Apollo Appreciation Thread! (may contain spoilers)

Post by **Croik** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:44 pm

Poor Apollo, what's a antannae-haired spunky red-vested lawyer to do? Taking over the job of a well loved video game lead is no easy task. Unending scrutiny awaits at every turn! You've got some big shoes to fill, little man.

Don't worry, we still love you. :odoroki:

Apollo's gotten a lot of flak for not being Phoenix, but I say...so what? I think he's adorable, and I hope GS5 gives us another great taste of our new hero. I love his enthusiasm and his dedication to his job. I love his emotional scenes that make me want to squeeze him to death. And I love his silly bug hair.

So for just this thread, let's not talk about Hobos, or spiritualists, or anything else that doesn't have to do with Apollo himself. He's new and he needs a little love.

(Apollo Apollo Apollo. I'm trying to get used to it. I think it's starting to work!)

KingMobUK · Post by **KingMobUK** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:51 pm

Aw. The problems I have with GS4 from what I've seen of it are not to do with Apollo - he looks pretty cute and the graphics look fab.

Jibo · Post by **Jibo** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 3:17 pm

I'm one of those few who likes Apollo more than Phoenix. And in my case much more.

I like his expressions and his whole attitude. I kinda just wanna hug him too. He's my favorite lawyer in all of PW and I haven't even played his game yet!

I'm struggling to wait for GS4. ^-^

musouka · Post by **musouka** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 3:28 pm

Apollo is a darling. While I think they should work a tiny bit harder on making his internal monologue (and his and Minuki's relationship) different from Phoenix, I adored him so much. His cute-points are just so wonderful.

Considering any problems I have with the game, playing as him for two more of them is NOT one of them. <3

DomSaxton · Post by **DomSaxton** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 3:33 pm

Aren't we gonna have to start calling the game AJ:AA1

The Aspernator · Post by **The Aspernator** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 3:41 pm

I'll admit that when I first learned that Phoenix was being replaced in the fourth game, I was pretty upset. But little Apollo has grown on me a lot since then. Now I think he's very cute, and I can't wait until his game hits American shores.

Toby Danger · Post by **Toby Danger** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 5:21 pm

I've not played the game yet, but I've quite come to like Apollo from what I've heard about him. The poor sod gets a nasty revelation in the first case, and then finds himself dropped into the wacky world of law with little or no help from Phoenix. But still the guy brings his best, keeps a clear head, and points accusing fingers like a mofo. I hope the translation of GS4 will do him proud.

The Sandwich · Post by **The Sandwich** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 5:37 pm

DomSaxton wrote:Aren't we gonna have to start calling the game AJ:AA1

No, AA4. You didn't call Justice for All PWAAJFA or PWAAT&T now did ya?

Post by **Blademaster_Orca** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 6:02 pm

While Apollo may or may not be the best lawyer ever, his character design and animation is top-notch stuff. Just the way he moves and reacts sets him apart from his predecessors.

His clothes, while not anything spectacular or overdone, go well with Apollo about as much as the blue suit did to Phoenix. His hair is great, too, especially when it droops or moves around with Apollo's actions.

Nekoi Echizen · Post by **Nekoi Echizen** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 7:09 pm

I can't say taht I love Apollo for now cause as The Aspernatore said when I heard that Phoenix wasn't the prota I was really pissed. But now looking it with another eyes he is so cute and I like the couple Apollo and Minuki!^^

Post by **Bolt Storm** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:56 pm

I know I really like Apollo. His 'OBJECTION' is really well done (even if he seems a little small for it) and his character seems nice. Here's hoping he's not overshaded as much in GS5.

Oh, and did I mention that I'll probably like the Apollo/Trucy interaction better than Phoenix/Maya? They just seem to go together so well.

Spoiler: 4-4

Post by **Croik** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:45 pm

I liked Apollo and Trucy's interactions. Trucy's not THAT different than Maya...but somehow the fact that she's acting her age, while Maya was acting *beneath* her age helps me excuse some of her behavior, haha. :garyuu:

But I feel like we haven't *really* gotten to know her yet. I don't want her to end up a suspect, but I hope we get more out of her.

Spoiler:

Mr. Bear Jew · Post by **Mr. Bear Jew** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:50 pm

I've never had a problem with the new protagonist. Those Phoenix fanboys/girls are just upset that their favorite hero has moved on and that another has taken the spotlight. But, things change. You can't stop it. Only welcome it with open arms because it's not like you can stop it from happening. As a result, I'm now looking forward to learning more about Apollo aside from his background...

Spoiler: Big big BIG GS4 spoilers

Allucinari · Post by **Allucinari** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 3:37 am

How can people not like Apollo? He's so adorable with his goofy hair and funny faces. And he wears a vest. Only coffee swilling pimps get away with wearing vests, so clearly he must be made of win.

Granted, my adoration for him is as shallow as character design, since my Japanese ability would get me about six lines into GS4 before I threw a dictionary across the room, but shallow will work for now.

Post by **Gerkuman** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:18 pm

Despite the fact I haven't played the game yet, I'm already an Apollo fan. (The same thing happened with Nick funnily enough, they both just have this awsomeness about them). His attitude is different to Nicks, and I find that interesting.

For a start, Apollo is more idealistic than Phoenix. Phoenix focussed on helping out his friends, while Apollo focuses more on doing the right thing. That pretty much explains the disparity between the two characters on GS4, you're more likely to bend the rules if you don't care about them.(or stopped caring about them in Nick's case)

And yes, I know. I talked about Nick in comparison. But that's because I wanted to show how awesome Apollo is. So should hopefully get away with it X3

Mitzy · Post by **Mitzy** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:49 pm

I'm actually unable to wait for GS4 because of Apollo. He may not be the biggest dog in the yard, but as they say, "It's not the size of the dog in the fight. It's the size of the fight in the dog," and I'm sure hoping he brings just as much, if not more of a fight than Phoenix did. I'm rooting for you, Mr. Justice!

<.< That and he seems to have endless shipping possibilities. But that's something for another time, now innit? ;D

Here's to hoping Capcom will develop more on his character so we know the "true" Apollo, our adorable new hero!

KingMobUK · Post by **KingMobUK** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:42 pm

I really like his costume design, actually. But I am generally a fan of waistcoats and have been known to wear 'em myself with a collar and tie :)

Aetheryn · Post by **Aetheryn** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:45 pm

Apollo needs some love. *hugs* He has a lot of potential. :hobohodo:

Transition game or not, it wasn't particularly cool to have him in the bleachers in his own game.

Yuu-chan · Post by **Yuu-chan** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:20 am

His thinking pose is so intense. *o*

DetectiveTomDamron · Post by **DetectiveTomDamron** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:27 am

It is kinda nice to see a new face in the Ace Attorney world Apollos Objection strikes fear into the hearts of those who oppose him and the fact I like Phoenix's new look by the way....anyone got an idea for his American nickname for being a hobo? :gumshoe:

Divina · Post by **Divina** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 3:01 am

Apollo's pure awesome. Both his Japanese and English objections are great. Apollo's such a dork and it's so cute. I can't wait to play his game. :)

ichigo · Post by **ichigo** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:20 am

DetectiveTomDamron wrote:anyone got an idea for his American nickname for being a hobo?

Odohobo

Apollo seems like a great main character and I hope he has good lines like phoenix had.

MoronSonOfBoron · Post by **MoronSonOfBoron** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 6:15 am

His name is cool. Because it lets me do THIS:

Spoiler: APOLLO JUSTICE

CantFaketheFunk · Post by **CantFaketheFunk** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 7:53 am

Stolen from FandomSecrets:

Spoiler:

Hooray Apollo!

Nekoi Echizen · Post by **Nekoi Echizen** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:52 am

CantFaketheFunk wrote:Stolen from FandomSecrets:

Spoiler:

Hooray Apollo!

Owww!:,,,( I totally agree with you and the image!!

Cevian · Post by **Cevian** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:26 pm

I dunno. I like his English voice and English name. I've not played the game yet, so I don't have a strong opinion on the other parts.

CantFaketheFunk · Post by **CantFaketheFunk** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 3:55 pm

I like "Apollo" as a name--it's great.

But I can't get over 'Justice.'

axl99 · Post by **axl99** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 5:21 pm

Yeah... Why not Burns/Blaze/Bravado or something fire-y of that nature? Or hell, stick him with a greek surname......

KingMobUK · Post by **KingMobUK** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 5:36 pm

CantFaketheFunk wrote:
But I can't get over 'Justice.'

Yeah, I just keep thinking FOR GREAT JUSTICE! and giggling. Which is not good.

The Doctor · Post by **The Doctor** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 5:48 pm

It's nice to know that I'm not the only one in the world who LIKES the name "Apollo Justice".
Even the "Justice" part.

Busterella · Post by **Busterella** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 7:38 pm

Apollo is an adorable little onion/bug/scissor/bunny-headed dorkball whom I cannot wait to ~~hug to death~~ play as. X3

Runcola · Post by **Runcola** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 7:52 pm

axl99 wrote:Yeah... Why not Burns/Blaze/Bravado or something fire-y of that nature? Or hell, stick him with a greek surname......

Apollo Blaze, it does have a ring to it.

Anyway, I'm one of those who Like Apollo pore than Phoenix.

The Sandwich · Post by **The Sandwich** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 8:17 pm

Runcola wrote:Apollo Blaze, it does have a ring to it.

No. Then he's a Streets of Rage character.

Mikker · Post by **Mikker** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 10:23 pm

He's a nice character. A huge improvement over the almost blank sheet that is Phoenix, as far as I understand?

Rebel Vanguard · Post by **Rebel Vanguard** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 10:33 pm

I happen to love Apollo very much I think he is better ~~than the bolagna and the cheese combined~~ than all the characters in Phoenix's arc. I love him to death!

I mean people say his face is stupid. I don't see why people hate him.
I think some people need to more open minded. Especially people who HAVEN'T EVEN PLAYED THE GAME YET!!!

Post by **Croik** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 12:18 am

I wouldn't say yet that I like Apollo more than Phoenix. He's adorable, but I'm waiting to know a bit more about him. To be honest, it took me a while to really warm up to Phoenix. But Apollo is too cute to not want to squish. :minuki:

And I know there's been a lot of talk about Apollo being overshadowed in his own game, but...at the same time, I hope that indicates that there are secrets in his past worth saving. Maybe he'll get a case in GS5 as important to him as DL-6 was to Edgeworth. They've already kind of set him up for it...

Spoiler: "4-4"

MoronSonOfBoron · Post by **MoronSonOfBoron** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 12:54 am

Spoiler: GS4

Post by **Wooster** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 1:03 am

I fell in love with Odoroki with his slogans and seeming to have more fire in his personality then Phoenix. He seems to have everything going for him that Phoenix lacks. If he holds up my expectations when I play his game may be another story... I actually hope I'll love him more then Phoenix.

... if only he'd get a proper objection pose. His inky dinky finger just isn't in your face.

DetectiveTomDamron · Post by **DetectiveTomDamron** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 1:14 am

Wooster wrote:I fell in love with Odoroki with his slogans and seeming to have more fire in his personality then Phoenix. He seems to have everything going for him that Phoenix lacks. If he holds up my expectations when I play his game may be another story... I actually hope I'll love him more then Phoenix.

... if only he'd get a proper objection pose. His inky dinky finger just isn't in your face.

doubt it if they even try to fix that one....but isnt he shorter in stature than phoenix anyway? :eh?:

Underload · Post by **Underload** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 1:19 am

I agree with most of the above statements.

Apollo's objection is great, but I still won't ever get over the 'Objection' firefight you used to see with Phoenix and...say, Edgeworth? I can have that 'Objection' barrage looping in my head, no problem. I just can't imagine the same feeling with Apollo's objection.

Apollo looks much younger than Phoenix, so you can believe that he's smart for his age. Phoenix looks more 'seasoned', even in his first game.

The fact that Capcom made Apollo a lot more laid back looking and 'cool' makes me happy. Giving him brown hair (which is a thumbs up in my book), a breezy vest, and rolled up sleeves made me giddy.

Some people bitch and moan about Apollo's game being overshadowed by Phoenix's story, but I personally believe that was necessary. Who wants a fresh start with Apollo, and just leave the first 3 games in the dust? I still see people complaining that Phoenix's story was left as a cliffhanger. Where's Maya? Where's Pearl? Where's Edgeworth? Where's Fransizka? You understand, don't you?