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The end result is that Thalassa gets the death sentence. :maya:

YES YES YES YES YES!


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Phoenix becomes Attorney again. Apollo isn't main character anymore.
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Phoenix becomes Attorney again. Apollo isn't main character anymore.


Stupid concept to me.

Also I liked Thalassa why does she have to die :larry:
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Herr Blondie wrote:
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Phoenix becomes Attorney again. Apollo isn't main character anymore.


Stupid concept to me.

Funny, I could say the same about Apollo Justice as a whole. In fact, that's why the stance of getting rid of Apollo is popular, methinks...
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Phoenix becomes Attorney again. Apollo isn't main character anymore.


Stupid concept to me.

Funny, I could say the same about Apollo Justice as a whole. In fact, that's why the stance of getting rid of Apollo is popular, methinks...


Making a new character, more stupid than just wasting a whole game on said character to turn it back? Erm, no.
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YAY! One of my topics is now three pages long

(Okay I know I'm sad but who cares)

I think Phoenix should come back as the new Udgy :udgy:
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Phoenix as the Judge would be kinda funny I agree.
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DramaticaXIV2 wrote:
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Funny, I could say the same about Apollo Justice as a whole. In fact, that's why the stance of getting rid of Apollo is popular, methinks...


Making a new character, more stupid than just wasting a whole game on said character to turn it back? Erm, no.

No, making a bland character, derailing your main for no reason other than to put him in that spot, and replacing the rest of your cast thus removing all reason for previous fans to play it is more stupid than " just wasting a whole game on said character to turn it back".
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Funny, I could say the same about Apollo Justice as a whole. In fact, that's why the stance of getting rid of Apollo is popular, methinks...


Making a new character, more stupid than just wasting a whole game on said character to turn it back? Erm, no.

No, making a bland character, derailing your main for no reason other than to put him in that spot, and replacing the rest of your cast thus removing all reason for previous fans to play it is more stupid than " just wasting a whole game on said character to turn it back".


Riddle me this, what is there...left of Phoenix personal story...to exploit? Expand upon?

His past was covered.
His mentor's past was covered.
His Lovelife is covered.
His rivals and enemies have been covered.
His best friends and wards have been done to death.

It's not discarding a main for no reason, it's discarding a main character who has been drained and used up as the lawyer role. They couldn't make any decent use of his past since it's already done extensively. Theres no point in bringing in a new prosecutor as unless Dahlia has another relative or lover willing to take to the courtroom just for revenge against Phoenix then a completely unconnected prosecutor would be a bad move.

Think about it.
Edgeworth: Definate links to Nick's past best buds effectively - great potential
Franny: Seeking revenge for her father's sentancing at the hands of Phoenix Wright in an attempt to restore the good Von Karma name.
Godot: Blames Phoenix for the death of his beloved and seeks to crush him for it, though he shares a common enemy in Dahlia.

Who is going to be brought in with some important canonical connection (I'm thinking to Dahlia would be best) to be the new prosecutor?
Not saying it's impossible (I can't think of anything worthwhile) but I don't think it is so they discard a spent character in favour of a new character who can be expanded upon with his mentor, his past, his friendships, his family there's so much more potential with Apollo.
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LIKE t@t i should be some cases pheonix wright some apollo?
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LIKE t@t i should be some cases pheonix wright some apollo?


Hmm... I object to this. Phoenix already got far too much limelight in AJ. Let the guy have his own game.
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Riddle me this, what is there...left of Phoenix personal story...to exploit? Expand upon?

If they actually cared, they'd be able to come up with something FITTING for Phoenix. Though perhaps they just need to learn the lesson Lucas didn't- "When you have a trilogy of masterpieces, don't screw it up." (Ugh, the prequels, the SE's [Han shot first dammit!]... The horror.)
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Riddle me this, what is there...left of Phoenix personal story...to exploit? Expand upon?

If they actually cared, they'd be able to come up with something FITTING for Phoenix. Though perhaps they just need to learn the lesson Lucas didn't- "When you have a trilogy of masterpieces, don't screw it up."


Mind explaining how they (Capcom, not Lucas) screwed up the original trilogy? This is a new story, one that Phoenix just happens to be in.

Also, they already intentionally cleared everything up with Nick. It wouldn't make sense if they suddenly went "NOW FOR SOMETHING WE DIDN'T TELL YOU ABOUT! Once, Phoenix had a friend named Jeff..."
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RobbieValiant wrote:
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Riddle me this, what is there...left of Phoenix personal story...to exploit? Expand upon?

If they actually cared, they'd be able to come up with something FITTING for Phoenix. Though perhaps they just need to learn the lesson Lucas didn't- "When you have a trilogy of masterpieces, don't screw it up." (Ugh, the prequels, the SE's [Han shot first dammit!]... The horror.)


Ahem...not answering my question. I asked what YOU thought they could do with Phoenix since you DO care enough apparently otherwise you wouldn't be arguing this case. What left is there to expand upon Phoenix's life and those connected to him.
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DramaticaXIV2 wrote:
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Riddle me this, what is there...left of Phoenix personal story...to exploit? Expand upon?

If they actually cared, they'd be able to come up with something FITTING for Phoenix. Though perhaps they just need to learn the lesson Lucas didn't- "When you have a trilogy of masterpieces, don't screw it up."


Mind explaining how they (Capcom, not Lucas) screwed up the original trilogy? This is a new story, one that Phoenix just happens to be in.

Also, they already intentionally cleared everything up with Nick. It wouldn't make sense if they suddenly went "NOW FOR SOMETHING WE DIDN'T TELL YOU ABOUT! Once, Phoenix had a friend named Jeff..."

WHAT THEY DID TO NICK. You know, the abomination? :hobohodo:

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Oh, come on. That doesn't alter the original trilogy in the slightest.

I'm sure Capcom weren't willing to throw their main character away. However, sad as it may be, they did. I'm not sure why, but they did. At least it makes for interesting plot.

Anyway, please answer Blondie's question.
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Herr Blondie wrote:
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Riddle me this, what is there...left of Phoenix personal story...to exploit? Expand upon?

If they actually cared, they'd be able to come up with something FITTING for Phoenix. Though perhaps they just need to learn the lesson Lucas didn't- "When you have a trilogy of masterpieces, don't screw it up." (Ugh, the prequels, the SE's [Han shot first dammit!]... The horror.)


Ahem...not answering my question. I asked what YOU thought they could do with Phoenix since you DO care enough apparently otherwise you wouldn't be arguing this case. What left is there to expand upon Phoenix's life and those connected to him.

His future. As in, a proper future, not :hobohodo:. Maybe he takes on an apprentice who doesn't have Bella Swan syndrome* WITHOUT undergoing the damn character assassination of AJ. And frankly, what's wrong with an unconnected prosecutor, again?

* Bella Swan Syndrome- A character who is intentionally bland or vague, as to allow people to "identify" via essentially placing themself in that character's role.

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Oh, come on. That doesn't alter the original trilogy in the slightest.

Yes, it does. It makes the ending of T&T into a mocking reprise of it all. It RUINS it.
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His future. As in, a proper future, not :hobohodo:.


HOLD IT RIGHT THERE.
I know it's hard, as I've said. However, Phoenix was unlucky, and Hobohodou was his proper future. Sorry, better luck next time, but LIVE WITH IT.

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Oh, come on. That doesn't alter the original trilogy in the slightest.

Yes, it does. It makes the ending of T&T into a mocking reprise of it all. It RUINS it.


No, it doesn't. It doesn't change T&T's ending at all! It adds to the story, and the story's sad. You can believe it's an alternate universe, (false as it is) if you like. I won't stop you. An alternate universe where Phoenix died happy, and nothing happened. A universe where Capcom believes happens, but you don't.
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LIVE WITH IT.

No. I will not and do not have to like or even accept crap from Capcom. And if more people would take a stand, maybe Capcom wouldn't try crap like AJAA.
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LIVE WITH IT.

No. I will not and do not have to like or even accept crap from Capcom. And if more people would take a stand, maybe Capcom wouldn't try crap like AJAA.


Crap, huh? Capcom, knows what they're doing. If you can't accept that one of your favourite characters took a fall, then I suggest you GTFO.

*sigh* I will try to avoid posting in this forum, with the risks of upsetting you further. Just believe what you want...
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His future. As in, a proper future, not :hobohodo:. Maybe he takes on an apprentice who doesn't have Bella Swan syndrome* WITHOUT undergoing the damn character assassination of AJ. And frankly, what's wrong with an unconnected prosecutor, again?

* Bella Swan Syndrome- A character who is intentionally bland or vague, as to allow people to "identify" via essentially placing themself in that character's role.


Thats not good enough for me, an unconnected prosecutor is the equivalent of putting Winston Payne as the prosecutor for every case.
Boiling down to it in every training case Payne did pile on pressure to the Attorneys however he was pathetic and the player knew he posed no threat. It's essentially slamming Generic_Prosecutor_One against Phoenix/Apollo someone who has no relevance to the plot and merely states the evidence. You don't hate him, you don't care for him, you don't even see him outside of court because he's Generic_Prosecutor_One and so doesn't associate with characters because he's unconnected. With unconnected unimportant prosecutors the series would die, imagine replacing Edgeworth with Generic_Prosecutor_One. Prosecutors are just as important as main characters themselves.

Apollo's blandless was simply down to the unfortunate thing of having Phoenix in AJ (Don't get me wrong...I like Phoenix's 'Mystic Hobo' style now and I'm glad he's there) but it has caused all these problems so AJ turned out to be a game mostly tieing up any loose ends about Nick while introducing Apollo.

There is still plenty of potential for Apollo's story to expand...unlike Nick's.

As you claim you want to know about Nick's real future...which is a stupid argument of yours as it's not fact it's just your own dissatisfaction at the canonical future provided. All the great plots are built on past or present events...never have I seen in GS a plot that rocked because of it's future relevance.

1-4 and 1-5 Were awesome because of the PAST connections Nick Edgeworth and...to a lesser extent Larry shared in childhood and the trauma Edgeworth suffered IN THE PAST.

2-4 Was incredible because of the tension in the present and because of the return of Edgeworth...a prosecutor from the past who's strongly CONNECTED to Phoenix.

3-5 One of the greatest cases ever is a prime example of my point as it draws extremely on the past with all previous prosecutors and even undead villains and attorney's from past games showed up to make it an awesome case.

How would you build a story about Phoenix on his future? It wouldn't work, Phoenix is but an empty husk now, he's done with the goofy lawyer role but he has been converted to a different role in GS4 so essentially, they've given him a little more potential.

Since (unfortunately) Apollo wasn't focused much on in AJ1 there is still plenty of ground to be covered with him.

It's simply a matter of they couldn't use Phoenix as a lawyer for another game after tieing everything up so nicely at the end of GS3


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@RobbieValiant: Do you want this game to be realistic? People change.

I believe that the first half of the first case of AJ was meant to make you hate him. You think he is changed too much. But then he appears in your co council.

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I saw the blue in his eyes there, The smirk on his face, and knew he was still the same inside, no matter how his appearance changed.

I think he had more character in AJ than in any of the previous games. Yet it was just expanding on what was already there. Sure, he changed. But after all he went through, what do you expect?
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@RobbieValiant: Do you want this game to be realistic?

Frankly? No. Not if "realism" is code for "get rid of all the good characters, and make the ones they don't wildly different for no good reason"."
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Hmm.
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*sigh* I will try to avoid posting in this forum, with the risks of upsetting you further. Just believe what you want...

Disregard that, lemme just say it:
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[quote= RobbieValient]His future. As in, a proper future, not :hobohodo:. Maybe he takes on an apprentice who doesn't have Bella Swan syndrome* WITHOUT undergoing the damn character assassination of AJ. And frankly, what's wrong with an unconnected prosecutor, again?

* Bella Swan Syndrome- A character who is intentionally bland or vague, as to allow people to "identify" via essentially placing themself in that character's role.


Thats not good enough for me, an unconnected prosecutor is the equivalent of putting Winston Payne as the prosecutor for every case.
Boiling down to it in every training case Payne did pile on pressure to the Attorneys however he was pathetic and the player knew he posed no threat. It's essentially slamming Generic_Prosecutor_One against Phoenix/Apollo someone who has no relevance to the plot and merely states the evidence. You don't hate him, you don't care for him, you don't even see him outside of court because he's Generic_Prosecutor_One and so doesn't associate with characters because he's unconnected. With unconnected unimportant prosecutors the series would die, imagine replacing Edgeworth with Generic_Prosecutor_One. Prosecutors are just as important as main characters themselves.

Apollo's blandless was simply down to the unfortunate thing of having Phoenix in AJ (Don't get me wrong...I like Phoenix's 'Mystic Hobo' style now and I'm glad he's there) but it has caused all these problems so AJ turned out to be a game mostly tieing up any loose ends about Nick while introducing Apollo.

There is still plenty of potential for Apollo's story to expand...unlike Nick's.

As you claim you want to know about Nick's real future...which is a stupid argument of yours as it's not fact it's just your own dissatisfaction at the canonical future provided. All the great plots are built on past or present events...never have I seen in GS a plot that rocked because of it's future relevance.

1-4 and 1-5 Were awesome because of the PAST connections Nick Edgeworth and...to a lesser extent Larry shared in childhood and the trauma Edgeworth suffered IN THE PAST.

2-4 Was incredible because of the tension in the present and because of the return of Edgeworth...a prosecutor from the past who's strongly CONNECTED to Phoenix.

3-5 One of the greatest cases ever is a prime example of my point as it draws extremely on the past with all previous prosecutors and even undead villains and attorney's from past games showed up to make it an awesome case.

How would you build a story about Phoenix on his future? It wouldn't work, Phoenix is but an empty husk now, he's done with the goofy lawyer role but he has been converted to a different role in GS4 so essentially, they've given him a little more potential.

Since (unfortunately) Apollo wasn't focused much on in AJ1 there is still plenty of ground to be covered with him.

It's simply a matter of they couldn't use Phoenix as a lawyer for another game after tieing everything up so nicely at the end of GS3


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@RobbieValiant: Do you want this game to be realistic? People change.


I believe that the first half of the first case of AJ was meant to make you hate him. You think he is changed too much. But then he appears in your co council.

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I saw the blue in his eyes there, The smirk on his face, and knew he was still the same inside, no matter how his appearance changed.

I think he had more character in AJ than in any of the previous games. Yet it was just expanding on what was already there. Sure, he changed. But after all he went through, what do you expect?

this. That's what I've been trying to say...

CUT: EXCUSE ME? Phoenix's game is OVER, it would be ludicrous NOT to get rid of all the characters! The new ones can be just as good, if not better!
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Yeah it would actually have saved a lot of trouble if the characters that did occur didn't show.

Ema: Personally just cause I hate older Ema's guts.
Phoenix: Just because it probably woulda cut back on all these problems people have with it. :sadshoe:
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No, what would be ludicrous would be to attempt to top it. AJAA is to the Phoenix arc as The Phantom Menace is to Star Wars, except worse, because, being a prequel, Phantom Menace couldn't invalidate or ruin the original trilogy. (Lucas had to do that separately... <<)
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I could say the opposite. As AJ is a sequel that fits in with the other games, it's better than a prequel.

Look, as far as I'm aware, you're upset that Phoenix lost his badge, and that's it. I find this very immature, as, as I said, not everything has a happy ending. I realise that you are upset that Phoenix sort of got ruined, I can understand it if it happened to my favourite character, but, it's the way things are, and I'm sorry about it. You can just ignore the AJ games and accept the games as a trilogy, nothing going on after it, if you like. But you'll have to move on.
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Your not giving me any reason to change my mind or see otherwise Robbie.

(Personally I liked Phantom Menace)

It does seem like it's just your own reluctance to accept Phoenix's new role in life.
Personally I like it...he seems kinda untouchable as a hobo besides why are you worried, Apollo cleared his name in the end for all you know in AJ2 he could have his badge back.....thats not to say I think he should get a chance to defend in the main character spot again.

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No, I also hate Apollo for basically being Scrappy Doo in lawyer form.
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No, I also hate Apollo for basically being Scrappy Doo in lawyer form.


Well thats your personal opinion of him
Of course it's gonna be hard to follow up from such a developed character as Phoenix. He's got such a massive fanbase it's only natural people are gonna be sceptical of him. Nonetheless we should all approach him with an open mind and expect great things :garyuu:
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No, I also hate Apollo for basically being Scrappy Doo in lawyer form.


Well, okay. Again, attached to Phoenix, I can understand. I still don't find AJ unacceptable.
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No, I also hate Apollo for basically being Scrappy Doo in lawyer form.


Just move on already, Robbie and accept it. If you can't, then don't come back.

Also, just for the sake of proving you wrong again, Scrappy was actually RELATED to Scooby, where Apollo isn't to Phoenix. Now, we think Apollo is a good game and you don't (despite the fact thst you refuse to play the whole thing), so either stop being a butthurt original trilogy fanboy or GTFO.
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No, I also hate Apollo for basically being Scrappy Doo in lawyer form.


Just move on already, Robbie and accept it. If you can't, then don't come back.

Also, just for the sake of proving you wrong again, Scrappy was actually RELATED to Scooby, where Apollo isn't to Phoenix. Now, we think Apollo is a good game and you don't (despite the fact thst you refuse to play the whole thing), so either stop being a butthurt original trilogy fanboy or GTFO.

I meant personality and role-wise, genius.
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No, I also hate Apollo for basically being Scrappy Doo in lawyer form.


Just move on already, Robbie and accept it. If you can't, then don't come back.

Also, just for the sake of proving you wrong again, Scrappy was actually RELATED to Scooby, where Apollo isn't to Phoenix. Now, we think Apollo is a good game and you don't (despite the fact thst you refuse to play the whole thing), so either stop being a butthurt original trilogy fanboy or GTFO.

I meant personality and role-wise, genius.


Hmm? I thought you said Apollo had no personality?

But what about the rest of the post?
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No, I also hate Apollo for basically being Scrappy Doo in lawyer form.


Just move on already, Robbie and accept it. If you can't, then don't come back.

Also, just for the sake of proving you wrong again, Scrappy was actually RELATED to Scooby, where Apollo isn't to Phoenix. Now, we think Apollo is a good game and you don't (despite the fact thst you refuse to play the whole thing), so either stop being a butthurt original trilogy fanboy or GTFO.

I meant personality and role-wise, genius.


Ummm role wise in this metaphor would make Hobo Nick Scooby and Apollo Scrappy right?
Well I don't recall either of them acting like that personality wise and Apollo never struck me as a smaller braver version of Nick....on the contrary Nick seemed calmer than he'd ever been while Apollo was the panicky one.
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Just move on already, Robbie and accept it. If you can't, then don't come back.

Also, just for the sake of proving you wrong again, Scrappy was actually RELATED to Scooby, where Apollo isn't to Phoenix. Now, we think Apollo is a good game and you don't (despite the fact thst you refuse to play the whole thing), so either stop being a butthurt original trilogy fanboy or GTFO.

I meant personality and role-wise, genius.


Hmm? I thought you said Apollo had no personality?

But what about the rest of the post?

I didn't say none, I said it was vague. And I can't really comment, the first case turned me off enough to drop it. Though the other cases sounded well enough, judging by the case files, if you put in decent characters.

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I meant personality and role-wise, genius.


Ummm role wise in this metaphor would make Hobo Nick Scooby and Apollo Scrappy right?
Well I don't recall either of them acting like that personality wise and Apollo never struck me as a smaller braver version of Nick....on the contrary Nick seemed calmer than he'd ever been while Apollo was the panicky one.


Apollo just for some reason struck me as more confident/arrogant, and he's also a younger 'replacement' that, similarly to Scrappy and the retooling of Scooby Doo to fit him, got rid of the rest of the main cast. (When Scrappy came, Daphne, Velma, and Fred were all dropped initially.) Now I think of it, he also makes me think of Wesley Crusher, to some degree.

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I'd like to have Wright present but out of the way, like showing up in the courthouse as a fellow lawyer from time to time but being too busy to hang around with Apollo. And yes, I think that the first case in the game should be Pheonix's reinstatement mock trial but then end his involvement in the major story.

As to the new prosecutor, maybe it could be someone Apollo made fun of in law school or something?
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RobbieValiant wrote:
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I meant personality and role-wise, genius.


Hmm? I thought you said Apollo had no personality?

But what about the rest of the post?

I didn't say none, I said it was vague. And I can't really comment, the first case turned me off enough to drop it. Though the other cases sounded well enough, judging by the case files, if you put in decent characters.


Except the cases wouldn't work with other characters. They're decent enough. Especially *shot early*

Anyway, what point of the first case did you drop it? As Jibber said, Phoenix is more like his old self than he seems at first.

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Apollo just for some reason struck me as more confident/arrogant, and he's also a younger 'replacement' that, similarly to Scrappy and the retooling of Scooby Doo to fit him, got rid of the rest of the main cast. (When Scrappy came, Daphne, Velma, and Fred were all dropped initially.)


Hmm? Apollo more confident and arrogant? Ha, are you sure you even played part of the first case? :godot:

(Note, I'm kidding. I just don't know anyone who would think that. :yuusaku: )
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Well again Robbie (though your diehard defence is valiant) I have to disagree.

While some of these metaphors of yours confuse me (I don't know Star Wars in depth) I know Scooby doo enough to say Apollo doesn't have enough elements of scrappy doo to qualify as a comparison.

For one thing he's certainly not as optimistic and happy as Scrappy, he's probably even more sceptical than Phoenix was. Personally I blame the influence of Kristoph. But nonetheless the character disappearence isn't such a big deal I mean it's an entirely new game they need a new cast really.

I think it'll probably be a buddy of Kristophs who's a new prosecutor next time.
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I think it'll probably be a buddy of Kristophs who's a new prosecutor next time.


Nah, I think we've had enough connections to Kristoph so far.

(i.e. one, yes. But... hmm...)

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Well again Robbie (though your diehard defence is valiant) I have to disagree.

While some of these metaphors of yours confuse me (I don't know Star Wars in depth) I know Scooby doo enough to say Apollo doesn't have enough elements of scrappy doo to qualify as a comparison.

For one thing he's certainly not as optimistic and happy as Scrappy, he's probably even more sceptical than Phoenix was. Personally I blame the influence of Kristoph. But nonetheless the character disappearence isn't such a big deal I mean it's an entirely new game they need a new cast really.


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