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Nah, too cliched. Ya need something catchy.


"Nothing In The Dark"

Because Krissi imagines everything.

"Sometimes the worst things that go bumb in the night... don't."

I also like "The Devil Does Exist"...
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I think I got it!

Kristoph: "Death won't matter. You haven't seen the end of my life yet"
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most evil....most evil...
I'd put Kristoph and Dahlia at the top of the list probably tied.

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i would say Dahlia becasue she was just cold blooded and evil
Then Krissi coz he just did it for pride and wanting to become famous and when that didnt happened he sought revenge and he did it very well in my opinion he ruined alot of lives 2
Then manfred killing Gregory then turning his son into a mean vicuos prosacutor
They are my top 3
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It would not be Kristoph, because he was not as maniacal
at the start. It all happened because of one small
thing. Look at his brother! Man!
Damon Gant, I just like the name.
I don't like Dahlia Hawthrone
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Dahlia Hawthorne tops my list. She's really EVIL. She definitely gave everyone hell. Also probably why for me, T&T was the best. Kristoph and Manfred tie in 2nd. No, maybe I'll just make Manfred 3rd because Kristoph's more good looking. Damon Gant is last because he really has this nice smile. XD
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i vote for krissi...his crime caused 7 long years of torture for everyone. 7 long years of drew worrying over Vera, 7 long years of phoenix in pain and loss, 7 long years of klavier being in painful doubt and shadow of that case, 7 long years of fear and insecurity within his own heart which slowly eroded at what's left of his sanity...

i CAN'T think of a more psychologically torturing and painful crime...thus he's the biggest villain, to everyone around him, and to himself...
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As much as I hate the fact that von Karma spawned the DL-6 incident, and in turn, the Fey family problems; and Redd for killing Mia and making things worse; and Morgan for plotting to kill the main bloodline of the Feys probably even before von Karma did anything, I can't go with them. I also can't go with Kristoph, even though he tried to murder at least 3 people and succeeded in two of them.

I will go with Daryand Cresend. Even though his intentions were good (we think) (getting the cocoon for the kid in the hospital), he still endangered Klavier by hiding the cocoon in his guitar, and then tried to frame Machi, a child, for it, because he was an accomplice. He then killed LeTouse, and framed Machi for that, because he caught on, and acted like a dick all on top of that.

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I vote Kristoph.

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Not only he tried to poison a 12-year-old girl BY ALL MEANS POSSIBLE, he watched over the backs of everyone for 7 long years, waiting in the shadows to strike down and KILL. I mean, if someone was able to pinpoint the whereabouts of Shadi Enigmar, it was HIM. If anyone could watch over Vera, it was HIM. If anyone would turn a second glance over Spark Brushel as a potential threat, it was HIM. If anyone actually considered killing Phoenix Wright as a good idea, it was HIM.


Place two goes, obviously, to Dahlia.

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She may have failed her plans, yes, but she actually WANTED to do everything she planned. Killing her step-sister as revenge against her step-father, stealing the diamond, using Fawles, using Phoenix and actually planning to kill him when rendered useless, and worst of all, ruining, on purpose, her mother's plan to her advantage, not mattering how many died in the process, was indeed awful.


Place three is a tie between Damon Gant and Manfred von Karma.

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They're actually quite similar, as both desired power. Power over many people. Gant killed and blackmailed to have Lana eating from his hand, even making her fear her own sister. Manfred killed Gregory because that was the smear on his power, Not even imagining the consequences it would have for everyone involved, and even everyone not yet involved.


I don't actually think Matt Engarde is one of the big evils in the game, he just thought he could get all he wanted. Shelly de Killer isn't exactly evil, it's quite weird, as he only kills those he's supposed to kill, or those who threaten the de Killer line.

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He did let Maya off, even if Maya had seen his face already.

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:chinami: or :garyuu: or :damon: or :karma: or :tea: or :mattphone: ?

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1. Kristoph Gavin definitely. And didn't he have those black psyche-locks?
2. Dahlia Hawthorne, like Kristoph, was guilty in two cases.
3.Manfred Von Karma, he would do anything to get a guilty verdict.
4. Damon Gant, he butchered two people.
5. Matt Engarde, you know why!
6. Morgan Fey, I personally think she's not as evil as the people above.


Actually, De killer wasn't evil that much, he just obeyed other people's wishes.
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Okay, my vote. Out of people in the games I've played, the first two, I'd have to say:
Spoiler: AA and T&T
Redd White. He's worse than both Gant and Manfred, in my opinion. He was a heartless man who blackmailed hundereds of people and pushed them to suicide, for nothing but personal profit. Second place- Manfred, then Matt Engarde, Morgan and Gant in that order. I didn't consider anyone else to be "evil" in the first two games. And I really didn't think of Gant as that evil. Yes, he was cruel to Lana and commited two murders, but at least he was a good man until greed took him, which is more than I can say for the other four.

Anyway, those are my thoughts.
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Interesting topic.

I'd say
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Shelly de Killer is the most evil, because he somehow manages to make you believe that he is principled, while all he does is kill people. He doesn't even protect anyone in return. His code of trust is particularly twisted ; morally speaking it doesn't change anything. Of course you could say that his clients are the true murderers, but let's think about it for a second. Would they actually do it if they didn't have help of a hitman? I believe at least some wouldn't. Therefore he turns people with murderous desires into real murderers.

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My three are Redd (if he never existed the games would've been ALOT different...), Morgan, and Kristoph. :igarashi:
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I'm on the fence between three characters; Manfred von Karma, Dahlia Hawthorne, and Kristoph Gavin.
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Manfred von Karma is a horrible excuse for a human being that took a man's life and warped the man's son's mind, all because of his freakish "pride" (if you can call whatever is wrong with that demon "pride").

Dahlia is a (I can't think of a word bad enough to describe her). She deserved the death sentence. She attempted murder TWICE (I think) and felt no remorse. She deserves no pity.

Kristoph Gavin.
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What else can I say?

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Hmmmmmmmm...

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I'll say Gant. All the villains had pretty good plans, but Gant's takes the cake. He quite literally waltzes into his office, sees the scene, and forms an extremely good plan to seize control of the Police Force in a minute. Even if you think someone else is more evil, Gant was the smartest and most logical.
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definitely dahlia. proved with :fire: scene
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and the fact that 5 people died because of her, 2 personally killed by her

kristoph is probably second
then von Karma
engarde
gant
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everything he did was just for power, instead of just because he could kill them

morgan
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never personally killed anyone, and just wanted to gain back her honor in the fey clan through pearl.

everyone of those people is evil, but personally, gant was likeable, and deep down, a good man...
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Okay, my vote. Out of people in the games I've played, the first two, I'd have to say:
Spoiler: AA and T&T
Redd White. He's worse than both Gant and Manfred, in my opinion. He was a heartless man who blackmailed hundereds of people and pushed them to suicide, for nothing but personal profit. Second place- Manfred, then Matt Engarde, Morgan and Gant in that order. I didn't consider anyone else to be "evil" in the first two games. And I really didn't think of Gant as that evil. Yes, he was cruel to Lana and commited two murders, but at least he was a good man until greed took him, which is more than I can say for the other four.

Anyway, those are my thoughts.


QBITLTT. Quoted because I'm too lazy to type. And because it reflects my opinion almost perfectly. Just kick Enguarde out of the list. I don't consider him evil. An insane wastebasket, okay, I give him that. But he lacks the downright evilness.

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Hmmms...

I'm gonna have to say Kristoph as number 1,

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Simply because he scares the heck out of me. When I started playing AJ, I nearly screamed when he came on the screen for the first time "GET AWAY FROM ME YOU EVIL MAAAN SOB SOB"
(ok, not quite like that)


Next is Dahlia,

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I won't go into the details, she just deserves a good spiritual spanking from Mia. c:


Next is cross between Gant/von Karma

And as for Matt?

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Yes, he's very evil, but it's ok. He just needs therapy.

:matt: ......I need what now??!!
Me: ...I said nothing. *runs away*

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I'm going for Gant, seeing as he callously murdered Neil Marshall, and then helped forge evidence that got an innocent man (as far as Neil Marshall's death is concerned) the death penalty.
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