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You know the "fixed", "biased" "contests" Gamefaqs does several times a year. Phoenix Wright (which game is unclear but I assume the fact that the entry is "Phoenix Wright" means it'll represent all three as well as AJ) is listed in the 2004-2006 bracket. Everyone knows abour Court Records. Even if the Ace Attorney doesn't make it to the final round let's do our best to get him as far as we can!

Like the last 3 contests I'm just entering for fun and like the last 2 contests I'm witholding who I think will win until only 2 people are left standing =D

Me personally, the Gamefaqs Community is too biased towards specific genres, franchises and games to really take any of their contests seriously or fair. They cry when their picks get eliminated and cry when something they don't know well does. I think Gamefaqs should quit doing these contests knowing regardless of what they do, they can't please anybody >.>;
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Yeah, chances are, something like Halo 3 or MSG4 will win, but we can try.
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I did the actual contest entry.
I hope for tetris to win XD
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I've got PW making it just through the first round... which probably won't happen anyway, have you seen the other games it's against? ^_^;;

But, I'm still going to vote the hell out of it!!
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with any luck, it will be Halo 3 (or any of the damn Halo games)

pffft. I vote Fatal Frame *shot*
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The way I see it, most of the Entries are a joke and games that should be there aren't. I mean come on: Squeenix has most of their Final Fantasy Games represented (of which only 1, 4, 6, 7 and 10 really should be there at the most), all three Halo games are up (though most feel Halo 2 was the best of the three excluding online play) and all the Zelda (only the original, LttP, OoT, WW and TP really deserve to be there at the most), Metal Gear Solid (Only the Original MGS and MGS4 should be there), Sonic (old school ones, thankfully), Mario (SMB, SMB3, SMW and Sunshine are the only ones that need be there) and even all the PS2 GTA games (all of which are practically the same--I have them all so I can say that) are there.


A few games that should be there are the Original Mortal Kombat (Which led to an explosion of many of the mature-themes games we've come to know and love), Altered Beast (Come on. Who HASN'T heard of this game?!), Street Fighter Alpha (direct sequel to the less-known Street Fighter 1), Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn (Sequel to Path of Radience and considered the best Stateside Fire Emblem since the first GBA Fire Emblem--commonly known as Fire Emblem 7 or Fire Emblem Rekka no ken), Jump! Ultimate Stars (I played this game but for obvious reasons it can't be brought to the states) and NBA Jam (again, who in the blue hell hasn't HEARD of this game?!), among others.

The way I see it, a good chunk of the listed games really shouldn't be there for a number of reasons:


Crystalis-This has gotta be a joke entry. I've never even HEARD of this game.
Gunstar Heroes-This may have been a popular game but it really shouldn't be listed.
Streets of Rage II-Being overplayed is no reason to call it one of the best.
Zelda: Link's Awakening-Seriously: Talk to anyone who actually played through the game and 8 out of 10 times they'll tell you they were done after their first (and most cases only) playthrough. Interestingly, Nintendo decided to reuse the idea in Majora's Mask (Dream-World type mechanics)
Mortal Kombat II-The original MK is much more memorable than II.
Secret of Mana-A mistake game made by Squeenix that should've died after the first. Again, this poor excuse for a game must be a joke entry.
Shining Force II-The sequel was garbage compared to the first.
Donkey Kong Country 2-Same as above.
GoldenEye 007-This game can stay ONLY if Nintendo convices Rare to let them release it on the Virtual Console.
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night-A game many felt was a step back from the other Castlevania games released at the time.
Super Mario 64-I preferred this game over both of its successors (Sunshine and Galaxy) but I believe SMW superseeds this one.
Lufia II-Not ENOUGH people know of this game for it to really deserve to be here. For those who don't know, it's the prequel to the first Lufia. An Awesome game overall though.
SMW2: Yoshi's Island: This game and every Yoshi-centric game that followed are fan-based and therefore shouldn't be here.
Perfect Dark-Not really memorable when you think about it--more so since The Xbox got a better version that blew this one away.
Zelda: Majora's Mask-See my notes for Link's Awakening. To this day it's not really clear at what point during/after the OoT timeline this game takes place.
Deus Ex-Never heard of it. I blame fanboys who want people to know it exists.
Final Fantasy VIII-Nowhere near as memorable as FFVII if you ask me.
Chrono Cross-A flop compared to CT.
Final Fantasy IX-See what I put for FFVIII
Half-Life-Nowhere near as memorable as the sequel.
Metal Gear Solid 2-Now this is coming from the SAME Gamefaqs Community who apparently "Unanimously Agreed" the fact that Raiden is the Main Char for 70% of the game was a mistake on Hideo Kojima's part? Hypocrites one and all. They have themselves to blame as I know they never planned to have this game listed.
The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind-Another game not that many know much about. Prolly a filler for this time period.
Kingdom Hearts-One would hope this game would've shown why a Disney/Squeenix Partnership is bad. Squeenix Tried too hard to make the game like the Final Fantasy games and Disney tried too hard to make their contributions satisfying to Squeenix.
Metroid Prime-Nintendo's "sorry for skipping the N64" present. It got alot of people to buy the Gamecube but that did little to appease alot of ticked-off people who found out the hard way the game was riddled with glitches.
Grand Theft Auto III-No one cared about this game once Vice City was released. I wonder if the mute protagonist had anything to do with that?
Halo: Combat Evolved-The sequel is much more memorable.
Star Wars: KOTOR-Not a memorable as some of the later SW games.
Fire Emblem-More commonly known by fans of the franchise asd Fire Emblem 7 and Fire Emblem Rekka no ken. I think liking it because of an unlockable difficulty alone is no reason to have this game listed.
GTA: San Andreas-Rockstar tried too hard to make this game "ghetto" and it backfired. Someone obviously spent too much time watching Menace II Society when this game was being made. Why is this here?
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion-See what I put for III.
Metal Gear Solid 3-For those who didn't know, you play as Big Boss in this game. No direct relation to MGS1 and MGS2. A few chars are mentioned in MGS4 but that's about it. It failed to meet the popularity standard set by MGS1 so...yeah.
Okami-The original Okami (not this one) was much better.
Kingdom Hearts II-See the notes I put for the first.
Shadow of the Colossus-Yet another Joke Entry. Sad, really--the makers will think people liked this game.
Final Fantasy XII-The chars may have been memorable enough to grant it a sequel on the DS and cameo appearance in FFTA2 but not enough for it to deserve being listed here.
Grand Theft Auto IV-Crap compared to the PS2 games and proof Rockstar's running out of ideas. Hasn't been out long enough to warrant being listed.
Persona 4-Arguably a filler for the time period.
Street Fighter IV-It's only been out a few WEEKS. Not enough time to warrant being listed.
Call of Duty 4-Funny: most folks felt it was crap compared to CoD2 and CoD:WaW. Hypocrisy at its finest.
Team Fortress 2-Obviously a filler for the time period.
BioShock-Filler.
LittleBigPlanet-Filler.
Portal-Filler.
Fallout 3-Filler.
Halo 3-Gears of War 2 is better in my opinion.
Mass Effect-Filler.


Now it's obious a good chunk of the games listed for the 64-bit era and on are fillers. It's about halfway through the last gen that quality games began to become hard to find. Note the absence of PSP games (Crisis Core and God of War: CoO were AWESOME games), for example.
Phoenix Wright! Miles Edgeworth!
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I don't see anything like this on Gamefaqs :sadshoe:
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Brendan, pretty much every single assessment you wrote down is wrong. Don't.
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Yeah, that's a horrible list of reasons, Brendan, no offense.
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Nurio wrote:
I don't see anything like this on Gamefaqs :sadshoe:

So, where can I find this on GameFAQs?
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Nurio wrote:
Nurio wrote:
I don't see anything like this on Gamefaqs :sadshoe:

So, where can I find this on GameFAQs?


It's on the front page, under the "Best Game Ever" banner.
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Just because you've never heard of a game, doesn't make it a bad game or a joke entry. I have to agree with the others here that your reasons seem to be flawed on many of these titles.
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I'ma probably voting for Fallout 3...
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crouton wrote:
Nurio wrote:
Nurio wrote:
I don't see anything like this on Gamefaqs :sadshoe:

So, where can I find this on GameFAQs?


It's on the front page, under the "Best Game Ever" banner.

Thanks. Let me see... :gumshoe:
I did find this: http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/contest/bge09.html
However, I don't see the list of nominees or a place to vote :sadshoe:
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Nurio wrote:
Thanks. Let me see... :gumshoe:
I did find this: http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/contest/bge09.html
However, I don't see the list of nominees or a place to vote :sadshoe:


Scroll down to where it says "Enter today." You can't actually vote until they start up the Daily Polls for it.
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This reminds me of when Nintendo Power held the 2008 NP Awards not too long ago, and Apollo Justice was on the list for "Best New Character." I voted Apollo, bought the results issue as I did all the others, and found that only 7% of readers voted Apollo. The Reader's Pick (staff pick was Travis Touchdown) was Shade from Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood. I was like, lolwut? There's underappreciated, but when a character like that beats Neku or Travis, you kind of have to wonder about the current state of gaming... :yuusaku:

Anyway, I can't attest to a lot of the reasons for or against the games being on the list, since I'm mostly a handheld and old-school gamer who plays the shining examples of games nobody's heard of, ever. (I know Crystalis though, and it deserves being on the list, and I <3 Castlevania and adored SOTN, especially the soundtrack - the aestethic merit made it memorable.) The site says "this is a popularity contest, and nothing more" - which is actually kind of true, considering the magnitude of some of those games. PW has some brutal competitors in its time period, and it probably has a snowball's chance in hell of winning, but that doesn't matter to me. I'm just adopting crouton's strategy and voting Phoenix all the way. :D
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I would vote for PW...but...

MGS3 is better. Sorry, guys.
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The way I see it, most of the Entries are a joke and games that should be there aren't. I mean come on: Squeenix has most of their Final Fantasy Games represented (of which only 1, 4, 6, 7 and 10 really should be there at the most), all three Halo games are up (though most feel Halo 2 was the best of the three excluding online play) and all the Zelda (only the original, LttP, OoT, WW and TP really deserve to be there at the most), Metal Gear Solid (Only the Original MGS and MGS4 should be there), Sonic (old school ones, thankfully), Mario (SMB, SMB3, SMW and Sunshine are the only ones that need be there) and even all the PS2 GTA games (all of which are practically the same--I have them all so I can say that) are there.


A few games that should be there are the Original Mortal Kombat (Which led to an explosion of many of the mature-themes games we've come to know and love), Altered Beast (Come on. Who HASN'T heard of this game?!), Street Fighter Alpha (direct sequel to the less-known Street Fighter 1), Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn (Sequel to Path of Radience and considered the best Stateside Fire Emblem since the first GBA Fire Emblem--commonly known as Fire Emblem 7 or Fire Emblem Rekka no ken), Jump! Ultimate Stars (I played this game but for obvious reasons it can't be brought to the states) and NBA Jam (again, who in the blue hell hasn't HEARD of this game?!), among others.

The way I see it, a good chunk of the listed games really shouldn't be there for a number of reasons:


Crystalis-This has gotta be a joke entry. I've never even HEARD of this game.
Gunstar Heroes-This may have been a popular game but it really shouldn't be listed.
Streets of Rage II-Being overplayed is no reason to call it one of the best.
Zelda: Link's Awakening-Seriously: Talk to anyone who actually played through the game and 8 out of 10 times they'll tell you they were done after their first (and most cases only) playthrough. Interestingly, Nintendo decided to reuse the idea in Majora's Mask (Dream-World type mechanics)
Mortal Kombat II-The original MK is much more memorable than II.
Secret of Mana-A mistake game made by Squeenix that should've died after the first. Again, this poor excuse for a game must be a joke entry.
Shining Force II-The sequel was garbage compared to the first.
Donkey Kong Country 2-Same as above.
GoldenEye 007-This game can stay ONLY if Nintendo convices Rare to let them release it on the Virtual Console.
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night-A game many felt was a step back from the other Castlevania games released at the time.
Super Mario 64-I preferred this game over both of its successors (Sunshine and Galaxy) but I believe SMW superseeds this one.
Lufia II-Not ENOUGH people know of this game for it to really deserve to be here. For those who don't know, it's the prequel to the first Lufia. An Awesome game overall though.
SMW2: Yoshi's Island: This game and every Yoshi-centric game that followed are fan-based and therefore shouldn't be here.
Perfect Dark-Not really memorable when you think about it--more so since The Xbox got a better version that blew this one away.
Zelda: Majora's Mask-See my notes for Link's Awakening. To this day it's not really clear at what point during/after the OoT timeline this game takes place.
Deus Ex-Never heard of it. I blame fanboys who want people to know it exists.
Final Fantasy VIII-Nowhere near as memorable as FFVII if you ask me.
Chrono Cross-A flop compared to CT.
Final Fantasy IX-See what I put for FFVIII
Half-Life-Nowhere near as memorable as the sequel.
Metal Gear Solid 2-Now this is coming from the SAME Gamefaqs Community who apparently "Unanimously Agreed" the fact that Raiden is the Main Char for 70% of the game was a mistake on Hideo Kojima's part? Hypocrites one and all. They have themselves to blame as I know they never planned to have this game listed.
The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind-Another game not that many know much about. Prolly a filler for this time period.
Kingdom Hearts-One would hope this game would've shown why a Disney/Squeenix Partnership is bad. Squeenix Tried too hard to make the game like the Final Fantasy games and Disney tried too hard to make their contributions satisfying to Squeenix.
Metroid Prime-Nintendo's "sorry for skipping the N64" present. It got alot of people to buy the Gamecube but that did little to appease alot of ticked-off people who found out the hard way the game was riddled with glitches.
Grand Theft Auto III-No one cared about this game once Vice City was released. I wonder if the mute protagonist had anything to do with that?
Halo: Combat Evolved-The sequel is much more memorable.
Star Wars: KOTOR-Not a memorable as some of the later SW games.
Fire Emblem-More commonly known by fans of the franchise asd Fire Emblem 7 and Fire Emblem Rekka no ken. I think liking it because of an unlockable difficulty alone is no reason to have this game listed.
GTA: San Andreas-Rockstar tried too hard to make this game "ghetto" and it backfired. Someone obviously spent too much time watching Menace II Society when this game was being made. Why is this here?
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion-See what I put for III.
Metal Gear Solid 3-For those who didn't know, you play as Big Boss in this game. No direct relation to MGS1 and MGS2. A few chars are mentioned in MGS4 but that's about it. It failed to meet the popularity standard set by MGS1 so...yeah.
Okami-The original Okami (not this one) was much better.
Kingdom Hearts II-See the notes I put for the first.
Shadow of the Colossus-Yet another Joke Entry. Sad, really--the makers will think people liked this game.
Final Fantasy XII-The chars may have been memorable enough to grant it a sequel on the DS and cameo appearance in FFTA2 but not enough for it to deserve being listed here.
Grand Theft Auto IV-Crap compared to the PS2 games and proof Rockstar's running out of ideas. Hasn't been out long enough to warrant being listed.
Persona 4-Arguably a filler for the time period.
Street Fighter IV-It's only been out a few WEEKS. Not enough time to warrant being listed.
Call of Duty 4-Funny: most folks felt it was crap compared to CoD2 and CoD:WaW. Hypocrisy at its finest.
Team Fortress 2-Obviously a filler for the time period.
BioShock-Filler.
LittleBigPlanet-Filler.
Portal-Filler.
Fallout 3-Filler.
Halo 3-Gears of War 2 is better in my opinion.
Mass Effect-Filler.


Now it's obious a good chunk of the games listed for the 64-bit era and on are fillers. It's about halfway through the last gen that quality games began to become hard to find. Note the absence of PSP games (Crisis Core and God of War: CoO were AWESOME games), for example.


You do realise that all the games are voted by PUBLIC, not GameFAQs?
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crouton wrote:
Nurio wrote:
Thanks. Let me see... :gumshoe:
I did find this: http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/contest/bge09.html
However, I don't see the list of nominees or a place to vote :sadshoe:


Scroll down to where it says "Enter today." You can't actually vote until they start up the Daily Polls for it.

Okay, just to make sure, entering this contest means predicting the outcome of every "battle", right? Sadly, I can't do that since I live in Europe :sadshoe:
I will, however, vote like crazy for PW! When are the Daily Polls gonna start?
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I'm glad I contributed to PW's nomination. ^_^
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Nurio wrote:
Okay, just to make sure, entering this contest means predicting the outcome of every "battle", right? Sadly, I can't do that since I live in Europe :sadshoe:
I will, however, vote like crazy for PW! When are the Daily Polls gonna start?


Yes, exactly. ^_^ You can't do an entry for fun?

I'm not sure when the polls will start. I can't remember when they actually announce the voting to start. Looking at the rules, it might be soon, I think.
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Well, I can do that... And...
I forgot the reason why I decided not to do it. Oh well, I guess I might enter soon anyway! :godot:
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DramaticaXIV2 wrote:
Brendan2k5 wrote:
The way I see it, most of the Entries are a joke and games that should be there aren't. I mean come on: Squeenix has most of their Final Fantasy Games represented (of which only 1, 4, 6, 7 and 10 really should be there at the most), all three Halo games are up (though most feel Halo 2 was the best of the three excluding online play) and all the Zelda (only the original, LttP, OoT, WW and TP really deserve to be there at the most), Metal Gear Solid (Only the Original MGS and MGS4 should be there), Sonic (old school ones, thankfully), Mario (SMB, SMB3, SMW and Sunshine are the only ones that need be there) and even all the PS2 GTA games (all of which are practically the same--I have them all so I can say that) are there.


A few games that should be there are the Original Mortal Kombat (Which led to an explosion of many of the mature-themes games we've come to know and love), Altered Beast (Come on. Who HASN'T heard of this game?!), Street Fighter Alpha (direct sequel to the less-known Street Fighter 1), Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn (Sequel to Path of Radience and considered the best Stateside Fire Emblem since the first GBA Fire Emblem--commonly known as Fire Emblem 7 or Fire Emblem Rekka no ken), Jump! Ultimate Stars (I played this game but for obvious reasons it can't be brought to the states) and NBA Jam (again, who in the blue hell hasn't HEARD of this game?!), among others.

The way I see it, a good chunk of the listed games really shouldn't be there for a number of reasons:


Crystalis-This has gotta be a joke entry. I've never even HEARD of this game.
Gunstar Heroes-This may have been a popular game but it really shouldn't be listed.
Streets of Rage II-Being overplayed is no reason to call it one of the best.
Zelda: Link's Awakening-Seriously: Talk to anyone who actually played through the game and 8 out of 10 times they'll tell you they were done after their first (and most cases only) playthrough. Interestingly, Nintendo decided to reuse the idea in Majora's Mask (Dream-World type mechanics)
Mortal Kombat II-The original MK is much more memorable than II.
Secret of Mana-A mistake game made by Squeenix that should've died after the first. Again, this poor excuse for a game must be a joke entry.
Shining Force II-The sequel was garbage compared to the first.
Donkey Kong Country 2-Same as above.
GoldenEye 007-This game can stay ONLY if Nintendo convices Rare to let them release it on the Virtual Console.
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night-A game many felt was a step back from the other Castlevania games released at the time.
Super Mario 64-I preferred this game over both of its successors (Sunshine and Galaxy) but I believe SMW superseeds this one.
Lufia II-Not ENOUGH people know of this game for it to really deserve to be here. For those who don't know, it's the prequel to the first Lufia. An Awesome game overall though.
SMW2: Yoshi's Island: This game and every Yoshi-centric game that followed are fan-based and therefore shouldn't be here.
Perfect Dark-Not really memorable when you think about it--more so since The Xbox got a better version that blew this one away.
Zelda: Majora's Mask-See my notes for Link's Awakening. To this day it's not really clear at what point during/after the OoT timeline this game takes place.
Deus Ex-Never heard of it. I blame fanboys who want people to know it exists.
Final Fantasy VIII-Nowhere near as memorable as FFVII if you ask me.
Chrono Cross-A flop compared to CT.
Final Fantasy IX-See what I put for FFVIII
Half-Life-Nowhere near as memorable as the sequel.
Metal Gear Solid 2-Now this is coming from the SAME Gamefaqs Community who apparently "Unanimously Agreed" the fact that Raiden is the Main Char for 70% of the game was a mistake on Hideo Kojima's part? Hypocrites one and all. They have themselves to blame as I know they never planned to have this game listed.
The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind-Another game not that many know much about. Prolly a filler for this time period.
Kingdom Hearts-One would hope this game would've shown why a Disney/Squeenix Partnership is bad. Squeenix Tried too hard to make the game like the Final Fantasy games and Disney tried too hard to make their contributions satisfying to Squeenix.
Metroid Prime-Nintendo's "sorry for skipping the N64" present. It got alot of people to buy the Gamecube but that did little to appease alot of ticked-off people who found out the hard way the game was riddled with glitches.
Grand Theft Auto III-No one cared about this game once Vice City was released. I wonder if the mute protagonist had anything to do with that?
Halo: Combat Evolved-The sequel is much more memorable.
Star Wars: KOTOR-Not a memorable as some of the later SW games.
Fire Emblem-More commonly known by fans of the franchise asd Fire Emblem 7 and Fire Emblem Rekka no ken. I think liking it because of an unlockable difficulty alone is no reason to have this game listed.
GTA: San Andreas-Rockstar tried too hard to make this game "ghetto" and it backfired. Someone obviously spent too much time watching Menace II Society when this game was being made. Why is this here?
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion-See what I put for III.
Metal Gear Solid 3-For those who didn't know, you play as Big Boss in this game. No direct relation to MGS1 and MGS2. A few chars are mentioned in MGS4 but that's about it. It failed to meet the popularity standard set by MGS1 so...yeah.
Okami-The original Okami (not this one) was much better.
Kingdom Hearts II-See the notes I put for the first.
Shadow of the Colossus-Yet another Joke Entry. Sad, really--the makers will think people liked this game.
Final Fantasy XII-The chars may have been memorable enough to grant it a sequel on the DS and cameo appearance in FFTA2 but not enough for it to deserve being listed here.
Grand Theft Auto IV-Crap compared to the PS2 games and proof Rockstar's running out of ideas. Hasn't been out long enough to warrant being listed.
Persona 4-Arguably a filler for the time period.
Street Fighter IV-It's only been out a few WEEKS. Not enough time to warrant being listed.
Call of Duty 4-Funny: most folks felt it was crap compared to CoD2 and CoD:WaW. Hypocrisy at its finest.
Team Fortress 2-Obviously a filler for the time period.
BioShock-Filler.
LittleBigPlanet-Filler.
Portal-Filler.
Fallout 3-Filler.
Halo 3-Gears of War 2 is better in my opinion.
Mass Effect-Filler.


Now it's obious a good chunk of the games listed for the 64-bit era and on are fillers. It's about halfway through the last gen that quality games began to become hard to find. Note the absence of PSP games (Crisis Core and God of War: CoO were AWESOME games), for example.


You do realise that all the games are voted by PUBLIC, not GameFAQs?



Yes and that's exactly why I phrased my last post the way I did. I've been with Gamefaqs for 10 years (the site launched in 1997-98 I think) and if they put the list together with the GFaqs community like it was when I first joined, I guarantee you the list would be very different.

I believe I also said several times my opinion of this contest is not to be taken seriously as it's just my opnion. What's done is done and there's nothing I could do to change what's already been done. For those who feel differently about the games I listed, let me say this: You call have games you wish were listed. I simply named the games I felt don't deserve to be listed.

Oh, and believe it or not I've no doubt there's folks who feel the games I like shouldn't be there so...yeah. Before I go further, let me remind everyone this contest will pan out over the course of a few weeks. There is no guarantee anyone's picks will make it to the finals, let alone the opening round and early upsets are guaranteed >.>;

-Squeenix claims the FF-spinoffs they've made over the last 3 and a half years aren't "fan-inspired" but I think we know Squeenix will enough to be able to say they'll do anything for a quick buck now adays.

-My apologies to the Street Fighter fans but I still stand by my comments regarding SFIV. It only just came out a few weeks ago. Can you imagine what would happen if it made it to THE final round or even won? Capcom will "think" SF fans have forgiven them for waiting so long to release the game and get lazy, etc.

-I honestly don't think Fire Emblem should be listed because while it's still considered a new franchise in the US, it's well known in Japan. My reasons listed are actually fact and 8 out of 10 people who played every Fire Emblem released after the first US GBA Fire Emblem compare it to that one and that's pretty biased.

-My comments regarding MGS2 and MGS3 are actually fact and were reaffairmed on an early morning patrol I did of each game's GFaqs boards. Overall most people feel MGS1 is the best of the four with MGS4 coming in 2nd, followed by MGS3 and then MGS2. All four games are revered for their epic storylines =D
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Not liking or knowing certain games is one thing, but saying they shouldn't be in the contest because of that is idiotic.
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Wow, you're really out of touch; you have no sense of video game history. Sure, you might not have liked a lot of those games (I don't like some of them either), but... what? No one liked Shadow of the Colossus? Yoshi's Island is fan-based? Portal is filler? Super Mario 64, the game that originated the 3D platformer, doesn't deserve to be on the list? The only reason people like Fire Emblem (7), the first Fire Emblem released outside of Japan, is an unlockable difficulty? I can see the reasons for everything you've listed that I've heard of, which is most of the list.
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Filled out my entry. I will be voting mostly for games I know and love, IE mostly Nintendo games. I'm gunning for Galaxy to win the whole thing.

Brendan I sincerely hope you are trolling.
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I just pray that PW, DKC2 and SM64 never come up in the same poll...'cause if that happens I'm gonna have a hard decision to make. :larry:
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Brendan2k5 wrote:
The way I see it, most of the Entries are a murder charge and games that should be there aren't. I mean come on: Squeenix has most of their Final Fantasy Games represented (of which only 1, 4, 6, 7 and 10 really should be there at the most), all three Halo games are up (though most feel Halo 2 was the best of the three excluding online play) and all the Zelda (only the original, LttP, OoT, WW and TP really deserve to be there at the most), Metal Gear Solid (Only the Original MGS and MGS4 should be there), Sonic (old school ones, thankfully), Mario (SMB, SMB3, SMW and Sunshine are the only ones that need be there) and even all the PS2 GTA games (all of which are practically the same--I have them all so I can say that) are there.


A few games that should be there are the Original Mortal Kombat (Which led to an explosion of many of the mature-themes games we've come to know and love), Altered Beast (Come on. Who HASN'T heard of this game?!), Street Fighter Alpha (direct sequel to the less-known Street Fighter 1), Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn (Sequel to Path of Radience and considered the best Stateside Fire Emblem since the first GBA Fire Emblem--commonly known as Fire Emblem 7 or Fire Emblem Rekka no ken), Jump! Ultimate Stars (I played this game but for obvious reasons it can't be brought to the states) and NBA Jam (again, who in the blue hell hasn't HEARD of this game?!), among others.

The way I see it, a good chunk of the listed games really shouldn't be there for a number of reasons:


Crystalis-This has gotta be a murder charge entry. I've never even HEARD of this game.
Gunstar Heroes-This may have been a popular game but it really shouldn't be listed.
Streets of Rage II-Being overplayed desu no reason to call it one of the best.
Zelda: Link's Awakening-Seriously: Talk to anyone who actually played through the game and 8 out of 10 times they'll tell you they were done after their first (and most cases only) playthrough. Interestingly, Nintendo decided to reuse the idea in Majora's Mask (Dream-World type mechanics)
Mortal Kombat II-The original MK desu much more memorable than II.
Secret of Mana-A mistake game made by Squeenix that should've died after the first. Again, this poor excuse for a game must be a murder charge entry.
Shining Force II-The sequel was garbage compared to the first.
Donkey Kong Country 2-Same as above.
GoldenEye 007-This game can stay ONLY if Nintendo convices Rare to let them release it on the Virtual Console.
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night-A game many felt was a step back from the other Castlevania games released at the time.
Super Mario 64-I preferred this game over both of its successors (Sunshine and Galaxy) but I believe SMW superseeds this one.
Lufia II-Not ENOUGH people know of this game for it to really deserve to be here. For those who don't know, it's the prequel to the first Lufia. An Awesome game overall though.
SMW2: Yoshi's Island: This game and every Yoshi-centric game that followed are fan-based and therefore shouldn't be here.
Perfect Dark-Not really memorable when you think about it--more so since The Xbox got a better version that blew this one away.
Zelda: Majora's Mask-See my notes for Link's Awakening. To this for sale!!!! it's not really clear at what point during/after the OoT timeline this game takes place.
Deus Ex-Never heard of it. I blame fanboys who want people to know it exists.
Final Fantasy VIII-Nowhere near as memorable as FFVII if you ask me.
Chrono Cross-A flop compared to CT.
Final Fantasy IX-See what I put for FFVIII
Half-Life-Nowhere near as memorable as the sequel.
Metal Gear Solid 2-Now this desu coming from the SAME Gamefaqs Community who apparently "Unanimously Agreed" the fact that Raiden desu the Main Char for 70% of the game was a mistake on Hideo Kojima's part? Hypocrites one and all. They have themselves to blame as I know they never planned to have this game listed.
The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind-Another game not that many know much about. Prolly a filler for this time period.
Kingdom Hearts-One would hope this game would've shown why a Disney/Squeenix Partnership desu bad. Squeenix Tried too hard to make the game like the Final Fantasy games and Disney tried too hard to make their contributions satisfying to Squeenix.
Metroid Prime-Nintendo's "sorry for skipping the N64" present. It got alot of people to buy the Gamecube but that did little to appease alot of ticked-off people who found out the hard way the game was riddled with glitches.
Grand Theft Auto III-No one cared about this game once Vice City was released. I wonder if the mute protagonist had anything to do with that?
Halo: Combat Evolved-The sequel desu much more memorable.
Star Wars: KOTOR-Not a memorable as some of the later SW games.
Fire Emblem-More commonly known by fans of the franchise asd Fire Emblem 7 and Fire Emblem Rekka no ken. I think liking it because of an unlockable difficulty alone desu no reason to have this game listed.
GTA: San Andreas-Rockstar tried too hard to make this game "ghetto" and it backfired. Someone obviously spent too much time watching Menace II Society when this game was being made. Why desu this here?
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion-See what I put for III.
Metal Gear Solid 3-For those who didn't know, you play as Big Boss in this game. No direct relation to MGS1 and MGS2. A few chars are mentioned in MGS4 but that's about it. It failed to meet the popularity standard set by MGS1 so...yeah.
Okami-The original Okami (not this one) was much better.
Kingdom Hearts II-See the notes I put for the first.
Shadow of the Colossus-Yet another murder charge Entry. Sad, really--the makers will think people liked this game.
Final Fantasy XII-The chars may have been memorable enough to grant it a sequel on the DS and cameo appearance in FFTA2 but not enough for it to deserve being listed here.
Grand Theft Auto IV-Crap compared to the PS2 games and proof Rockstar's running out of ideas. Hasn't been out long enough to warrant being listed.
Persona 4-Arguably a filler for the time period.
Street Fighter IV-It's only been out a few WEEKS. Not enough time to warrant being listed.
Call of Duty 4-Funny: most folks felt it was crap compared to CoD2 and CoD:WaW. Hypocrisy at its finest.
Team Fortress 2-Obviously a filler for the time period.
BioShock-Filler.
LittleBigPlanet-Filler.
Portal-Filler.
Fallout 3-Filler.
Halo 3-Gears of War 2 desu better in my opinion.
Mass Effect-Filler.


Now it's obious a good chunk of the games listed for the 64-bit era and on are fillers. It's about halfway through the last gen that quality games began to become hard to find. Note the absence of PSP games (Crisis Core and God of War: CoO were AWESOME games), for example.


I know people have already said this, but this is just

wrong

This isn't even about OPINIONS, you're actually lying about a lot of stuff or just outright being stupid

Who the hell thought Symphony of the Night was a step down

How could you even justify it as a step down

The Shadow of the Colossus comment was twice as rage worthy though.

Really goddamn, this is more or less Dumbest Post of 2009. No way can anyone beat it.
If you come across an older post of mine, sowwy
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Let me deal with this...

Crystalis-This has gotta be a murder charge entry. I've never even HEARD of this game.
So? So what if you haven't heard of it? It's still a great NES game. Does everything you hear of only count?

Gunstar Heroes-This may have been a popular game but it really shouldn't be listed.
But, it's a classic. A shining classic of the SNES anad Genesis era, and made by one of the best development teams out there.

Streets of Rage II-Being overplayed desu no reason to call it one of the best.
Again, this is a classic. When I hear of Streets of Rage, I only hear of II. Just beause it's overplayed, doesn't mean it's overrated.

Zelda: Link's Awakening-Seriously: Talk to anyone who actually played through the game and 8 out of 10 times they'll tell you they were done after their first (and most cases only) playthrough. Interestingly, Nintendo decided to reuse the idea in Majora's Mask (Dream-World type mechanics)
Link's Awakening is a great game, and proved that Zelda on a portable was indeed possible. Another classic.

Mortal Kombat II-The original MK desu much more memorable than II.
But, the SNES version finally had the blood put in II, which automatically makes it better than the original.

Secret of Mana-A mistake game made by Squeenix that should've died after the first. Again, this poor excuse for a game must be a murder charge entry.
Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it shouldn't be on there. For example, I don't like Castlevania that much, but I still see that SoTN is still a classic.

Shining Force II-The sequel was garbage compared to the first.
Dude, it's their opinion.

Donkey Kong Country 2-Same as above.
Regardless, DKC2 was still a great game, and indeed a game worthy.

GoldenEye 007-This game can stay ONLY if Nintendo convices Rare to let them release it on the Virtual Console.
EXCUSE ME? WHAT? Since when does being released on the VC or XBLA have to do with ANYTHING? It's still an awesome game, and the best Bond game there will ever be.

Castlevania: Symphony of the Night-A game many felt was a step back from the other Castlevania games released at the time.
Proof, please. SoTN is pretty open world if you ask me; an idea that wasn't popularized until the PS2 GTA games.

Super Mario 64-I preferred this game over both of its successors (Sunshine and Galaxy) but I believe SMW superseeds this one.
This is a definite classic. There's no question. It's a classic thats on pretty much every list in existence.

Lufia II-Not ENOUGH people know of this game for it to really deserve to be here. For those who don't know, it's the prequel to the first Lufia. An Awesome game overall though.
So what if people don't know about it? That doesn't make it a bad game. It's still pretty cool.

SMW2: Yoshi's Island: This game and every Yoshi-centric game that followed are fan-based and therefore shouldn't be here.
Again, EXCUSE ME? SMW2 is a GREAT game, and just because it has something to do with Yoshi, doesn't mean it shouldn't be up there. People like Yoshi, why shouldn't he get his own game? It's the same idea when they gave Mario his own series.

Perfect Dark-Not really memorable when you think about it--more so since The Xbox got a better version that blew this one away.
How is it not memorable? It's the spiritual sequel to Goldeneye. It's a great game, that just has a framerate problem. Plus, the original has always been better.

Zelda: Majora's Mask-See my notes for Link's Awakening. To this for sale!!!! it's not really clear at what point during/after the OoT timeline this game takes place.
How can you dispute this game? It's a storytelling classic, and is one of Nintendo's riskiest games yet. It put a whole new spin on Zelda, and was a GREAT sequel.

Deus Ex-Never heard of it. I blame fanboys who want people to know it exists.
And how are we any different? Not that many people know about Ace Attorney, when you think about it. Last year, it was revealed that only close to 3 million copies of games in the AA series was sold. Ever. And, agian, just because you never heard of it, does not mean it's bad.

Final Fantasy VIII-Nowhere near as memorable as FFVII if you ask me.
It was an improvement over VII, if you ask me. The graphics, the music, everything.

Chrono Cross-A flop compared to CT.
Chrono Cross is still a GREAT EPICLY AWESOME game though. A classic. A CLASSIC. I mean, my god! The people who made this game made Chrono Trigger and Xenogears first, then after this game, they formed their own studio called Monolith Soft, and made a little series I'd like to call Xenosaga! They also made Baten Kaitos as well, if you're into that. And Disaster: Day of Crisis if you live in Europe.

Final Fantasy IX-See what I put for FFVIII
It's the most underrated game in the series, I feel. It's still a great game.

Half-Life-Nowhere near as memorable as the sequel.
Still a great game, though. You cannot deny this.

Metal Gear Solid 2-Now this desu coming from the SAME Gamefaqs Community who apparently "Unanimously Agreed" the fact that Raiden desu the Main Char for 70% of the game was a mistake on Hideo Kojima's part? Hypocrites one and all. They have themselves to blame as I know they never planned to have this game listed.
Just because they didn't like Raiden, doesn't mean the storytelling was any less epic.

The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind-Another game not that many know much about. Prolly a filler for this time period.
Morrowind is a great game. One of the best Xbox RPGs out there.

Kingdom Hearts-One would hope this game would've shown why a Disney/Squeenix Partnership desu bad. Squeenix Tried too hard to make the game like the Final Fantasy games and Disney tried too hard to make their contributions satisfying to Squeenix.
Kingdom Hearts is a GREAT game. Another classic. It has a great series and a good storyline, and the Disney part makes it better.

Metroid Prime-Nintendo's "sorry for skipping the N64" present. It got alot of people to buy the Gamecube but that did little to appease alot of ticked-off people who found out the hard way the game was riddled with glitches.
What glitches? Metroid Prime is one of the best FPS games ever made, and has a lot more to it than Halo or Gears of War. Plus, I like the controls more.

Grand Theft Auto III-No one cared about this game once Vice City was released. I wonder if the mute protagonist had anything to do with that?
Mute protagonists are the key to immersion in games. Plus, this pioneered Vice City and SA anyway, so it's still great.

Halo: Combat Evolved-The sequel desu much more memorable.
Despite what I said about it in the comment about Metroid Prime, it's still a great game and a launch classic. It's a household name, and for a good reason.

Star Wars: KOTOR-Not a memorable as some of the later SW games.
What other Star Wars games? This game was only made six years ago. KOTOR2 wasn't as good, Revenge of the Sith sucked, and The Force Unleashed is still sort of mediocre compared to other Star Wars games.

Fire Emblem-More commonly known by fans of the franchise asd Fire Emblem 7 and Fire Emblem Rekka no ken. I think liking it because of an unlockable difficulty alone desu no reason to have this game listed.
Ok, now you've done it. Fire Emblem has an awesome story and equally awesome characters. It's pretty much my favorite game. Ever. So what if it's still "new?" I fucking love it. As do a lot of people.

GTA: San Andreas-Rockstar tried too hard to make this game "ghetto" and it backfired. Someone obviously spent too much time watching Menace II Society when this game was being made. Why desu this here?
Because it's still great, and an improvement to the already great Vice City and III?

The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion-See what I put for III.
I love Morrowind, but this game is better, so you, sir, are wrong.


Metal Gear Solid 3-For those who didn't know, you play as Big Boss in this game. No direct relation to MGS1 and MGS2. A few chars are mentioned in MGS4 but that's about it. It failed to meet the popularity standard set by MGS1 so...yeah.
But it's still an epic game. I love prequels, and this is one of my favorites.

Okami-The original Okami (not this one) was much better.
Both Okamis were good. The Wii just had some control issues. They're equal in every way otherwise.

Kingdom Hearts II-See the notes I put for the first.
See the notes I put for the first. This is only an improvement to a classic.

Shadow of the Colossus-Yet another murder charge Entry. Sad, really--the makers will think people liked this game.
I love this game, actually. What, you don't thinking trying to kill 16 colossi is epic? Even though they're skyscraper tall, some of them? Riiiight.

Final Fantasy XII-The chars may have been memorable enough to grant it a sequel on the DS and cameo appearance in FFTA2 but not enough for it to deserve being listed here.
Square Enix has never made a bad Final Fantasy.

Grand Theft Auto IV-Crap compared to the PS2 games and proof Rockstar's running out of ideas. Hasn't been out long enough to warrant being listed.
GTAIV is still a great game, and, in my opinion, equal to the PS2 games.

Persona 4-Arguably a filler for the time period.
Persona 4 is one of the last great PS2 RPGS you're gonna get...

Street Fighter IV-It's only been out a few WEEKS. Not enough time to warrant being listed.
Street Fighter IV is better than II. The End.

Call of Duty 4-Funny: most folks felt it was crap compared to CoD2 and CoD:WaW. Hypocrisy at its finest.
WaW sucks compared to 4. 4 was made by the real CoD team anyway, and is already a classic of this generation.

Team Fortress 2-Obviously a filler for the time period.
The entire Orange Box was awesome. You cannot deny this.

BioShock-Filler.
Another classic. This is an incredibly deep game, that rivals Xenosaga.

LittleBigPlanet-Filler.
No, not really. LBP is great.

Portal-Filler.
The Companion Cube should be landing on your head about now. One of the best puzzle games ever made.

Fallout 3-Filler.
It made the once great Fallout series famous again...

Halo 3-Gears of War 2 desu better in my opinion.
3 > 1 > 2

Mass Effect-Filler.
You must have something against Bioware then..



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Portal = Filler.......

Portal = Filler

PORTAL = FILLER

*has an brain hemorrhage*

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On other terms, Colossus was a fantastic game.

I can't choose between Portal or PW :/
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PORTAL.

Companion Cube wins all.

I didn't realize a big game like that was filler.

Biased list much?

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Brendan2k5 wrote:
Gunstar Heroes-This may have been a popular game but it really shouldn't be listed.
Streets of Rage II-Being overplayed is no reason to call it one of the best.
Secret of Mana-A mistake game made by Squeenix that should've died after the first. Again, this poor excuse for a game must be a joke entry.
GoldenEye 007-This game can stay ONLY if Nintendo convices Rare to let them release it on the Virtual Console.
SMW2: Yoshi's Island: This game and every Yoshi-centric game that followed are fan-based and therefore shouldn't be here.
Perfect Dark-Not really memorable when you think about it--more so since The Xbox got a better version that blew this one away.
Deus Ex-Never heard of it. I blame fanboys who want people to know it exists.
Final Fantasy VIII-Nowhere near as memorable as FFVII if you ask me.
Final Fantasy IX-See what I put for FFVIII
Half-Life-Nowhere near as memorable as the sequel.
The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind-Another game not that many know much about. Prolly a filler for this time period.
Kingdom Hearts-One would hope this game would've shown why a Disney/Squeenix Partnership is bad. Squeenix Tried too hard to make the game like the Final Fantasy games and Disney tried too hard to make their contributions satisfying to Squeenix.
Metroid Prime-Nintendo's "sorry for skipping the N64" present. It got alot of people to buy the Gamecube but that did little to appease alot of ticked-off people who found out the hard way the game was riddled with glitches.
Grand Theft Auto III-No one cared about this game once Vice City was released. I wonder if the mute protagonist had anything to do with that?
Star Wars: KOTOR-Not a memorable as some of the later SW games.
Fire Emblem-More commonly known by fans of the franchise asd Fire Emblem 7 and Fire Emblem Rekka no ken. I think liking it because of an unlockable difficulty alone is no reason to have this game listed.
GTA: San Andreas-Rockstar tried too hard to make this game "ghetto" and it backfired. Someone obviously spent too much time watching Menace II Society when this game was being made. Why is this here?
Shadow of the Colossus-Yet another Joke Entry. Sad, really--the makers will think people liked this game.
Grand Theft Auto IV-Crap compared to the PS2 games and proof Rockstar's running out of ideas. Hasn't been out long enough to warrant being listed.
Call of Duty 4-Funny: most folks felt it was crap compared to CoD2 and CoD:WaW. Hypocrisy at its finest.
Team Fortress 2-Obviously a filler for the time period.
BioShock-Filler.
LittleBigPlanet-Filler.
Portal-Filler.
Fallout 3-Filler.
Mass Effect-Filler.


You need to fucking kill yourself, and you need to do it as soon as humanly possible.

Yes, I did join just to say this, and no, I don't care that I just bumped a several month-old thread.
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My name is Judge.

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Contest Over, '05s Winner and Runner-Up traded places, LOZ:OOT won. Shocker. Better games? Probably , is it still one of the best? Yes. Thread has no purpose anymore, he's ignorant and kind of stupid and your first post is potentially one to get you a warning or week ban.

Congratulations :)
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nuuuuu, stoooooop

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Shralla wrote:
Yes, I did join just to say this, and no, I don't care that I just bumped a several month-old thread.


If that's the kind of meaningful contribution you have to make to this forum, we don't care to have you here. Bye~
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