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There is a total of three cases locked in Edgeworth's past that I think may come up - SL-9, DL-6, and the December 28 trial that came before DL-6 (i.e., Gregory v. Von Karma). I think this would be a good opportunity to bring any one of those cases back - particularly since it means we'd likely see a younger (or, in the latter two, child) Edgeworth. What was the error that led Von Karma to revenge? Did Edgeworth suspect anything when SL-9 happened? What about his mother? Did he interact with any of the other characters prior to Phoenix arriving on the scene (i.e., did he run into any of Grossburg's crew, the Fey clan, or even Franny?)

This is all speculation, of course, but I'd particularly like a chance to play as Gregory Edgeworth against Von Karma. It's the first mentioned trial (chronologically) in the series, and it even have Miles as co-council/in the gallery a la To Kill A Mockingbird (which, oddly enough, is where Gregory's name comes from).
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playing as gregory would be a great idea!!

but unfortunatly...

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So did Mia (kinda) in 3-4, and Phoenix in 2-4. It wouldn't be that hard to lose; the point would be to get Von Karma convicted on falsifying evidence, even if Gregory couldn't win.
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So did Mia (kinda) in 3-4, and Phoenix in 2-4. It wouldn't be that hard to lose; the point would be to get Von Karma convicted on falsifying evidence, even if Gregory couldn't win.


you got a point but still..

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Mia lost because her witness commited suicide
Wright lost Because he wanted to get his client guilty since he actually did it


Well as long as Karma is down it's still a victory in my book!
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Von Karma's imperfection was the penelty he got during the trial.
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I think we've explored the "flashback" cases more than we needed to. We know all the details about DL-6, SL-9, etc, so it really wouldn't be necessary to visit them yet again. Expanding on the lacking points of Edgeworth's past is fine, but I doubt they'd do it through the old cases again.


As for playing as Gregory, that might be rather contradictory to the game. I mean, aside from focusing mostly on Edgeworth, who's a prosecutor, I don't really see the point in playing as his father. If he is to be included, I think it would probably be through dialogue.
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Von Karma's imperfection was the penelty he got during the trial.

Objection!

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The only blemish on von Karma's perfect life is that bullet in his shoulder. And that wasn't even his fault.


As for flashback cases... Maybe. But to expand on Gumshoe and that mystery girl.
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Well, considering that there might not even be any courtroom scenes in this game, it would be revisiting the flashback cases in a totally different perspective that hasn't been explored yet. So, for example, Edgeworth could be accompanying his father while investigating a murder scene and that could be a tutorial case right there. I highly doubt that would happen, but thinking about Gregory being in the game would be pretty cool. :edgy:
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Well, considering that there might not even be any courtroom scenes in this game, it would be revisiting the flashback cases in a totally different perspective that hasn't been explored yet. So, for example, Edgeworth could be accompanying his father while investigating a murder scene and that could be a tutorial case right there. I highly doubt that would happen, but thinking about Gregory being in the game would be pretty cool. :edgy:


I actually really like that idea o.o We probably have to deduce what happened in the investigation phase (like we do in the courtroom phase, like, "ZOMG! I found this evidence! But I think it contradicts something I've already found..." [Present contradictory evidence])

It could even be that case on Dec 28 that was Gregory vs Manny. That would be fun ^_^
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Playing as Gregory would be cool. I'd like to see what he was like. Most likely, though, it would get in the way of the storyline of GK.

I'd love to at least see another picture of Greg. Edgey has to have one, somewhere...
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If that first case was child!Edgy helping Gregory, I think it would be more of an "I've already solved this case but I know you want to become an attorney, so why don't you try to solve it yourself and get some practice?" thing, not actual help.
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If that first case was child!Edgy helping Gregory, I think it would be more of an "I've already solved this case but I know you want to become an attorney, so why don't you try to solve it yourself and get some practice?" thing, not actual help.


So Edgy would be co-council, but learning from his Dad rather than vice-versa?
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The problem with playing as Gregory is that the court system when Gregory was an attorney was actually fairly sane.
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If you played as Gregory, it wouldn't be Turnabout Prosecutor anymore B:

We don't know how many cases there are going to be, or even what the ultimate point of the game is (are they going to tie Edgeworth to the AJ arc somehow? Is it just some fun Edgey cases that won't have an greater impact on the plot?). It's hard to say if they'll have the time/energy/inclination to create an entire extra extra set of sprites to run around the game with. It might depend on how many sprites in general the game will have.

The screenshots we've seen so far have used Edgey's normal court pose. Does that mean he'll use more? Headshaking and tsking and OOFing? If they're reusing a lot of poses they might be able to invest time in another set for a second protagonist.

It might be really cool if they did add a second protagonist, but I would much rather it be someone new, maybe even a prosecutor they could then use in GS5. It's good for them to be focusing on a fan favorite like Edgeworth to try and "win back" the approval of the fans who weren't thrilled with AA4, but I don't want them to get so involved that they forget Apollo and his cast entirely. :(
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Personally, I hope that we get flashback cases (or at the very least, mere flashbacks) that detail Edgeworth's history with Gumshoe. There has to be more to their bond of trust than the first three games let on.
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It would be good to play as greg


He could show the court the false evidence von karma has, as a result he gets penalised.

Then he loses then the game returns to the present.

That's how I imagine it would work.
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I am somewhat curious about what the case where Manny got penalized was actually about. It's the only past trial where we never really find out what went on.
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It might be really cool if they did add a second protagonist, but I would much rather it be someone new, maybe even a prosecutor they could then use in GS5. It's good for them to be focusing on a fan favorite like Edgeworth to try and "win back" the approval of the fans who weren't thrilled with AA4, but I don't want them to get so involved that they forget Apollo and his cast entirely. :(


I agree. Edgeworth having his own game should be enough to satisfiy everyone who was upset about AJ. Let's hope Capcom agrees with this and doesn't try anything so insane with GS5. Maybe that's why they haven't worked on the game? They're probably looking to see what the fan reaction to GK is first.
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I don't know about a case, but a flashback with Gregory would be awesome! ^_^ I would love to know what he was like.
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I don't know about a case, but a flashback with Gregory would be awesome! ^_^ I would love to know what he was like.


Same here. :D Was he as uptight as Edgey? XD
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I don't know about a case, but a flashback with Gregory would be awesome! ^_^ I would love to know what he was like.


Same here. :D Was he as uptight as Edgey? XD


This may be fan fiction influence, but I'd like to think that Gregory was dedicated but also had a softer, more playful side. I imagine that Edgeworth learned to be uptight because of von Karma.
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This may be fan fiction influence, but I'd like to think that Gregory was dedicated but also had a softer, more playful side. I imagine that Edgeworth learned to be uptight because of von Karma.


I imagine that as well. ^_^;; Gregory Edgeworth was probably a cool dad. ^_^

You and I are probably reading the same fanfics. Heh.
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This may be fan fiction influence, but I'd like to think that Gregory was dedicated but also had a softer, more playful side. I imagine that Edgeworth learned to be uptight because of von Karma.


I imagine that as well. ^_^;; Gregory Edgeworth was probably a cool dad. ^_^

You and I are probably reading the same fanfics. Heh.


Yeah probably. Are you reading What the Fuck Do We Do Now? Because that's pretty much where I get my impression of what Gregory is like.
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Yeah probably. Are you reading What the Fuck Do We Do Now? Because that's pretty much where I get my impression of what Gregory is like.


Yep! I sure am reading/following that one. :D That's exactly where I get my impression of Gregory as well. XD
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Yeah probably. Are you reading What the Fuck Do We Do Now? Because that's pretty much where I get my impression of what Gregory is like.


Yep! I sure am reading/following that one. :D That's exactly where I get my impression of Gregory as well. XD


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Von Karma's imperfection was the penelty he got during the trial.


And that imperfection was the fact of the unexpected. He never expected that he was being accused of faulty evidence. I would like to see a trial between von Karma and Gregory.
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This may be fan fiction influence, but I'd like to think that Gregory was dedicated but also had a softer, more playful side. I imagine that Edgeworth learned to be uptight because of von Karma.


I might have to dispute that. Look at what happened at the class trial. He was wearing a suit even then! I've always thought his emotional repression came from Von Karma, but his essential uptightness I think is something he always had.
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I might have to dispute that. Look at what happened at the class trial. He was wearing a suit even then! I've always thought his emotional repression came from Von Karma, but his essential uptightness I think is something he always had.


That's why I said it was probably the fan fiction influence. However, at nine years old some children do have a choice of what to wear to school. Therefore, Edgeworth could have chosen those kind of clothes because he looks up to his father (who I would imagine wears suits to his job.) Like you said, he could be naturally uptight. Now where he gets that from is something we may never know. He could have gotten it from his mother for all we know. I assume she died when he was very young or at birth because she is never mentioned, but I don't think that would rule out him being like her.
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DL-6: Case where Edgeworth lost his father and it left a mark in him thinking he was the true murderer.
Dec. 28: Trail where Yanni Yogi had no choice but to pretend to be a man with brain damage.
SL-9: Edgeworth's first BIG Case. It was his first trail where he used forged evidence he didn't even know it was forged.

Well, I can see various flashbacks of DL-6 since in JFA and T&T he still carried some injuries with him, such as the ground curling when earthquakes stike.
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Maybe we will see Edgeworth's side of 2-4.
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