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In 4-4, we learn that Kristoph brought Vera the poisoned nail polish because he saw that she bit her nails when she was nervous.

However... Kristoph saw Vera once. Now, there's two possibilities. Possibility A: This is when Kristoph sees that she bites her nails. Possibility B: This is when Kristoph gives her the nail polish.
However, in PA Kristoph can never give the nail polish, and in PB Kristoph can't know that Vera bites her nails.


So how does this work out?


And I don't think Kristoph always carries around a bottle of poisoned nail polish in case the need arives :nick:
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We don't know WHERE they met. Maybe it was in Kristoph's house?

(Correct me if I remember something wrong.)
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Quote:
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Actually, the client came
once.

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Here... to this studio.

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We'll call that "The Gavin Paradox".

I seriously do think Kristoph always carries around a bottle of poisoned nail polish with him, because he's just that EVIL.
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Maybe Kristoph spied on them a little before requesting the forgery. That's when he found out that Vera bites her nails.
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Is it a teeny bit crazy that Kristoph carries around poisoned nail polish? Maybe. Maybe not.

Perhaps he gave Vera his own bottle. I wouldn't be surprised if he had 100s somewhere.
But before he passed it on, he pulled a bottle of Atroquinine from his pocket, and poisoned it himself.

I could see Kristoph carrying just the lethal dose of Atroquinine in his pocket. Especially during black market dealings like evidence forgery.
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Szabu > Probably. It's the only option that makes sense, considering that Kristoph is already described as the Big Brother type in 4-4.
Still... the Mishams hardly ever leave the house, and I don't think Vera would open the window just so a psychopath could watch her bite her nails...
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There's also the fact that we're supposed to believe:

1.) Vera didn't bite her nails at all for 7 years and
2.) One bottle of nail polish lasted 7 years, even though she constantly paints her nails.
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Saloma wrote:
There's also the fact that we're supposed to believe:

1.) Vera didn't bite her nails at all for 7 years and
2.) One bottle of nail polish lasted 7 years, even though she constantly paints her nails.


She didn't use the nail polish for 7 years. She was only to use it when she went outside.
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Hmm. Could've sworn she did it even in her house, but I guess not. Guess that explains one big thing I didn't get about the case.
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Saloma wrote:
There's also the fact that we're supposed to believe:

1.) Vera didn't bite her nails at all for 7 years and
2.) One bottle of nail polish lasted 7 years, even though she constantly paints her nails.

Except:
1) Vera only bites her nails when nervous, like when she's outside, or talking to strangers.
2) She was instruced only to use the polish while outside.
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Hmm...

That's likely, but then she may never have left the house, therefor died, unless she went out intentionally and maturely. Though by then, she may not remember the face, so, "Mission Accomplished"?
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Even though I was mostly wrong about that, do you really think she wasn't nervous at all for an entire 7 years?
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B.M. wrote:
2) She was instruced only to use the polish while outside.

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She sure was nervous quite a few times, but she can bite her nails safely if she doesn't use the poisoned nail polish. And she was supposed to use the nail polish only when she went outside.
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The only time that she probably used that polish since being given it is, presumably, that one court scene...

My thought is that Kristoph talked about her with Drew, who probably told him about her 'habit' during small talk without thinking much of it - then, when the time came for Kristoph to meet her, all he would have needed is the prepared nail polish.

It's not complex - it's just really, really simple. XD
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How would they have talked? They only met once. And Drew didn't use the phone, only mail.
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D'oh - it's been a while. XD

Isn't there reference to a zoo visit with the client? If so, Kristoph had a good chance to observe her then!
I dunno, I'll need to look over the case again - it made perfect sense to me, at any rate.
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Sebastian Stark wrote:
Isn't there reference to a zoo visit with the client?


No.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/ds/file/930506/53565

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Yeah, I ACTUALLY meant museum...And wow, that'd be two hits to my Ego bar. XDD

Odd, But meh - I assume he simply noticed it and mailed it to her...all we know is that he GAVE it to her, but not necessarily if it was at the time they met!

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I saw it... Or I think I saw
it, when they gave me this.

Vera:
...I saw the Devil's face.


It was given in person.
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Bad Player wrote:
2) She was instruced only to use the polish while outside.

I was replying to this
B.M. wrote:
1) Vera only bites her nails when nervous, like when she's outside, or talking to strangers.

It doesn't make sense along this line of thinking.
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Even though I was mostly wrong about that, do you really think she wasn't nervous at all for an entire 7 years?


The only time it matters if she gets nervous and bites her nails is when she's wearing it--i.e., she's outside.

The only time she went outside in those 7 years were for the trial and to the Gramarye Museum, and we can assume she didn't get nervous at the Gramarye Museum.
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Kristoph uses that brand of nail polish himself. It's not unusual for him to have a bottle of it with him. And if you consider that Kristoph went to commission a forgery and had planned out ahead of time that he would kill the person afterwards, it's not hard to believe that he also brought poison with him. Maybe he intended to apply it somewhere in the house? Who can know~ But it was always Kristoph's intent to cover his crime with murder.

Maybe during his conversation with Vera she told him about not liking to go outside, and he also noticed that she bites her nails. So he slipped the poison in the polish and gave it to her. We know that he told her the polish was a charm to use if she wanted to go outside, which explains why she didn't use it for 7 years - supposedly she never went outside. Maybe she was saving it under the hopes that Troupe Gramarye would come back, and she'd get to see them in person?

Kristoph probably expected that Vera would not leave the studio until she had finished her forgery. But who could expect that she wouldn't use it in 7 years? PLAN BACKFIRE!
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