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Knight's Tale was pure fluff, but Brokeback Mountain was incredible. This is just so wrong - he hadn't even reached 30 yet!

I'm going back to scans_daily for discussions on this though, looks like this topic's going to become absurdist (actually, it already is; go figure).
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RufusLLS wrote:
Batman? I heard that was finished.
But you know Celebs die in 3's.
Ike Turner
Suvanny Pleshette
and now Heath Ledger.

And here I'd thought that Bobby Fischer's death last week had appeased the Triadic Gods of Celebrity Demise. -_-

Poor Ledger, he was quite young. RIP.
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Oh, so he wasn't actually found in Mary Kate's apartment.

Dammit. :( That would have been crazy.
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This is just so wrong - he hadn't even reached 30 yet!


Eddie Guerrero hadn't even been 40 when he died! I don't think "age" favours the drugged, or the suicidal.
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People die.

Sad thing it is too when they're not massivly old.

Sounds like it was an accidental overdose... EDIT: as in the news said it was.

.............

I' sorry but how can you "ACCIDENTLY OVERDOSE"?? Unless your mentally retarded and don't read instructions on your medication.

Since I render that impossible. I say he punched his own ticket.
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RufusLLS wrote:
Batman? I heard that was finished.
But you know Celebs die in 3's.
Ike Turner
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and now Heath Ledger.


You forgot Brad Renfro.

Even younger, even less promise fulfilled.
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People die.

Sad thing it is too when they're not massivly old.

Sounds like it was an accidental overdose... EDIT: as in the news said it was.

.............

I' sorry but how can you "ACCIDENTLY OVERDOSE"?? Unless your mentally retarded and don't read instructions on your medication.

Since I render that impossible. I say he punched his own ticket.

if you have a motive to throw at me then say so now :)

*thinks to himself* I think im going to look over the facts again.
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Actually there is a couple things that were bothering me...


1) Does he sleep in the nude
2) What he said about dying and living on in your children
3) Why would he be lying face down at the FOOT of the bed...
4) If two sleeping pills worked for only an hour...and it was accidental overdose...then he couldve overdosed by just trying to get some sleep

I think number 2 & 4 might be a possible theory for suicide.

(sorry for editing so much :payne: )
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Why does 1) worry you? LOL

I don't get a suicide vibe off of this, personally. But I expect more information will be forthcoming in due course.

I'm not sure what world IR Unorthodox lives in, but people overdose on or mix up medication all the time, and particularly if they aren't lifelong users.
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Why does 1) worry you? LOL

Because if it was natural that he sleeps nude than it wouldnt bother me but I DONT know that XD and for some reason im hinting foul play that the police isnt...maybe its my paranoid side coming out *shrug*
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Actually there is a couple things that were bothering me...


1) Does he sleep in the nude
2) What he said about dying and living on in your children
3) Why would he be lying face down at the FOOT of the bed...
4) If two sleeping pills worked for only an hour...and it was accidental overdose...then he couldve overdosed by just trying to get some sleep

I think number 2 & 4 might be a possible theory for suicide.

(sorry for editing so much :payne: )


I believe you're thinking a little too hard here. Remember this is just what's leaked to the press, and what they make out of it is often a whole different story anyway. I'm sure there are people who know better, and will give out just as much information as they feel they need to.
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Also, lets be honest here, they're not gonna just come out and say "HEATH WAS MURDERED!!!" immediately anyways. Too much to the public. :oops:
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Why does 1) worry you? LOL

Because if it was natural that he sleeps nude than it wouldnt bother me but I DONT know that XD and for some reason im hinting foul play that the police isnt...maybe its my paranoid side coming out *shrug*


Y'know, I've said this before on here, but in my experience most single men in their 20s or older who live alone sleep in the nude. It would be more natural for him to sleep nude than not. Like Ethed said, I think you're reading a bit much into stuff.

(I will note though that if he intended to kill himself it's probable he would have made an effort not to be naked, which lends credence to accidental death).
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I thought he was a great actor! It's kind of like James Dean, being really talented, but dying young. It really is a shame. Sadness all around :sadshoe:
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A bit late, soz but @TomDamron: Isn't knowing Mary Kate a pretty good reason? To be in the same scentence as her might be enough to push over.

Or maybe he heard yesterday that the flat might be hers. *shudder* Poor, Poor man.

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DetectiveTomDamron wrote:
Actually there is a couple things that were bothering me...


1) Does he sleep in the nude
2) What he said about dying and living on in your children
3) Why would he be lying face down at the FOOT of the bed...
4) If two sleeping pills worked for only an hour...and it was accidental overdose...then he couldve overdosed by just trying to get some sleep

I think number 2 & 4 might be a possible theory for suicide.

(sorry for editing so much :payne: )


Regarding 3), I read somewhere they laid him down on the floor in an attempt to resusitate him, but he was originally lying on top of the bed... or something. :yuusaku:

Is there any news on the autopsy report yet? *just woke up*
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Ugh. That final line reminds me of my reaction with the Benoit incident...

But to answer, I haven't heard anything. Has anyone else?
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They're saying something about pneumonia, aren't they?
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Some article said they need to do further testing, which could take up to 10 days.. so we might not really know for sure until then.
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Now that am awake, I just read the posts in both pages and must remember to NOT depend on anti-anxiety prescribed medicine.
I better find a safer way to overcome my anxiety disorder. Else I might end like him too :larry:
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He wasn't "doing drugs," he had prescription anti-anxiety pills--the cause of death seems most likely to be accidental overdose, possibly caused by either drug mixing (as in, the two didn't agree) or possibly his having a cold, which caused a reaction to the drugs.

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This sucks. Young talent, washed down the freaking drain.
This'll also be a bit awkward because I've been meaning to finish watching Brokeback Mountain, and now the whole time I'll be thinking "Ah, man..one of these guys is dead now." It'll be extremely uncomfortable.
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DetectiveTomDamron wrote:
Actually there is a couple things that were bothering me...


1) Does he sleep in the nude
2) What he said about dying and living on in your children
3) Why would he be lying face down at the FOOT of the bed...
4) If two sleeping pills worked for only an hour...and it was accidental overdose...then he couldve overdosed by just trying to get some sleep

I think number 2 & 4 might be a possible theory for suicide.

(sorry for editing so much :payne: )

Not to mention him refusing jobs and those pills scattered on the floor.

Possibly it was planned.
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DetectiveTomDamron wrote:
Actually there is a couple things that were bothering me...


1) Does he sleep in the nude
2) What he said about dying and living on in your children
3) Why would he be lying face down at the FOOT of the bed...
4) If two sleeping pills worked for only an hour...and it was accidental overdose...then he couldve overdosed by just trying to get some sleep

I think number 2 & 4 might be a possible theory for suicide.

(sorry for editing so much :payne: )

Not to mention him refusing jobs and those pills scattered on the floor.

Possibly it was planned.


There were no pills scattered on the floor, they were in containers.
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News tells of Ledger's kindness, how sad his father is, and how his two year old daughter will be left without a father. And then they talk of the people that have the nerve to picket at a [censored] FUNERAL. It's disrespect to the dead, that's what it is.

All because he played a gay in a movie (which he won multiple awards for, ironically).

Rest in peace, Heath Ledger. You were a terrific actor.
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According to him, the role of The Joker was starting to affect him, because it was such a dark role. He said that he couldn't sleep at all when he was doing that role, so he started taking sleeping tablets.

Me and my Dad heard it on the news though, so...
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They're saying something about pneumonia, aren't they?


Yes, and frankly if he was on meds for that I can totally see how he might end up mixing prescription drugs by accident.

I've seen people on meds for pneumonia. It's like a legal high. I wouldn't let them near anything that required common sense or judgement. But you know, pills seem to get dished out like sweeties if you're rich enough.
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According to him, the role of The Joker was starting to affect him, because it was such a dark role. He said that he couldn't sleep at all when he was doing that role, so he started taking sleeping tablets.


Yeah he was a bit of a method actor, but I wouldn't put too much store by that being any reason to do himself in. It's not uncommon for actors and writers who create in a particular way to have that sort of physical reaction.
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Apparantly though, it continued after his role was completed...

But again, it's the news. It's kind've like getting info from Wikipedia and expecting it to always be real.
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You know, I heard about someone dying on the set or some movie. I can't remember whether or not it was batman (Ledger being the Joker and all, you know. gun backfires, destroys face or something, i dunno). But Ledger at the foot of his bed dead? Sounds like he must've been alive quite some time before his death. It wouldn't make sense if the sleeping pills or meds killed him UNLESS he managed to live sometime after that.
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So many Australian deaths recently... *sniffles*

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Like I said somewhere else--it's very, very easy to accidentally OD on sleeping pills. It's even easier to do it when you are sick and/or have scrip psych meds.

All it takes is either forgetting that you already had a dose, getting a bad reaction, or waking up sleepy and grabbing the wrong bottle.

And I can tell you that it's easy because I've come close to not being here myself because of them. It is why I no longer take sleeping pills even though I am a mild insomniac and have chronic nightmares--and have not done since the second year (2008 will be the seventh).
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