chain smoker and throws cigarettes at Odoroki and sets his hair or fire? (Obvious Godot reference here... :edgy: ) Maybe she could set the Judge's hair on fire so that we could have some new Udgey animations! :udgy:

Or.... We see Payne without his glasses!! They could break like Adrian's glasses, ( :glasses: ) and whenever you saw the full courtroom view, you'd see this big pile of glasses on the floor!
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Thanks for that post Aetheryn :)
I guess Edgey is the main antagonist then. Who are Willy and Sigma? AA3/4 characters?
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Case 5-3: The Reappearing Turnabout

:odoroki: :minuki: :hobohodo: :udgy: :maya: :ema-shock: and Kyouya All end up going on a seperate vacation to Tokyo. However, a murder takes place.

Defence Attorney: :odoroki:
Prosecutor: :kyouya:
Defendant: :minuki: (SHOCK-HORROR!)
Victim: Alma Carolswa, a mafia leader.
COD: Shot in the forehead.
MW: A harpoon gun.

Others:
:sassy: Detective Ema Skye
Rachel Extrezen, a stuntwoman.
Julian Marxaan, a mafia member.
:garyuu: Return of Kirihito Garyuu! For the third time!

Guess who is guilty...
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I want a case where you defend the judge.

hmm... and then maybe Capcom will see AstralFire's/My Judge 3rd person view sheet...>_>? Maybe...?

Well... I think GS5 should be MUCH longer... such as after beating the game with whoever the main character is... you could unlock a different story, such as being a different character, and then eventually... prosecutor... and maybe even... Judge? Or a witness/Defendant.../Murderer :wellington:

And maybe a character Creator... allowing you to make your own custom character, by combining parts from others, and changing colours...

Just some ideas...

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Maybe in the first case, you play against Payne's daughter?

And maybe she's like some insane chain smoker and throws cigarettes at Odoroki and sets his hair or fire? (Obvious Godot reference here... ) Maybe she could set the Judge's hair on fire so that we could have some new Udgey animations!

Or.... We see Payne without his glasses!! They could break like Adrian's glasses, ( ) and whenever you saw the full courtroom view, you'd see this big pile of glasses on the floor!


Umm... Glassesless Payne...?

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I want a case where you defend the judge.


That's interesting you say that.. because just earlier I was reading about a film in the TV Guide called ....And Justice for All (sound familiar? ;) ) - it stars Al Pacino as an idealistic young lawyer who has to defend a judge accused of assaulting a young woman.

When I read "idealistic young lawyer" Nick or Apollo instantly popped into my head.
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Even though we have only had Apollo/Odoroki for 1 game,
I suggest, for 5-1 you play as Apollos apprentice (even though Apollo himself has only been a lawyer a short time), and Apollo can tutor him on court procedure,
then in the second case,
*Bang*
Apollos apprentice is shot on his way out of the courthouse
and who is arrested...
a) the Judge
b) Nick
c) Apollo (prob not, or you'd need to create a new defense lawyer or get nick back)
d) Minuki
e) Ema
f) Payne
g) Kyouya

pick one...

then, Apollo (assuming he isn't the one who is arrested) goes crazy and unleashes his true potential as a lawyer...

ok...
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I'd go for either Nick or Udgey (The Judge) assuming Nick gets his badge back.
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Man, with all these Megaman analogies going on around here, next thing you know Odoroki/Apollo's defending Subaru/Geo from MMSF for case 5-4 and his mom's the killer.

TURNABOUT BAD CROSSOVER :godot:

...

But seriously though, I'd like to see Makoto back, she just seems so nice/adorable. Kirihito/Kristoph too, even if not in such a huge role.

Also, needs more Adrian. Always needs more Adrian. :adrian: If I could see one more character back from the PW arc, it'd be her.

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It's not without merit, though.

Spoiler: GS3 and Starforce
Diego Armando and Hoshikawa Diego both have a somewhat similar story: Thought to be dead, but comes back.

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Spoiler: Re: Mikker
Holy shit, you're right! They even have similar first names!

AU CROSSOVER CASE: Phoenix doesn't take Zakku's case but instead Geo's, who was arrested as Megaman and refuses to reveal his real identity to Phoenix! And there's some crazy conspiracy stuff! And Psyche-Locks! So many Psyche-Locks...
The sad part is, I actually did come up with a half-plausible plot for a AA/MMSF crossover. And that was kinda sorta the base of it. I has too much time on my hands. :yuusaku:

Quick, to the plotmobile! :godot:

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I also kind of like the idea of Apollo falling for the murderer
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not the defendant like Matt
but it would create tension similar to 2-4 I think.
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Now, what if you have to defend :pearl: (just a little older) for murderin' :maya: (who'll look more like this :mia-maya: ) Or, maybe defend your self for killin' a goldfish or somethin'. All I know is, if they're plannin' on puttin' :ema: in this one too, they would have to put :jake: in it! Or else they'll get shot in Texas by :jake: himself!
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That would be a good idea! It would hark back to 1-2 I think (I presume Pearls would be framed).
Sorry I just think "Pearls" is cuter than "Pearl" (stealing Nick's lines now am I) :D *Hugs Pearls* :)
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I thought I read Lana would be the prosecutor in the 5th game.
In that case, is Rise From The Ashes a canon case?
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Absolutely nothing has been officially said about GS5, other than they plan on making it. But Ashes has always been a canon case.
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But it was made before GS2 and 3 DS came out in Japan so wasn't just a spin-off/side story at that point?
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I did hear a rumor that Lana returns in GS5. I'd like it if you could play more flashbacks of Mia's and Phoenix's cases.
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I'd like it if you could play more flashbacks of Mia's and Phoenix's cases.


Then it wouldn't be Apollo Justice. It'd be PHOENIX WRIGHT AND MIA FEY!!!!! (featuring Apollo Justice)
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If there is such a rumor circulating, it's only because people on the forum have said, "It would be cool if Lana came back in GS5." It's not supported by anything Capcom has said (because they haven't said anything).

Ema is in GS4 - that's enough to prove that Ashes is canon. She even mentions that's how she and Phoenix met. The only reason some people prefer not to think of Ashes as canon is because they didn't do the best job of fitting it into the story at that point.
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I want to see more of Apollo and co., not Nick and Maya and the rest of the lot. Roughly eight years have passed, people change and move on... they can still be friends but they don't need to be in his back pocket. :odo-objection:

...Can't dwell on the past forever or the series won't get very far--it will start to stagnate... :garyuu:
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I want to see more of Apollo and co., not Nick and Maya and the rest of the lot. Roughly eight years have passed, people change and move on... they can still be friends but they don't need to be in his back pocket. :odo-objection:

...Can't dwell on the past forever or the series won't get very far--it will start to stagnate... :garyuu:


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Of course, Apollo should be the main focus. But I dont want Nick and Maya to be tossed out either.
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I like that khaaan!s idea to defend judge. Lets put some drama in too:
The case looks like the judge tooootally did it! Even AJ begins to believe udgey did it! Also there will be drama in J's famliy becose his brother has come in to be the judge. Ewen he believes juge did it...BUT! Then, when the all hope is gone we have a miracle! The evidence that shows judge didn't do it is...the GAVEL! Don't ask how it shows it...I dunno!...

We also may have this kind of end (If this is the last ace attorney game):
Phoenix dies. Yep! If this is the last game then this would be end good and dramatic enough so all fans would have sad end, thus, they really see that this is the last part.
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Well, it's still true that Apollo was kinda booted out of the spotlight for a bit too long, considering that it was technically his game...
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I know it's only one idea for one case that would be interesting and I know I'm totally about to be brick'd for this...but...here goes.

Spoiler: Some 2-4, 3-5, 4-3 and 4-4 spoilers referred to in my idea
Kirihito returns with a jailbreak! But here's the kicker--he's had Daian send a poisoned jacket to Kyouya, something that Daian jumps onto the thought of almost immediately as his own little sick plan for revenge. Kyouya subsequently falls ill from the poison, checks himself into the hospital but warns them not to tell ANYONE so he doesn't have news crews and all that good stuff. Kirihito then steps in and claims his identity and murders someone--and gets caught under Kyouya's name [As in, everyone thinks he's Kyouya.]. Odoroki, thinking this is the real Kyouya, agrees to defend him. At the end of the second day of investigation [Feel free to brick me for the whole 2-4 idea coming back in a big way if you so wish.], Odoroki finds out that this fake Kyouya is really none other than Kirihito, who spills the beans on Daian's part of the plan. Odoroki goes to the hospital, finds the sickly Kyouya, who agrees to testify. Somewhere near the end of Kyouya's whole testimony, he collapses a la Maya during 3-5 and here's where Kirihito is really in deep crap. And then...Daian is introduced as the next witness. He admits to the poisoning of Kyouya and gets Kirihito named as the murderer in one fell blow [Here insert poison jacket as evidence]. Odo kinna-sorta loses the case in a 2-4 way, but is glad to get Kirihito put back away for good. ...Is it just me...or would this be good 5-5 material? Shoot me if you wish...but...it's my idea for a case that would be awesome for 5-5. Note: I don't know who the victim should be though, but in a way, Kyouya is at least partially a victim.

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I'm happy with GS5 just as long as that ONE THING never happen.

And if you don't already know by now, I'll sum it up in those few familiar (to BBC lurkers maybe) words.

Spoiler:
Takita/Makoto sucks donkey balls.
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Aetheryn wrote:
I want to see more of Apollo and co., not Nick and Maya and the rest of the lot.


Me too. Send Hobo on a one way trip to Europe, plz.

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Roughly eight years have passed, people change and move on...


This is at odds with everything we've ever seen in the GS games. If this was the case, there never would have been a first game. Or a third game. "It's been six, err, eight, errr, fifteen years, people change..." that's not really an option with these characters...
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hmm...how about like T&T and put in the case that Phoenix got in trouble with as the first case then for the other ones you could have Apollo being the main attorney with Phoenix in his old suit as the mentor. :gymshoe:
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