Re: Case Maker 3
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I do not understand
KSA: Okay, you're probably one of those open-source linux-using types. I understand this. However, I don't understand why you feel he should go through a ton of work to make his case maker intercompatible with all of the other ones.
Is it a good idea? Sure. It'd be kinda nifty cool. On the other hand, by no means is he actually /required/ to do so.
I mean, okay, if we were talking some big commercial professional project, it would probably be a remarkably good idea.
On the other hand, this is a project some guy is making out of his free time (whether or not he's actually making it, of course, is up in the air, but it's not a point.)
Do you feel Mecha does not have the right to make his casemaker if he's not as skilled a programmer as you? Do you have some need to prove you are an excellent programmer by bashing his skills? PWlib is quality. I have tried it out. I don't think I'll ever get around to making a case, honestly, because I never even finished an RPGMaker2000 game, but it seems /pretty nifty cool/. There. Your ego has been stroked.
So, uh, this MMF2 thing has plugins. I'm a little lost here, what's the problem? It seems to me that a large part of programming is about having things that help you avoid reinventing the wheel constantly. I mean, okay, it's cool to write your own engine from scratch if you're really and truly interested in optimizing to the last detail, but it seems to me that this is, again, a pet project.
At some point here I have to come to the conclusion that this is entirely some sort of massive ego-trip intellectual wanking over your realizing you're potentially better at coding than Mecha than any actual reasonable criticism. You are coming across like some linux nerd banging his head on a keyboard because a person is using a less obscure distro than him. Not even windows, just a less obscure linux distro.
Quit it.
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So anyway, any chance Mecha and KSA will listen this time and cut it with the e-drama? It's getting annoying to read. This threads sole purpose is for updates for Mecha's Casemaker 3. If you guys still have stuff to discuss, take it to PMs, otherwise it's just making you look bad, which in turn will drive users away from your respective engines, hurting your own projects.
I'm not saying "LETS ALL BE FRIENDS!" because it's glaringly obvious that isn't going to happen, so at least respect each other enough not to invade each other's topics. (Mecha, I know you haven't invaded the PWLib topic, so this is more directed at KSA) No offense KSA but, it seems like a bit of a 1 sided fight, he doesn't seem to have a problem with you but you're being relentless with your attacks. Just take your own advice and drop it.
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User support is everything. If you as an user don`t like, it, you`re stupid. No other words.
Lee, I always meant by real programmers those who WORK their project from CORE. Using MMF2 makes you a programmer and nothing more than a programmer. I stated this a lot of times. C++ with .NET doesn`t make you a real programmer. It`s not a matter of language, but of tools you use. Why I hate it so much? Because people are blind: I take 10 hours adding, say, mp3 playback. Mecha cheats and uses MMF2`s plugin in 1 minute. In the end, no one will notice that I did it by the good old hard way. That`s WHY. My own opinion. Not even close to a reason for me to hit Mecha. For me he can even use .NET, I don`t care.
But in the end that WASN`T the point I hate about Mecha. Why do the HELL that came to be a point of talk anyway? I mentioned that on my post. If It was the reason, I would hate Neon, but he is a good friend.
What indeed makes me want to post something is something called Mecha`s Faulty User Support. How many times I need to say that?
Man, I give up with you. I say A B C and D. "A" was the least relevant to the comment and it is the one you all post about. Seriously, I give up. Can't fight it. It is just too much out of logic.
Back into serious, no-comment mode. (I`m overworked and it is ticking me off to say what I think, so now it`s time to return to sanity.)
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Btw, the conversor got a definitive name: AACaseConversor (AACC). I have a lot of work, but today as I get home i'll be free to do some things about the CM 2.0 reader and interpreter to Interchangeable Maker Code.
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Lee, I always meant by real programmers those who WORK their project from CORE. Using MMF2 makes you a programmer and nothing more than a programmer. I stated this a lot of times. C++ with .NET doesn`t make you a real programmer. It`s not a matter of language, but of tools you use. Why I hate it so much? Because people are blind: I take 10 hours adding, say, mp3 playback. Mecha cheats and uses MMF2`s plugin in 1 minute. In the end, no one will notice that I did it by the good old hard way. That`s WHY. My own opinion. Not even close to a reason for me to hit Mecha. For me he can even use .NET, I don`t care.
Um...aren't you using AIGE or whatever?
But hey, good programmers also know not to waste existing code. Obviously I'm not saying to write everything in Flash, or Mashup GUIs, but you don't need to be an OSS evangelist who wants everything written in Assembly.
I don't suppose my use of XNA in my rewrite of my own engine is reason for you to hit me? It IS a framework specifically designed for games.
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Katana wrote:
Um...aren't you using AIGE or whatever?
I think he made AIGE, too.
Which I think is kinda surprising, but I digress.
Mecha seems to attract a lot of controversy, even elsewhere. Just let the guy work. When (or, as some seem to be stressing, if) CaseMaker 3 comes out, I'll download it. I'll use it. If I like it, I may make a case with it.
And to any who may feel the need to criticize this post or me, don't. Just as an fyi. I won't respond, not because I'm avoiding confrontation or anything, but because I don't check this topic, seeing as it's become less then a good discussion.
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I never said there cannot be good programmers in MMF2 or .NET. Anyway, no more of this topic (programmers one).
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you know KSA_Tech your aan a**hole.Why does he need to tell his users whats up He is on vacation and is chillin so leave him be man.
and PLEASE oh god hear me PLEASE!!! STOP ADVESTING OTHER CASE MAKERS!!!!
This topic was for CM3 and for CM3 ONLY!!!!!!!
You seem too be the only one here other then the other dude that hates mecha thats bringin him down. Do you see him calling you an unexpert programmer on YOUR topic! hmmmm
Thank you!
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And:
I
replied
to
this
Um...aren't you using AIGE or whatever?
AIGE
is
not
a
casemaker.
So
STFU
about
this
dead
talk.
Please.
And I never said any kind of bad word to Mecha. Don't you go and start that with me. You can say I'm wrong at saying the facts, but never disrespect me by saying "a**hole" and such.
So I won't ever again mention about what I think it is wrong at Mecha. Ever again, since no matter I explain and such, there will be people who won't understand. I was wrong into thinking that making comments would make people see.
So go and love or hate Mecha like you want. If you like the way he acts, does, walks his path, good for you. You won't see me ever commenting about it.
Sorry for ever trying to comment about Mecha.
I was thinking just now, and i noticed that no matter how wrong someone is to your own standards (and even proving it) won't change anything if you go and comment it. And you will get attacked/flamed for ever pointing out. I was really wrong coming here and trying to explain my views of Mecha. I exhausted all explanations and still people said I was wrong.
Also to explain the programmer talk, I meant that there are various tiers of programmers. Normal Programmers, Core Programmers, etc. They can be either good of bad. Normal programmers go by simpler languages and may use complete tools. Core programmers go by making it from the core. And so on.
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BigFish wrote:
You know, I've always wondered..... you've actually said this a couple of times, Mecha. What commercial projects are you involved in?
That's the ONLY question I have to ask you, Mecha. Come on. Answer it.
That's the ONLY question I have to ask you, Mecha. Come on. Answer it.
MechaWare has the following projects running:
Mechaudio - A media player that uses almost no resources and is optimal for using while playing games that require much attention.
MechaSource - An engine that works as a platform/FPS/Adventure engine, can easily be modified for personal game making.
Killer 7 - A multiplayer platform shooter RPG where you take the role as one of the seven killers and team up with up to six friends. This game is run on the MechaSource engine.
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Why I hate it so much? Because people are blind: I take 10 hours adding, say, mp3 playback. Mecha cheats and uses MMF2`s plugin in 1 minute. In the end, no one will notice that I did it by the good old hard way.
Uhm, thats not really cheating.
Anyways, whats the difference anyways? We both get the job done except I get mine done faster. Also, I dare you, I can do anything you could do with C++/whatever in MMF2, its nothing limited or "cheating".
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If you are really good, why use MMF2? Because it does things in a flash, that is a good reason, but... It is not about what you can do, I know you could pull out various thing I could in C++, but... no one (at least the majority of people) will notice that I indeed has the trouble to go and implement the core.
It's a matter of recognition of effort, not resulting power and time. I remember when I did a pacman game as an university project. It took me about 6 months to make. I was using SDL, and even so it was hard to make. If I did it in MMF2, it was going to be done by 1/3 at least of the time.
And about the AACC: I'm start to think on developing the Interchangeable Maker Format (basically a language that all editors could export to and all editors could read from), extension .imc: with it there would be a good way to integrate the makers without killing their features. It's a proposal, if you ever want to talk about it.
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Just give it a rest! Continue this in PM if you have to! It's doing no good out here and only making you look worse and worse!
I have respect for your programing skills and how you generally treat the people using your program, but anyone that you have one little problem with becomes public enemy #1!
I saw this back when I was trying to encourage Mecha to keep going and waiting for him to come back so I could ask him how things were coming along.
You (and others) would come busting in, and belittle everyone waiting on him while telling us how we didn't need him because of all the features yours would have.
And now that he's coming around again you see fit to attack him at every side!
GET OVER YOURSELVES! THIS ISN'T ABOUT GLORY OR RECOGNITION! THIS IS ABOUT BUILDING SOMETHING FOR THE FUN OF IT! SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE CAN USE!
SO BACK OFF, GET BACK TO YOUR PROJECT THAT HAS YET TO EVEN WORK FOR MY COMPUTER AND LET MECHA BUILD HIS PROGRAM HIS WAY WITHOUT YOUR INSTIGATING!
Frankly, I don't give a flip for PWLib, not only do I still do not understand the code, but I can't even tinker with it because it won't run on my laptop!
And I'm sick of you doing everything you can to do what appears to be an attempt to make Mecha give up!
At this point he seems to be my only real option for case making with the features I need.
KSA, please, don't reply, save face and get out of this topic.
If you must, just PM or something, but posting any further on this subject will most likely lead to trouble.
Mecha, don't give up. There are people who still believe in you.
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KSA_Tech wrote:
It's a matter of recognition of effort, not resulting power and time.
In the end, it's about the power of the application that you make, actually, the efford doesn't matter at all. Say some random newbie made a totally useless game. He put alot of efford in it, but what does it matter? His application sucks.
KSA, you can put all the efford you want into it, but I can make whatever you make in less time, to be just as powerful. The efford you put into it doesn't matter, the outcome does. You have to realize that no one cares about the efford you put into it, and they're really only after the power your application has.
MMF2 is just as much programming as C++ or anything else, it just provides a different interface.
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KSA, please, don't reply, save face and get out of this topic.
If you must, just PM or something, but posting any further on this subject will most likely lead to trouble.
If you must, just PM or something, but posting any further on this subject will most likely lead to trouble.
He can't, because what he's after is public attention. And I'm not saying this as an offense, but what KSA is trying to pull here is public E-drama.
KSA, if you have anything you want to say about me, PM me. This way we'll avoid major flood in this topic (which already semi-appears) and you won't lose any further face. If you have any questions about CM3, then they go here.
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I didn't even tried making Mecha give up on anything he is working in. I don't want to Mecha to give up.
What the hell do you want me to say? "All things I believe don't need explanation. I was wrong and MMF2 is god's tool." ??
If Mecha gives up because of what i think, HE is the one you should yell at. It's his decision.
I'm after public attention? I don't think it is indeed true: 15k views on PWLib topic is a lot of attention. Like I said, I was explaining my point of view.
Now, let's stop with this stupid conversation. I give up trying to explain what I think. Some people won't see the point, and I will only lose my time and patience with it.
I forgot about the dark that people is in about programming. If you don't see it, don't know it, my point doesn't make the sense it should. That may be the reason on why my explanation looks like flaming. And Mecha is using this as a point to look good to those people. I can't win against this, no matter better I explain. So, indeed, I don't stand a chance against people who don't program it like I do. I definitively give up on trying to explain ever kind of point of view I might have. Sorry for even trying to explain my point of view.
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Mecha wrote:
Uhm, thats not really cheating.
Uhhh... KSA? That really ISN'T cheating, quite frankly. The whole point of formats and libraries such as MP3 are that things are consistent between programs.
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It's a matter of recognition of effort, not resulting power and time. I remember when I did a pacman game as an university project. It took me about 6 months to make. I was using SDL, and even so it was hard to make.
.... 6 months seems like an ungodly long amount of time to make Pac-Man.
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but what KSA is trying to pull here is public E-drama.
Actually, that's not true. I've talked to him a bit, and he's just trying to express his opinions........ but he's kind of failing horribly.
Basically, what he's saying is that he dosen't think that you're a real programmer because you use MMF2. What'd I like to say that if you use MMF2 to make an app, you're insane. I mean, Neo dosen't try to pass himself off as a programmer because he uses MMF2 for what it's meant to be used with... games. Like Donald Serrot, he just wants to be able to make fun games in his spare time without dedicating a lot of time into learning programming. That's fine. But making apps with MMF2 honestly takes more effort than learning C++ does. I'm completely fine with using MMF2, but if you use it to makes apps, all it does is drive you nuts and teach you bad programming practices along the way.
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Mechaudio - A media player that uses almost no resources and is optimal for using while playing games that require much attention.
MechaSource - An engine that works as a platform/FPS/Adventure engine, can easily be modified for personal game making.
Killer 7 - A multiplayer platform shooter RPG where you take the role as one of the seven killers and team up with up to six friends. This game is run on the MechaSource engine.
MechaSource - An engine that works as a platform/FPS/Adventure engine, can easily be modified for personal game making.
Killer 7 - A multiplayer platform shooter RPG where you take the role as one of the seven killers and team up with up to six friends. This game is run on the MechaSource engine.
Well, at least I can rest in peace knowing that you made this: http://mechaware.net/
Mechaudio lead me to your homepage with a Google search, and that said homepage told me it hasn't been released yet. Which is the same thing it told me a couple of months ago when I checked it by backtracking the URL used in your screenshots. MechaSource gave me only domain name sites. And I didn't even bother searching for Killer 7 because that's the name of a popular GameCube game.
I think the evidence speaks on its own.
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Now that we're clear on that, I can tell that CM3 won't be availiable for direct download, but can be acessable through MechaSource.
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Now that we're clear on that, I can tell that CM3 won't be availiable for direct download, but can be acessable through MechaSource.
O_o Okay, now I'm convinced. You've lost it.
Honestly, is there any advantage to distributing CM3 on "MechaSource"!? And, the real Source is widely known to prevent many people with slow internet connections from installing games. Even store bought games.
Part of me wants to feel that your are conspiring against me for posting against you, except that it would be way beyond your knowledge that I have dialup.
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I dont think it matters what app you use and how much effort was put into it. Its the outcome. Now dont get me wrong, effort is a tiny bit important, but the resulting program is what matters. Therefore if you can make an excellent program in MMF2, I dont see what's wrong.
Now, KSA, I think I see how you're feeling cheated. you feel that what takes you 6 hours (and I know the pain) being done in less than a minute is "cheating". And you are trying to tell everyone that it is. mmf2 makes things easier, yes, but that doesnt mean it's cheating out other programmers.
But the way I see it, I dont think anyone gives a shit about how the casemaker is being made, be it in MMF2, python, C++, or ADHD. All we want is a casemaker to play with.
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Neon Lemmy Koopa wrote:
But the way I see it, I dont think anyone gives a shit about how the casemaker is being made, be it in MMF2, python, C++, or ADHD. All we want is a casemaker to play with.
And I agree! The way it's made isn't that important, as long as it works in the end is what matters.
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Anyways, I might not be done with MechaSource by the time that the first release of CM3 is out, so you'll probably see the first few as standalones. I hope no one have any problems with the new MechaSource system, but see it as PWLib that runs on AIGE, where CM3 will be supported by MechaSource.
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Is it an auto updater?
Let me give an example...
I have something for my World of Warcraft add-ons, because I like having add-ons from the start of the game way before I even need them. =P
I have a program on my laptop that automatically checks for updates and let's me know when to download them.
Will MechaSource be like that? Is that what it is? Something that downloads the program and updates as needed?
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BigFish wrote:
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Now that we're clear on that, I can tell that CM3 won't be availiable for direct download, but can be acessable through MechaSource.
O_o Okay, now I'm convinced. You've lost it.
Honestly, is there any advantage to distributing CM3 on "MechaSource"!? And, the real Source is widely known to prevent many people with slow internet connections from installing games. Even store bought games.
Part of me wants to feel that your are conspiring against me for posting against you, except that it would be way beyond your knowledge that I have dialup.
STEAM-HATER!
(Calls together the Steam brigade)
Still, Mecha...even Valve wasn't really working on Steam until they had Half-Life working. You might want to be a bit more focused on the core, over the features.
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MechaBowser wrote:
The real source? If you're talking about Steam, then MechaSource has nothing to do with Steam. MechaSource is just a protocol engine, however it lets me easily auto-update CM3 and configure it with ease. MechaSource is like 5mb, so I doubt it will be a problem. Trust me, MechaSource will just add in more power :p
Ahh. I love that feature. [/sarcasm] I sure hope their not forced as per Steam, otherwise I will almost guarentee I won't try this at all. Steam pisses me off with forced updates.Although why I should have to have another "Steam" application open just so I can run your case maker, I don't know. I'm sick of having to have programs idly running in the background just to run what I want to run (Steam, Veoh Video Player for larger videos..) It's highly undesirable to have to require a program to idle in the background, consuming system process, just for a user to be able to do what they want to do.
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Lee Ji Hoon wrote:
You could always have it available both ways. For direct download for people who don't want to use your Source engine or only want the one program, and through the engine for people who want to access other software on it as well as the case maker.
This is a good idea, except that MechaSource is, after all, an engine that adds functions to CM3 that would normally take ages to implend. It's like AIGE and PWLib, actually. Also, MechaSource won't be running idily in the background, it's constantly communicating with CM3.
BigFIsh wrote:
Mechaudio lead me to your homepage with a Google search, and that said homepage told me it hasn't been released yet. Which is the same thing it told me a couple of months ago when I checked it by backtracking the URL used in your screenshots. MechaSource gave me only domain name sites. And I didn't even bother searching for Killer 7 because that's the name of a popular GameCube game.
The homepage is outdated as hell. I can't be bothered with updating it while working on the products. Also yeah, Killer 7 is also the name of a GameCube/PS2 game from, like, Ubisoft or something. Actually that was discovered a few days after the production started, which is also why there hasn't been a word about this project, as it is still very unfinished and may end up changing name.
Why did you expect to find anything on google anyways
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Honestly though, I hope you guys have calmed down a bit, it's getting to be a bit ridiculous in here. Honestly, I don't see CM3's new "Mechasource" engine as such a bad thing, unless it forces you to update. If you can "choose" to update, that's great. After all, between versions, some things often get fixed and some things broken. However, if it helps you organize and download other people's cases, that's great. Nothing bad about that. One thing I will say Mecha, if you're going ahead with this "Mechasource" thing, don't make it like steam that sits there idly, seperate from the main program. Code it into the release of CM3 or something, so you don't have to have 2 programs running, as that would be balls.
Also, I can see KSA's point as he has put alot of effort into his maker, but it's true, it doesn't really matter how much effort you put in for the end-users, just how functional it is. I'll hand it to KSA however that at this time PWLib is by far the most stable/feature-filled casemaker available. I don't know if CM3 will top it as that's yet to be seen, however, you 2 should stop bickering between yourselfs and just accept to be rivals. It will help drive your projects to much higher places and be beneficial for everyone.
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MechaBowser wrote:
I don't even know why people are comparing Steam and MechaSource. MechaSource is like a GameBoy, and CM3 is like one of the games. MechaSource controls and manages CM3 to have all the functions needed.
Because I want one program, and one program alone active to do things, where possible. I loathe steam but have to use it because I have no other choice. Where if your CaseMaker3 (which now - from you have said, requires 2 programs to run!) requires some silly program to run at the same time, I have the choice of other case makers and am more likely to opt out, regardless of how "easier" it is to use.
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Neon Lemmy Koopa wrote:
yo does this mechasource thing and cm3 work in linux? cause Im on a linux box and Im wondering if I can run it in wine or something.
This question has been answered... 4 times in this topic? No, it doesn't run on linux, it runs however through wine.
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Why did you expect to find anything on google anyways
.... because, silly me, I thought your "commercial" products would actually be...... well, um.... commercial? Well known at all? Actually have any users!? Come on, man!
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I don't even know why people are comparing Steam and MechaSource. MechaSource is like a GameBoy, and CM3 is like one of the games. MechaSource controls and manages CM3 to have all the functions needed.
Well, we're comparing the two because you yourself said it auto-updates. And because I confused Source for Steam and that kinda messed everyone up (sorry about that
). But anyways, are there any ways to turn off auto-updating? Because, as you may have already noticed, Mecha, more than one person will refuse to use CM3 if it auto-updates.
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He already said it's something like the emulator you'd open to play a game. It's not an "extra program", it's PART of the program. And if you're worried about resource-eating in a 2D RPG, chances are you seriously need to upgrade your computer beyond something that came out of a Cracker Jack box.
I forget; did Mecha even say whether it would auto-update? And why would this be a problem?
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Katana wrote:
I honestly wonder, DDR, if you've even heard of Steam before this topic, or if you even have a reason to hate MechaSource here...
He already said it's something like the emulator you'd open to play a game. It's not an "extra program", it's PART of the program. And if you're worried about resource-eating in a 2D RPG, chances are you seriously need to upgrade your computer beyond something that came out of a Cracker Jack box.
I forget; did Mecha even say whether it would auto-update? And why would this be a problem?
Yes I've heard of Steam before this topic I use it quite reguarly. Or did you not hear when I said about using it to play games like Team Fortress 2?He already said it's something like the emulator you'd open to play a game. It's not an "extra program", it's PART of the program. And if you're worried about resource-eating in a 2D RPG, chances are you seriously need to upgrade your computer beyond something that came out of a Cracker Jack box.
I forget; did Mecha even say whether it would auto-update? And why would this be a problem?
Regardless of the fact I have a 2.34ghz processor, 1gb DDR1 ram, and a NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT, I don't want to go wasting system resource with programs that shouldn't need to be open, regardless of how small it is, it is still wasted system resource. Oh, which, as a matter of fact, although it doesn't concern you, is getting upgraded within the next week.
p.s cracker jack box.. ? Peh. Who wants a bog standard machine brought from PCWorld? their con-artists. I'm the one that's put the entire insides of my machine together, maintained its RAM, cooling system, CPU fan, PSU, etc.
Why would auto-updates be a problem? Updates can sometimes cause incompatibilities, and enforced updates (Auto-Updates) I personally find to be quite intrusive to my system.
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Hey, look on the bright side people - Mecha vs. KSA is apparantly over. Now it's Mecha vs. all his users!
Almost.Mecha vs Everyone
Mecha Fans vs Anyone that isn't a fan.
two brawls in one topic, wheres a Wii when you need one? (5 points to whomever gets that reference)
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