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Thought this might be the right section. If not sorry.

So, which magician do you think is the bigger jerk? Maximillion Galactica or Zak Gramarye? Both are magicians and both are huge jerks. Max is a jerk in the sense that he's full of himself and thinks all are beneith him. Zak's just a huge arsehole. But who out of them is the bigger jerk? Myself I'm going to go with Zak, because to be fair to Max he does get somewhat better towards the end of 2-3, or at least he seems to. Though at the same time, to be fair to Zak he does write that note confessing to his "crime" to take the heat off of Valant, but that's about the only nice thing he does.

But what to others think? Let's discuss this shall we?
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I think Max because he was still really cocky about him being the World's best magician at the end of 2-3.
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I loved Max, honestly. :pshhh: Zak...not so much.

Max may have been cocky but he didn't try to cheat you both in and out of court. And leave you up a creek in court for that matter. >_>

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Max... well, Max isn't my favorite character. His fabulous attitude, abundance of glitter and pink, and those star tattoos kind of creep me out.
Zak, on the other hand... is a big jerkhole. Anything beyond would be spoilers.

Definitely Zak.
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Zak, no contest.

Max is an idiot, but he is a good man at heart, while Zak is a huge asshole.
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I'm not really sure who to pick, but who ever it is, it's not Zak. Sure, he jokes around but I don't see why he's a jerk.
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Zak is definitely the bigger jerk.O_O Max is a little conceited, but he's really trying to help the other members of the circus have pride in their work, which is something they themselves realize And in the end, even though he could leave the small-time circus and get a better-paying job, he opts to stay.

Zak inadvertantly ruined Phoenix's life, and when he finally returns, he plots to do so again, even after the man does him a favor and has been caring for his only child for the past seven years. It doesn't even seem to matter that destroying that legacy would likely leave Phoenix without money to support Trucy.
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Szabu wrote:
Zak, no contest.

Max is an idiot, but he is a good man at heart, while Zak is a huge asshole.


This.


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I'm not really sure who to pick, but who ever it is, it's not Zak. Sure, he jokes around but I don't see why he's a jerk.


Look at the comic of the first post of this.
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:garyuu: Totally Kristoph. He hates everyone.
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Zak. Max wanted to motivate the other circus members because he felt that they would be happier if they gained more acclaim.
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:garyuu: Totally Kristoph. He hates everyone.


I agree though :hobohodo: was kinda of a jerk in GS4 *shot*
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Klavier was sort of a jerk too.
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Everyone in GS4 was a dick to everyone else.
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I haven't play the GS4 yet, but I don't hate Max. In fact, I kinda like him :edgy:
He's arrogant and full of himself but somehow I find he's funny~
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Whaaaaaat, Max was awesome! Obviously Zak was the bigger jerk.

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I think that :varanbaran: Valant was a bigger jerk than Zak
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DramaticaXIV2 wrote:
Klavier was sort of a jerk too.

It's not that he's a jerk. He's just a perfectionist fop who never takes the blame for anything.


Oh wait, nvm.
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Pickens wrote:
Everyone in GS4 was a dick to everyone else.


How was that person a jerk? :grey:
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Zak and Valant, no contest.

Stupid magicians.
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I'd say Zak. Max never ruined too many lives. The best argument for Max is his attitude and for hitting Ben, but Zak is extremely stubborn and he hit Olga. As well, Zak has all of those jerkish characteristics seen in Peachi's comic.
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Zak, for ruining Phoenix's career and forcing his daughter on him.

Besides, Max can't be a jerk because he's ABSOLUTELY FABULOUS!! :pshhh:
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Max isn't a Jerk XD IMO at least..
he uses that attitude to motivate his um...fellow circus people. Not the best method but he doesn't really mean it.

And to be honest, I don't think Zak's an asshole either, although the whole 'leave Trucy behind' thing kinda irks me. But if Apollo was also left behind well then I think they left them behind for a reason so.
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76_trombone wrote:
I think that :varanbaran: Valant was a bigger jerk than Zak


THIS!

And Magnifi is just as bad as Valant
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Zak, hiding the diary page and leading to Phoenix losing his badge.
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It's not Zak's fault Phoenix lost his badge, it's Kristoph's.O_O Zak did keep the page, hidden, but it's not like he knew what the paper Phoenix had been handed was. And by the time he did, showing the true paper just would have confirmed the one Phoenix had presented was a forgery anyway. He couldn't risk that paper being taken as evidence either. If he needed to "disappear", it was important that he have that paper with him.
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Zak is a bigger jerk.
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zak is the asshole in the sense that 1 he knew using phoenix in court would end up literally wrecking his life 2 i forgot the reason...when zak tries to cheat him in poker 3 "everything for that guy is competition"

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TheSteelSamurai wrote:
Zak is definitely the bigger jerk.O_O Max is a little conceited, but he's really trying to help the other members of the circus have pride in their work, which is something they themselves realize And in the end, even though he could leave the small-time circus and get a better-paying job, he opts to stay.

Zak inadvertantly ruined Phoenix's life, and when he finally returns, he plots to do so again, even after the man does him a favor and has been caring for his only child for the past seven years. It doesn't even seem to matter that destroying that legacy would likely leave Phoenix without money to support Trucy.


This.

Plus, I'm a Max fangirl anyway, so... ^^;
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Max isn't really a bad guy. Sure he is a little arrogant, but he comes around at the end of 2-3. I didn't view Zak as a huge jerk, but still, leaving his only daughter behind seemed inexcusable. So, I guess I would say Zak.
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I never understood why Zak planned to ruin Phoenix again. He also hit Olga Orly with a bottle. Maybe he was just... really rash. :eh?:
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Max was arrogant, but well-meaning. Zak tried to ruin everyone's life.
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Zak :(((
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TheSteelSamurai wrote:
He couldn't risk that paper being taken as evidence either. If he needed to "disappear", it was important that he have that paper with him.


But he wouldn't *need* to disappear at all if he had told Phoenix the full truth up front. He could have been found innocent. :yogi: He's definately more of a jerk than Max.

But really I think Magnifi is the biggest jerk. What kind of man ships his half-dead daughter to a foreign contry and then blackmails her husband? Seriously, wtf dude. :Temsai:
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After reading this, I have come to the conclusion that capcom hates male magicians... female magicians are apparently ok with them though :/

anyways, I'd have to go with zak... at least max admits that he's spoiled rotten...
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Magnifi is the biggest of them all. That guy's not just a jerk, he's a downright bas#$rd.

And Max is much less of a jerk than one may think. At least he admits it. Just because he has a gigantic ego doesn't mean he can compete with Zak/Valant (depending on how you see that story) or even Magnifi.

If ego = jerk, then the Von Karma family wins by a ton.

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Zak for sure D:
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Max. I absolutly can not stand him. (Except in the 'Billy Bob' bits)
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Max. I absolutly can not stand him. (Except in the 'Billy Bob' bits)


;___; He wasn't THAT bad...
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