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But anyway, for some reason I just assumed it was after T&T.
But I don't know why..... maybe I read someone saying it and it stuck. Or something.
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Q. When does the game take place?
A. The dev team has said "around T&T." Gumshoe's age as listed in the demo is the same as his age in T&T, but they haven't come out and said if it was before or after 3-5.
The first case takes place in March, after Edgeworth has been overseas for "about a month." This makes it pretty likely that it is a month after 3-5, which took place in February.
A. The dev team has said "around T&T." Gumshoe's age as listed in the demo is the same as his age in T&T, but they haven't come out and said if it was before or after 3-5.
The first case takes place in March, after Edgeworth has been overseas for "about a month." This makes it pretty likely that it is a month after 3-5, which took place in February.
I have to agree that the ages put it after 3-5 as well. It would be hard to fit into before 2-4 territory with what we have confirmed so far.
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All the information we have right now points to at least case 1 taking place in March 2019, one month after 3-5. Until we get new information, there's not much left to discuss in that arena.
Buuuuuuut now that we know the game will at least start before the time of Phoenix's disbarment, it does raise the question of whether or not it'll deal with that issue, which is certainly open to discussion.
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They could just put in a very minor explanation of Edgeworth's actions toward that event, without directly referencing the event itself. (e.g. Edgeworth gets into some situation and loses most of his influence. That has nothing to do with Phoenix, but it would explain a lot.) That seems like the most plausible way to go about this.
So yeah. Anyone up for a long and probably pointless discussion?[/spoiler]
So yeah. Anyone up for a long and probably pointless discussion?[/spoiler]
It would, but they are not going to end the game by him losing his influence for 7 years. This is a problem.
Edgeworth appears to be High Prosecutor in the demo [we assume that the demo is case 1, but it might not be, I guess], somebody refers to his office as the 'High Prosecutor's office in that translation.
Phoenix appeared in the TGS 2008 thing in a Blue Badger costume. Maybe he'll hide in that again for his big appearance if he has one? It's a crack idea, but there are several screenshots with Blue Badger. It evades the hobo/lawyer problem.
But if it's March, maybe something bad will happen to Edgeworth [booted out simultaneously in a larger miscarriage of justice] and he has to go overseas [?] and restore his own reputation, this being a major aim in the game. Of course in GS4 Phoenix's disbarring is related only to a simple act of jealously by Kristoph, but that could be ret-coned into some larger plot. Are the Garyuus German in the JPN version? Or it could simply be bad timing, which seems more likely than stepping on the GS5 writers' toes.
Is it even confirmed one of the cases takes place overseas [I guess with that fat, rich guy, Zinc White or whatever it was] or only the one on the plane going to/from?
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Is it even confirmed one of the cases takes place overseas [I guess with that fat, rich guy, Zinc White or whatever it was] or only the one on the plane going to/from?
We don't know where the plane started or ends up, only that when they land Franziska is there and Edgeworth is suprised to see her (he says, "Weren't you in America?" so I guess we can rule that out as the destination - JPN version). Also they refer to Rou and Shiina as "international investigators" so either they fly in for a visit or Edgworth runs into them in some other country.
So it's very possible that Edgeworth goes overseas for one or more of his cases. If he's off in the middle of a murder mystery in a foreign country during April that would give him a plausible excuse for missing Phoenix's hearing.
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icer wrote:
Edgeworth appears to be High Prosecutor in the demo [we assume that the demo is case 1, but it might not be, I guess], somebody refers to his office as the 'High Prosecutor's office in that translation.
In the earlier translations of the scans we also learned that Makoto was a High Prosecutor. I think this might mean that everyone at the office is one too. It is probably a general term in their world. Or it could mean there are two classes of prosecutor, but they've never told of that distinciton (in my knowledge anyway)
icer wrote:
Are the Garyuus German in the JPN version?
No, they are American just like Mei Karuma (Fransziska von Karma).
It will be interesting to see how the game deals with the rest of the GS4 "Black April" event.
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I was wondering if the first case could work like JFA, where it actually takes place after the second case. However, I think that would contradict both what Gumshoe says in the Demo and 3-5 even if it were overseas.
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It's in one of the the newer scans with more info on Mikumo.
Possible implication of being overseas.
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Have we had any indication that Edgeworth actually goes overseas in the cases? Why not another district of Japan/America?
That is an interesting idea, and it could be plausable. I think crouton mentioned that in Japan most people fly to the other islands, and in the US people could fly to another disctrict (even in California), or another State.
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In one of the scans Edgeworth is walking dragging a long (a very silly looking/not even sure if it's his) piece of luggage to somewhere. On a bridge or something.
It's in one of the the newer scans with more info on Mikumo.
Possible implication of being overseas.
It's in one of the the newer scans with more info on Mikumo.
Possible implication of being overseas.
He would either be carrying luggage to his new living space overseas, or carrying it to new living quarters in America. If it was right before 2-4, he would be carrying luggage to America. If it was after 3-5 it would be to overseas. That bridge looks very European, so the logical conclusion is he is carrying luggage to a new living space overseas...so it would have to be AFTER 3-5.
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In one of the scans Edgeworth is walking dragging a long (a very silly looking/not even sure if it's his) piece of luggage to somewhere. On a bridge or something.
It's in one of the the newer scans with more info on Mikumo.
Possible implication of being overseas.
It's in one of the the newer scans with more info on Mikumo.
Possible implication of being overseas.
Except that the bridge is studded with Blue Badger type motifs, but maybe he's departing [or the Blue Badger has infiltrated the world.]
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In the earlier translations of the scans we also learned that Makoto was a High Prosecutor. I think this might mean that everyone at the office is one too. It is probably a general term in their world. Or it could mean there are two classes of prosecutor, but they've never told of that distinciton (in my knowledge anyway)
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Damn, here I was thinking he got a promotion. But it does suggest there are classes of prosecutor... [so maybe he has been promoted since GS1]
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icer wrote:
Damn, here I was thinking he got a promotion. But it does suggest there are classes of prosecutor... [so maybe he has been promoted since GS1]
In Rise from the Ashes, he was also called a High Prosecutor, but since that is an add on case, I'm not sure what that means for him. I would say that he's always been a High Prosecutor (or least one for a long time).
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Protesto wrote:
He would either be carrying luggage to his new living space overseas, or carrying it to new living quarters in America. If it was right before 2-4, he would be carrying luggage to America. If it was after 3-5 it would be to overseas. That bridge looks very European, so the logical conclusion is he is carrying luggage to a new living space overseas...so it would have to be AFTER 3-5.
icer wrote:
Except that the bridge is studded with Blue Badger type motifs, but maybe he's departing [or the Blue Badger has infiltrated the world.]
Here's another thought... what if it's not his suitcase. It could very well be evidence for a case, that he needs to transport around. Or the suitcase is evidence itself. Or Mikumo is making him drag it around. XD (He is a gentleman after all.) And yeah, with the Blue Badger motif on the bridge it makes me think that he's at
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Someone said it was impossible, but has Gumshoe been seen on the plane in one of the scans? I can't be bothered to check :P
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I dunno why he's on the plane, but it's gonna be after he's already "returned" for the first case.
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I wanted to use a day of the week, but I didn't think the timeline was quite solid enough to pin it down as "Black Monday" as opposed to "Black Sunday". Also, people wouldn't really get it, I guess.
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Or Mikumo is making him drag it around. XD (He is a gentleman after all.)
That is exactly what I was thinking
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Also, they'd have to be REALLY careful to try to fit a new game in between two existing games, and I don't think they'd risk doing that. I mean, you know, they have to fit a new canon into the MIDDLE of the timeline in the existing canon. It seems so much easier to just set it after the third game. Also, this game isn't about Phoenix, so they don't really have to worry too much about fitting it around his disbarment, right?
So yeah, I dunno, the impression I got at least was that it takes place immediately after 3-5
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Celestina wrote:
On the topic of Phoenix's disbarrment, I think that they'll probably MENTION it. Nothing more than a mention. Gumshoe'll probably tell Edgey or something.
This is what I think too. I personally hope Phoenix isn't in this game at all. I don't want this to be another Apollo Justice, where it's named after someone else but in the end was still really about Nick. I'm thinking they might mention it briefly, like as a newspaper headline or something.
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Celestina wrote:
On the topic of Phoenix's disbarrment, I think that they'll probably MENTION it. Nothing more than a mention. Gumshoe'll probably tell Edgey or something.
This is what I think too. I personally hope Phoenix isn't in this game at all. I don't want this to be another Apollo Justice, where it's named after someone else but in the end was still really about Nick. I'm thinking they might mention it briefly, like as a newspaper headline or something.
*sigh* Poor Polly, here's to him having some real character development in GS5...
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Celestina wrote:
On the topic of Phoenix's disbarrment, I think that they'll probably MENTION it. Nothing more than a mention. Gumshoe'll probably tell Edgey or something.
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*sigh* Poor Polly, here's to him having some real character development in GS5...
True...
I mean, I was surpised with the development of the game GS4.
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We don't know that Gumshoe ever quit, it was only speculated because he doesn't make any appearance in AJ. But he could be doing any number of things by then, so....who knows!
My apologize ^^
I thought it was a fact...
because it was treated as a fact so I mentioned this possibility.
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Croik wrote:
We don't know that Gumshoe ever quit, it was only speculated because he doesn't make any appearance in AJ. But he could be doing any number of things by then, so....who knows!
My apologize ^^
I thought it was a fact...
because it was treated as a fact so I mentioned this possibility.
Ema just got his old job, but she appears to have got it only recently before the start of AJ. Whether he had it before or if there was someone else in the interim is unclear.
However, I'd be unsurprised if he gets a ret-con 'promotion' in GK to Edgeworth's slightly higher assistant detective or something, to explain why he doesn't have the old job.
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Ema just got his old job, but she appears to have got it only recently before the start of AJ. Whether he had it before or if there was someone else in the interim is unclear.
Orrrrrrr Los Angeles employs more than one detective at a time...?
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