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God, me too. I told my dad that I want Rosetta Stone software for Christmas so that I can finally learn Japanese.

Even if I don't learn the language in time, I'll probably end up importing the game for the sake of having it. It's the principle of the matter, really: the mindset of a fan. Besides, the two main characters = my OTP. I'll probably end up lovingly caressing the packaging. :|


Haha. XD I can imagine myself doing that as well. I'll be happily rubbing the game case against my cheek. XD


Which cheek?
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God, me too. I told my dad that I want Rosetta Stone software for Christmas so that I can finally learn Japanese.

Even if I don't learn the language in time, I'll probably end up importing the game for the sake of having it. It's the principle of the matter, really: the mindset of a fan. Besides, the two main characters = my OTP. I'll probably end up lovingly caressing the packaging. :|


Haha. XD I can imagine myself doing that as well. I'll be happily rubbing the game case against my cheek. XD


Which cheek?


LOL. XD

Which one do you think it is? >_> <_<
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LOL. XD

Which one do you think it is? >_> <_<


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I finished translating the GS (whatever) magzine monthly canon story, chapter 7. Chocolate~wow~

Japanese——>Chinese:紫月仙

なるほど逆転裁判 The seventh お題バレンタインデー(Canon)

From《逆転裁判ファンブック なるほど逆転裁判!》


Today is Valentine's Day,which is being looked forward by males from all over the world. Larry came to the Wright & Co. Law Office today, and we all know what he was looking for. Mr. Wright said something terrible...well, it seems that he really enjoyed the chocolate after all.


Larry: I've finished washing the bathroom, Maya!

Maya: Wow,really! Thank you so much, Larry!


Larry:So, what's now? I can do anything for Maya...especially today.

Maya:Well, then, I've been thinking about rearranging the room for a while,would you please to help me?

Larry:What?

Maya: Would you mind to help me move all furniture outside the room?

Larry: ...Oh, well, I, I don't really mind....


Wright: Hey, what are you doing,Larry? What do you mean by "especially today"?


Larry: Are you an idiot? You don't know what day is it today?

Wright:...Oh,it's Valentine's Day today, so what?

Larry:What? Do you look down on my Mr.Valentino?

Wright:No,no, I don't know that Mr.Valentino.


Maya:Nick, it seems that you don't like Valentine's Day, do you?

Wright:No...because I received chocolate from Edgeworth on that day.

Maya:Eeeeeeeeeh? NNNNNNNNICK AND MMMMMMMMR. EDGEWORTH....!


Larry:AAAAAAAAH! SO-SORRY, NICK! DID I DO SOMETHING WRONG?

Wright: No no no, it was not what you think!

Maya:Then, tell us the story please!

Wright:...When I was in primary school,I liked a girl whose name was Lumi.

Larry:What? You...you liked that girl?

Wright:In the morning of the Valentine's Day, I found her chocolate on my desk.

Maya: Sweet!

Wright: Yeah, I was pretty happy...however...


Maya:...However?


Wright: If you took a close look, you would have seen "To Miles" on the pink paper box.

Maya:"To Miles"...so...?

Wright: Yeah, because I sat very close to Mile Edgeworth.

Larry:Oh yes, that girl was sort of careless. I remember that.

Wright: It's all right, I've dealed with some really careless people.


Maya:I see...what happened then?

Wright: Well, I had to send it back to Edgeworth.

Larry:You are always too seriouse. I wouldn't had cared at all.

Wright: Do you really know the meaning of "care"?


Maya:What did Mr.Edgeworth say then?


Wright:Edgeworth sent me the chocolate, saying "Actually you like Lumi, don't you?"


Maya:What? How could him being so cool...didn't care about girl's love at all...


Wright:Well...it seems that somehow he knew it was just social chocolate.(Tuesday:Social chocolate...I don't know how to translate it into English...it's 義理巧克力 in original Japanese, means chocolate which girls give to every boys in the class on Valentine's Day)

Maya: How could he know that?

Wright: When he came to school on that day, he saw two pink boxes on two desks.


Maya:...Wow,Lumi sent the same chocolate to other boys.

Larry: By the way, it was my desk.

Maya:Huh?

Larry: I found a pink paper box on my desk on that day.


Wright: Wh-what? You also received chocolate from her?

Larry: Like what I have said, I don't really care about the very tiny things.

Maya:...What was that?

Larry:If you took a close look at the box, you would have seen "To Phoenix" on it.

Wright:...What?

Larry:But you see, it was on my desk, so I took it as mine.

Maya:Hum...Larry, but your name is...?


Larry: Butz. Larry Butz.

Maya:So you are saying...actually it was the chocolate for Nick...


Wright:Lumi...she picked a wrong desk...again?

Larry:Like what I have said, she was sort of careless.

Wright: I will deal with some really careless people!


Larry: He-hey, Nick, don't look at me like that!


Wright: But you took my chocolate...

Larry: Well, Edgeworth has told you it was just social chocolate.

Wright:Ah....


Larry: You ate the chocolate, didn't you? Lumi's chocolate which Edgewoth sent you.

Wright:Er....yeah.

Larry: See? The result made no difference.

Wright:...Re...really?

Maya:Hum...I don't know....


Wright:That's why I hate Valentine's Day!

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Nice...I like the fact that Nick and Edgey sent chocolate to each other.XD
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Actually, I'm gonna say "bi" just because I ship him with both Phoenix and Franziska.
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Awwww... thanks for translating that, Tuesday! You rock!! :edgy:

...although it sucks that Phoenix doesn't like Valentine's Day just because he got chocolate from Edgey. >_< Nothing wrong with that, Phoenix! XD
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Awwww... thanks for translating that, Tuesday! You rock!! :edgy:

...although it sucks that Phoenix doesn't like Valentine's Day just because he got chocolate from Edgey. >_< Nothing wrong with that, Phoenix! XD


He's probably just embarassed. Bless his heart :shoe:
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Awwww... thanks for translating that, Tuesday! You rock!! :edgy:

...although it sucks that Phoenix doesn't like Valentine's Day just because he got chocolate from Edgey. >_< Nothing wrong with that, Phoenix! XD


Do you really think he dislikes it? Look at his face!



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Thanks for the translation! I got that book recently, but my Japanese is very limited. I can read kana and recognize a few kanji, but other than that... Surprisingly, I managed to get the gist of it, but after the first chocolate mix-up I kinda lost it. ^^;

And that picture is too adorable. I always wonder what's going through Edgey's head there. XD
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Awwww... thanks for translating that, Tuesday! You rock!! :edgy:

...although it sucks that Phoenix doesn't like Valentine's Day just because he got chocolate from Edgey. >_< Nothing wrong with that, Phoenix! XD


Do you really think he dislikes it? Look at his face!

Spoiler: Phoenix you are such a poor liar LOL
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Hehe, this is true. XD He was probably just embarrassed or didn't want to admit that he liked it. XD

Edgey looks like he's really bored for some reason. O_o
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I miss this thread. :larry:


Here a new topic for discussion: Phoenix/Edgeworth fanfic. I've noticed that many stories follow one of two paths for them getting together:

1. :edgeworth: seduces :phoenix: and gives him the hot, hot man-love Phoenix never knew he wanted.
2. :phoenix: is finally able to wear :edgeworth: down into accepting the love and affection he never thought he deserved.

Of course, not all PxE stories have to do with the start of their relationship, but they are some of my favorites.

Which type do you prefer?
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Which type do you prefer?


PORN. XD And I know nothing about writing that. At all. *whistles innocently*
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Somehow I suddenly remembered that there is one more chapter to translate...*shot*

Japanese——>Chinese:紫月仙

なるほど逆転裁判 chapter eight お題ホワイトデー(Canon)

From《逆転裁判ファンブック なるほど逆転裁判!》

Following the topic of last month, this month we are going to talk about White Valentine's Day(Tuesday:Not sure if people here know about the White Vanlentine's Day, anyway it is on March 14th, one month later than the Valentine's Day. Different from what people do on the Vanlentine's Day, on the WVD, boys make/buy some candies to girls who they love. As what I mentioned in the last chapter, sometimes females give out social chocolate just to be polite. There is also kind of "social candies" in Asia,which males give out just to be polite.) Now Phoenix, Miles and Larry are sitting together,what kind of memory about the White Vanlentine's Day do they have?




Maya: I'm soooooo full now~

Larry: My miso ramen combo tastes not bad, huh?
(Tuesday:Miso, 味增 as the original words. A kind of tranditional Japanese soup)

Maya: Yummy!

Larry: Hei Edgey,how do you think of it?

Edgeworth:....They are pretty good.


Larry: We started from the miso ramen salad,then miso ramen shrimp which you can eat with beef miso ramen.

Maya: And miso ramen as the main course!

Larry: Now, we will have some important dessert:frozen fruit syrup with miso ramen!

Maya: What?


Wright:.....What are you doing, Larry?

Larry: Are you an idiot? You don't know what day is it today?


Maya: Look, Mr.Edgeworth also gave me some fruit soft candies!

Wright:...Oh,it's White Valentine's Day today, so what?

Larry:What? Do you look down on my Mr.White?

Wrigjt:No,no,I don't know that Mr.White at all!

Maya:Nick, it seems that you don't like White Valentine's Day, do you?

Wright:No...because I received candies from Edgeworth on that day.


Maya:Eeeeeeeeeh? NNNNNNNNICK AND MMMMMMMMR. EDGEWORTH....!


Larry:AAAAAAAAH! SO-SORRY, NICK! DID I DO SOMETHING WRONG?

Edgeworth:pl-please stop saying that kind of misleading words!

Maya:Well, tell us the story!

Wright:...I liked a girl whose name was Lumi when I was in the primary school.


Larry: Hey Nick, did you really like that girl?

Wright:...I remember you being surprised by that last month as well.


Maya:Never mind. What then?


Wright: In the morning of White Valentine's Day, I left the candies on her desk and screwed up my courage to attched a message.

Edgeworth:You...gave it to Lumi?

Wright:After the lunch on that day, Edgeworth came to me with the candies.

Young Edgeworth: "She sent this back to you...it seems that she couldn't accept it."

Maya: I'm sorry...

Wright: It's O.K, I was not really down.


Edgeworth: Is that so...?


Maya: What's wrong, Mr. Edgeworth?

Edgeworth: What you just said...there is something I'm not sure. Something very tiny though.

Larry: Well well! It was very old thing after all, why not just let it go?

Wright:No, Edgeworth, I'm kind of curious. Tell me.

Edgeworth: It's very simple. The girl who asked me to pass you the candies...was not Lumi.


Wright:Huh?

Maya: Then...who it was?

Edgeworth:Actually...her name was Tomi.

Wright:Tomi? Why it was her who gave you the candies?

Edgeworth:Think about it, Wright, what happened on that morning?

Wright: On that morning...I got shool with my candies...and..oh yeah! I was looking for Lumi's seat.

Maya: Nick, you didn't even know where did the girl you liked sit?

Wright: Well actually we just changed the seats...In fact,I remember asking you for help, Larry.

Larry:Re-really?

Edgeworth:I guess you misheard the name Lumi as Tomi, didn't you?

Larry:Er...well.


Maya:Only if Tomi had gave the candies back to Nick by herself...

Edgeworth:Well, I was the monitor.

Wright:La-Larry!...you......


Larry:Actually I liked Tomi...

Wright: It was not an excuse!

Maya: However, life is something interesting after all.

Wright:What are you talking about?

Maya:You see-Nick, who was not even satified by exchanging chocolates, is now arguing about the life. (チョコのやりとりも満足にできないなるほどくんが、今はイノチのやりとりをしてるんだから. The former やりとり means "exchange", the later "やりとり" means "argu")

Larry: Hey, it's true!

Wright:....Maya, we didn't expect something like this, did we?


----Fin----

To be honest, I couldn't help thinking about the possibility of the game producer being a yaoi fanboy after I read this chapter....*shot again*
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zzn3-_W5RU

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I can't believe I missed a topic like this!

As much as I adore Edgeworth and his frilly ways, I must admit, he probably IS gay. Or at least bi. I can't help but ship him with Phoenix. They just go...well together.
Oh, and the Valentines thing was hilarious. Thanks for translating!!! :edgy:
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Hehehe. That's so cute, Tuesday. Thanks for translating!! :edgy:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zzn3-_W5RU

maybe he isn't gay *brutally murdered*


Ah, a classic. ^_^

...hey, I saw what you wrote there. >_> <_<

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Yes. Yes they do. ^_^
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It's certainly true that a character's sexuality can never be proven "in canon," but I also think it's stupid to assume "straight until proven otherwise." Sometimes people will just interpret a character a certain way because they just prefer it that way, and I think that's fine. After all, the fandom is all about twisting canon.

That said, Edgeworth being gay just makes sense to me. I think a lot of people forget that gay and straight aren't the only options--bisexuality exists too. However, I can only see Edgeworth having relationships with men, or Phoenix at least.

The relationship between Phoenix and Edgeworth is more complex and meaningful than that of rivals, or even friends. PW presents a lot of great relationships, but theirs is by far the most beautiful. My feelings about the pairing are perfectly explained by the wonderful fanfic Struggling Against Gravity. Phoenix/Edgeworth makes SENSE to me, and I personally see their feelings becoming romantic after the series. Some people may not like that. Whatever, everyone has his or her own preferences. And it's not just the yaoi fans either. I like romantic relationships between characters of any gender, if the emotion and meaning is there. I'm not partial to male/male, female/female, or male/female. Out of all possible relationships for these two characters, Phoenix being with Edgeworth is the most satisfying for me.

Granted, there are some issues before they can fully realize their relationship. I imagine Edgeworth became aware first of how he felt about Phoenix sometime around 2-4. The most telling scenes are in 3-5 when he speaks to Iris in the detention center. He clearly believes Phoenix and Iris care about each other, and it must pain him, yet at the same time he wants Phoenix to be happy. When he doesn't present Phoenix as the one Iris is hiding her secret from, and she catches on to the fact that he's sharing a secret of his own, I can't believe anyone could read this in any other way. Edgeworth is aware of his feelings, but he regards them as a "deep, dark secret," something that has to be hidden. Perhaps he's ashamed of his homosexual feelings, or perhaps he views them as a betrayal of Phoenix's trust. Either way, he has a long way to go before he's comfortable with them. Edgeworth's an emotionally troubled character, and Nick has some work to do in getting him to loosen up. I'm disappointed that the hospital scene wasn't shown, so I may end up trying my hand at some fanfic for it, some time.

On Phoenix's end, things are a bit more uncertain. He obviously cares very much for Edgeworth, but I don't think he realizes in what way just yet. He likely thought of himself as straight, and only becoming aware of Edgeworth's feelings for him and thinking on his own feelings will he realize he is in love with his friend.

I definitely think it will work. Struggling Against Gravity is pretty much exactly how I see their relationship starting. Edgeworth doing something he regrets in a rare illogical moment, and Nick thinking on his feelings and then making the first decisive move to starting a relationship. I selectively choose my canon, so I generally choose to believe GS4 never happened and Nick and Edgey continue to make their names as lawyers, while sleeping together on the side.

As for how others will be affected... Maya probably would be happy for Nick, and maybe it won't even be a huge surprise. Pearls might be confused by the whole thing, but she'll accept it in time. Franziska will probably pretend it's not happening. Gumshoe will warn Nick not to do anything to hurt Edgey.

As far as the seme/uke thing goes.... I'm also a fan of the switching hypothesis, but Nick as the initiator, at least at first, seems more likely. But I'm sure Edgewortch can be pretty aggressive when he becomes more comfortable. It'll take some time for them to work things out, but I'm sure they'll have a very healthy and happy and often amusing sex life.

In the end, they're just two people who happen to be right together. I don't know how anyone can deny that.
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I completely agree. :edgy:

SomethingLeftUnsaid, you put it in perfect words. ^_^
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That. Video. Was. Epic.
Full of win. It's overflowing with it. Especially Edgeworth's expression. I love that sprite ._.
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...amen, sister. Amen.


Haha thanks, I pretty much just summed up what this whole thread is about in a few paragraphs.

That's how much I love Nick/Edgey :edgy:
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I just saw this edgeworth x Diego Armando doujinshi.... believe it or not edgy was seme
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Wait... what? WHERE? O_O

*adores Seme!Edgeworth*
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it was in a hentai site, but I´m scarred to go in there, it has grossberg hentai too, god! O-o
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it was in a hentai site, but I´m scarred to go in there, it has grossberg hentai too, god! O-o


Please tell me where it is!! O_o I'll even risk seeing Grossberg hentai. I might have to have the brain bleach ready. XD
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The lengths some people will go to...
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Long time lurker and first time poster here. Also a fan of EdgeWright. It's strange, because I've always laughed at Yaoi before. Then I completely changed my mind about it when I played the Phoenix Wright games. They just feel so wright (/lame) to me.

However, after playing AJ, not only do I feel like they've completely screwed :hobohodo: over, but it now makes EdgeWright even less possible. Not that I thought there was a chance of Capcom making them canon before, but now they've made it near impossible for any future EdgeWright hinting to make much sense. But I don't know, we haven't seen Edgey yet, so we'll have to see.

Awesome fanart in here, guys xD
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Long time lurker and first time poster here. Also a fan of EdgeWright. It's strange, because I've always laughed at Yaoi before. Then I completely changed my mind about it when I played the Phoenix Wright games. They just feel so wright (/lame) to me.

However, after playing AJ, not only do I feel like they've completely screwed :hobohodo: over, but it now makes EdgeWright even less possible. Not that I thought there was a chance of Capcom making them canon before, but now they've made it near impossible for any future EdgeWright hinting to make much sense. But I don't know, we haven't seen Edgey yet, so we'll have to see.

Awesome fanart in here, guys xD


*high fives* :edgy:

Although I wouldn't say it's impossible. Just yeah, probably not very likely. ^_^;; I hope that they bring Edgeworth back in GS5... although that might seem even less likely now that he's getting his own game. O_o
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*high fives* :edgy:

Although I wouldn't say it's impossible. Just yeah, probably not very likely. ^_^;; I hope that they bring Edgeworth back in GS5... although that might seem even less likely now that he's getting his own game. O_o


Wow, I've never actually posted in this thread before. I doubt they'll have Edgeworth in GS5 too. However, I wouldn't mind some strong hinting as to what he has been up to since 3-5 (besides what we'll find out in his game).
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Anyway, I just read the promotional Phoenix Wright manga. Who knew the power of the frilly cravat? Now I want one too. :yuusaku: On another note, it seems that he carries at least one extra cravat. Just in case he needs to "use it" on Phoenix it gets dirty. :hotti:
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On another note, it seems that he carries at least one extra cravat. Just in case he needs to "use it" on Phoenix it gets dirty. :hotti:


I like the way you think. :hotti:
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crouton wrote:
thehypnoticllama wrote:
On another note, it seems that he carries at least one extra cravat. Just in case he needs to "use it" on Phoenix it gets dirty. :hotti:


I like the way you think. :hotti:


Ha ha, of course you would.

I've been reading through the older pages of this thread, and I want to say thanks to everyone that has posted pictures or doujin. All this Gay Edgeworth doujin makes me wonder if a there are any with him straight? And no, I'm not trying to debate whether or not he's gay or make people mad, I just want to know out of curiousity And if there is any, sending some money to a certain someone who is going to Japan so she can buy it for me.
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Ha ha, of course you would.

I've been reading through the older pages of this thread, and I want to say thanks to everyone that has posted pictures or doujin. All this Gay Edgeworth doujin makes me wonder if a there are any with him straight? And no, I'm not trying to debate whether or not he's gay or make people mad, I just want to know out of curiousity And if there is any, sending some money to a certain someone who is going to Japan so she can buy it for me.


Hehe. ^_^

Looking on eBay, I see a few doujinshi that pairs up Edgeworth and Franziska. But that's it. The majority of it is PxE.

Sure I can buy some doujinshi for you. ^_^
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crouton wrote:
Lunaria42 wrote:
Ha ha, of course you would.

I've been reading through the older pages of this thread, and I want to say thanks to everyone that has posted pictures or doujin. All this Gay Edgeworth doujin makes me wonder if a there are any with him straight? And no, I'm not trying to debate whether or not he's gay or make people mad, I just want to know out of curiousity And if there is any, sending some money to a certain someone who is going to Japan so she can buy it for me.


Hehe. ^_^

Looking on eBay, I see a few doujinshi that pairs up Edgeworth and Franziska. But that's it. The majority of it is PxE.

Sure I can buy some doujinshi for you. ^_^


I guess I tried to forget about those. I know some fanartists in Japan draw Edgeworth/Mia or Edgeworth/Maya, but I guess there isn't any in manga form yet. Oh well.

Back to Edgeworth and all his glorious gayety.
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Edgeworth/ franny you say...

Is quite intrigued...
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I guess I tried to forget about those. I know some fanartists in Japan draw Edgeworth/Mia or Edgeworth/Maya, but I guess there isn't any in manga form yet. Oh well.

Back to Edgeworth and all his glorious gayety.


They're probably few and far between. ^_^;; When I went to that doujinshi event in Tokyo, the majority of the doujin I saw was PxE. And lots of KlavierxApollo. *pulls out the guide that she got when she went*

Hrm. From what I can tell, I don't think there was any Edgeworth/Mia or Edgeworth/Maya. Sorry. ^_^;;
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crouton wrote:
Lunaria42 wrote:
I guess I tried to forget about those. I know some fanartists in Japan draw Edgeworth/Mia or Edgeworth/Maya, but I guess there isn't any in manga form yet. Oh well.

Back to Edgeworth and all his glorious gayety.


They're probably few and far between. ^_^;; When I went to that doujinshi event in Tokyo, the majority of the doujin I saw was PxE. And lots of KlavierxApollo. *pulls out the guide that she got when she went*

Hrm. From what I can tell, I don't think there was any Edgeworth/Mia or Edgeworth/Maya. Sorry. ^_^;;


Beggars can't be choosers, and Edgeworth/Phoenix (or Edgeworth/Anyone) is better than no Edgeworth at all.
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It's good to know that we're not crazy in shipping P/E then, as ALMOST ALL OF JAPAN agree with us xD
Or maybe we're all just yaoi freaks.
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