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Re: Phoenix Write (case creation program)

Thu May 03, 2007 9:26 pm

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I'd like to be a (beta)tester, like it was said, the other case maker does have few bugs.

Re: Phoenix Write (case creation program)

Thu May 03, 2007 9:26 pm

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Don't worry. I hope there'll be few bugs to squash anyway. Important news, everyone. I'm going on holiday with my girlfriend and her family for four days tomorrow. I won't be able to spend too much time online, but as she has to revise a couple of hours every day I can use that time to come online.

Edit: Wow, startled me LinkV. Sure, you can test. Do you use any form of IM?

Re: Phoenix Write (case creation program)

Thu May 03, 2007 9:33 pm

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Eh, may as well sign up for the beta test. I've got some experience in this area.

I'll add you on MSN.

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Re: Phoenix Write (case creation program)

Thu May 03, 2007 9:35 pm

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Case Creator + RPG Maker XP style design and organisation = definate intriguement. I am a more modern day RPG Maker user (you should try out the RMXP demo sometime, it's definatly a neat program, especially with the addition of an optional scripting language), and I can say that your presentation resembles that of RPG Maker in terms of organisation and apparent simplicity. ^^

Let's see if the religion deserves it's preaching*, I too would like to become a beta tester for this. I run Windows XP with a GeForce 7 series graphics card. I won't be able to start on the weekend as my computer is getting redone with (hopefully) some more RAM and a reinstallation.

*Master of metaphors I am. >.>

Props to Clicky for the avatar! =3

Re: Phoenix Write (case creation program)

Thu May 03, 2007 9:37 pm

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Boltstorm: Sure, it's great to have varying experience with all my testers. After all, I need to know if somebody with little experience of Windows finds it easy as opposed to somebody who's very familiar with any kind of program.

So, I've got plenty of experienced testers now. If anybody feels they're not very proficient with Windows or computers at all, they're still very welcome.

SailorTaurus: Yeah, you can be a beta tester. Phoenix

Thanks for the comments. I didn't know it resembled RPG Maker so much, especially considering that screenshot is so incomplete. I'll give RPG Maker XP a go and see what its interface offers. And oh, following my religion has its advantages. Gymshoe

Full keyboard insurance if you lose your temper*. Glad to have another tester - please add me on Messenger or Skype.

p.s. Don't worry about the dates. I'm away for a few days and I'll only be showing footage for now. I don't like releasing incomplete work so the actual beta test may be a while off - unless I rush. I won't. Gant

*Not necessarily true.

Re: Phoenix Write (case creation program)

Thu May 03, 2007 9:56 pm

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Well, to save you some time, here are the resemblances I can muster:

1. In RPG Maker, all major aspects of the game are sorted into tabs, such as Heroes, Monsters, Weapons, Attacks, System (title screen and game over, etc), all with their own options, similar to how you've organised your maker's main sections.

Well, that's really all I can muster. xD
But trust me, taking references from pre-existing programs (heck, I see the whole 'windows within windows' thing from MMF2 made it there) is a good way to learn about what works best.

Oh, a question, will we be able to replace the Objection/Hold It/Take That animations with our own? And will we be able to add news ones (like Odokori's "RIGHT THERE!")?

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Re: Phoenix Write (case creation program)

Thu May 03, 2007 10:03 pm

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Hmm, I didn't consider that feature you mentioned at the bottom, but thanks for mentioning it. I'll certainly implement it. Also, that's only the data management window. It's for dealing with all custom data (images, sound, etc.), though I'm sure you figured that out. There'll be many 'child'* windows though for dealing with different things, like the courtroom, cutscenes, and the simple method of programming, just to name a few.

I strongly encourage any suggestions. They'll help make Phoenix Write a great program. I hate to ask this again, but do you use Skype/MSN?

*Whenever I say child window, it's a technical term for one of the smaller windows inside the main window. The main window is the parent.

Re: Phoenix Write (case creation program)

Thu May 03, 2007 10:28 pm

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I use both actually, but prefer to use Skype for close friends. I will add you onto MSN tomorrow.

Props to Clicky for the avatar! =3

Re: Phoenix Write (case creation program)

Fri May 04, 2007 1:05 am

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-Stares at screenshot-

This looks amazing. ^^ I, like, totally can't wait. I respect everyone that puts effort into making casemakers because i'm too stupid to ever do something like that.

Re: Phoenix Write (case creation program)

Fri May 04, 2007 1:31 am

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Things I am looking forward to for this case creation program:

- Easy/Simple to use scripting.
- Investigation system.
- Testimoney/Cross-Examination process.
- Option to select Exclamation '!' or '[_Bar_]' pentalty system.
- Able to import own custom characters/backgrounds, and scrolling scenary.
- Able to select more than one evidence.
- Psyche-Lock feature (?)
- Able to create small questions with a 'yes' or no', or a multiple choice answer.
- Case select screen & unlock cases, ala Phoenix Wright style. (other words combine 5 or 10 fan cases into one game).

Good luck with your version. Mechabowser's case maer isn't satisfying me for the time being, until he has made all the other features for his case maker.

Re: Phoenix Write (case creation program)

Fri May 04, 2007 6:24 am

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There's also the fact that even though it may have bugs, we're getting it early because we test. So therefore all testers have a headstart on the competition.

Re: Phoenix Write (case creation program)

Fri May 04, 2007 7:11 am

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So, I've got plenty of experienced testers now. If anybody feels they're not very proficient with Windows or computers at all, they're still very welcome.

That's what I wanted to hear!

Although I'm reasonably computer-literate (you really have to be to even find this topic), I'm more into the writing side of fandom and actually creating games is definitely something new to me. Obviously, a user-friendly PW case maker would be a dream come true. I'm up for beta testing.

Re: Phoenix Write (case creation program)

Fri May 04, 2007 7:14 am

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I'll join...

Re: Phoenix Write (case creation program)

Fri May 04, 2007 7:50 am

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Hmm... I would also join the beta group (adds you in MSN)

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Re: Phoenix Write (case creation program)

Fri May 04, 2007 9:02 am

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Heh, lots of replies. This is cool. I'm on a train and using my laptop with broadband speeds thanks to my satellite Internet (though it disconnects if I go under a bridge Sadshoe

).

It's a bit of a bumpy ride, so let me edit this post and reply to all of you. Gymshoe

1010 wrote:

-Stares at screenshot-

This looks amazing. ^^ I, like, totally can't wait. I respect everyone that puts effort into making casemakers because i'm too stupid to ever do something like that.

Thanks a lot for your kind words. Phoenix

I'm sure you have the intelligence to do these things though!

N-Mario wrote:

Things I am looking forward to for this case creation program:

- Easy/Simple to use scripting.
- Investigation system.
- Testimoney/Cross-Examination process.
- Option to select Exclamation '!' or '[_Bar_]' pentalty system.
- Able to import own custom characters/backgrounds, and scrolling scenary.
- Able to select more than one evidence.
- Psyche-Lock feature (?)
- Able to create small questions with a 'yes' or no', or a multiple choice answer.
- Case select screen & unlock cases, ala Phoenix Wright style. (other words combine 5 or 10 fan cases into one game).

Good luck with your version. Mechabowser's case maer isn't satisfying me for the time being, until he has made all the other features for his case maker.

Thanks. I've already planned most of the things you said. Though I don't know if scripting will be in it - because PWrite will be far easier and still allow so much customisation. Moe

Fleeka wrote:

There's also the fact that even though it may have bugs, we're getting it early because we test. So therefore all testers have a headstart on the competition.

Yes, of course. I'd like you all to get used to the program when I do release the beta.

Crisis wrote:

Quote:

So, I've got plenty of experienced testers now. If anybody feels they're not very proficient with Windows or computers at all, they're still very welcome.

That's what I wanted to hear!

Although I'm reasonably computer-literate (you really have to be to even find this topic), I'm more into the writing side of fandom and actually creating games is definitely something new to me. Obviously, a user-friendly PW case maker would be a dream come true. I'm up for beta testing.

Sure. You're in. Will Powers

Harry Miste wrote:

I'll join...

Okay.

Yoshizu wrote:

Hmm... I would also join the beta group (adds you in MSN)

All right. :)

---

So, still gotta count the amount of places remaining. I'll do that now! So I'm on a train, travelling at high speeds, listening to PW music, browsing Court Records and discussing my case maker. Does that make me a big Phoenix Wright fan? Matt

Edit: That's all ten! All places taken up. Detective Gumshoe

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Re: Phoenix Write (case creation program)

Fri May 04, 2007 9:33 am

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I'll be ripping more Orchestral music for you today, before I go off to Folkestone for the Bank holiday. (I <3 seeing my relatives ^_^, but there isn't any computers there). I still need that list of the tracks you've already got tho Shaun. But I have for you already Gumshoes theme, Search~ intro and Search~Core. I should have the psyche lock theme, All three objection themes, and the JFA court music ripped and looped for you :)

Re: Phoenix Write (case creation program)

Fri May 04, 2007 9:39 am

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Sorry, I'll post them now. It's kinda hard to do this; my back really hurts and my laptop's toasting my legs off. But here's what I've done.

- Gyakuten Sisters Orchestral
- Main courtroom with intro and loop, fully working

I tried Great Revival a while back but it was difficult. My main music concern right now is finding a tracker. And nobody probably knows what I'm going on about there.

Re: Phoenix Write (case creation program)

Fri May 04, 2007 9:52 am

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I mean, what did I send you? I think I sent you Cornered. I've also got Investigation Allegro and ... the slower one :F I split the orchestral bit in half, ones more dramatic than the other.

Re: Phoenix Write (case creation program)

Fri May 04, 2007 10:09 am

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Yes, it was Cornered that you sent me. You may have sent me another but I can't remember. I think it was just Cornered. Maybe you can send me the files tonight. Phoenix

Re: Phoenix Write (case creation program)

Fri May 04, 2007 11:05 am

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I'm another one jumping on the beta test bandwagon. I am proficient with both Windows and Multimedia Fusion, so I feel I'd be good for the job. I added you on MSN.

Re: Phoenix Write (case creation program)

Fri May 04, 2007 11:34 am

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I would like to beta test although I doubt the creator will allow me to.

Regardless I am contactable via MSN. If you are interested in me doing it, PM me as I don't make public of my MSN address.

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Re: Phoenix Write (case creation program)

Fri May 04, 2007 11:44 am

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If there's places left I'd like to Beta test. I tried MechaBowsers and it was too complicated for me. No offense Mecha, I'd really like to see what this can do. I also have another PC running Windows 98 so i could test how compatible it is with that, if you wanted to give me a specific task. I also have Windows ME. I won't add you on msn until you say I should though.

Re: Phoenix Write (case creation program)

Fri May 04, 2007 11:54 am

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Urk, didn't you guys read what I said..? Ah, well... I guess I can up the amount a little bit. Fifteen in total. You're all in. Two places remain. If you haven't added me on Messenger I suggest you do so. This applies to all beta testers.

Thank you. Phoenix

Re: Phoenix Write (case creation program)

Fri May 04, 2007 12:46 pm

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I'll be a beta tester.

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Re: Phoenix Write

Fri May 04, 2007 2:08 pm

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Gerkuman wrote:

Now THAT looks profesional :)

The hell D: <

Re: Phoenix Write (case creation program)

Fri May 04, 2007 2:25 pm

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Tell me what on earth I said that was wrong. I said his looked professional, I didn't say anything about yours. Are you getting Paranoid MechB? :P

Re: Phoenix Write (case creation program)

Fri May 04, 2007 2:51 pm

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Gerkuman wrote:

Are you getting Paranoid MechB? :P

Well you sorta said it indirectly by going all "Now THIS".
Also, I don't see anything Phoenix Wright in this, only a Window with a few buttons - elsewise being plain empty.

Re: Phoenix Write (case creation program)

Fri May 04, 2007 2:55 pm

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MechaBowser wrote:

Gerkuman wrote:

Are you getting Paranoid MechB? :P

Well you sorta said it indirectly by going all "Now THIS".
Also, I don't see anything Phoenix Wright in this, only a Window with a few buttons - elsewise being plain empty.

I like the overall design in Shauns then yours, if I have to say so. Your design is way too limiting, really...

Re: Phoenix Write (case creation program)

Fri May 04, 2007 3:07 pm

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Oh. I didn't mean to put it like that MB. It's not that yours doesn't look professional, it's more that the interface looks more... Windowsy :F I find it easier to work with it, but others would prefer your way of doing it ^_^

Also, all will become clear on the design front. He just hasn't put the bits inside it first :F I think he's doing each tab serperatly, then adding it into the main bit.

Re: Phoenix Write (case creation program)

Fri May 04, 2007 3:25 pm

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Add me to the Beta testers

Re: Phoenix Write (case creation program)

Fri May 04, 2007 4:53 pm

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I wouldn't mind being one of your beta testers..... Or do you have enough already? Detective Gumshoe

Re: Phoenix Write (case creation program)

Fri May 04, 2007 5:18 pm

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MechaBowser wrote:

Gerkuman wrote:

Are you getting Paranoid MechB? :P

Well you sorta said it indirectly by going all "Now THIS".
Also, I don't see anything Phoenix Wright in this, only a Window with a few buttons - elsewise being plain empty.

Maybe that's why his isn't finished yet and yours is. Don't criticise it so early in the creation process, there's no point to it.

Re: Phoenix Write (case creation program)

Fri May 04, 2007 6:04 pm

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Hey, that looks awesome, Shaun! Well, I quess I have enough experience to say that, what I see is professional work.
I think that those places went already.
But, if there is any places left, I'll be around here to beta-test.

And this is my first post around here. Yay. ^^

Re: Phoenix Write (case creation program)

Fri May 04, 2007 10:04 pm

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any more space for a tester =[ ?
mechabowsers creator is too buggy and featureless...

Re: Phoenix Write (case creation program)

Fri May 04, 2007 11:37 pm

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Yeah, I'll be happy to try and test this for you, and offer my oppinion on how well I think the layout is for the user :)

Re: Phoenix Write (case creation program)

Sat May 05, 2007 12:06 am

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I added you, but you haven't been on all day....

Re: Phoenix Write (case creation program)

Sat May 05, 2007 12:30 am

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Wait..... I have to add him to my msn/whatever list to beta test this thing? Eh?

Re: Phoenix Write (case creation program)

Sat May 05, 2007 10:04 am

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...I don't come here for three days, I miss the ten beta tester spots, then Shaun's kind enough to expand it even more, and I miss that.
:Zenny

Ha, Shaun, your heart would be as big as a clown's shoes if you would include me, as well. Sorry for the joke, but seriously, I'm not going to beg you - but I'm here if one of the testers quits or something.
...Like that'll ever happen.

Anyway, MechaBowser, while you're on a good track, your current release feels way too incomplete for me to even think about using it.
That's part of the reason I support Shaun - although he'll take longer, most flash developers who take longer and delay their games usually end up the better one.

Shaun, hope you have fun on your holidays. =)
Where are you going?

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Re: Phoenix Write (case creation program)

Sat May 05, 2007 8:37 pm

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Sorry if anybody was expecting me to post promptly. I have indeed been on holiday. Gymshoe

You should read my posts more. Back to my usual quoting business... Oh, before I start, because there were members who I kinda wanted as beta testers in the first place, and it would be unfair to choose individuals, I'm letting everyone who has asked here be a beta tester. But that is it now - no more.

CrawdKenny wrote:

I'll be a beta tester.

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MAN? MSN?

All right, like I said, everyone who posted can...

MechaBowser wrote:

The hell D: <

I really didn't expect such outburts from you.

MechaBowser wrote:

Gerkuman wrote:

Are you getting Paranoid MechB? :P

Well you sorta said it indirectly by going all "Now THIS".
Also, I don't see anything Phoenix Wright in this, only a Window with a few buttons - elsewise being plain empty.

Now now, I've already designed a lot of the forms and done the programming. Just because they're not shown in a screenshot doesn't mean they don't exist. Sal

I think a 'window' is somewhat better than five windows stacked on top of one another anyway. April May

HyperJerk wrote:

Add me to the Beta testers

Done.

N-Mario wrote:

I wouldn't mind being one of your beta testers..... Or do you have enough already? Detective Gumshoe

Like said at the top, I've accepted you all now (just in case you didn't read it). No more testers now though. Detective Gumshoe

Matt wrote:

Maybe that's why his isn't finished yet and yours is. Don't criticise it so early in the creation process, there's no point to it.

Thanks.

I understand if anyone has a few doubts though. I haven't really shown too much. There's no excuse for such bashing though. Sadshoe

The fact I haven't shown much obviously means there's a lot I haven't revealed yet. I've said this so many times: I don't like showing my hand to people without reason.

Fippe wrote:

Hey, that looks awesome, Shaun! Well, I quess I have enough experience to say that, what I see is professional work.
I think that those places went already.
But, if there is any places left, I'll be around here to beta-test.

And this is my first post around here. Yay. ^^

Thank you. Welcome. Phoenix

Mikker wrote:

Yeah, I'll be happy to try and test this for you, and offer my oppinion on how well I think the layout is for the user :)

Glad to have ya. Will Powers

Michael Jackson wrote:

...I don't come here for three days, I miss the ten beta tester spots, then Shaun's kind enough to expand it even more, and I miss that.
:Zenny

Ha, Shaun, your heart would be as big as a clown's shoes if you would include me, as well. Sorry for the joke, but seriously, I'm not going to beg you - but I'm here if one of the testers quits or something.
...Like that'll ever happen.

Anyway, MechaBowser, while you're on a good track, your current release feels way too incomplete for me to even think about using it.
That's part of the reason I support Shaun - although he'll take longer, most flash developers who take longer and delay their games usually end up the better one.

Shaun, hope you have fun on your holidays. =)
Where are you going?

Well, apparently I must be really generous now; I've expanded it further, as you probably read. Redd White

While I have expanded the amount of testers I'm allowing (no more now anyway) I don't like it. Because when I release a beta executable, the more testers, the higher chance of a leak. Thanks for your thoughtful post MJ. I once said I was thinking of giving up on Phoenix Write, but with the support I now have I feel more powerful than ever. Gymshoe

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Re: Phoenix Write (case creation program)

Sat May 05, 2007 8:54 pm

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I'm really looking forward to this. Good luck on it!

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