Well, I just finished this case and my opinion on it is that I preferred 4-1 to it. It's a difficult statement to make because the risque humor in what is almost certainly deliberate on Trucy's part is almost too adorable for words.

Ema's attitude during the game and her inability to pronounce glamorous (has she been hanging around with Gumshoe so long that her IQ has dropped?) brought down the score a bit. Also, I had less sympathy for Wocky than any other Phoenix Wright protagonist save for .

There's also some serious game-play issues with his adventure on my end. I can't describe how many times I was just wandering back and forth between stages, looking for something to happen. The only other time that happened for me was Turnabout Big Top and that's my least favorite of all Phoenix Wright cases.

Fundamentally, Phoenix Wright's success depends on easy game-play and interesting characters for its to succeed. At least, for me. The major problem with Turnabout Corner is the fact that Wocky is like in that he really should be locked up. is something of a weak character as well. Oddly, I think my biggest complaint about her is that her plans are way too normal and sensible to really fit into the PW world.

The strongest points of the story come from the continued treatment of Apollo Justice as Phoenix's butt monkey. As expected, Apollo Justice cannot get any work as the man who destroyed his own legal firm. So, he's ultimately forced to come to work for Phoenix Wright (I wonder if Phoenix is going to demand a management fee from Apollo to add insult to injury?)

In actuality, I don't mind this manipulation as I'm fairly clear that the Machiavellian knows the entire story well before Apollo and is just jerking him around the same way that Mia did (but without the excuse of being dead) in order to make him a better lawyer. I can't imagine Apollo's reputation as a lawyer has improved, though. Let's face it, his second case has him get a Mob Boss' son off the hook. If it was possible actually get a worse reputation than zero, I'm fairly sure Apollo has it now.

To expand on my complaints with Ema. She's lost some of her innocent bright eyed optimism and become far less skilled than we might have hoped so. I really love her character design, though. But seriously, while I can believe she'd fail the exam, it's hard to believe she'd lose proper English and inhibit an investigation like she does. What's with the "Kids" stuff anyway?

A positive and a negative is Prosecutor Gavin. I suppose the oddest complaint I have about the Prosecutor is that, upon meeting him, I can't help but think the game would have been more enjoyable from his perspective.

In addition to having the potential for an Ema Skye relationship, he's also the first Prosecutor who seems to genuinely be interested in doing his job and finding the guilty party (at least until Edgeworth's redemption and that's when he's replaced by Von Kharma). Given he pretty much hands the case to Apollo Justice at the end, it's also difficult to really see him as a rival that Apollo must strive against. If they'd wanted to do Phoenix Wright 4 then they might have considered doing it from Prosecutor Gavin's perspective. Then setting him up against his own brother for more drama. Oh well.

Almost all of the flaws in the case are compensated for by Trucy. Trucy Wright is, bluntly, MAGICAL. Not just magical but MAGICAL. She's cuter than Maya and Pearl put together and I daresay even more awesome than young Ema and that's saying something. The game was redeemed from being one of my bottom cases by her very presence and every scene she did is just awesome.



Ironically, my favorite part of the game after Trucy is the ending. I confess, I actually liked that the game didn't chicken out and make Wocky see his father's perspective. He's such a little snot that the fact he's going to ruin their attempts to go legitimate works out very well and its much more believable he's going to continue to be a gangster. Even if he does manage to survive.

Note: My own familiarity with Mob Tropes caused me a bit of a headache here as we had the Godfather and what is blatantly a Yakuza family with typical Punk son being treated like a regular mob one. This is about the only time the localization didn't work out very well.

Overall, a very fun case but frustrating and flawed.

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You have some very good points there. Two things stood out to me though...



1. For some reason, I think she means to say glimmerous. Remember she says "simmerous" at one point. I think it's more of a habit than a stupidity.

2. Out of curiosity, why don't you like Ron? I don't really see similarities between Wocky and Ron...

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Yeah, I wasn't sure if I cared for Wocky until the end of the case. Seeing the way he reacted to his father almost made me cry.

It's more or less the fact that Ron is a likable guy but he's an unrepentant thief. Despite his Masque De La Mask personality and glamorous image, the fact is that the guy is stealing to pay his wife's credit card bills and a lot of cultural treasures too. Even the blackmail doesn't actually cover the first theft, which was entirely his own doing. Afterward, he's also helping other criminals carry on with their duties. So, overall, I can't say I really much cared for getting Ron off.

Wocky is a born Gangster and while I *HATE* guys who talk like that in real life, especially guys who came to it deliberately rather than something they picked up, I almost respect him more for the fact that he's at least walking into the lifestyle with both eyes open.

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That's two fair points, I suppose...

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I wonder if Alia actually got off or a reduced sentence. While she did threaten the victim, she killed him only after he'd explicitly tried to murder her.

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Probably not. He didn't try to kill her, but to stop her. Plus, she kinda did him afterwards when he was defenseless.


You keep talking about how Apollo's rep is going down and down and down.

ARGH. MORE 4-4 SPOILERS. (things seem to be a whole lot better when you get thru 4-4 T_T)


And Apollo defended the innocent son of a mob boss who ain't gonna be a mob boss soon.


Putting all that aside (mostly Apollo's reputation, which I think you're focusing too much on a bit >.>), the creators didn't have much to work with. Let's say that in 4-1 Apollo convicted some random person who wasn't his boss, although afterwards for some reason he isn't part of a law firm. Apollo is a rookie lawyer, who only won a single case. Who is going to hire him?

They needed to figure out a way to answer that question, then weave it into a compelling story, and I think they did a pretty good job of that.


(I'm going to talk about 4-3 here, but there's really no spoilers, although there are AA spoilers:)
I have the same quarrel with 1-3 as with 4-3. A major part of the case is why Phoenix(/Apollo) is doing the case; it's not that exciting when it's just "Look! A random case! I think i'll defend that person for no reason!" In 1-1, Phoenix defended Larry, a close friend. In 1-2, no one would defend Maya 'cause Redd was preventing them from doing it. In 1-4, no one would defend Edgy 'cause he made all the defense attorneys emo by beating them, and 'cause Von Karma was the prosecutor. (After 1-4, I'm pretty sure he's have a good rep for beating Von Karma, so it's acceptable when ppl randomly come to him, like 2-1.)
Now, 1-3. Phoenix is a rookie attorney. Sure, he exposed Redd, but that was one case. Will Powers is an action star, so he should've had enough money to hire an attorney a bit better than Phoenix. Phoenix just got the case 'cause Maya wanted him to have it, and Will just randomly accepted it. But again, why would Will go with Phoenix over a seasoned attorney?
Same with 4-3. Apollo is just a random attorney. Why should he have gotten it over someone else?


And about Ema--I'm pretty sure that's on purpose. I think 'glimmerous' is just her own little word used to describe Klavier xD (because 'glamorous' has a possitive connotation, so she needed a word that conveyed that same sense without the positive connotation)

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Well don't get me wrong, Apollo Justice is actually very lucky. If I was a Trucy/Apollo shipper (and the bracelet has already clued me into the idea that we're getting a Luke and Leia situation going here since super powers are hereditary in PW!'s world), then he'd be getting the best reward of all in true love.

However, the fact is that Apollo cares more about justice than he does about material success. While I think his career is going to be pathetic and from the way the Prosecution acts, it really is (Phoenix was never treated like such a complete loser as Apollo is), that doesn't mean he's not living a full and rich life.

He's developing a family with the Wrights, even if he's been dragged into the lifestyle. Plus, he wants to work for Phoenix Wright the Attorney more than anything. He gets that chance, even if their law office is now a talent Agency.



Actually, I think that made perfect sense to me at the time. For one thing, Will Powers isn't a huge action star. He makes a low budget (terminally low budget to be honest), Sentai show. The kind of low budget show that gets run on PBS in my country. It's why his co-star is so obsessed with killing his boss, he's been reduced to the absolute bottom of what was once a prosperous career and Will just takes it because he's glad to be on TV.

It's only when he's doing a Drag show, essentially, that his career takes off and he's risen to Hercules: The Legendary Journey's levels of fame (again we're not exactly talking the height of success but we now have measurable success).

Honestly, I did wonder about 4-2 (not 4-3 oddly), because you'd think the Kitaki family has its own legal representation. Of course, there's an in-game reference that Alia had chosen Apollo Justice because she thought he'd fail. Honestly, given who Phoenix Wright is, you'd have to wonder how any girl could be that stupid.

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I found it especially funny that Wocky didn't kill Meraktis only because Alita did it before him :D

While I say that both Maya and Pearl are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay cuter, funnier and more helpful than Trucy, I still like her in some way, but she really isn't my type of girl (that would be Maya). But she had some great lines, like stopping the bullet with her heart :) (the assistants for me are: Maya: 10/10, Pearl: 9/10, Ema: 9/10, Trucy: 7/10). In 4-3 and 4-4, while she was still cute, she did two things that prevented me from liking her as much as the others.

4-4 is gonna be a very satisfying case for you, I predict :)

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I didnt like Wocky either, he just annoyed me. He and Alita shouldnt be together. 4-2 was a good case overall but I found it predictable Alita was bad (but not really EVIL).

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I question your description of Ron as 'unrepentant'. If you show him certain objects on the first day, he expresses quite a bit of regret for his actions. Okay, he sells plans to criminals at the end of the game, but he's probably planning to use that to expose them. For all we know, he could be doing it with the police's approval.

given the statement "I think we're the worst criminals"

I don't quite think so.

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I don't know about Sentai shows -_-' Considering how Penny and Cody and Maya and every kid in the universe (according to Penny/Cody/Maya) (and Edgy) are super-obsessed with the Steel Samurai, it seemed like he wouldn't be getting such a low budget.

(Jack Hammer's low budget had nothing to do with the show's success or lack thereof.)

But w/e.



The Kitaki probably does, but Alita could easily pull the "I'm his fiancee! Let me pick out an attorney for my darling!" card. And she explicitly (albeit quickly) says that she picked Apollo because she thought she's fail. Besides, this girl hired Apollo Justice, not Phoenix Wright, so she's not that stupid. (Besides, Phoenix is only a big name in the legal world.)

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Why would Alita want Wocky to be guilty? She wasn't married to him yet, and the only reason for doing that is because she's a golddigger.

I believe, as Alita shows by confessing, the jig was up as soon as Wocky got his medical exam. It's better for her to have Wocky get tried, found guilty, and marry him in the clink than be found guilty of murder or just give up the whole plan and keep her life.

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