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Re: Von Karma: Corrupt Attorney

Mon Jun 02, 2008 5:12 am

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Lynx wrote:

Winfred, Little Plum, and Bruto would ALL be in Case 2 of Game 2, if I ever made it there. It's about the Mafia. :P

That

is

AWESOME!

Re: Von Karma: Corrupt Attorney

Mon Jun 02, 2008 5:29 am

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Super Judge Bro. wrote:

Lynx wrote:

Winfred, Little Plum, and Bruto would ALL be in Case 2 of Game 2, if I ever made it there. It's about the Mafia. :P

That

is

AWESOME!

I'm going to blab about this case now, since I dunno if it'll ever get made XP

It takes place when Little Plum is about 10, so it's 1994. She's the same age as Manfred's son, Manny, which makes for a lot of fun. There's a gang turf war going on between the Kitakis and Cadaverinis. At some point, the player gets to pick whether to take Manny as the assistant, or the daughter, whose name was Olga before AJ stole that name (now I dunno O.o). Little Plum hates you if you don't have Manny (who she has a pseudo crush on, although she tells him every 5 lines that she's going to grow up and marry Winfred, who's 24 at the time :P). The Cadaverinis don't like you if you don't have Olga, who they like because she loves to sing and be generally cutesy (she actually sings freakishly loud Italian opera and makes Manfred almost pass out, but Bruto thinks it's charming because he's going deaf or something). Also, in the beginning, both Mafias try to put a hit on Manfred, since nobody's sure what side he's on. :P It would be a fun case.

I also just realized that a younger Tigre could be in it, since he'd be 20 or so. Though he's not supposed to be connected with the Mafia yet. Viola's only 1 year old, so...fail.

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Re: Von Karma: Corrupt Attorney

Mon Jun 02, 2008 7:22 am

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If Furio Tigre was in it, even for a short cameo, I would love you and this fangame forever.

Re: Von Karma: Corrupt Attorney

Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:15 pm

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Case 2 is going to be fun. :D

Thanks Elriel for the sig!

Re: Von Karma: Corrupt Attorney

Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:29 am

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Roosterofdoom wrote:

Can you release a demo soon?

Well, PWLib won't be out for a while, so, uh, no. But thanks for the interest!

Man, this is making me want to skip to game 2, but alas, the cases in Game 1 only exist because they absolutely need to :( (well, I guess they could not exist and game 2 could be 10000x more boring because you wouldn't know the major characters v. well)

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Re: Von Karma: Corrupt Attorney

Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:06 am

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The release of PWLib got me thinking about this a little bit. I don't think I want to cancel it, but I'm working on other projects and don't have enough interest in this one to bother learning a whole new programming language to make it. Since CM3 is progressing, I think I'll wait for that to come out, and then I'll release the first case of this in CM3. It won't have the drawing/evidence forging that was going to be in the original release. If I'm inspired enough, I could change over to PWLib, but right now I think I'm just going to wait (since I've already been waiting a while - what's a little more :maya:

) and use something with a shorter learning curve.

Just for anyone who's wondering.

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Re: Von Karma: Corrupt Attorney

Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:51 am

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There's been 'rumors' that Mecha canceled CM3. If that is true, what will you do?

Re: Von Karma: Corrupt Attorney

Sun Jun 15, 2008 6:16 am

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Super Judge Bro. wrote:

There's been 'rumors' that Mecha canceled CM3. If that is true, what will you do?

Judging from his topic, it's not cancelled, he's just been busy. Anyways, if it hasn't come out maybe in a month or so, I might start learning PWLib. It doesn't seem to be a very difficult language, so it won't be a very long learning curve. A lot depends on what happens with other things I'm working on. Or if I ever feel like making sprites for this again. I just got a tablet and Photoshop Elements, which I think will aid me in making both GIF animations and the sprites themselves. If I put more work into it, I might just go the whole way with PWLib. If it's July, CM3 is out, and I'm just fooling around and not working on much else, I might stick the sprites that I have in along with some old AA sprites (i.e. I'll probably end up using OldManfred and OldGant since I don't feel like doing sprite sheets of them) and make a quick case.

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Re: Von Karma: Corrupt Attorney

Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:28 pm

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You could also play around with pywright. It is less powerful and doesn't have tutorials, but is a much simpler system than pwlib. And I am working on an editor, but I'm not sure when I'll have it done. Take a look if you haven't already.

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Re: Von Karma: Corrupt Attorney

Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:39 pm

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im available for help ^_^

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thats it lol

Re: Von Karma: Corrupt Attorney

Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:41 am

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saluk wrote:

You could also play around with pywright. It is less powerful and doesn't have tutorials, but is a much simpler system than pwlib. And I am working on an editor, but I'm not sure when I'll have it done. Take a look if you haven't already.

That's true, I didn't look into it because all of the programming talk when the topic was first started scared me away. I've d/led PWLib already and will look into playing around with it. If I get bored and/or frustrated, I'll check out PyWright :)

And thanks for the offer, GenoWhirl, I'll let you know if your skills are needed!

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Re: Von Karma: Corrupt Attorney

Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:40 pm

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I'll do some programming for you. I've finished almost every tutorial for PWLib and I feel I have a good grasp of the system. I also have an idea of how the drawing system could be done, which I will be testing now. PM me if you want to talk.

Re: Von Karma: Corrupt Attorney

Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:51 pm

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I implemented a drawing thing for Lynx to use (that I used on AIGE Painter!, but i may need to do a saver if he wants to use (not complicated, just let me know)

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Re: Von Karma: Corrupt Attorney

Sun Nov 29, 2009 4:39 am

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Apologies for the necropost, but I figured that a new post would contain the same info as this one, so there wouldn't be much point in doing a new one...

I recently re-played Apollo Justice, which gave me some new ideas for this game I worked on way back when. I was curious if anyone here would still have any interest in this project. I'm in my second year of law school, and don't have an awful lot of time on my hands, but if there's a lot of interest in the game and if people are interested in contributing, I might look into starting it up again.

As far as programming, I haven't much been following the development of PWLib, though it sounds like it's continually being improved. I'd probably still be up for learning it. I'm already familiar with RPG Maker, though, and since there are a number of games made in RPG Maker, I'd definitely be interested in talking with someone who knows a little more about RGSS2 than I do about doing a PW-style game in RPG Maker.

Also, some old dialogue I found in a concept document is reproduced below for your entertainment :D

Spoiler: First day in court!

Thanks all for your feedback!
[er, mods, please let me know if you'd rather me put this in a new topic...]

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Re: Von Karma: Corrupt Attorney

Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:59 am

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Back in the day, this was one of the fangames I was looking forward to the most. I just loved the concept. I would definitely be interested in playing this. Of course, if you don't have the time, we'll all understand.

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Re: Von Karma: Corrupt Attorney

Sun Nov 29, 2009 9:27 pm

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Oh, I knew of this, even thought when I joined this was not very active either.

But after reading the concept, it certainly does sound very interesting. I'm looking forward to playing it!

Also, if you need help with coding PWLib characters, contact me via PM or e-mail (MSN, it's in my profile). For any other help on PWLib, I believe KSA_Tech will be available.

Re: Von Karma: Corrupt Attorney

Mon Nov 30, 2009 1:27 am

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Cool, thanks for the support, guys! I'm starting to think that I'll just do a bare-bones game in something like Ace Atty Online to build interest. Since it's the bare bones that I'm actually able to do, I think it makes sense just to lay out what I've got and then see if people are still interested. It'll have to wait until after finals for me (mid-December), but I think I'll get back to work on it. I just wanted to post to make sure I didn't lose my interest mid-way through finals! :P
I also have more graphics skills this time around, thanks to my trusty Wacom drawing tablet, so I might stop being thoroughly mediocre on that end, as well.

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Re: Von Karma: Corrupt Attorney

Sat Dec 12, 2009 6:33 pm

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Working in AA Online will be a great choice! You can get other members to help you if they aren't busy! Specially veteran case makers. :hobohodo:

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Re: Von Karma: Corrupt Attorney

Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:41 pm

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Bitter_Godot wrote:

Working in AA Online will be a great choice! You can get other members to help you if they aren't busy! Specially veteran case makers. :hobohodo:

Yeah, so far I've really enjoyed working with AAO :) Most of the qs I had were already answered on the forum in a very accessible manner, and it seems the mods/veterans get to qs really quickly.
The best thing about AAO is that you get to see your trial take shape as you work on it, which is nice for someone who's goal-oriented like me.

Also, for anyone wondering if I'm working on this, yes, I have been doing stuff besides making recolored sprites! I've scripted the intro and most of the first cross-exam...then I skipped around and scripted some later scenes for the fun of it, but it's coming along :P I think writing "press"es for Gant would be more entertaining if I were more into the Gant fandom...

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Re: Von Karma: Corrupt Attorney

Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:35 am

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The first part of the first trial (beta) is available!
Description on the first page of the topic.
Please let me know about any bugs you notice. I went through a couple of times, but things don't always work perfectly.

Because of how the case has multiple paths to take, I have to keep everything in one trial on AAO. The script is already really big and unwieldy, and I may need to take it down later (and I will take it down if there are a number of major bugs that I didn't catch).

I'm also planning on doing more sprite poses and re-doing the sprites for the original characters that appear. For example, von Karma needs an exasperated pose and a smug pose (the latter should be easy :redd:

). I'm also aware that the music is kind of random, since I don't like the in-court themes, usually, so I just threw in a lot of search themes.

I'm curious whether it seems to be the right level of difficulty, so tell me if you think it's too difficult or too easy!

Just so you're not disappointed, no, there is no forgery or general criminal activity this early in the game :P Wait until the next part of this trial!

Thanks for playing :)

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Re: Von Karma: Corrupt Attorney (Case 1 Part 1 Released)

Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:05 am

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A very interesting case so far. You have used the editor quite well to provide such a brilliant demo so far. The only problems I have with it so far is a lack of an introduction and introducting Nejira more. She just seems to pop out of nowhere. There is also the Udgey problem, but as you know, you have commented on my Young one so when I'm done, I can send you the sheet for them if you want to use Young Udgey.

Ptapcc

EDIT: Just remembered a small bug- in the second testimony, pressing on the gate makes Old Gant appear once during when he talks.

Re: Von Karma: Corrupt Attorney (Case 1 Part 1 Released)

Wed Dec 23, 2009 4:07 pm

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Ptapcc wrote:

A very interesting case so far. You have used the editor quite well to provide such a brilliant demo so far. The only problems I have with it so far is a lack of an introduction and introducting Nejira more. She just seems to pop out of nowhere. There is also the Udgey problem, but as you know, you have commented on my Young one so when I'm done, I can send you the sheet for them if you want to use Young Udgey.

Ptapcc

EDIT: Just remembered a small bug- in the second testimony, pressing on the gate makes Old Gant appear once during when he talks.

Thanks so much for the feedback! I knew Old Gant would make a showing somewhere...
I was never a fan of the intros in the actual AA games, so I didn't make one, but it's certainly possible.
As for Nejira, I've got some ideas. I'll see if it helps :)

Spoiler: Also, out of curiosity

Edit: Beginning court lobby scene updated with a little more dialogue, which will hopefully help.
Oh, and yeah, I'd appreciate being able to use the Young Judge sprite! :D the one I made looks like he's wearing a toupee, so it was unusable...

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Re: Von Karma: Corrupt Attorney (Case 1 Part 1 Released)

Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:34 pm

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Nejira is quite the interesting character. I played through it again and there are some definitely funny moments with her, for example.

Spoiler:

Also, in response to the path

Spoiler:

Also, great choice of music for the characters. The cross-examination music sounds iffy but it suits it really well. Also, you played Grossberg's music at the right time, so it fit perfectly.

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Re: Von Karma: Corrupt Attorney (Case 1 Part 1 Released)

Wed Dec 23, 2009 11:06 pm

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Wow, it was really great! Congratulations! What I found:

Spoiler:

Was it supposed to end before Burns would appear?

By the way, the order of the above may seem messed up, but it's because I played throught the first part twice, and chose different paths at the "recess to eat" every time.

Indeed, Nejira is quite an interesting character. I'm looking forward to more character development.

Re: Von Karma: Corrupt Attorney (Case 1 Part 1 Released)

Thu Dec 24, 2009 4:48 pm

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Those voice blips are driving me NUTS X( X( X( I've fixed so many already...
Same with the moving mouths - you can fix them, but you have to re-load a bunch of images into AAO, which doesn't always listen to "DO NOT SPEAK" as an option.

The checkpoint system is better than starting over, but it also seems to do weird things...one person got to play again and then randomly got the "The End" screen after 15 text boxes. I'll take a look at that cross-exam, though.

I've changed the end of the trial to "to be continued" rather than just "the end." Forgetfulness on my part. It's not supposed to have Burns appear, and "the end" is a good thing X)

Also, as far as using the prosecutor's badge

Spoiler: (spoilers for VKCA recess to eat)

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Re: Von Karma: Corrupt Attorney (Case 1 Part 1 Released)

Thu Dec 24, 2009 8:59 pm

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Lynx wrote:

Spoiler: (spoilers for VKCA recess to eat)

Spoiler:

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Re: Von Karma: Corrupt Attorney (Case 1 Part 1 Released)

Thu Dec 24, 2009 9:27 pm

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Re: Von Karma: Corrupt Attorney (Case 1 Part 1 Released)

Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:44 am

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Ptapcc wrote:

Lynx wrote:

Spoiler: (spoilers for VKCA recess to eat)

Spoiler:

Re: Von Karma: Corrupt Attorney (Case 1 Part 1 Released)

Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:59 am

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RandomJibberish wrote:

Ptapcc wrote:

Lynx wrote:

Spoiler: (spoilers for VKCA recess to eat)

Spoiler:

Ptapcc

Re: Von Karma: Corrupt Attorney (Case 1 Part 1 Released)

Mon Dec 28, 2009 9:02 am

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Spoiler:

Re: Von Karma: Corrupt Attorney (Case 1 Part 1 Released)

Mon Dec 28, 2009 9:06 am

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Spoiler:

Also, Lynx:

What was the music you used for cross-examining? It was quite good and reading over your summary, forging evidence is going to be like layton puzzles? blast...I always sucked at doing those...

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Re: Von Karma: Corrupt Attorney (Case 1 Part 1 Released)

Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:04 pm

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The music from the cross-exam is the Search: In the Midst theme from JFA. I have no idea where in JFA it plays, but it's in the AAO database. I liked it for cross-exam, since I thought all of the AA cross-exam themes sounded too stressful for a prosecutor :P

Forging wasn't originally going to be Professor Layton-like, but I think solving puzzles is the best proxy with stuff like tracing on the DS that I can come up with for AAO. In non-essential situations, I was planning on having an option for "I hate this. You do it, Nejira," and the result of doing that will usually be to a) cause you to spend extra time in a cross exam/get an extra cross-exam, b) hurt some variable that will affect how later cases play out, or c) (unlikely, because it's unfair) hurt you.
But there will be some more straightforward ones, too. So far, the only one I've made asks you a series of questions e.g. whose name do you want to write on this letter, what do you want to date it etc. I just don't think that's very interesting to repeat often. I'm thinking there will be different types of forging for different kinds of evidence (gun, knife, letter, other weird things).

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Re: Von Karma: Corrupt Attorney (Case 1 Part 1 Released)

Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:24 am

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Wow, this game's gonna be filled of variables XD

Anyway, I like that "multiple ways" thing, if it doesn't go as far as altering the game's plotline DRAMATICALLY every time you have to choose different ways. The DRAMATICALLY thing should be done just once, twice at max. Just sayin', so there aren't 500 alternate endings.

Re: Von Karma: Corrupt Attorney (Case 1 Part 1 Released)

Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:31 pm

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DeMatador wrote:

Wow, this game's gonna be filled of variables XD

Anyway, I like that "multiple ways" thing, if it doesn't go as far as altering the game's plotline DRAMATICALLY every time you have to choose different ways. The DRAMATICALLY thing should be done just once, twice at max. Just sayin', so there aren't 500 alternate endings.

It is loaded with variables X( And it drives me nuts in AAO; because of the interface, it's not easy to just search for which line I tied to altering which variables.

Yeah, it's mostly the same crime occurs, but you might have a different assistant (which only matters for gameplay), or a different person might show up as a witness and that person might give you a different part of the non-essential part of the story (like, you might learn different characters' backstories or something depending on what you did).
I really hate *writing* alternate endings, and I don't really like playing games with them, since I always feel like I was cheated out of a "true" ending. Also, they get really messy in AAO b/c I want to duplicate certain lines and not others :P

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Re: Von Karma: Corrupt Attorney (Case 1 Part 1 Released)

Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:29 am

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Just an FYI for anyone who tries to play this tomorrow: I'm going to take it down for a bit in order to playtest the second third of the trial. So if/when it doesn't work, that's why :P

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Re: Von Karma: Corrupt Attorney (Case 1 Part 1 Released)

Tue Jan 05, 2010 7:54 pm

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Okay, the game is back up and is now about 4/5 done. If you want to wait until the last fifth is done, go ahead, but I don't know when I'll get to doing it :P One ending is available, but the "better" ending isn't. Forging (which you need to do in order to get the good ending) takes a while to design and program. I try to avoid making art as much as possible, since I stink at it, but I'll probably need to in order to have any decent puzzles.
also, really sick of programming trials, like investigation much better, too long for a tutorial case, should have made it 2 days *grumble*

I've done some playtesting, but not a lot, so if it breaks down, I'm really sorry :S Please let me know about any glitches you find!
Also, if it's too hard, let me know. I don't like to have games that are too hard. My plan was to have hints that appear as you get further and further down on your life bar, but I haven't gotten around to implementing that yet :P

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